Radiohead Mafia [GAME OVER]

[Justplayingitcool]

My wifi is also garbage

[Oddmerta]

C) you are mafia

[Dyslexicon]

He isn't town, doesn't matter who he "checks"

Do you often listen to the same song on repeat?

[Justplayingitcool]

Please decide soon as I'll be asleep when EoD comes along

[Dyslexicon]

He isn't town, doesn't matter who he "checks"

Do you often listen to the same song on repeat?

[Justplayingitcool]

He isn't town, doesn't matter who he "checks"

Do you often listen to the same song on repeat?

[dyachei]

i vote you look in the A category, jpic. our poe isn't very large

[Dyslexicon]

Nice distancing though. I'm sure nobody will suspect a thing.

[tutuu]

the poe is different from the suggested plan. he is suggested to check for deepwolves which is dumb to me

@Justplayingitcool can you peek someone scummy tonight

I will leave it up to a vote and the general consensus, as I am under strict orders...

Please confirm if I should look in either:

A) spf, tutuu or MR
B) drwilgy, long con or Nanook

if i were u i'd tell anyone who tried to tell me how to use my night action to fuck off but its fine if u wanna play games

but now i just remembered u peeked mac n1

so nvm maybe u should be told how to use your night action

whatever

[Justplayingitcool]

C) you are mafia

You have failed the exam

[Timsup2nothin]

the poe is different from the suggested plan. he is suggested to check for deepwolves which is dumb to me

@Justplayingitcool can you peek someone scummy tonight

I will leave it up to a vote and the general consensus, as I am under strict orders...

Please confirm if I should look in either:

A) spf, tutuu or MR
B) drwilgy, long con or Nanook

You ain't checking Nanook. From your POV Nanook should already be lock bad so no one would trust any result you got anyway.

[tutuu]

why is there 1 wolf in nanook and jpic btw

maybe my fault for not reading posts but

are u guise super super sure this is a thing

[dyachei]

[mention]tutuu[/mention] because we still know that mac got post limited. It wasn't because of spirit, so we look into the other 2 that visited

[dyachei]

I'm not super sure it's a thing but it seems likely

[tutuu]

right the post capper. we assume its a wolf action?

what if its a town negative utility action by nanook or jpic and they couldnt have claimed it due to restriction?

what if its fake report from sprityo?

eh whatever

[tutuu]

@tutuu because we still know that mac got post limited. It wasn't because of spirit, so we look into the other 2 that visited

mm

[Timsup2nothin]

why is there 1 wolf in nanook and jpic btw

maybe my fault for not reading posts but

are u guise super super sure this is a thing

There isn't necessarily one wolf, but there is someone who post capped Mac. That could be a wolf, but I am really hoping that it is the 3P because if the 3P wasn't there I don't know how we are gonna sort out who it is. In any event, I think the post capper is obviously bad.

I am willing to consider a ninja post capping 3P by the way. Not liking it, but [mention]MacDougall[/mention] maybe it is something we should think about?

[tedxtr]

Meh I was considering making a case but I don't think I'm buying too much into Wilgy being scum at the moment.

Sadly, there was a huge lap between when he was being friendly with nutella and when she went under suspicion and I don't know why he was so confident about nutella

he had a few posts that I don't really see mafia making when they plan to go with another progression. Wilgy's EoD1 seems like a typical twtbaw case but I'll ponder on that thought and figure what I wanna choose to believe.

For now I think it looks good enough but I'm missing puzzle pieces.

[Timsup2nothin]

Meh I was considering making a case but I don't think I'm buying too much into Wilgy being scum at the moment.

Sadly, there was a huge lap between when he was being friendly with nutella and when she went under suspicion and I don't know why he was so confident about nutella

he had a few posts that I don't really see mafia making when they plan to go with another progression. Wilgy's EoD1 seems like a typical twtbaw case but I'll ponder on that thought and figure what I wanna choose to believe.

For now I think it looks good enough but I'm missing puzzle pieces.

The curse of N2: casing the low posters there aren't enough pieces, casing the spammers there is a mountain of shit to wade through. I was really set for another no post night phase, so I could at least have the anticipated bloodbath narrow the field before I had to think.

[tedxtr]

Oh no - I am saying I don't think he is scum but I'd be more confident in the read if I had more puzzle pieces about why he was scum reading nutella.

I'll have it in the back of my mind with the caveat that I am not totally awake rn

[Hally]

i didn't realize we'd have the thread open and I was at work when i happened to reload my syndicate page

I'm still at work, basically skimmed the thread to get here

I might just be a sucker but I kind of like jpic rn

still think tim is towny

if you had a choice between confirming someone like jpic or looking at someone new, what would you do?

someone new probably

[Hally]

i didn't realize we'd have the thread open and I was at work when i happened to reload my syndicate page

I'm still at work, basically skimmed the thread to get here

I might just be a sucker but I kind of like jpic rn

still think tim is towny

if you had a choice between confirming someone like jpic or looking at someone new, what would you do?

someone new probably

[Hally]

What's going on in this game?

we yeeted two scum

[Hally]

oh hey dizzy how's it going?

Good, I think. I finished my other game. Still won't be able to catch up and stuff here. Consider myself on a break until champs, so I guess I have an actual slank meta now. You got two mafia. =p

Who's next, and is there anyone who needs "looking into"? I have absolutely no idea what's going on here other than Nutella and Sprit being yeeted.

here’s a list

lock town (shouldn’t be any in):
mac
hally
tutuu
alison
juliets
spf

near lock (very doubtful there’s any in):
odd
poison
radishes

town lean (maybe 1-2 here):
samu
ted
colin/tony
dya

upper poe (1-2 here):
tim
dizzy
lc
herm
wilgy

lower poe (always at least 1 here):
nanook
jpic

[Hally]

tbh i feel less good about radishes than i do odd and poison so idk if he should be there. maybe one lower

[Hally]

lock town (shouldn’t be any in):
mac
hally
tutuu
alison
juliets
spf
odd
poison

town lean (maybe 1-2 here):
radishes
samu
ted
colin/tony
dya

upper poe (1-2 here):
tim
dizzy
lc
herm
wilgy

lower poe (always at least 1 here):
nanook
jpic

this is probably better

[Timsup2nothin]

tbh i feel less good about radishes than i do odd and poison so idk if he should be there. maybe one lower

Radishes is an uncountered doc claim on a night with no kill though. I kinda have to put him pretty high.

[tedxtr]

The simple fact that we know there's a mafia rolecop and we have a cop with a check on Mac coming out just screams mafia to me.

Maybe it's bias but maybe it's just occam's razor.

Why would town jpic go to Mac when he was town reading him instead of choosing two of his nulls at his own will.

Like, come on. Seriously.

No matter how much he'd be trying to solve here ; nobody has yet to give an actual answer to this.

If you are a mafia rolecop and you are caught by a watcher, the easiest thing to do is claim alignment cop when you're mafia rolecop.

I'm willing to yeet a potential town cop when the "coincidences" are so glaring to fit my theory.

We have 2 mafia roles left, yeah? 1 of them is mafia role cop confirmed by Poison. We know the other is a post capper.

I really don't know why I have to be talking about this. It would be very lame if both nanook and jpic are wolves but it is very probable that's the case lol.

feel free to poke holes in my case because I do miss things and it's late.

[Herm]

Wait, can anyone please post the claims, all of it?

Hally - Watcher
Nanook - Some kind of Role that gets an extra Vote if he targets the NK
JPIC - Alignment Cop

Those are the claims I'm aware of.

[tedxtr]

ok the hole there would be that I assume there are 4 mafia.

[Hally]

@dyachei I guess I'm somewhat afraid confirming JPIC is a waste because if he doesn't die tonight he'll die tomorrow or the next night. So I think I would choose to confirm someone new.

what if it could stop him from being killed at all? or do you think there's no point atp

not worth imo

jpic should be self resolving atp

[tedxtr]

actually ratio wise it could be 5 I think so that case doesn't stand

[Herm]

tbh i feel less good about radishes than i do odd and poison so idk if he should be there. maybe one lower

Radishes is an uncountered doc claim on a night with no kill though. I kinda have to put him pretty high.

I completely missed this and I don't even know how...

Let's check that out.

[tedxtr]

[mention]Justplayingitcool[/mention] what did you find wolfy about Mac that caused you to change your mind and check him instead? Did he have a bad progression on nutella? If so, why? What posts gave you bad feelings?

[Alison]

hot take: people who aren't actively catching up should minimize their posts to like 4 or 5 a day at most so people who are can catch up easily

[Timsup2nothin]

The simple fact that we know there's a mafia rolecop and we have a cop with a check on Mac coming out just screams mafia to me.

Maybe it's bias but maybe it's just occam's razor.

Why would town jpic go to Mac when he was town reading him instead of choosing two of his nulls at his own will.

Like, come on. Seriously.

No matter how much he'd be trying to solve here ; nobody has yet to give an actual answer to this.

If you are a mafia rolecop and you are caught by a watcher, the easiest thing to do is claim alignment cop when you're mafia rolecop.

I'm willing to yeet a potential town cop when the "coincidences" are so glaring to fit my theory.

We have 2 mafia roles left, yeah? 1 of them is mafia role cop confirmed by Poison. We know the other is a post capper.

I really don't know why I have to be talking about this. It would be very lame if both nanook and jpic are wolves but it is very probable that's the case lol.

feel free to poke holes in my case because I do miss things and it's late.

First hole...the fact that we know there is a mafia role cop suggests that there may very well be a town alignment cop. Once you start putting in cops, why stop? Far more fun when they can get in a counterclaim fest. Which we have not seen.

Second hole...there is really no accounting for what a cop role might do. I like to believe I know what I would do, but even that doesn't tell me what someone else will do. The champs setup has run fourteen times plus some practice games and SCI...and no one yet really knows what "the right thing" to do as a JOAT is. I'm not saying I would have checked Mac here...but I know I'd have considered it.

Third hole...the easiest fake claim for a mafia role cop is actually tracker. You just role checked someone and as long as their role doesn't involve going anywhere you just say "tracker but he didn't move."

And yeah you miscounted the remaining wolves.

[Alison]

going to be a bit of a hypocrite here and respond to tim's post even though I said to minimize posting

tracker on mac is an even worse fake claim than alignment cop on mac. at least with the latter you can claim you were paranoid. absolutely no reason to track him

[Timsup2nothin]

hot take: people who aren't actively catching up should minimize their posts to like 4 or 5 a day at most so people who are can catch up easily

Counter...a fair number of people are not likely to survive SoD and should contribute as much as possible.

[Alison]

hot take: people who aren't actively catching up should minimize their posts to like 4 or 5 a day at most so people who are can catch up easily

Counter...a fair number of people are not likely to survive SoD and should contribute as much as possible.

fair enough

[Timsup2nothin]

going to be a bit of a hypocrite here and respond to tim's post even though I said to minimize posting

tracker on mac is an even worse fake claim than alignment cop on mac. at least with the latter you can claim you were paranoid. absolutely no reason to track him

Meh. Paranoia is a universal motive. Tracker is a better claim because it doesn't put you in the "okay if true you will be killed instantly by wolves so that buys you one day at best" range.

[Hally]

right the post capper. we assume its a wolf action?

what if its a town negative utility action by nanook or jpic and they couldnt have claimed it due to restriction?

what if its fake report from sprityo?

eh whatever

even if they couldn’t claim i think they would have alluded to it if either were town

and i don’t think it can be a fake report. that’s not what a report is really. report is like from an investigative i think. sprit was like a tailor basically as far as i can tell

[Hally]

tbh i feel less good about radishes than i do odd and poison so idk if he should be there. maybe one lower

Radishes is an uncountered doc claim on a night with no kill though. I kinda have to put him pretty high.

yea but there are other ways kills could be stopped. there’s too many unknowns for me to treat him as lock. he doesn’t have the thread presence for it. but i do doubt he’s scum. he’s just not like in the lock tier

[Master Radishes]

Or maybe MR is the rogue

I am the reigning champ of Best Indy Performance on the Syndicate.

[Master Radishes]

You guys can have this one for free: I believe Dizzy hates being 3P and one time I loosely watched a game where he openly claimed what he was then just sort of slanked till he met his wincon.

[Timsup2nothin]

right the post capper. we assume its a wolf action?

what if its a town negative utility action by nanook or jpic and they couldnt have claimed it due to restriction?

what if its fake report from sprityo?

eh whatever

even if they couldn’t claim i think they would have alluded to it if either were town

and i don’t think it can be a fake report. that’s not what a report is really. report is like from an investigative i think. sprit was like a tailor basically as far as i can tell

Interestingly, you provide the perfect example. I've considered "post cap could be a side effect of being watched" and I know you are claim restricted...but I also trust that you'd have said things like "let's not get so wound up in this post cap thing" or supported people saying that it could be just a side effect.

I don't think the wolves sent two people to Mac. I think they sent one and the 3P is the post capper and that the post cap is also a mark for later destruction.

[Hally]

You guys can have this one for free: I believe Dizzy hates being 3P and one time I loosely watched a game where he openly claimed what he was then just sort of slanked till he met his wincon.

yea dizzy will often just open-3p when he rands it

[Hally]

right the post capper. we assume its a wolf action?

what if its a town negative utility action by nanook or jpic and they couldnt have claimed it due to restriction?

what if its fake report from sprityo?

eh whatever

even if they couldn’t claim i think they would have alluded to it if either were town

and i don’t think it can be a fake report. that’s not what a report is really. report is like from an investigative i think. sprit was like a tailor basically as far as i can tell

Interestingly, you provide the perfect example. I've considered "post cap could be a side effect of being watched" and I know you are claim restricted...but I also trust that you'd have said things like "let's not get so wound up in this post cap thing" or supported people saying that it could be just a side effect.

I don't think the wolves sent two people to Mac. I think they sent one and the 3P is the post capper and that the post cap is also a mark for later destruction.

well i think we’ll find out about the post capper soon because it very likely can only be nook or jpic. if we find out its neither of them it means it was an undetectable ability. i don’t see the point of thinking too hard about it now

[Hally]

the idea that i both watched and post capped mac is pretty lol though

i’ve caught two wolves and am very likely dying immediately. so i wouldn’t worry tim

[Timsup2nothin]

tbh i feel less good about radishes than i do odd and poison so idk if he should be there. maybe one lower

Radishes is an uncountered doc claim on a night with no kill though. I kinda have to put him pretty high.

yea but there are other ways kills could be stopped. there’s too many unknowns for me to treat him as lock. he doesn’t have the thread presence for it. but i do doubt he’s scum. he’s just not like in the lock tier

True. The flip side is that no one has pushed him. If you were a doc (or jail keeper) who protected someone and might also have prevented the kill I know you wouldn't necessarily want to just out for a claim war, but wouldn't you at least be probing in Radishes direction here? Near as I can tell everyone just said, "oh, okay, so that's where the kill went, makes sense" and got on to other business.

[Hally]

like playing this way as 3p is just stupor because i’ve now ensured im a top priority for mafia to kill, which is the opposite of what i’d want as 3p