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Re: X-Men [Day 7]

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Havok wrote:The only thing that has made me hesitate on Shadowcat is the possibility that she misinterpreted this "info" on Exodus, and Domino and co. just ran with it after the Exodus lynch. I still think my theory is correct about Shadowcat being a brotherhood, but Polaris's recent insistence that Shadowcat is good has me a little nervous because I think after the last lynch it's obvious that Polaris is brotherhood. If I had to rank today's best bets for finding a baddie it would be 1. polaris 2. Hawkeye 3. Shadowcat
I agree that, if things are going like you said, all 3 of those make very good suspects. However, your theory means Hawkeye just outed himself as Magneto by claiming credit for the lynch, and Polaris more or less outed herself by helping him. All for one unsuccessful lynch. You keep saying the baddies are so good and have been playing soooo smart. This theory does not jive with that, at all. Why risk exposure now when they can hoodwink everyone by keeping the focus on you and me, where it's been anyway?

I'm trying to reconsider my opinion of you, because maybe I've had blinders on. If you are a civ, I think you're very misguided in this, though.
Havok wrote:oh and one more thing. About who ended up as the lynchee yesterday. The host said that the result was not a tie. I know that I did not end up with the most votes because if I had, I would not have survived a lynch. So that means either Rasputin or WQ ended up with the most votes. I find it unlikely that Rasputin ended up with the most because that would mean he survived both a NK and a lynch. And then there is WQ telling us that she survived a NK when it was obvious that it was a redirect onto someoen else. She then tells us that she would survive a lynch and I think it's pretty clear at this point that WQ is Apocalypse.
I agree with this. I am also pretty sure I did not end up with the most votes, btw.
Spiral wrote:I don't trust any of you. I think you're all using faulty logic based on assumptions, thinking your word is the word of god. You all sounds bad to me at this point.
Well, that's not the most productive mindset. Only 6 of us can be bad this point, maximum.

Linki: So, Polaris, it's ok to change our minds last-minute and vote whoever, but not to carefully consider and update our suspicions as time and events dictate? Ok, then. You and I are clearly playing different games.
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Re: X-Men [Day 7]

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I do think a new direction might be needed today. I could be interested in looking at Spiral. I was suspicious of him before the info drop, but ended up leaving it alone because no one wanted to hear it with everything else going on.

I also think Marrow and Shaw have had plenty of time to respond to people's concerns and seem bent on giving nothing useful. But I am more hesitant about them, because I know quiet players can make easy baddie scapegoats.
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Oh crap, the lynch ends today! And I have to leave in a half-hour. So if anyone want sot talk, now's the time for me.
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Re: X-Men [Day 7]

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I'm waiting for Spiral's reply, Marrow could be a good option as well, and honestly, I have no idea how to approach Shaw.
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Re: X-Men [Day 7]

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Ok, so if I am wrong and Exodus really was Mystique, I think it means that the baddies have been playing the exact opposite of what I've thought, and that would mean they are playing super low key games....letting everyone else go crazy and vote out everyone but them.

So, if Exodus was Mystique(not saying I believe that as I still think Domino makes more sense to be Mystique), his team mates totally abandoned him and left him out to dry even though they all knew he'd flip as a civvie role. I'd be interested to hear theories on possible team mates of Exodus because as I sit here thinking about it from the POV that Exodus was bad, I can't think of a possible team mate from the remaining group.
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Re: X-Men [Day 7]

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Havok wrote:Ok, so if I am wrong and Exodus really was Mystique, I think it means that the baddies have been playing the exact opposite of what I've thought, and that would mean they are playing super low key games....letting everyone else go crazy and vote out everyone but them.

So, if Exodus was Mystique(not saying I believe that as I still think Domino makes more sense to be Mystique), his team mates totally abandoned him and left him out to dry even though they all knew he'd flip as a civvie role. I'd be interested to hear theories on possible team mates of Exodus because as I sit here thinking about it from the POV that Exodus was bad, I can't think of a possible team mate from the remaining group.
I'm one of those who thinks Exodus was the real Mystique: he was defensive, had the same piece of info as SC yet barely managed a NO U, and Domino later committed suicide as Mystique to prove what?
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Re: X-Men [Day 7]

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Hawkeye wrote:
Havok wrote:Ok, so if I am wrong and Exodus really was Mystique, I think it means that the baddies have been playing the exact opposite of what I've thought, and that would mean they are playing super low key games....letting everyone else go crazy and vote out everyone but them.

So, if Exodus was Mystique(not saying I believe that as I still think Domino makes more sense to be Mystique), his team mates totally abandoned him and left him out to dry even though they all knew he'd flip as a civvie role. I'd be interested to hear theories on possible team mates of Exodus because as I sit here thinking about it from the POV that Exodus was bad, I can't think of a possible team mate from the remaining group.
I'm one of those who thinks Exodus was the real Mystique: he was defensive, had the same piece of info as SC yet barely managed a NO U, and Domino later committed suicide as Mystique to prove what?
I'm not trying to argue Exodus vs Domino as the real Mystique. I've been doing that for days and it's led to where we are now. I'm trying to get a discussion going assuming I am wrong and that Exodus was Mystique.
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Re: X-Men [Day 7]

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Exodus
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Shadowcat (2), Sunfire (3), White Queen (5), The Vision (7), Mojo (8), Hawkeye (10), Cable (11), Longshot (12), Polaris (14), Sebastian Shaw (15)
59%

Sunfire
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Domino (9), Deadpool (13), Phoenix (16)
18%

Mojo
1
Havok (17)
6%

Sebastian Shaw
1
Mikhail Rasputin (6)
6%

Shadowcat
1
Exodus (4)
6%

Exodus's lynch so we have it to look at.
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Re: X-Men [Day 7]

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I've reread the Shadowcat/Exodus/Domino clusterfuck about 4 times, and every time I come up unsure. If Shadowcat is bad, she played it perfectly. If Exodus was bad, he played it horribly. If Domino was bad, it could go either way.

But here's my sticky point. if SC is bad, and Exodus was Gambit, I'm not sure I get why Domino (thus also bad, did what he did). If Domino kept his mouth shut about everything, we'd have likely lynched SC next. But by doing what he did, Domino died instead. One way, you've got a dead SC. the other, you've got a dead Domino and a Shadowcat STILL not cleared. It's wasteful, and when have you ever seen a baddie kamikaze like that for a teammate?

So I guess I'm leaning towards Exodus being Mystique, Shadowcat and Domino civs playing with very little subtlety about info lol, and the baddie team must be made up of a lot of inactive, unhelpful players?
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Re: X-Men [Day 7]

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Marrow has been very unhelpful. Reading thru the content takes about 3 minutes. And Marrow made a point a few times of staying clear of some eventual-civ lynches "I'm not touching THAT" etc. Baddies know who the civs are, so when someone is so defiantly against lynches that the rest of us felt were worth following, hindsight sometimes is telling.

But is that enough to warrant a lynch? It's Day 7, we've talked about so much... to now turn and lynch a quiet player seems weird, frankly. Is there a different quieter player whose got a better case to be made? I don't have time read back on Shaw or Deadpool, but I'm open to listening to cases there, and if we do go Marrow I'll support it, but I'd rather something a bit meatier.
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Re: X-Men [Day 7]

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Havok wrote:
Hawkeye wrote:
Havok wrote:Ok, so if I am wrong and Exodus really was Mystique, I think it means that the baddies have been playing the exact opposite of what I've thought, and that would mean they are playing super low key games....letting everyone else go crazy and vote out everyone but them.

So, if Exodus was Mystique(not saying I believe that as I still think Domino makes more sense to be Mystique), his team mates totally abandoned him and left him out to dry even though they all knew he'd flip as a civvie role. I'd be interested to hear theories on possible team mates of Exodus because as I sit here thinking about it from the POV that Exodus was bad, I can't think of a possible team mate from the remaining group.
I'm one of those who thinks Exodus was the real Mystique: he was defensive, had the same piece of info as SC yet barely managed a NO U, and Domino later committed suicide as Mystique to prove what?
I'm not trying to argue Exodus vs Domino as the real Mystique. I've been doing that for days and it's led to where we are now. I'm trying to get a discussion going assuming I am wrong and that Exodus was Mystique.
I see. The idea is SC basically showed up at the last minute and put a lot of effort into making that case which was crap. I assume it was just as unexpected for the baddies as it was for the rest of us. Think how you can't get everyone in the chat at the same time and agree upon one course of action. Look at the first six votes for Exodus, 1 was a confirmed civilian, 1 is most likely Apocalypse, and the other 3 I feel fairly good about. It could be a last minute bandwagoning, because like I said, we don't know exactly how Mystique role's really works.

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Re: X-Men [Day 7]

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Havok wrote:Ok, so if I am wrong and Exodus really was Mystique, I think it means that the baddies have been playing the exact opposite of what I've thought, and that would mean they are playing super low key games....letting everyone else go crazy and vote out everyone but them.

So, if Exodus was Mystique(not saying I believe that as I still think Domino makes more sense to be Mystique), his team mates totally abandoned him and left him out to dry even though they all knew he'd flip as a civvie role. I'd be interested to hear theories on possible team mates of Exodus because as I sit here thinking about it from the POV that Exodus was bad, I can't think of a possible team mate from the remaining group.
To me, this seems like what my reaction would be as a baddie scared of info. Admittedly, as you said, maybe that's a mistake if Exodus was going to flip civ anyway.

I'm bummed to have to leave before this lynch ends. At risk of starting a train by.voting so early, I'm going with Spiral. I would have liked to wait for his response. But like I said, I think we need a new direction, and I was suspicious of him a long time ago before all the craziness happened.

Linki: Viz, I pretty much totally agree with what you said. I think deadpool, marrow, and Shaw all fit that mold, as does avalanche to a lesser extent. I also think it seems a bit weird to vote one of them. Especially since they're likely not all bad, and baddies would potentially try steering us to the civs among those 3-4. So I'm still going for spiral today, but I think at least looking at them is a fine idea too
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Re: X-Men [Day 7]

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Havok wrote:Exodus
10
Shadowcat (2), Sunfire (3), White Queen (5), The Vision (7), Mojo (8), Hawkeye (10), Cable (11), Longshot (12), Polaris (14), Sebastian Shaw (15)
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Sunfire
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Domino (9), Deadpool (13), Phoenix (16)
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Mojo
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Havok (17)
6%

Sebastian Shaw
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Mikhail Rasputin (6)
6%

Shadowcat
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Exodus (4)
6%

Exodus's lynch so we have it to look at.
Thanks for posting this. I stopped at Cable. So of all those who voted for him, I'm not sure about Cable, I have no idea what to think about Shaw, I'm on the fence with Polaris, but I'm not comfortable with voting for her yet, and I feel pretty okay-ish about Longshot. So after all, maybe it wasn't a bandwagon. I'm clueless. :sigh:
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Re: X-Men [Day 7]

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I just read through Shaw's posts, all 27 of them.

He's done the same thing as Marrow; consistently saying "oh, that guy is good" with no explanation, and then when "that guy" is lynched and is civ, Shaw says "shoulda listened" or what have you.

These two sound like baddies coasting along, because baddies know who the civs are. And civs, if they have an info role or info from a prize, would try harder to convince people not to vote for civs; Marrow and Shaw just kind of put it out there that so-n-so is good without any thoughts.

I'm fine voting for one of them. Interesting to note, Shaw has been fairly supportive of The White Queen.
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I am fine voting Shaw or Marrow or Spiral. I've thought Shaw is hinky ever since he refused, no matter how many times i asked, to explain why he voted for Cable other than "he's bad". I just think it's important for us not to split our votes if we can help it. Who else is on our side that we can count on to vote with us?
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Longshot wrote:I am fine voting Shaw or Marrow or Spiral. I've thought Shaw is hinky ever since he refused, no matter how many times i asked, to explain why he voted for Cable other than "he's bad". I just think it's important for us not to split our votes if we can help it. Who else is on our side that we can count on to vote with us?
There's no time to build a consensus for this lynch. I'd say vote who you feel is likely to be bad, and hope others do the same. :noble:

I'm voting Shaw. He has a bit more meat to his posts than Marrow, and should yield more leads if the lynch is a success.
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Re: X-Men [Day 7]

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Epig, if we were to lynch someone who had been recruited, would the fact that they'd been recruited be revealed upon lynching?
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The Vision wrote:I just read through Shaw's posts, all 27 of them.

He's done the same thing as Marrow; consistently saying "oh, that guy is good" with no explanation, and then when "that guy" is lynched and is civ, Shaw says "shoulda listened" or what have you.

These two sound like baddies coasting along, because baddies know who the civs are. And civs, if they have an info role or info from a prize, would try harder to convince people not to vote for civs; Marrow and Shaw just kind of put it out there that so-n-so is good without any thoughts.

I'm fine voting for one of them. Interesting to note, Shaw has been fairly supportive of The White Queen.
This actually makes a lot of sense to me. Possible brotherhoodness and also connections to white queen could mean that we could learn a lot from his lynch, and i think learning is a thing we definitely need right now.

*goes back to read sebby's posts for myself*
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Ok that didn't really take long. Just lots of definitive statements with not much backup.
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The Vision wrote:I just read through Shaw's posts, all 27 of them.

He's done the same thing as Marrow; consistently saying "oh, that guy is good" with no explanation, and then when "that guy" is lynched and is civ, Shaw says "shoulda listened" or what have you.

These two sound like baddies coasting along, because baddies know who the civs are. And civs, if they have an info role or info from a prize, would try harder to convince people not to vote for civs; Marrow and Shaw just kind of put it out there that so-n-so is good without any thoughts.

I'm fine voting for one of them. Interesting to note, Shaw has been fairly supportive of The White Queen.
I haven't gone back for a read on their posts recently, but my memory tells me that Shaw has posted a tad more, but neither have been helpful.

Marrow did vote yesterday without posting. I think Shaw was silenced.
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Banshee wrote:Epig, if we were to lynch someone who had been recruited, would the fact that they'd been recruited be revealed upon lynching?
That's quite a loaded question, isn't it? :|
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My apologies for being a bit MIA the last day or so - trying to enjoy the last semblance of vacation IRL :)

I'm pleased to see others are mentioning suspicions of both Shaw and Marrow, who have made me wary for a while but were not at the forefront. I had mentioned in an earlier post that I was suspicious of Marrow's last-minute, nary-an-explanation voting style, which received no response from either Marrow or anyone else that I noticed, and my confusion as to why many people did not give Shaw's strange postings much thought. I'd be up to voting for either of those two today to confirm my suspicions.
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Epignosis wrote: That's quite a loaded question, isn't it? :|
:P C'mon man, spill. :noble:
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Epignosis wrote:
Banshee wrote:Epig, if we were to lynch someone who had been recruited, would the fact that they'd been recruited be revealed upon lynching?
That's quite a loaded question, isn't it? :|
I'm just speaking hypothetically. I don't wish for you to confirm anything about such roles or whether they exist... just.... in any situation where there were a secret recruiting role, would that roles recruitees be identifiable upon lynching?

I guess if you don't feel like you can answer that, it's ok.
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Spiral wrote:I don't trust any of you. I think you're all using faulty logic based on assumptions, thinking your word is the word of god. You all sounds bad to me at this point.
I'm not.

Although, this is the first sensible thing anyone has said all game. I don't like the assumptions either, particularly the one about White Queen being Apocalypse. It is a great way for her to say "Don't look at me! I can't be killed anyway!" I'm not buying it, so I am voting for her. Also, she didn't uphold our survivors alliance and I am bitter about that.

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Hawkeye wrote:
Spiral wrote: Because your last minute vote switching makes me feel not good about you, and I think White Queen is Apocalypse and I think that it's useless to lynch her at the moment.

But nice to know that you think anyone who doesn't agree with you must not read your posts.

I'm so sick of people in this game vaguely insinuating that I'm not reading.
Okay, let's try and discuss this.

I agree that trying to lynch WQ is useless. It's frustrating because now she can get away with anything, but that's the way it is, and I'm trying to ignore her. Have you followed my post sequence on Day 6? On the first day of the cycle I said I did not like her reaction to surviving a night kill and that I would be looking into it. You should know it because you replied to it. I return the next day making that post with which you agreed. However, it was an even cycle, so I advised people to try and not spread the vote, including you, who had already voted for WQ. Then while I was posting that, SC says she's down for a WQ vote. So, because I was not going to vote for Rasputin, and was not comfortable with a Havok vote either I switched, hoping that more people would follow. Then I realized with all the redirected powers from the previous night that if Magneto was still alive, there was a high chance that his target was redirected as well and took a chance which ended in WQ being the main candidate for that lynch. She survived, and it's very likely that she's Apocalypse. I keep posting this over and over and nobody seems to care because they don't even bother addressing it, so I assume they're not reading or they are reading it but choose to ignore it on purpose because it clashes with their personal agenda.

And to address your last point. I understand you are sick of people insinuating that, I was straightforward about it, but do you see why some people assume that? It's the way you choose to reply to some posts. Not all of them, I've seen you take your time and reply properly. I'm talking about my case because I'm mostly familiar with this one. I try to address everything in a post whether I agree with it or not. You don't do that. I usually make extensive posts, and in your replies, you ignore the core of the post and either pick on something that I don't think it's worth picking on especially since you don't explain why, or like last time go 'lol you're so bad' without explaining why or taking anything that I've posted into consideration. That's why I assume you're not reading. But apparently it's not the case. So then it really makes me wonder. Why do you choose to ignore things?

Linki tits ;) - I was just about to post how you're not reading what I'm posting, but yay! And to answer your question: Yes! That's what I've been trying to say for a few days now. And keep in mind that it's not reduced solely to maths. The rest of the explanation requires discussing PM content. Read this reply to Spiral about the sequence of events.
Here's the think Hawkeye, you aren't reading my posts. That's very clear. White Queen didn't survive a NK-- it was redirected. I also looked into White Queen for her reaction to that. However, the difference is that you switched your vote last minute. I did not. All of this last minute vote switching is causing chaos. I believe this isn't your first time doing that either, time game.
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Spiral wrote:I don't trust any of you. I think you're all using faulty logic based on assumptions, thinking your word is the word of god. You all sounds bad to me at this point.
Well, that's not the most productive mindset. Only 6 of us can be bad this point, maximum.

Linki: So, Polaris, it's ok to change our minds last-minute and vote whoever, but not to carefully consider and update our suspicions as time and events dictate? Ok, then. You and I are clearly playing different games.
Ah, Mikahil, the king of ignoring things when they're inconvenient. What happened to the four recruited players? :rolleyes:

I don't trust any of you. You all sound bad to me. You are all very adversarial to me. You all have done things to make me not want to trust you. Sorry.
The Vision wrote:Marrow has been very unhelpful. Reading thru the content takes about 3 minutes. And Marrow made a point a few times of staying clear of some eventual-civ lynches "I'm not touching THAT" etc. Baddies know who the civs are, so when someone is so defiantly against lynches that the rest of us felt were worth following, hindsight sometimes is telling.

But is that enough to warrant a lynch? It's Day 7, we've talked about so much... to now turn and lynch a quiet player seems weird, frankly. Is there a different quieter player whose got a better case to be made? I don't have time read back on Shaw or Deadpool, but I'm open to listening to cases there, and if we do go Marrow I'll support it, but I'd rather something a bit meatier.
This is a good point. I'd get behind a Marrow lynch.
This is something that makes fucking sense to me.
The Vision wrote:I just read through Shaw's posts, all 27 of them.

He's done the same thing as Marrow; consistently saying "oh, that guy is good" with no explanation, and then when "that guy" is lynched and is civ, Shaw says "shoulda listened" or what have you.

These two sound like baddies coasting along, because baddies know who the civs are. And civs, if they have an info role or info from a prize, would try harder to convince people not to vote for civs; Marrow and Shaw just kind of put it out there that so-n-so is good without any thoughts.

I'm fine voting for one of them. Interesting to note, Shaw has been fairly supportive of The White Queen.
Same as above.
Longshot wrote:I am fine voting Shaw or Marrow or Spiral. I've thought Shaw is hinky ever since he refused, no matter how many times i asked, to explain why he voted for Cable other than "he's bad". I just think it's important for us not to split our votes if we can help it. Who else is on our side that we can count on to vote with us?
Have you ever mentioned my name before righ tnow?



I'm voting for Sebastina Shaw. Bye.
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looking back at marrow's posts... he seems to basically drop in to say "i'm going with ____" ever since day three... most of his posts have been like that.

other than that there were some unpleasant posts re: morlocks on day 0
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The Vision wrote:Marrow has been very unhelpful. Reading thru the content takes about 3 minutes. And Marrow made a point a few times of staying clear of some eventual-civ lynches "I'm not touching THAT" etc. Baddies know who the civs are, so when someone is so defiantly against lynches that the rest of us felt were worth following, hindsight sometimes is telling.

But is that enough to warrant a lynch? It's Day 7, we've talked about so much... to now turn and lynch a quiet player seems weird, frankly. Is there a different quieter player whose got a better case to be made? I don't have time read back on Shaw or Deadpool, but I'm open to listening to cases there, and if we do go Marrow I'll support it, but I'd rather something a bit meatier.
I want to apologize for not being around enough, RL has gotten in the way, and I'm struggling to vote every day. Other than me not being around, which is not my choice, your only other point against me is that I didn't lynch civvies. I see no flaws in that logic.
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Re: X-Men [Day 7]

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Marrow wrote:I want to apologize for not being around enough, RL has gotten in the way, and I'm struggling to vote every day. Other than me not being around, which is not my choice, your only other point against me is that I didn't lynch civvies. I see no flaws in that logic.
There's a subtle difference here, though.

Player A has a vote history of not being on lynch trains of civs. They always discuss their reasoning for voting how they do, they put forth suspicions, they defend who they feel is civ and try to keep people from voting them.

Player B has a vote history of not being on lynch trains of civs. They never really pursue any suspicions. They never explain why they feel how they do about people. They just say "oh, that guy's civ, I'm not touching that lynch train".

Guess which tends to be a baddie?
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Re: X-Men [Day 7]

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So Marrow doesn't post anything for a week, and then after her name is brought up, she pops in to explain herself? Seems fishy, eh?
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Re: X-Men [Day 7]

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Since you are here Marrow, tell me, would you be up for a Shaw lynch? You can read his posts, there aren't a ton. LMK what you think of him. And if not Shaw, who will you vote for? And why?
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Re: X-Men [Day 7]

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Spiral wrote:
Hawkeye wrote:
Spiral wrote: Because your last minute vote switching makes me feel not good about you, and I think White Queen is Apocalypse and I think that it's useless to lynch her at the moment.

But nice to know that you think anyone who doesn't agree with you must not read your posts.

I'm so sick of people in this game vaguely insinuating that I'm not reading.
Okay, let's try and discuss this.

I agree that trying to lynch WQ is useless. It's frustrating because now she can get away with anything, but that's the way it is, and I'm trying to ignore her. Have you followed my post sequence on Day 6? On the first day of the cycle I said I did not like her reaction to surviving a night kill and that I would be looking into it. You should know it because you replied to it. I return the next day making that post with which you agreed. However, it was an even cycle, so I advised people to try and not spread the vote, including you, who had already voted for WQ. Then while I was posting that, SC says she's down for a WQ vote. So, because I was not going to vote for Rasputin, and was not comfortable with a Havok vote either I switched, hoping that more people would follow. Then I realized with all the redirected powers from the previous night that if Magneto was still alive, there was a high chance that his target was redirected as well and took a chance which ended in WQ being the main candidate for that lynch. She survived, and it's very likely that she's Apocalypse. I keep posting this over and over and nobody seems to care because they don't even bother addressing it, so I assume they're not reading or they are reading it but choose to ignore it on purpose because it clashes with their personal agenda.

And to address your last point. I understand you are sick of people insinuating that, I was straightforward about it, but do you see why some people assume that? It's the way you choose to reply to some posts. Not all of them, I've seen you take your time and reply properly. I'm talking about my case because I'm mostly familiar with this one. I try to address everything in a post whether I agree with it or not. You don't do that. I usually make extensive posts, and in your replies, you ignore the core of the post and either pick on something that I don't think it's worth picking on especially since you don't explain why, or like last time go 'lol you're so bad' without explaining why or taking anything that I've posted into consideration. That's why I assume you're not reading. But apparently it's not the case. So then it really makes me wonder. Why do you choose to ignore things?

Linki tits ;) - I was just about to post how you're not reading what I'm posting, but yay! And to answer your question: Yes! That's what I've been trying to say for a few days now. And keep in mind that it's not reduced solely to maths. The rest of the explanation requires discussing PM content. Read this reply to Spiral about the sequence of events.
Here's the think Hawkeye, you aren't reading my posts. That's very clear. White Queen didn't survive a NK-- it was redirected. I also looked into White Queen for her reaction to that. However, the difference is that you switched your vote last minute. I did not. All of this last minute vote switching is causing chaos. I believe this isn't your first time doing that either, time game.
It seems you haven't been reading my posts either. I know it looks like a redirect on the night White Queen survived a NK, but she followed it up anyway by saying that if the kill had gone through, she would have survived anyway, and she knew why. I made all of that very clear here. She has not once denied it, and so much of her reactions seem to indicate that there is some soundness and that post, particularly this post. I'm not trying to distract, because like I said, it would be a waste to try and lynch and unlynchable (ahem, Avalanche).

Linki - Banshee, I know I would disregard the unpleasant ones, as they're probably OT. However, There has been zero content since then coming from her, which has been slightly less than Sebastian or Avalanche.

I'd vote Marrow if it came down to an inactive. But I'm not ready to commit to that just yet.

Linki 2 - Hi Marrow. Yes not voting civvies is a decent case, and something I think Havok and I accused Mikhail doing as well. Civvies don't know enough and are bound to be wrong at some point. A baddie knows who the civvies are, making it easier to stay away from a civvie lynch if things go right.
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Re: X-Men [Day 7]

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Avalanche wrote:So Marrow doesn't post anything for a week, and then after her name is brought up, she pops in to explain herself? Seems fishy, eh?
I didn't want to say it, but... lol, yes.
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Re: X-Men [Day 7]

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Avalanche wrote:So Marrow doesn't post anything for a week, and then after her name is brought up, she pops in to explain herself? Seems fishy, eh?
i was thinking this same thing :0
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Re: X-Men [Day 7]

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marrow have you been following along and just not posting?
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Re: X-Men [Day 7]

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so after all that jibberjab u guys wanna lynch a low poster on day 7. real original guys i guess the baddies must truly b runnin the show after all. thats some weaksauce. i wont be votin for shaw or marrow just cuz they aint been as prolific of posters as some of yall
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Re: X-Men [Day 7]

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The Vision wrote:
Avalanche wrote:So Marrow doesn't post anything for a week, and then after her name is brought up, she pops in to explain herself? Seems fishy, eh?
I didn't want to say it, but... lol, yes.
Wow. That is a bit odd. 6 days without a post and then right when discussion turns to inactives, there is Marrow to offer up a defense. :ponder:
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Re: X-Men [Day 7]

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Deadpool wrote:so after all that jibberjab u guys wanna lynch a low poster on day 7. real original guys i guess the baddies must truly b runnin the show after all. thats some weaksauce. i wont be votin for shaw or marrow just cuz they aint been as prolific of posters as some of yall

Not me. I want to lynch White Queen. Or should I say White Lie?
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Re: X-Men [Day 7]

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Avalanche wrote:
Deadpool wrote:so after all that jibberjab u guys wanna lynch a low poster on day 7. real original guys i guess the baddies must truly b runnin the show after all. thats some weaksauce. i wont be votin for shaw or marrow just cuz they aint been as prolific of posters as some of yall

Not me. I want to lynch White Queen. Or should I say White Lie?
So, you don't think she's Apocalypse? You just think she's been lying or is there anything else that leads you to this conclusion?
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Re: X-Men [Day 7]

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Deadpool wrote:so after all that jibberjab u guys wanna lynch a low poster on day 7. real original guys i guess the baddies must truly b runnin the show after all. thats some weaksauce. i wont be votin for shaw or marrow just cuz they aint been as prolific of posters as some of yall
I'm open to suggestions, deadpool, gimme a case to peruse!
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Re: X-Men [Day 7]

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Havok wrote:
Avalanche wrote:
Deadpool wrote:so after all that jibberjab u guys wanna lynch a low poster on day 7. real original guys i guess the baddies must truly b runnin the show after all. thats some weaksauce. i wont be votin for shaw or marrow just cuz they aint been as prolific of posters as some of yall

Not me. I want to lynch White Queen. Or should I say White Lie?
So, you don't think she's Apocalypse? You just think she's been lying or is there anything else that leads you to this conclusion?
I think it's a convenient assumption for a baddie to play up to. And I am mad at her for ignoring the survivors alliance.
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Re: X-Men [Day 7]

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viz i think spiral sounds bad im probs gonna vote4him
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Re: X-Men [Day 7]

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Spiral, dude, I'm lost. I am well aware WQ didn't actually survive it, but that's what she initially claimed. And yes, I have switched votes at the last minute and not once, most were during the Magneto frenzy. I asked you one question. Why do you ignore things? And your answer is 'no, you don't read my posts'. :|

Guys, are we still doing it? The formula: main suspect gets X votes, the second one X/2+1?

I went back and read Seb and Marrow (oh hai Marrow): similar content, slightly different delivery. Both are good choices.

V, what's your take on Spiral? I've tried to give him chance after chance and this is what I get. He seems to agree with you most of the time though.
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Re: X-Men [Day 7]

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Deadpool wrote:viz i think spiral sounds bad im probs gonna vote4him
Deadpool, I searched your posts, and you've only mentioned spiral twice before this, and neither time in a negative way. in fact, the first time you mentioned him you agreed with him about something.

Why is he suddenly bad? If you think voting Shaw/Marrow is a bad idea and spiral is a better one, I need more than "sounds bad", man.
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Re: X-Men [Day 7]

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Just read Shaw's posts, and I see the suspicion there for sure. So much, "So and so is good" and "No one listens to me" and "I think he's good". Every person that he says he thinks is good has turned up lynched and a civvie. So, if he has such a handle on the game, why is he using it to tell us who's good? Why not tell us who's bad? I can get behind a Shaw lynch.

*votes accordingly*
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Re: X-Men [Day 7]

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Hawkeye, I read back thru his posts an hour or so ago because I saw Mikhail had voted him. I think Spiral is active, a bit snarky, has gotten into some fights with Mikhail and others, and definitely could be bad, but I could read him as a good guy, too. He's in the middle for me, so I doubt I'll be voting him today. I feel like he and Mikhail and just alpha-maling against each other, frankly. I'm curious to hear what Deadpool has to say about it, though.
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Re: X-Men [Day 7]

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As far as I'm concerned we should still do it. I'm just waiting to determine who the most appropriate person is to vote. Actually, I'll go ahead and put my vote on Shaw though I'm a little worried about that since Spiral voted for him and Mikhail voted for Spiral. But I'll do that and then if I need to move my vote for the math I will be willing to do so.
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Re: X-Men [Day 7]

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As for the formula, I'm not worrying about it too much today. I feel like so many new names are being thrown around, that trying to guess which ones Magneto may have messed with is likely impossible. For me, anyway, give it a go if you want to try to guess, I'll listen, lol!
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Re: X-Men [Day 7]

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What the hell is going on with the other game? LMAO. I clicked the view new posts link and saw 2 X-Men threads I didn't know what the hell was going on. :haha:
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Re: X-Men [Day 7]

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i actually wanna vote 4 u viz becuz i think u and mikhail rasputin are brotherhoodlums 2gether but i have no idea how 2 make a case on either 1 of u and if i speak out against u ill probs get killed and i dont wanna die

so i dont really care 2 convince u of anythin lol i think ur bad and i think spiral mite b one of the horsemen.
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