U-Pick Anything Volume 2 Game Thread (Day 4 )

[MartinGG99]

So, I looked through Poison's ISO, and here are most of my thoughts on him, or at least on things that are or may be AI.

Spoiler: show

One of the things I'm wondering is why he choose Tim over Maple when he said this earlier:

I'm probably shooting Tim/maple in the next ITA.

(Big quote below)

Spoiler: show

ITA2 Spicy Shots
Urist - Rej - [/color]HIT, Town Doctor/Vig thing (cool role)
Poison - Timsup2nothin - MISS
iaafr - motel room - HIT, Town Odd Night Somewhat Guilty Vigilante
WerewolfHunter - Xalt - MISS
MartinGG99 - Exalt - HIT, Town Role Cop?
DaisyCloud - funnygirl55 - HIT, Mafia Mikey Sub Out Traveller Thing
Marcher Jovian - sprityo - MISS
Long Con - NANOOK - Refunded/failed
jumpluff - Long Con - MISS
SilverKeith - Ephemeral - MISS
Adam - AWESOME-O - MISS

there's 5+ wolves in this

Ok so this. Urist was bad to randomly shoot rej out of nowhere will iso him then Martin maybe.

@jumpluff why long con?

Also I would like to iso Adam later.

The thing that is bad about Urist's shot is that he hit a townie. Bad luck that with (probably) shots that were on wolves missing the shot that hits was that one...but the fact that it hit doesn't automatically make it more wolfy than any other shot targeting a townie.

Yours, for example.

I understand that the only person that knows I am a townie is me. But the town makes a shot list and a veto list for a reason. It keeps wolves from being able to just plink away as they see fit because we know that their preference is going to be to shoot townies. By ignoring the lists a townie provides cover for wolves. So in that regard Urist's shot, while having unfortunate results, was not as "bad" as yours.

I shot at you specifically because you committed ahead of time that you were going to take a bad shot and nothing snort of killing you was going to stop you.

So here's the thing...I don't like Hank's role. If he is a wolf he is always going to target town, and maybe he already has. If he is town he doesn't seem to be following the game closely enough to make good choices consistently. Either way I am unlikely to cry over his demise.

However, I shot at you for a good reason, so I can't pretend that I would cry over your demise either. Unless...you get it. Show me that you understand the point of the lists, and agree to abide by them. I'm always gonna say wolfy shit anyway, so chances are good that if I live very long I'll wind up on the shot list and you can shoot at me then and feel good about it. But the town can't allow hero shotting townies that give cover to wolves.

Okay?

@Poison Chan

I'm really very sorry sir, and tbh, even if you shoot me again or make others shoot me I won't be following any lists which are made by unknown alignments cause nothing and no one is spewed town yet and it's day 1 and I don't trust those whom you have taken for a fact are TOWN, again.

The thing is, Idc about the list, in that list I'm boldly predicting at least 2-3 wolves are there . So if you really think I would be laying low for the sake of surviving a little more by listening to those blindly instead of scum hunting based on my reads and assumptions and intuitions then you are wrong.

The fact you have consistently said opposite about almost all my scum reads till now is concerning.

also, you don't have to cry over my demise, my ability flip would bring drama in your life.

He states early on with his plan to shoot Maple or Tim, but decides to go after Tim despite the fact that Maple was creating a veto list that included Tim in it? Why didn't he shoot Maple, especially if he were "boldly predicting" 2-3 wolves were in it?

Other than this, most of his other posts I don't feel particularly scummy or towny about.

His reactions to the first ITA window seemed a bit meme-y or silly and wanting to see "spicy" (If I'm using the term right?) things, at least from my PoV. His interactions on the 2nd ITA window seemed to be because of the first, so I'm not sure if I can call it scummy or suspicious that he acted a bit differently in comparison to the 1st and 2nd windows.

Spoiler: show

ITA=TonyStarkPrime

I'm getting chills. You are interesting.

Also, in light of the Hank + Poison fight situation, I'm leaning towards Poison being thrown out if possible. I looked at Hank and I don't have any objections or negative thoughts about him so far. If mafia wanted to get rid of Poison Chan I feel they would've tried to wait and check out other routes to do that rather than just use a potentially back-firing ability before the first 24 hours of the game.

[MartinGG99]

Gonna head out for some lunch. Might not be back for about an hour.

[ColinIsCool]

My towncore:
NANOOK
jumpluff for making beautiful, beautiful compilation posts
DaisyCloud for the fg vig thing

Feel pretty good about LC cause I also thought the shooting spree was kinda “huh”. Wasn’t somebody green peeked at some point, Maple?

I will vote for literally anybody else probably so that I don’t have to ever read posts for 2 hours again

[Poison]

In case I get yeeted someone make a list of people suddenly finding me scummy and should judge them by their progression. I'll probably come in like 1 hours?! but probably won't be able stay for long either I'll answer those ISOs and idk what is written in there when I'm back.

[Iwan]

whoever bothered killing Liberal did well tbh
Third parties should be dealt with kills, lynching them is wasting town best weapon

I feel like this is the third or fourth time I've seen someone make this exact post.

Thats likely because it is almost a truism tbh
I should be doing better but I gotta be honest I'm still trying to understood how the tools on this site work.

[Iwan]

*figure out

[Timsup2nothin]

My towncore:
NANOOK
jumpluff for making beautiful, beautiful compilation posts
DaisyCloud for the fg vig thing

Feel pretty good about LC cause I also thought the shooting spree was kinda “huh”. Wasn’t somebody green peeked at some point, Maple?

I will vote for literally anybody else probably so that I don’t have to ever read posts for 2 hours again

Yes Maple was greenpeeked by Hollowkatt, who was subsequently day vigged and janitored so we don't absolutely know if he was a real cop. I am putting a pretty high level of confidence on the whole thing and calling Maple pretty well cleared.

On the 'shooting spree,' we started with fifty players. Without a ton of killing power we would be at this for life. ITAs, if properly harnessed, can be pretty heavily town sided KP, so good overall...but we do need to do a better job of harnessing it.

[beeboy]

Does someone want to catch me up?
I am very susceptible to pockets atm.

[Sloonei]

Isn’t the ITA thing limited to Day 1 tho?

[beeboy]

I also have a pro town day action and if I am going to die let me know if I should use it.
It's optimal to use it tomorrow though.

[Urist]

I do think it is a wolfy role. Not saying it's a good wolfy role that I would want as a wolf, but I sure wouldn't want it as town either, so <shrug>. It, or something much like it, was apparently just used on MU and it was a wolf role there. Not definitive but at least indicative.

Outside that I don't really read Hank as likely anything. His ISO is IMO typical low poster NAI. Not gonna jump up and down shouting "defend your read or pistols at dawn," but if you wanna point out what made you townlean there I will try to listen and learn.

The irritant to me in this whole mess is that I don't really have an inclination to "defend Poison." I hope that if she wins this duel, which I think she will, that Hank flips wolf. Not only because "wolf flip good" though wolf flip is certainly good. But I really don't see any way this is w/w and that would take Poison (for me) from moderately deep in POE to pretty solidly clear and I could stop working on that slot.

By the way Daenarys, I tried to shoot Poison too, which may not have been my finest hour if things go as I expect. In another odd coincidence, when she and I were trying to sort out our differences one of our "we disagree on this read so U R bad" issues turned out to be you, so that kind of added to the amusement when you came along.

I think the most pro-town thing about it is that it adds another kill that is at least somewhat controlled by the town. It's not "banish me or my target" where the most you can gain is using your normal tk on a wolf. It's "kill me or my target" where the most we can gain is killing a wolf for free. That's a *much* more pro-town role.

Although, I could see it being 3rd party. Win x number of duels, type thing. I don't have a read on Hank really, I just suspect that his role and the way he used it is not mafia-motivated. We can at least agree that if he were mafia, his team would have directed him to use it on someone like xalt yeah?

I had no idea you two were fighting over your read on me, I guess it is kind of amusing that I'm attacking your (indirect) defense of Poison.

[Iwan]

I commend whoever removed the “trustworthy” liberal from our ranks. Neutrality like that is best dealt with separately, and not with the power of the vote.

It is rather interesting that you posted this literally after fox talked me off for doing so
I don't think there is any pattern but it could actually be a way to people feign contribution (yeah I'm not one to talk but still)

[Iwan]

Just so there’s no confusion: the ITA thing is absolutely not a standard Syndicate mechanic.

Has the host explained how it works ?
The lack of threadmarks or link to relevant actions kinda makes it difficult to follow up tbh.
Mafia hosting rule n.9: treat your players like princess
Although I shouldn't expect it from a bastard game I guess

[Timsup2nothin]

Isn’t the ITA thing limited to Day 1 tho?

You say this as if Mac were predictable.

Care to rephrase?

More direct answer...he announced the day one ITAs after day one had started, or maybe in the day one start I guess. I wouldn't take that as saying anything about future days, myself. I think that a wise town puts together a plan for dealing with ITAs better just in case.

[beeboy]

The ITA mechanic is likely being enabled by someones "anything" role.
I don't think it's a mechanic that is a public game feature.

So how it works is likely not known information.

[Iwan]

I'm pretty sure I'm not shooting this ITA with no proper reads yet. But for now, I think, I guess also I'm clueless but Nanook is awkward. JPIC is awkward x2.

Is ita a mafia slang or something ?

[beeboy]

Whoever holds the ITA role doesn't seem to want to claim.
So I don't see the point in speculating on it.

[colonialbob]

On the 'shooting spree,' we started with fifty players. Without a ton of killing power we would be at this for life.

I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Mason chats off the shoulder of Orion. I watched people reincarnated repeatedly near the Coconut Tree. All these moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain.

[beeboy]

I'm pretty sure I'm not shooting this ITA with no proper reads yet. But for now, I think, I guess also I'm clueless but Nanook is awkward. JPIC is awkward x2.

Is ita a mafia slang or something ?

ITA = In thread attack.
It's a phrase used on mafia universe to describe a mechanic that uses public day vigs that have a certain % chance of hitting.

[Iwan]

The ITA mechanic is likely being enabled by someones "anything" role.
I don't think it's a mechanic that is a public game feature.

So how it works is likely not known information.

If ita= kill whoever you want within x timeframe (which seems to be the case) I tend to agree yeah.

[Iwan]

Doesn't sound like a bedrock in game mechanic but maybe a third party passive

[Timsup2nothin]

Just so there’s no confusion: the ITA thing is absolutely not a standard Syndicate mechanic.

Has the host explained how it works ?
The lack of threadmarks or link to relevant actions kinda makes it difficult to follow up tbh.
Mafia hosting rule n.9: treat your players like princess
Although I shouldn't expect it from a bastard game I guess

Post 3550 is useful

[WerewolfHunter]

I assumed ITAs were a game mechanic for this game but not based on someone's role. i never thought that was a possibility

[ColinIsCool]

On the 'shooting spree,' we started with fifty players. Without a ton of killing power we would be at this for life.

I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Mason chats off the shoulder of Orion. I watched people reincarnated repeatedly near the Coconut Tree. All these moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain.

I lol’d

[beeboy]

I assumed ITAs were a game mechanic for this game but not based on someone's role. i never thought that was a possibility

I saw someone enable an ITA phase in an anything game before with around 30ish players.

[beeboy]

Anyone have any sick read cliffs they want to give me.
Talking about ITAs and roles is incredibly lame.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Sup

I've skipped the last 1k posts and have no intention to read them.

What's going on

[Urist]

Anyone have any sick read cliffs they want to give me.
Talking about ITAs and roles is incredibly lame.

hot take: martin has no votes on him because he is mafia

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Ran News

- Hmmm Punchy may be right about Sheep actually, Sheep townread retracted back to null
- Poison wolfy
- Long Con wolfy-ish idk
- Daisy lock town, nice shot, TONS of information
- Silverkeith town
- Hard to explain Sprityo without spoilers for the character they flavor post as, but he should know why I said what I said and it's pretty scummy he isn't explaining it himself! The readlist is interesting though and especially scumreading Punchy and Daisy. Kind of want to kill or cop both Sprityo and Punchy. Punchy may be the effort wolf. Poison/Punchy/Sprityo contains mafia like 100%, maybe up to all three of them.
- lol at Adam's #3144 in light of the above

Also this:

- sorry to all the people I am relentlessly calling mafia in spec chat
- Poison lacks in hype energy though, I like Hank over her in thunderdome
- Ranmilia definitely mafia, don't trust her

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Iwan picked the best Danganronpa char for his avy and I'm townreading him for that for the time being.

[colonialbob]

Sup

I've skipped the last 1k posts and have no intention to read them.

What's going on

y u shoot jack

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Sup

I've skipped the last 1k posts and have no intention to read them.

What's going on

y u shoot jack

RNG gave me the number 21.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

Anyone has a rundown on the most popular cases so I can decide if I agree with them or not.

[colonialbob]

Sup

I've skipped the last 1k posts and have no intention to read them.

What's going on

y u shoot jack

RNG gave me the number 21.

:/

[ColinIsCool]

Hey sprit, happy birthday!

[Sloonei]

Isn’t the ITA thing limited to Day 1 tho?

You say this as if Mac were predictable.

Care to rephrase?

More direct answer...he announced the day one ITAs after day one had started, or maybe in the day one start I guess. I wouldn't take that as saying anything about future days, myself. I think that a wise town puts together a plan for dealing with ITAs better just in case.

In Thread Attack Window

There will also be an "In Thread Attack Window" in exactly 2 hours from now. The ITA will be done manually as we are not MU. ITA rules, you must post in red bold ITA= followed by the player you wish to fire at. ie.

ITA=MacDougall

Each player has a 1 in 5 chance of landing and I will be using random.org to do the honours.

There will also be an in thread attack window in 14 hours from now. Both ITAs will last 30 minutes, and day 1 will be the only day that has in thread attack windows.

[Sloonei]

I commend whoever removed the “trustworthy” liberal from our ranks. Neutrality like that is best dealt with separately, and not with the power of the vote.

It is rather interesting that you posted this literally after fox talked me off for doing so
I don't think there is any pattern but it could actually be a way to people feign contribution (yeah I'm not one to talk but still)

[VOTE: iwan] aubergine

[Sloonei]

Has my shot been processed?

You missed

should i try for sloonei too

I don't like the Ace vote, and I'm not as sure about wanting to call Exalt scum anymore right now until he posts more. So yeah, I wouldn't be against it.

[mention]Hyena[/mention] why was the player called Sloonei worth shooting based on these votes?

[Sloonei]

unvote sprit
vote hyena

because we eliminated tony on his birthday last game and it was a bad idea.

[Sloonei]

Has my shot been processed?

You missed

should i try for sloonei too

I don't like the Ace vote, and I'm not as sure about wanting to call Exalt scum anymore right now until he posts more. So yeah, I wouldn't be against it.

@Hyena why was the player called Sloonei worth shooting based on these votes?

Also why the need to tiptoe into a justification for suspicion after you'd already attempted to murderize my ass?

[Timsup2nothin]

Spoiler: show

Anyone have any sick read cliffs they want to give me.
Talking about ITAs and roles is incredibly lame.

hot take: martin has no votes on him because he is mafia

Okay, I'll bite.
[VOTE: Martin] aubergine
At least for the moment.

Given that he shot and killed someone who was on the veto list it does seem odd that no one went all reactionary on him.

Worth an ISO.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

imma sheep that cuz my vote on daisy has to be changed.

[VOTE: Martin] aubergine

[Timsup2nothin]

Isn’t the ITA thing limited to Day 1 tho?

You say this as if Mac were predictable.

Care to rephrase?

More direct answer...he announced the day one ITAs after day one had started, or maybe in the day one start I guess. I wouldn't take that as saying anything about future days, myself. I think that a wise town puts together a plan for dealing with ITAs better just in case.

In Thread Attack Window

There will also be an "In Thread Attack Window" in exactly 2 hours from now. The ITA will be done manually as we are not MU. ITA rules, you must post in red bold ITA= followed by the player you wish to fire at. ie.

ITA=MacDougall

Each player has a 1 in 5 chance of landing and I will be using random.org to do the honours.

There will also be an in thread attack window in 14 hours from now. Both ITAs will last 30 minutes, and day 1 will be the only day that has in thread attack windows.

Well, that looks definitive...

I buy it.

Maybe.

[tedxtr]

Sloonei @ me in what you consider to be villager posts and I’ll give my soul read on you

[ColinIsCool]

[VOTE: Hank] aubergine seems like the better option in the Thunderdome imo imo

[Poison]

So, I went back and read over some of the reactions to Tony shooting at me and JPIC shooting Tony. Here are the ones I've looked at so far:

Spoiler: show

ITA HYENA

ITA HYENA

BAD TSP

who shot hyena and why?

oh Tony. who is Tony?

tony sup?

ITA=TonyStarkPrime

Towny shot by JPIC imo.

Towny shot by JPIC imo.

ITA=TonyStarkPrime

I'm getting chills. You are interesting.

TonyStarkPrime has died.

Spoiler: show

He was The Embodiment of Champs Hero Syndrome

Every day you may not have your vote on the top wagon by the end of day, however whoever you vote for starts the following day with a vote.

Town.

lol good pick, pretty janky role tho

Someone shoot jpic plz

Tony was obvious town

ITA=TonyStarkPrime

HIT

JPIS: JUSTPLAYINGITSCUM.

Jpic and ephemeral are the acceptable kills today

When somebody says they can't die I test it /shrug

TonyStarkPrime has died.

Spoiler: show

He was The Embodiment of Champs Hero Syndrome

Every day you may not have your vote on the top wagon by the end of day, however whoever you vote for starts the following day with a vote.

Town.

So we shooting JPIC right?

Out of these, I least like Poison's reaction. At first, she seemed intrigued with JPIC's shot on Tony, but once Tony flipped town, she was all eager for JPIC to get shot, which is kinda a weird 180 to me? I dunno. I don't like it though. Also, JPIC didn't really mention me being a reason why they shot Tony initially. I'll have to continue reading to see when he started using me as an additional reason why he shot TSP.

Yeah, I agree with this read on Poison.

So, [mention]Jackofhearts2005[/mention] and [mention]Hyena[/mention] ,

The stuff you said about me turning 180! Well you have assumed wrong and my proof to that lies in your own Spoiler part.

1st, you haven't read any of my earlier interactions with JPIC, if you did, you would not have said this.

But OK, even for that scenario, I'm assuming you have the misconception of me seeing JPIC as a good guy before TSP flip based on the first post you quoted from me? That statement did not mean a positive thing. You know how I can prove that? Look at my second post you quoted before the flip. I called him Scum.

Now, about the thing you overlooked but your case on me is based on this is, I turned 180 after TSP flip, is wrong, cause I have been scum reading JPIC before that and even he knows that himself and questioned me something along the line about it.

Wrong assumptions, both of you.

Although I toned down a bit after his jailkeeper claim, but that didn't make me completely put him outside of my list yet. Cause he hasn't done anything towny yet for me to give him that read. Anything you want to ask on this matter?

[tedxtr]

I’m gonna have an ita shat list by tomorrow and actually be useful - I usually end up doing actual stuff on D3 but I don’t see anyone with ant solid scum reads that are any higher than rand

In the meantime votes on sheep are appreciated

[Sloonei]

Sloonei @ me in what you consider to be villager posts and I’ll give my soul read on you

They’re all villager posts.

[Poison]

I actually scum read JPIS now

Can you respond to the same question I just asked Nanook? :P

Can I? Or is this a closed inquiry?

What is the question [mention]Hyena[/mention] ? I might have missed it.

[tedxtr]

Haven’t read any but will take a look at them at some point