Radiohead Mafia [GAME OVER]

[juliets]

[VOTE: alison] aubergine sorry pal but I gotta sheep sprit

Colin, did I miss something? I see you're sheeping sprityo but isn't there anything about Alison you can point to and say scum?

I want to trust Alison but she’s firmly in the can’t-ever-fully-trust camp for me unfortunately.

Ok thank you for answering. Sounds like you've been down this road before.

[MacDougall]

I also think it's absolutely whack that Nanook has held the vote he cast on nutella and when I was reading that stupid soup conversation in realtime I felt like I was watching wolves yapping away together.

you scumread nutella as well though, right? why is it weird for nanook to be voting her?

Unless he subsequently justified his vote Nanook is not voting her for any valid reason. He voted her because she got mad that people didn't like french onion soup. I believe he is voting her because he considers it the tactically correct thing to be doing. I believe the soup conversation was a front for them to stage distancing. Specifically because it occurred not long after I made this post.

Finally read the 550 posts that were made while I slept.

Sprityo feels like he is being town spewed.

I think Nutella and Nanook are mafia.

[nutella]

nutella - Meta read. Hasn't been mindmelding. Ignoring the fact I am scumreading her (generally when I scum read her as town she gets mad and either omgussing me or calls me out for being a dumbass).

dumbass

[MacDougall]

nutella - Meta read. Hasn't been mindmelding. Ignoring the fact I am scumreading her (generally when I scum read her as town she gets mad and either omgussing me or calls me out for being a dumbass).

dumbass

How many times did you write a sentence and delete it before you arrived at this being the post least likely to make me tunnel you?

[Samusamu]

Yeah Hally my general point is that it's very easy to feel intimidated as wolf and just lowpost when you see town have this much energy and make reads at so rapid a pace. And it wouldn't even be wrong because one of the best strategies to combat a bunch of town finding each other early on is to just do nothing, let the game stagnate as they pick off the active posters in the POE first because of recency bias and then fall apart into squabbling because they start to suspect a deepwolf amongst themselves and nobody wants to be the one to say "okay, let's gun down the afks". That's one of the best ways to beat a pure towncore that finds itself very early, so I'm comfortable with saying "maybe the mafia are just all in the lurkers".

Seems genuine.

[staypositivefriend]

I also think it's absolutely whack that Nanook has held the vote he cast on nutella and when I was reading that stupid soup conversation in realtime I felt like I was watching wolves yapping away together.

you scumread nutella as well though, right? why is it weird for nanook to be voting her?

Unless he subsequently justified his vote Nanook is not voting her for any valid reason. He voted her because she got mad that people didn't like french onion soup. I believe he is voting her because he considers it the tactically correct thing to be doing. I believe the soup conversation was a front for them to stage distancing. Specifically because it occurred not long after I made this post.

Finally read the 550 posts that were made while I slept.

Sprityo feels like he is being town spewed.

I think Nutella and Nanook are mafia.

good explanation. not sure about the nutella/nanook team in particular but i am interested in this train of thought

[MacDougall]

Sprityo and Colin voting on Alison makes me just want to turbo one of them. Alison is the most obvious town I have ever seen and hiding behind excuses like "oh gee I can't trust her" is absolutely scummy as fuck. So what if she's good enough as mafia to fool people. Unless she's being anti town here (which she is absolutely not right now) and unless her content is strictly confusing to your read on the game, you should just townclear her.

Specifically I think Colin sheeping Sprityo on it is absolutely worthy of him having about 9 votes on him inside the next 90 minutes.

[nutella]

[VOTE: alison] aubergine sorry pal but I gotta sheep sprit

Colin, did I miss something? I see you're sheeping sprityo but isn't there anything about Alison you can point to and say scum?

I want to trust Alison but she’s firmly in the can’t-ever-fully-trust camp for me unfortunately.

Ok thank you for answering. Sounds like you've been down this road before.

weird post

[MacDougall]

I also think it's absolutely whack that Nanook has held the vote he cast on nutella and when I was reading that stupid soup conversation in realtime I felt like I was watching wolves yapping away together.

you scumread nutella as well though, right? why is it weird for nanook to be voting her?

Unless he subsequently justified his vote Nanook is not voting her for any valid reason. He voted her because she got mad that people didn't like french onion soup. I believe he is voting her because he considers it the tactically correct thing to be doing. I believe the soup conversation was a front for them to stage distancing. Specifically because it occurred not long after I made this post.

Finally read the 550 posts that were made while I slept.

Sprityo feels like he is being town spewed.

I think Nutella and Nanook are mafia.

good explanation. not sure about the nutella/nanook team in particular but i am interested in this train of thought

Imo when people hold meme votes or meme claims they are >rand mafia.

[nutella]

nutella - Meta read. Hasn't been mindmelding. Ignoring the fact I am scumreading her (generally when I scum read her as town she gets mad and either omgussing me or calls me out for being a dumbass).

dumbass

How many times did you write a sentence and delete it before you arrived at this being the post least likely to make me tunnel you?

not at all

[MacDougall]

[VOTE: Coliniscool] aubergine

Colin cleared himself to me near immediately in the animals game because he was obviously in his town meta and out of his wolfrange. Similarly he is just mafia in this game.

[juliets]

Oh @nutella I almost forgot I wanted to ask you why you are scum reading me?

the slot you replaced had been fairly scummy by default, and your posts so far haven't inspired me. I kind of feel like your list of townreads (and now explanations for them) could be on the forced side and your tone is sort of stilted -- I always have trouble reading you on tone though. watching for more from you

Ok thanks. One thing that puzzles me is that you find my stilted tone to be indicative of a wolf read since I always have that same tone. One reason - as someone pointed out in another game - is I do not use a lot of contractions. Makes me sound stiff. Anyway, I appreciate that you will keep a somewhat open mind as we go forward.

[ColinIsCool]

[VOTE: alison] aubergine sorry pal but I gotta sheep sprit

Colin, did I miss something? I see you're sheeping sprityo but isn't there anything about Alison you can point to and say scum?

I want to trust Alison but she’s firmly in the can’t-ever-fully-trust camp for me unfortunately.

Strangely phrased sentence. It's like you are afraid of saying something too jarring like "I can never trust her" so you preface it with a lamentation to take the edge off. This is a mafia phrasing.

Yeah maybe

[ColinIsCool]

I also think it's absolutely whack that Nanook has held the vote he cast on nutella and when I was reading that stupid soup conversation in realtime I felt like I was watching wolves yapping away together.

The second part of this, yup

[MacDougall]

I also think it's absolutely whack that Nanook has held the vote he cast on nutella and when I was reading that stupid soup conversation in realtime I felt like I was watching wolves yapping away together.

The second part of this, yup

[juliets]

[VOTE: alison] aubergine sorry pal but I gotta sheep sprit

Colin, did I miss something? I see you're sheeping sprityo but isn't there anything about Alison you can point to and say scum?

I want to trust Alison but she’s firmly in the can’t-ever-fully-trust camp for me unfortunately.

Ok thank you for answering. Sounds like you've been down this road before.

weird post

I assumed he had played with her before and been fooled.

[ColinIsCool]

[VOTE: Coliniscool] aubergine

Colin cleared himself to me near immediately in the animals game because he was obviously in his town meta and out of his wolfrange. Similarly he is just mafia in this game.

Nah. In Animals I looked town because I could actually play cause I was in the thread from the start. Here (and elsewhere) I have to play catch-up and read a billion posts about nothing and end up looking like a scuzz

[nutella]

Oh @nutella I almost forgot I wanted to ask you why you are scum reading me?

the slot you replaced had been fairly scummy by default, and your posts so far haven't inspired me. I kind of feel like your list of townreads (and now explanations for them) could be on the forced side and your tone is sort of stilted -- I always have trouble reading you on tone though. watching for more from you

Ok thanks. One thing that puzzles me is that you find my stilted tone to be indicative of a wolf read since I always have that same tone. One reason - as someone pointed out in another game - is I do not use a lot of contractions. Makes me sound stiff. Anyway, I appreciate that you will keep a somewhat open mind as we go forward.

lol

[ColinIsCool]

[VOTE: alison] aubergine sorry pal but I gotta sheep sprit

Colin, did I miss something? I see you're sheeping sprityo but isn't there anything about Alison you can point to and say scum?

I want to trust Alison but she’s firmly in the can’t-ever-fully-trust camp for me unfortunately.

Ok thank you for answering. Sounds like you've been down this road before.

weird post

I assumed he had played with her before and been fooled.

I don’t think I have seen scum Alison actually but I fear the concept.

[nutella]

[VOTE: alison] aubergine sorry pal but I gotta sheep sprit

Colin, did I miss something? I see you're sheeping sprityo but isn't there anything about Alison you can point to and say scum?

I want to trust Alison but she’s firmly in the can’t-ever-fully-trust camp for me unfortunately.

Strangely phrased sentence. It's like you are afraid of saying something too jarring like "I can never trust her" so you preface it with a lamentation to take the edge off. This is a mafia phrasing.

Yeah maybe

I also think it's absolutely whack that Nanook has held the vote he cast on nutella and when I was reading that stupid soup conversation in realtime I felt like I was watching wolves yapping away together.

The second part of this, yup

uh

guess colin is just openwolfing

maybe not all of mac's reads are trash

[VOTE: colin] aubergine

[MacDougall]

People in my lock town reads are currently voting as such:

JPIC 1
Nutella 1
Oddmerta 1
Samusamu 1
tedxtr 1
tutuu 1
No one 1

Someone want to tell me what's wrong with this picture?

[ColinIsCool]

No u Nutella

[Samusamu]

I cannot believe how my mood matches my avatar! I'm gonna take a little walk.

are you someone who likes being town or scum more? i forget

I love being town ! as scum I get either bussed day 1 or get carried. i think my meta can be well explained by @tedxtr if you want. I don't think you should trust someone's self meta?

ok then you’re probably just town on vibe alone

I think your progression on my read is rather natural than tututu. but trust me you do not have to rely on vibes alone, cause I think you'd be able to read me as the game progresses.

somehow I am not getting the vibe on tututu as town. @tutuu we barely interacted, why am I on your town list?

cuz u seem like u'd be a terrible liar

I see why they call you town. although i don't know if i should sheep their reads yet.

Tuutuu ans also alise are literally trying to reclute for the towncore that alise made, why are u refusing? Can u elaborate this post more?

[MacDougall]

[VOTE: alison] aubergine sorry pal but I gotta sheep sprit

Colin, did I miss something? I see you're sheeping sprityo but isn't there anything about Alison you can point to and say scum?

I want to trust Alison but she’s firmly in the can’t-ever-fully-trust camp for me unfortunately.

Strangely phrased sentence. It's like you are afraid of saying something too jarring like "I can never trust her" so you preface it with a lamentation to take the edge off. This is a mafia phrasing.

Yeah maybe

I also think it's absolutely whack that Nanook has held the vote he cast on nutella and when I was reading that stupid soup conversation in realtime I felt like I was watching wolves yapping away together.

The second part of this, yup

uh

guess colin is just openwolfing

maybe not all of mac's reads are trash

[VOTE: colin] aubergine

Okay you don't get to make statements like this without telling me why you think all my other reads are trash.

[staypositivefriend]

People in my lock town reads are currently voting as such:

JPIC 1
Nutella 1
Oddmerta 1
Samusamu 1
tedxtr 1
tutuu 1
No one 1

Someone want to tell me what's wrong with this picture?

not enough votes on JPIC

[MacDougall]

People in my lock town reads are currently voting as such:

JPIC 1
Nutella 1
Oddmerta 1
Samusamu 1
tedxtr 1
tutuu 1
No one 1

Someone want to tell me what's wrong with this picture?

not enough votes on JPIC

Well that's a fair point. More to the point is that while we have this quite aligned towncore of people all reading each other town we aren't placing wagon pressure anywhere or working as a force.

Tutuu is also voting for no one, for what reason i will never know.

And finally there are votes on Samusamu and tutuu which make me want to slap those voters with a fish.

[nutella]

[VOTE: alison] aubergine sorry pal but I gotta sheep sprit

Colin, did I miss something? I see you're sheeping sprityo but isn't there anything about Alison you can point to and say scum?

I want to trust Alison but she’s firmly in the can’t-ever-fully-trust camp for me unfortunately.

Ok thank you for answering. Sounds like you've been down this road before.

weird post

I assumed he had played with her before and been fooled.

yeah I understood just.... the wording made me narrow my eyes a bit

[Samusamu]

I cannot believe how my mood matches my avatar! I'm gonna take a little walk.

are you someone who likes being town or scum more? i forget

I love being town ! as scum I get either bussed day 1 or get carried. i think my meta can be well explained by @tedxtr if you want. I don't think you should trust someone's self meta?

ok then you’re probably just town on vibe alone

I think your progression on my read is rather natural than tututu. but trust me you do not have to rely on vibes alone, cause I think you'd be able to read me as the game progresses.

somehow I am not getting the vibe on tututu as town. @tutuu we barely interacted, why am I on your town list?

Yep you say this but i want you to elaborate a little more.

[MacDougall]

We have 29 pages of content but very little of it is influenced by wagon pressure so it's largely going to be NAI when you look for teammate indicative content. The mafia may be being forced to keep a steep pace but they aren't being forced to make plays.

[ColinIsCool]

Nutella you should know extremely well that any time my “wording” makes you uncomfortable it means I’m town and I am devoting zero braincells to my play

[nutella]

[VOTE: Coliniscool] aubergine

Colin cleared himself to me near immediately in the animals game because he was obviously in his town meta and out of his wolfrange. Similarly he is just mafia in this game.

Nah. In Animals I looked town because I could actually play cause I was in the thread from the start. Here (and elsewhere) I have to play catch-up and read a billion posts about nothing and end up looking like a scuzz

oh wait this feels ok maybe fuck idk

[MacDougall]

Yep colin is clear.

[MacDougall]

[VOTE: Nanook] aubergine

[nutella]

[VOTE: alison] aubergine sorry pal but I gotta sheep sprit

Colin, did I miss something? I see you're sheeping sprityo but isn't there anything about Alison you can point to and say scum?

I want to trust Alison but she’s firmly in the can’t-ever-fully-trust camp for me unfortunately.

Strangely phrased sentence. It's like you are afraid of saying something too jarring like "I can never trust her" so you preface it with a lamentation to take the edge off. This is a mafia phrasing.

Yeah maybe

I also think it's absolutely whack that Nanook has held the vote he cast on nutella and when I was reading that stupid soup conversation in realtime I felt like I was watching wolves yapping away together.

The second part of this, yup

uh

guess colin is just openwolfing

maybe not all of mac's reads are trash

[VOTE: colin] aubergine

Okay you don't get to make statements like this without telling me why you think all my other reads are trash.

well obviously i think the thing about nanook and me and the soupreads is wrong

also your ted read is misguided imo

[nutella]

Nutella you should know extremely well that any time my “wording” makes you uncomfortable it means I’m town and I am devoting zero braincells to my play

no it was juliets' wording I didn't like


I've been pinged by the tone of literally all her posts so far

[MacDougall]

I feel like this list has high town equity and have seen significant self clearing posts from all of them:

Alison
ColinIsCool
Dyslexicon
Juliets
Hally
Master Radishes
Poison Chan
Samusamu
staypositivefriend
Timsup2nothin
tutuu

I think this list is probably town, but I have reservations:

DrWilgy - Specifically I cannot resolve some of the angles he's taken in the game, and DrWilgy appears to have finally regathered his wim from years gone by which makes him probably the best player in the entire game ergo foolish to ever trust.
dyachei - I cannot help but feel like they would have towncleared themselves to me if they were town. Have played the game quite myopically.
Herm - The ratio that is the frequency with which I have seen them post, or mentioned vs. the impact they have left on me leaves some to be desired. I would like to see some more reasoned perspectives.
nutella - Meta read. Hasn't been mindmelding. Ignoring the fact I am scumreading her (generally when I scum read her as town she gets mad and either omgussing me or calls me out for being a dumbass). - Mindmelded on Colin and she called me a dumbass.
Oddmerta - Despite early clears, appears to have been overwhelmed in a way that can be struggling to find legitimate pathways as mafia, or simply just town that is coasting on being largely townread.
sprityo - Has been scummy in their meta way but I feel they have been spewed clear through TMI.

This list is essentially pure null avocado assholes that should have their feet tickled until they show us their role cards:

Long Con - I can't recall them even posting.

This list is the current POE:

Justplayingitcool - Has been scummy since the start and done really nothing to warrant a clear besides lolcat. Clearing this guy for that behaviour is ridiculous.
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME - Meta read. Hasn't been mindmelding. Hasn't been talking to me much at all. Feels like someone who is struggling to find legitimate paths to take.
tedxtr - Has felt off since the get go. I don't buy that he was playing scummy on purpose. If he was playing scummy on purpose why did he get upset for being scumread? Wouldn't that be the intention?

[nutella]

back to [VOTE: fallenjules] aubergine

[MacDougall]

Colin, did I miss something? I see you're sheeping sprityo but isn't there anything about Alison you can point to and say scum?

I want to trust Alison but she’s firmly in the can’t-ever-fully-trust camp for me unfortunately.

Strangely phrased sentence. It's like you are afraid of saying something too jarring like "I can never trust her" so you preface it with a lamentation to take the edge off. This is a mafia phrasing.

Yeah maybe

I also think it's absolutely whack that Nanook has held the vote he cast on nutella and when I was reading that stupid soup conversation in realtime I felt like I was watching wolves yapping away together.

The second part of this, yup

uh

guess colin is just openwolfing

maybe not all of mac's reads are trash

[VOTE: colin] aubergine

Okay you don't get to make statements like this without telling me why you think all my other reads are trash.

well obviously i think the thing about nanook and me and the soupreads is wrong

also your ted read is misguided imo

Okay so explain how my ted read is misguided.

For posterity, Ted claimed he was playing scummy on purpose to justify why he was getting scumread and then went ahead and got tilted out of the game for being scumread despite playing scummy on purpose. Firstly, why would Ted choose to play scummy on purpose after finally randing town, and if he randed town and decided to play scummy on purpose why would he tilted out of the game for catching flak?

[nutella]

juliets I know that your tone is like that regardless of your alignment but I just feel like you haven't really done the things I expect you to do as town yet. and I know you probably still haven't caught up/gotten your head really in the game yet so I'll wait for you to settle in and interact with people a bit more but I'm the opposite of inspired from your posts so far.

[MacDougall]

Nutella how do you read Nanook?

[MacDougall]

Honestly choosing to go after Juliets here of all people feels like basically the most opportunistic scummy possible path you could take so I regret moving you out of my POE now. Also on top of that I think you realised how opportunistic it was and your wishy washy explanation following the naked vote shows guilty mind.

[staypositivefriend]

juliets I know that your tone is like that regardless of your alignment but I just feel like you haven't really done the things I expect you to do as town yet. and I know you probably still haven't caught up/gotten your head really in the game yet so I'll wait for you to settle in and interact with people a bit more but I'm the opposite of inspired from your posts so far.

what are the things you would expect her to be doing as town that she is not doing now?

[MacDougall]

I feel like this list has high town equity and have seen significant self clearing posts from all of them:

Alison
ColinIsCool
Dyslexicon
Juliets
Hally
Master Radishes
Poison Chan
Samusamu
staypositivefriend
Timsup2nothin
tutuu

I think this list is probably town, but I have reservations:

DrWilgy - Specifically I cannot resolve some of the angles he's taken in the game, and DrWilgy appears to have finally regathered his wim from years gone by which makes him probably the best player in the entire game ergo foolish to ever trust.
dyachei - I cannot help but feel like they would have towncleared themselves to me if they were town. Have played the game quite myopically.
Herm - The ratio that is the frequency with which I have seen them post, or mentioned vs. the impact they have left on me leaves some to be desired. I would like to see some more reasoned perspectives.
Oddmerta - Despite early clears, appears to have been overwhelmed in a way that can be struggling to find legitimate pathways as mafia, or simply just town that is coasting on being largely townread.
sprityo - Has been scummy in their meta way but I feel they have been spewed clear through TMI.

This list is essentially pure null avocado assholes that should have their feet tickled until they show us their role cards:

Long Con - I can't recall them even posting.

This list is the current POE:

Justplayingitcool - Has been scummy since the start and done really nothing to warrant a clear besides lolcat. Clearing this guy for that behaviour is ridiculous.
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME - Meta read. Hasn't been mindmelding. Hasn't been talking to me much at all. Feels like someone who is struggling to find legitimate paths to take.
nutella - Meta read. Hasn't been mindmelding. Ignoring the fact I am scumreading her (generally when I scum read her as town she gets mad and either omgussing me or calls me out for being a dumbass).
tedxtr - Has felt off since the get go. I don't buy that he was playing scummy on purpose. If he was playing scummy on purpose why did he get upset for being scumread? Wouldn't that be the intention?

[MacDougall]

I wish Jack was here he would be tunneling nutella so hard.

[MacDougall]

[VOTE: Nutella] aubergine

Real wagons only.

[nutella]

Okay so explain how my ted read is misguided.

For posterity, Ted claimed he was playing scummy on purpose to justify why he was getting scumread and then went ahead and got tilted out of the game for being scumread despite playing scummy on purpose. Firstly, why would Ted choose to play scummy on purpose after finally randing town, and if he randed town and decided to play scummy on purpose why would he tilted out of the game for catching flak?

see I somewhat follow your logic there but I mindmelded with alison on the post he made about his wolfrange being locktown, and then he mindmelded with me so

[juliets]

juliets I know that your tone is like that regardless of your alignment but I just feel like you haven't really done the things I expect you to do as town yet. and I know you probably still haven't caught up/gotten your head really in the game yet so I'll wait for you to settle in and interact with people a bit more but I'm the opposite of inspired from your posts so far.

Ok thanks nutella, I appreciate the explanation. You are right I don't feel like I'm fully in the game yet because I have not been here all that long. I'm dead tired too from trying to concentrate so intensely. I'm going to go watch the rest of the Lightning game and get back to this early in the morning when I'm fresh.

[nutella]

Nutella how do you read Nanook?

town but for nanook that could mean deepwolf but town

[nutella]

Honestly choosing to go after Juliets here of all people feels like basically the most opportunistic scummy possible path you could take so I regret moving you out of my POE now. Also on top of that I think you realised how opportunistic it was and your wishy washy explanation following the naked vote shows guilty mind.

i'm the only person voting for her how is that opportunistic

[nutella]

don't even know what you're referring to with the wishy washy explanation


i've been calling her sketchy since she entered