U-Pick Anything Volume 2 Game Thread (Day 4 )

[Urist]

not really interested in talking about the intelligence of the play any more.
if there is a vig they should target someone other than maple.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I’m playing devil’s advocate I wouldn’t actually argue against maple dying kek

[Timsup2nothin]

not really interested in talking about the intelligence of the play any more.
if there is a vig they should target someone other than maple.

Why? Maple got cleared BY A WOLF. Why does a wolf spend their last hour clearing a villager?

[Urist]

xalt
4
5%


Voters: WerewolfHunter, Long Con, Urist, AWESOM-O

these people are lock non-mafia.
do we know who shot xalt?

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

xalt
4
5%


Voters: WerewolfHunter, Long Con, Urist, AWESOM-O

these people are lock non-mafia.
do we know who shot xalt?

Awesome, unfortunately

[Timsup2nothin]

I’m playing devil’s advocate I wouldn’t actually argue against maple dying kek

I didn't really think that you would. But as devil's advocate can you suggest any reason that wolf HK would have cleared a villager on his way out?

[Urist]

not really interested in talking about the intelligence of the play any more.
if there is a vig they should target someone other than maple.

Why? Maple got cleared BY A WOLF. Why does a wolf spend their last hour clearing a villager?

maple is lock scum and might be jailkept / protected by jpic, who is also probably scum
ofc you are scum as well so you already know this l m a o

[Timsup2nothin]

not really interested in talking about the intelligence of the play any more.
if there is a vig they should target someone other than maple.

Why? Maple got cleared BY A WOLF. Why does a wolf spend their last hour clearing a villager?

maple is lock scum and might be jailkept / protected by jpic, who is also probably scum
ofc you are scum as well so you already know this l m a o

Since the Xalt wagon was not likely to go over can you explain how being on it makes those people "never wolves"?

[Justplayingitcool]

not really interested in talking about the intelligence of the play any more.
if there is a vig they should target someone other than maple.

Why? Maple got cleared BY A WOLF. Why does a wolf spend their last hour clearing a villager?

maple is lock scum and might be jailkept / protected by jpic, who is also probably scum
ofc you are scum as well so you already know this l m a o

I'm not

[Justplayingitcool]

Let me self-resolve ffs

[Timsup2nothin]

xalt
4
5%


Voters: WerewolfHunter, Long Con, Urist, AWESOM-O

these people are lock non-mafia.
do we know who shot xalt?

Awesome, unfortunately

Was there any indication of who started this popcorn thing, and was dragging Xalt into it something they did? Because that is solidly not a wolf.

[Timsup2nothin]

Let me self-resolve ffs

Feel free to jail keep me if you are town, because I'm pretty sure I'm right and I'm pretty sure the wolves know the only way to shut me up is to kill me.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

xalt
4
5%


Voters: WerewolfHunter, Long Con, Urist, AWESOM-O

these people are lock non-mafia.
do we know who shot xalt?

Awesome, unfortunately

Was there any indication of who started this popcorn thing, and was dragging Xalt into it something they did? Because that is solidly not a wolf.

Polips

Who is also dead

[ColinIsCool]

What the fuck happened lol

[DaisyCloud]

I mean I'm open to an alternative...someone just explain why a dying wolf HK spends his last hour lock clearing a villager.

@DaisyCloud can you take a shot at this?

I'm basically playing to be night killed here so maybe you won't be. But if I am don't let the wolves just bury this question.

I'm gonna share my entire thought process to get to answer this so prepare for long jumbled text.

iirc katt had there alignement redacted. so we only got their posts to go by. they claimed then said maple is town because of a day invest acton then died. I don't remember how they died or by who. idk if that was announced or not. iirc they said they were some type of strongman cop?

strongman is typically a role that can bypass protections etc so person they target is killed no matter. never seen this modifier in a cop role. I would think such a modifier if real and Katt as cop had it thry could bypass a Miller or even GF immune to get a player's true read.

if Katt was the one who actually claimed this, dorry foggy brain still waking up, then why did they invest maple? well, i can see katt doing that. we are all still debating if maple is mantichora or not. i have decided i will try to view maple as their own person and personality. far as i can tell maple doesn't care either way if we think they are mantichora or not.

when I was reading game I thought maybe maple was mantichora for some reason and I remember asking maple about it. it was soo idk my first thought, omg mantichora is playing. I like manti and enjoy playing with them. I think all the MU games I played that mantichora also played they were town. peeps say they play like thst as mafia too.

so point, why maple. well mantichora is always difficult for some to figure out. I can see why town!katt invests maple. to know 1 way or another. also maple is very active. if they should be scum then players need to know.

same if katt is mafia. they can claim that maple is town to change people's take on maple. maple could be their teammate. this scenario is possible but idk. i don't like it. it's really so easy to think that though and I can see players thinking this.

iirc maple said they got Miller in their role. so they would show scum if they were to be invested.

I don't remember what happened first. maple claiming the miller thing before or after katt said they was cop strongman.


so what made me think maple is town? despite the cute anime pictures and stuff and them being funny and off topic they are being game solvey and putting effort to figuring out the game. they genuinely seem like they are trying to root out the mafia.

it can be argued that maple is mafia. that is alot of WIM.

whether you think they are mantichora or not maple as manti or maple is just maple, they is putting in lots of effort.

I think maple is most likely town. if it turns out they flip scum in day 2 or mid game I might still question if that is a true flip. idk mid game i might because of new infos gained decide oh yeah maple was mafia.

I will definitely look at end game to verify if it ever was a true flip. this being nite 1 and the infos I have i will question maple's flip.

it's very possible we got framers. I can see day framers and nite framers exists in this game.

if maple is mafia then that is alot of WIM.

[Timsup2nothin]

xalt
4
5%


Voters: WerewolfHunter, Long Con, Urist, AWESOM-O

these people are lock non-mafia.
do we know who shot xalt?

Awesome, unfortunately

Was there any indication of who started this popcorn thing, and was dragging Xalt into it something they did? Because that is solidly not a wolf.

Polips

Who is also dead

Well that sux. Can you help out with the question I asked Urist? I don't think there was any real chance of the Xalt wagon going over, so I don't see any reason to lock in "not wolf" on the people who were on that wagon. Do you?

[DaisyCloud]

[mention]Timsup2nothin[/mention] ^

[DaisyCloud]

dang it too slow. tim look at my post not this other one. smh

[DaisyCloud]

oh wait tim posted thst post.

[Urist]

Well that sux. Can you help out with the question I asked Urist? I don't think there was any real chance of the Xalt wagon going over, so I don't see any reason to lock in "not wolf" on the people who were on that wagon. Do you?

That count was taken when most people were at 4 votes, so there actually was a real chance of the xalt wagon going through.

[Urist]

[mention]DaisyCloud[/mention] hollowkatt is confirmed mafia at this point.

[Urist]

@DaisyCloud hollowkatt is confirmed mafia at this point.

Literally mod-confirmed mafia, due to xalt's flip.

[DaisyCloud]

@DaisyCloud hollowkatt is confirmed mafia at this point.

oh really? how? what? when? please share the post or posts. i can't take your word for it.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

xalt
4
5%


Voters: WerewolfHunter, Long Con, Urist, AWESOM-O

these people are lock non-mafia.
do we know who shot xalt?

Awesome, unfortunately

Was there any indication of who started this popcorn thing, and was dragging Xalt into it something they did? Because that is solidly not a wolf.

Polips

Who is also dead

Well that sux. Can you help out with the question I asked Urist? I don't think there was any real chance of the Xalt wagon going over, so I don't see any reason to lock in "not wolf" on the people who were on that wagon. Do you?

I already gave townpoints to those people so

Yeh I think they deserve town points why wouldn’t they

If mafia’s plan is to have xalt shoot HK to “confirm” maple...you don’t then push xalt kek

[Urist]

nutella
4
5%


Voters: Exalt, polypies73, sprityo, speedchuck

These people are ++++ non-mafia

[DaisyCloud]

@DaisyCloud hollowkatt is confirmed mafia at this point.

Literally mod-confirmed mafia, due to xalt's flip.

what does xalt have to do with katt? iirc katt's flip is still redacted.

[Maple]

My alignment is town power. My ability is a bit complicated, so bear with me. If any of the members of the Mafia know anything about Epic Mafia, they'll likely know that killing me is a great idea for them.

During the day, I can choose to "dispel all light", causing the day to end with a nolynch. I can do this once.
Each night, I can choose to "dispel all darkness" and some bullshit like that. What this does it redirects all activated abilities being used that night onto myself. Whether I activate or not, I will know which roles visited me that night (n0 I had "vampire", "tucan", and "role cop").
Once during the game, I can make myself completely immune to all abilities/death/lynch for the two phases thereafter.
If I am voted up, and brought to a majority, I will know exactly how many townies voted for me, the lynch is cancelled, and the day ends.

If I die, the next day phase is skipped, meaning there are two consecutive nights. Between those nights, all non-town players may vote to have a currently alive player killed, ignoring protection/immunity.

HK has to be a the rolecop, and wants me lynched because he read up on the Epic Mafia role, from which I am based.

[Timsup2nothin]

Spoiler: show

I mean I'm open to an alternative...someone just explain why a dying wolf HK spends his last hour lock clearing a villager.

@DaisyCloud can you take a shot at this?

I'm basically playing to be night killed here so maybe you won't be. But if I am don't let the wolves just bury this question.

I'm gonna share my entire thought process to get to answer this so prepare for long jumbled text.

iirc katt had there alignement redacted. so we only got their posts to go by. they claimed then said maple is town because of a day invest acton then died. I don't remember how they died or by who. idk if that was announced or not. iirc they said they were some type of strongman cop?

strongman is typically a role that can bypass protections etc so person they target is killed no matter. never seen this modifier in a cop role. I would think such a modifier if real and Katt as cop had it thry could bypass a Miller or even GF immune to get a player's true read.

if Katt was the one who actually claimed this, dorry foggy brain still waking up, then why did they invest maple? well, i can see katt doing that. we are all still debating if maple is mantichora or not. i have decided i will try to view maple as their own person and personality. far as i can tell maple doesn't care either way if we think they are mantichora or not.

when I was reading game I thought maybe maple was mantichora for some reason and I remember asking maple about it. it was soo idk my first thought, omg mantichora is playing. I like manti and enjoy playing with them. I think all the MU games I played that mantichora also played they were town. peeps say they play like thst as mafia too.

so point, why maple. well mantichora is always difficult for some to figure out. I can see why town!katt invests maple. to know 1 way or another. also maple is very active. if they should be scum then players need to know.

same if katt is mafia. they can claim that maple is town to change people's take on maple. maple could be their teammate. this scenario is possible but idk. i don't like it. it's really so easy to think that though and I can see players thinking this.

iirc maple said they got Miller in their role. so they would show scum if they were to be invested.

I don't remember what happened first. maple claiming the miller thing before or after katt said they was cop strongman.


so what made me think maple is town? despite the cute anime pictures and stuff and them being funny and off topic they are being game solvey and putting effort to figuring out the game. they genuinely seem like they are trying to root out the mafia.

it can be argued that maple is mafia. that is alot of WIM.

whether you think they are mantichora or not maple as manti or maple is just maple, they is putting in lots of effort.

I think maple is most likely town. if it turns out they flip scum in day 2 or mid game I might still question if that is a true flip. idk mid game i might because of new infos gained decide oh yeah maple was mafia.

I will definitely look at end game to verify if it ever was a true flip. this being nite 1 and the infos I have i will question maple's flip.

it's very possible we got framers. I can see day framers and nite framers exists in this game.

if maple is mafia then that is alot of WIM.

The issue with HK as town is that Xalt's role...Janitor which accounts most likely for the redacted HK flip...required that his first target be a fellow wolf to get additional shots. Another redacted flip on Marcher Jovian suggests that he did get additional shots, so that makes HK a wolf.

Which brings us back to:

Why does a wolf HK who knows he is about to be janitored and can make up literally anything he wants spend that opportunity clearing a villager who claimed miller?

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

If maple is town then sure they don’t get the townpoints

But if maple is mafia those three are much less likely mafia

[Urist]

Xalt has died.

Spoiler: show

Xalt was Katarina Du Couteau.

You are an undetectable, unstoppable anytime janitor vigilante with three shots. But to get the 2nd and 3rd shot you have to kill a mafia teammate with the first one. You cannot use the first one on anything other than a mafia teammate.

Mafia.

[mention]DaisyCloud[/mention]

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

nutella
4
5%


Voters: Exalt, polypies73, sprityo, speedchuck

These people are ++++ non-mafia

Disagree, Nutella is prime bus role

[Timsup2nothin]

xalt
4
5%


Voters: WerewolfHunter, Long Con, Urist, AWESOM-O

these people are lock non-mafia.
do we know who shot xalt?

Awesome, unfortunately

Was there any indication of who started this popcorn thing, and was dragging Xalt into it something they did? Because that is solidly not a wolf.

Polips

Who is also dead

Well that sux. Can you help out with the question I asked Urist? I don't think there was any real chance of the Xalt wagon going over, so I don't see any reason to lock in "not wolf" on the people who were on that wagon. Do you?

I already gave townpoints to those people so

Yeh I think they deserve town points why wouldn’t they

If mafia’s plan is to have xalt shoot HK to “confirm” maple...you don’t then push xalt kek

I can go with town points but not like any lock town bit. Wolves still gotta vote somewhere, and a safe vote on another wolf that isn't going over is good distancing.

[DaisyCloud]

xalt
4
5%


Voters: WerewolfHunter, Long Con, Urist, AWESOM-O

these people are lock non-mafia.
do we know who shot xalt?

Awesome, unfortunately

Was there any indication of who started this popcorn thing, and was dragging Xalt into it something they did? Because that is solidly not a wolf.

Polips

Who is also dead

Well that sux. Can you help out with the question I asked Urist? I don't think there was any real chance of the Xalt wagon going over, so I don't see any reason to lock in "not wolf" on the people who were on that wagon. Do you?

I already gave townpoints to those people so

Yeh I think they deserve town points why wouldn’t they

If mafia’s plan is to have xalt shoot HK to “confirm” maple...you don’t then push xalt kek

wait. im sorry. I truly don't comprehend. I feel like I forgot English.

so xalt flipped mafia. xalt killed katt. we don't know what katt is but because xalt is mafia they killed katt so their teammate maple will be perceived as town.

so katt is mafia and so is maple because xalt is mafia?

I'm so confusoon. please explain because I don't understand these mechanics.

[Urist]

Why does a wolf HK who knows he is about to be janitored and can make up literally anything he wants spend that opportunity clearing a villager who claimed miller?

we are 100% executing maple tomorrow. nobody is arguing against that. you can stop talking about it.

[Urist]

My alignment is town power. My ability is a bit complicated, so bear with me. If any of the members of the Mafia know anything about Epic Mafia, they'll likely know that killing me is a great idea for them.

During the day, I can choose to "dispel all light", causing the day to end with a nolynch. I can do this once.
Each night, I can choose to "dispel all darkness" and some bullshit like that. What this does it redirects all activated abilities being used that night onto myself. Whether I activate or not, I will know which roles visited me that night (n0 I had "vampire", "tucan", and "role cop").
Once during the game, I can make myself completely immune to all abilities/death/lynch for the two phases thereafter.
If I am voted up, and brought to a majority, I will know exactly how many townies voted for me, the lynch is cancelled, and the day ends.

If I die, the next day phase is skipped, meaning there are two consecutive nights. Between those nights, all non-town players may vote to have a currently alive player killed, ignoring protection/immunity.

HK has to be a the rolecop, and wants me lynched because he read up on the Epic Mafia role, from which I am based.

very interesting and believable!

[DaisyCloud]

didn't urist have votes on them? why is urist supposed to be town?

[Timsup2nothin]

@DaisyCloud hollowkatt is confirmed mafia at this point.

Literally mod-confirmed mafia, due to xalt's flip.

what does xalt have to do with katt? iirc katt's flip is still redacted.

And Xalt was revealed as a janitor role so in the absence of any other explanation he killed HK. That's why the flip on HK is redacted. Xalt also needed to janitor a wolf first in order to get more shots.

[DaisyCloud]

Xalt has died.

Spoiler: show

Xalt was Katarina Du Couteau.

You are an undetectable, unstoppable anytime janitor vigilante with three shots. But to get the 2nd and 3rd shot you have to kill a mafia teammate with the first one. You cannot use the first one on anything other than a mafia teammate.

Mafia.

@DaisyCloud

who was xalt's 2nd and 3rd shots?

[Urist]

didn't urist have votes on them? why is urist supposed to be town?

i pointed out the fact that maple was mafia ages ago.
also i was voting for xalt.
unless you think the wolves have some next-level inception-level strategy where HK clears Maple, then I blow up the plan for mucho town cred... yeah i'm basically lock town

[Urist]

didn't urist have votes on them? why is urist supposed to be town?

i pointed out the fact that maple was mafia ages ago.
also i was voting for xalt.
unless you think the wolves have some next-level inception-level strategy where HK clears Maple, then I blow up the plan for mucho town cred... yeah i'm basically lock town

mucho is spanish for "much" btw

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

these people are lock non-mafia.
do we know who shot xalt?

Awesome, unfortunately

Was there any indication of who started this popcorn thing, and was dragging Xalt into it something they did? Because that is solidly not a wolf.

Polips

Who is also dead

Well that sux. Can you help out with the question I asked Urist? I don't think there was any real chance of the Xalt wagon going over, so I don't see any reason to lock in "not wolf" on the people who were on that wagon. Do you?

I already gave townpoints to those people so

Yeh I think they deserve town points why wouldn’t they

If mafia’s plan is to have xalt shoot HK to “confirm” maple...you don’t then push xalt kek

I can go with town points but not like any lock town bit. Wolves still gotta vote somewhere, and a safe vote on another wolf that isn't going over is good distancing.

I mean

Top wagon was like 5 votes or something like that wasn’t it?

IIRC xalt was still pretty viable at that time

[Timsup2nothin]

My alignment is town power. My ability is a bit complicated, so bear with me. If any of the members of the Mafia know anything about Epic Mafia, they'll likely know that killing me is a great idea for them.

During the day, I can choose to "dispel all light", causing the day to end with a nolynch. I can do this once.
Each night, I can choose to "dispel all darkness" and some bullshit like that. What this does it redirects all activated abilities being used that night onto myself. Whether I activate or not, I will know which roles visited me that night (n0 I had "vampire", "tucan", and "role cop").
Once during the game, I can make myself completely immune to all abilities/death/lynch for the two phases thereafter.
If I am voted up, and brought to a majority, I will know exactly how many townies voted for me, the lynch is cancelled, and the day ends.

If I die, the next day phase is skipped, meaning there are two consecutive nights. Between those nights, all non-town players may vote to have a currently alive player killed, ignoring protection/immunity.

HK has to be a the rolecop, and wants me lynched because he read up on the Epic Mafia role, from which I am based.

very interesting and believable!

This is a great role...looks like town gets huge benefits from running up Maple.

[Urist]

My alignment is town power. My ability is a bit complicated, so bear with me. If any of the members of the Mafia know anything about Epic Mafia, they'll likely know that killing me is a great idea for them.

During the day, I can choose to "dispel all light", causing the day to end with a nolynch. I can do this once.
Each night, I can choose to "dispel all darkness" and some bullshit like that. What this does it redirects all activated abilities being used that night onto myself. Whether I activate or not, I will know which roles visited me that night (n0 I had "vampire", "tucan", and "role cop").
Once during the game, I can make myself completely immune to all abilities/death/lynch for the two phases thereafter.
If I am voted up, and brought to a majority, I will know exactly how many townies voted for me, the lynch is cancelled, and the day ends.

If I die, the next day phase is skipped, meaning there are two consecutive nights. Between those nights, all non-town players may vote to have a currently alive player killed, ignoring protection/immunity.

HK has to be a the rolecop, and wants me lynched because he read up on the Epic Mafia role, from which I am based.

very interesting and believable!

This is a great role...looks like town gets huge benefits from running up Maple.

does "brought to a majority" even mean anything in this game? i thought it was plurality LOL

[Timsup2nothin]

Xalt has died.

Spoiler: show

Xalt was Katarina Du Couteau.

You are an undetectable, unstoppable anytime janitor vigilante with three shots. But to get the 2nd and 3rd shot you have to kill a mafia teammate with the first one. You cannot use the first one on anything other than a mafia teammate.

Mafia.

@DaisyCloud

who was xalt's 2nd and 3rd shots?

Looks like he died in the popcorn game before he got the third shot off, but Marcher Jovian got redacted so he is presumably the second.

[Timsup2nothin]

Awesome, unfortunately

Was there any indication of who started this popcorn thing, and was dragging Xalt into it something they did? Because that is solidly not a wolf.

Polips

Who is also dead

Well that sux. Can you help out with the question I asked Urist? I don't think there was any real chance of the Xalt wagon going over, so I don't see any reason to lock in "not wolf" on the people who were on that wagon. Do you?

I already gave townpoints to those people so

Yeh I think they deserve town points why wouldn’t they

If mafia’s plan is to have xalt shoot HK to “confirm” maple...you don’t then push xalt kek

I can go with town points but not like any lock town bit. Wolves still gotta vote somewhere, and a safe vote on another wolf that isn't going over is good distancing.

I mean

Top wagon was like 5 votes or something like that wasn’t it?

IIRC xalt was still pretty viable at that time

Okay...I was asleep for a while...I thought there were at least a couple sixes and sevens in there. <shrug>

[DaisyCloud]

@DaisyCloud hollowkatt is confirmed mafia at this point.

Literally mod-confirmed mafia, due to xalt's flip.

what does xalt have to do with katt? iirc katt's flip is still redacted.

And Xalt was revealed as a janitor role so in the absence of any other explanation he killed HK. That's why the flip on HK is redacted. Xalt also needed to janitor a wolf first in order to get more shots.

okay okay. I'm dumb. could there be another mafia janitor?

okay so xalt killed their teammate katt. who was their 2nd and 3rd shots?

also maple fully claimed I think. that looks op. if they are mafia and that is their role how should we preceed? we should not nite kill i think? or?

I'm dumb. my 1 brain cell is still confused am I'm trying to follow.

[DaisyCloud]

Xalt has died.

Spoiler: show

Xalt was Katarina Du Couteau.

You are an undetectable, unstoppable anytime janitor vigilante with three shots. But to get the 2nd and 3rd shot you have to kill a mafia teammate with the first one. You cannot use the first one on anything other than a mafia teammate.

Mafia.

@DaisyCloud

who was xalt's 2nd and 3rd shots?

Looks like he died in the popcorn game before he got the third shot off, but Marcher Jovian got redacted so he is presumably the second.

oh! oooh!

[ThisIsNotAceMarvel]

OH MY GLOB THIS DOES NOT STOP!!

[ColinIsCool]

I can’t believe Tim Hortons was a scum role, that’s sacrilege.

[Timsup2nothin]

Why does a wolf HK who knows he is about to be janitored and can make up literally anything he wants spend that opportunity clearing a villager who claimed miller?

we are 100% executing maple tomorrow. nobody is arguing against that. you can stop talking about it.

Cool.

Ummm...how do you plan to make sure that happens? I mean, let's assume worst case and you and me get night killed and our stump gets mysteriously uprooted?