Radiohead Mafia [GAME OVER]

[MacDougall]

So Wilgy you are claiming tracker?

Weird tracker.

I get different results depending on conditions that happen during the day

If I voted on a scum that flips I get a proper track (to which I used n2 on JPIC)

If I don't I get to be a watcher of a random target. N1 Ted was targeted by 1 person.

If any townie targeted Ted, speak up now. I don't want you to tell me what you are or what you did to Ted, I just want you to corroborate Wilgy's claim.

Tim already claimed to target Ted.

[Herm]

3 dead scum.

1 town casuality in Hally.

We on a roll.

[MacDougall]

Ok Dya is also claiming a conditional track and targeted Ted. Interesting.

Can you just outright claim all the elements of your role the way Wilgy did?

[MacDougall]

I'm a little bit miffed that so many people can claim and it seems only Hally, SPF and myself can't.

[mention]staypositivefriend[/mention] what's your feeling on these claims?

[juliets]

[mention]MacDougall[/mention] if you don't have any more questions for me at the moment I'm going to bed. I'll stick around another 10-15 minutes if you do.

[dyachei]

I'm not claiming conditional

[MacDougall]

I am want to believe LC's claim because it's just such a meh fake claim.

[dyachei]

I just want Ted to confirm where he went and why before I out it

[MacDougall]

@MacDougall if you don't have any more questions for me at the moment I'm going to bed. I'll stick around another 10-15 minutes if you do.

No questions really but I don't necessarily think I believe you holster there. Towncore is solid as hell and there's no guarantee you live to lategame to use it anyway. Your claim is certainly one I am a little bit miffed with.

[tutuu]

So Wilgy you are claiming tracker?

Weird tracker.

I get different results depending on conditions that happen during the day

If I voted on a scum that flips I get a proper track (to which I used n2 on JPIC)

If I don't I get to be a watcher of a random target. N1 Ted was targeted by 1 person.

watcher also knows the names of the ppl that visited

so u dont know the name of the person who visited ted? just the amount of ppl?

[MacDougall]

I'm not claiming conditional

Ok

[DrWilgy]

So Wilgy you are claiming tracker?

Weird tracker.

I get different results depending on conditions that happen during the day

If I voted on a scum that flips I get a proper track (to which I used n2 on JPIC)

If I don't I get to be a watcher of a random target. N1 Ted was targeted by 1 person.

watcher also knows the names of the ppl that visited

so u dont know the name of the person who visited ted? just the amount of ppl?

Yeh. It was at random and provided by host.

[Timsup2nothin]

So Wilgy you are claiming tracker?

Weird tracker.

I get different results depending on conditions that happen during the day

If I voted on a scum that flips I get a proper track (to which I used n2 on JPIC)

If I don't I get to be a watcher of a random target. N1 Ted was targeted by 1 person.

This role is real. Wilgy is town.

How you figure?

[MacDougall]

Alison is clearly town. She is going to self resolve easily.
So we take her clears on TSP and Nook as they are.
So TSP is a real doctor/vig and didn't manage to save Hally.
I have thoughts I am not allowed to share about this. Sloonei giving me a role that I can't infoclaim or roleclaim with and letting everyone else do it is mean.

[juliets]

@MacDougall if you don't have any more questions for me at the moment I'm going to bed. I'll stick around another 10-15 minutes if you do.

No questions really but I don't necessarily think I believe you holster there. Towncore is solid as hell and there's no guarantee you live to lategame to use it anyway. Your claim is certainly one I am a little bit miffed with.

Ok, I guess in your view it was the wrong decision.

[Alison]

So Wilgy you are claiming tracker?

Weird tracker.

I get different results depending on conditions that happen during the day

If I voted on a scum that flips I get a proper track (to which I used n2 on JPIC)

If I don't I get to be a watcher of a random target. N1 Ted was targeted by 1 person.

This role is real. Wilgy is town.

read or mech?

It's the most viable claim I've seen tbh. It could be that the mafia have a rolecop though and they know how to make good fake claims now.

I'm still not sure I buy it but mafia have struggled with coming up with decent role claims thus far (nutella kept changing her claim, sprityo just straight up refused to claim, JPIC came up with a totally nonsensical claim). So unless some role claiming wizard took over in the scum chat, having a believable looking role claim is to some extent a towntell. (It also clears some people from being scum because they'd have prepared better claims for their buddies, like nanook or you or even me, but all three of us are already clear unfortunately so we don't get any extra info.)

The counterargument to this is that even if Wilgy has a believable looking role claim, he still had bad interactions with nut and his claim of seeing JPIC hit tutuu doesn't add up since tutuu wasn't postcapped and the one role that could block something like that (juliets) holstered. it's also a bit too much power for town for me to buy tbh, since I think his role is actually quite strong.

another thing worth asking is why the hell jpic went out tonight. I find it hard to believe that JPIC witnessed the entire scum team being completely party wiped by Hally due to overusing their visits on you, and then went to himself "hm, I have a great idea! I'll visit another member of the towncore tonight who also made a billion psots so the ability doesn't even restrict them that hard!"

(of course, a lot of the stuff JPIC has done this game is not understandable to me so maybe that's just him being a bit unpredictable as usual)

[MacDougall]

So Wilgy you are claiming tracker?

Weird tracker.

I get different results depending on conditions that happen during the day

If I voted on a scum that flips I get a proper track (to which I used n2 on JPIC)

If I don't I get to be a watcher of a random target. N1 Ted was targeted by 1 person.

This role is real. Wilgy is town.

How you figure?

I got ahead of myself because it could just be a well educated fake claim.

[tutuu]

so u tracked jpic last night to me?

but im not post capped

so wut now. i guess someone roleblocked jpic and isnt spilling the beans?

i guess jpic wanted to just visit me for the sake of visiting me and claim a red peek on me lmfao

[tutuu]

another thing worth asking is why the hell jpic went out tonight.

i guess jpic wanted to just visit me for the sake of visiting me and claim a red peek on me lmfao

[staypositivefriend]

I'm a little bit miffed that so many people can claim and it seems only Hally, SPF and myself can't.

@staypositivefriend what's your feeling on these claims?

alison is real

nook/tsp are real by proxy

dya is real (the way they're approaching the claim is just really genuine imo)

juliets is real on a surface level, but i get your grievance about her choosing to holster. i'm still inclined to believe her but i'd like to hear her explain her thought process more clearly

my first thought is that long con's ability felt more like a mafia ability than a town ability, tbh. i do not townread him even if i believe that the claim is probably real

drwigly's claim is specific but i do not townread him for that alone. it's not beyond the mafs ability to make up a believable fakeclaim

and mostly, i have no idea why the hell i'm not allowed to claim when these other roles are, lmao

[DrWilgy]

so u tracked jpic last night to me?

but im not post capped

so wut now. i guess someone roleblocked jpic and isnt spilling the beans?

i guess jpic wanted to just visit me for the sake of visiting me and claim a red peek on me lmfao

Likely.

[Alison]

so u tracked jpic last night to me?

but im not post capped

so wut now. i guess someone roleblocked jpic and isnt spilling the beans?

i guess jpic wanted to just visit me for the sake of visiting me and claim a red peek on me lmfao

if he was roleblocked he wouldn't be seen visiting you.

Mac, TSP might well have a second doctor shot. In that case juliets having more shots to stop his doctor from being roleblocked is a good thing. So if juliets is 2 shot, her holstering last night might come in clutch tonight, because it lets her guarantee the TSP heal goes through on me, which in turn gives us an extra cop.

[MacDougall]

So Wilgy you are claiming tracker?

Weird tracker.

I get different results depending on conditions that happen during the day

If I voted on a scum that flips I get a proper track (to which I used n2 on JPIC)

If I don't I get to be a watcher of a random target. N1 Ted was targeted by 1 person.

This role is real. Wilgy is town.

read or mech?

It's the most viable claim I've seen tbh. It could be that the mafia have a rolecop though and they know how to make good fake claims now.

I'm still not sure I buy it but mafia have struggled with coming up with decent role claims thus far (nutella kept changing her claim, sprityo just straight up refused to claim, JPIC came up with a totally nonsensical claim). So unless some role claiming wizard took over in the scum chat, having a believable looking role claim is to some extent a towntell. (It also clears some people from being scum because they'd have prepared better claims for their buddies, like nanook or you or even me, but all three of us are already clear unfortunately so we don't get any extra info.)

The counterargument to this is that even if Wilgy has a believable looking role claim, he still had bad interactions with nut and his claim of seeing JPIC hit tutuu doesn't add up since tutuu wasn't postcapped and the one role that could block something like that (juliets) holstered. it's also a bit too much power for town for me to buy tbh, since I think his role is actually quite strong.

another thing worth asking is why the hell jpic went out tonight. I find it hard to believe that JPIC witnessed the entire scum team being completely party wiped by Hally due to overusing their visits on you, and then went to himself "hm, I have a great idea! I'll visit another member of the towncore tonight who also made a billion psots so the ability doesn't even restrict them that hard!"

(of course, a lot of the stuff JPIC has done this game is not understandable to me so maybe that's just him being a bit unpredictable as usual)

Wilgy is a role claiming wizard. But citation needed on his bad interactions with Nutella. I had him cleared off those interactions.

[Timsup2nothin]

So Wilgy you are claiming tracker?

Weird tracker.

I get different results depending on conditions that happen during the day

If I voted on a scum that flips I get a proper track (to which I used n2 on JPIC)

If I don't I get to be a watcher of a random target. N1 Ted was targeted by 1 person.

This role is real. Wilgy is town.

read or mech?

It's the most viable claim I've seen tbh. It could be that the mafia have a rolecop though and they know how to make good fake claims now.

I'm still not sure I buy it but mafia have struggled with coming up with decent role claims thus far (nutella kept changing her claim, sprityo just straight up refused to claim, JPIC came up with a totally nonsensical claim). So unless some role claiming wizard took over in the scum chat, having a believable looking role claim is to some extent a towntell. (It also clears some people from being scum because they'd have prepared better claims for their buddies, like nanook or you or even me, but all three of us are already clear unfortunately so we don't get any extra info.)

The counterargument to this is that even if Wilgy has a believable looking role claim, he still had bad interactions with nut and his claim of seeing JPIC hit tutuu doesn't add up since tutuu wasn't postcapped and the one role that could block something like that (juliets) holstered. it's also a bit too much power for town for me to buy tbh, since I think his role is actually quite strong.

another thing worth asking is why the hell jpic went out tonight. I find it hard to believe that JPIC witnessed the entire scum team being completely party wiped by Hally due to overusing their visits on you, and then went to himself "hm, I have a great idea! I'll visit another member of the towncore tonight who also made a billion psots so the ability doesn't even restrict them that hard!"

(of course, a lot of the stuff JPIC has done this game is not understandable to me so maybe that's just him being a bit unpredictable as usual)

I would lay money that JPIC went out...but he went to Hally's house.

[DrWilgy]

So Wilgy you are claiming tracker?

Weird tracker.

I get different results depending on conditions that happen during the day

If I voted on a scum that flips I get a proper track (to which I used n2 on JPIC)

If I don't I get to be a watcher of a random target. N1 Ted was targeted by 1 person.

This role is real. Wilgy is town.

How you figure?

I got ahead of myself because it could just be a well educated fake claim.

Lol Dad thinks I'm too small brain to make that up (he's right.)

[tutuu]

so u tracked jpic last night to me?

but im not post capped

so wut now. i guess someone roleblocked jpic and isnt spilling the beans?

i guess jpic wanted to just visit me for the sake of visiting me and claim a red peek on me lmfao

if he was roleblocked he wouldn't be seen visiting you.

Mac, TSP might well have a second doctor shot. In that case juliets having more shots to stop his doctor from being roleblocked is a good thing. So if juliets is 2 shot, her holstering last night might come in clutch tonight, because it lets her guarantee the TSP heal goes through on me, which in turn gives us an extra cop.

ooh right i forgot

also hmmm

let me think

[MacDougall]

I'm a little bit miffed that so many people can claim and it seems only Hally, SPF and myself can't.

@staypositivefriend what's your feeling on these claims?

alison is real

nook/tsp are real by proxy

dya is real (the way they're approaching the claim is just really genuine imo)

juliets is real on a surface level, but i get your grievance about her choosing to holster. i'm still inclined to believe her but i'd like to hear her explain her thought process more clearly

my first thought is that long con's ability felt more like a mafia ability than a town ability, tbh. i do not townread him even if i believe that the claim is probably real

drwigly's claim is specific but i do not townread him for that alone. it's not beyond the mafs ability to make up a believable fakeclaim

and mostly, i have no idea why the hell i'm not allowed to claim when these other roles are, lmao

last sentence is a fucking mood

how do you feel about the notion that TSP doctored Hally but it apparently didn't stop the kill?

[Alison]

so why the hell was he tracked to tutuu then?

meh I don't understand why wilgy fakes that track as scum though. like what the fuck. if he was fakeclaiming a track on jpic he just goes "jpic went to hally, he probably carried the kill since we know his other role is useless".

[MacDougall]

I think JPIC definitely targeted Tutuu.

Perhaps the reality is that he intended to red check her and the mafia roleblocker also targeted him so she wouldn't get post capped to make his claim more believable?

Ergo Wilgy is probably the mafia roleblocker?

[Timsup2nothin]

so u tracked jpic last night to me?

but im not post capped

so wut now. i guess someone roleblocked jpic and isnt spilling the beans?

i guess jpic wanted to just visit me for the sake of visiting me and claim a red peek on me lmfao

Likely.

As Mac would say, bullsuit. There was nothing in JPICs role that said "If you holster you get to just wander around." He either went out to postcap...apparently not, or he went out to kill which would mean he went to Hally's. Your track is off track doctor.

[MacDougall]

Good morning and good night! Another scum down. Also, gg Hally.

Now,

Radishes is lying. @Master Radishes can you please claim your song name?

Lying about what?

[Alison]

I think JPIC definitely targeted Tutuu.

Perhaps the reality is that he intended to red check her and the mafia roleblocker also targeted him so she wouldn't get post capped to make his claim more believable?

Ergo Wilgy is probably the mafia roleblocker?

so wilgy roleblocks his own teammate from post capping tutuu...?

I don't undestand. why not just holster

[staypositivefriend]

I'm a little bit miffed that so many people can claim and it seems only Hally, SPF and myself can't.

@staypositivefriend what's your feeling on these claims?

alison is real

nook/tsp are real by proxy

dya is real (the way they're approaching the claim is just really genuine imo)

juliets is real on a surface level, but i get your grievance about her choosing to holster. i'm still inclined to believe her but i'd like to hear her explain her thought process more clearly

my first thought is that long con's ability felt more like a mafia ability than a town ability, tbh. i do not townread him even if i believe that the claim is probably real

drwigly's claim is specific but i do not townread him for that alone. it's not beyond the mafs ability to make up a believable fakeclaim

and mostly, i have no idea why the hell i'm not allowed to claim when these other roles are, lmao

last sentence is a fucking mood

how do you feel about the notion that TSP doctored Hally but it apparently didn't stop the kill?

it puzzles me because the claim implies that the mafia has a roleblocker ability of some sort - and i can't see why they would go out of their way to target TSP of all people. it's possible that the role is inverse and blocks a specific targeted from being protected, though. it doesn't give me much useful information, tbh

[MacDougall]

SUMMONING RADISHES AND ODDMERTA TO THE FUCKEN THREAD

[Alison]

Wilgy is a role claiming wizard. But citation needed on his bad interactions with Nutella. I had him cleared off those interactions.

i distinctly remember running interaction analysis and wilgy was one of the people who looked awful of it, which is why I downgraded him to POE

[MacDougall]

I think JPIC definitely targeted Tutuu.

Perhaps the reality is that he intended to red check her and the mafia roleblocker also targeted him so she wouldn't get post capped to make his claim more believable?

Ergo Wilgy is probably the mafia roleblocker?

so wilgy roleblocks his own teammate from post capping tutuu...?

I don't undestand. why not just holster

In case he's being tracked or tutuu is being watched he needs to be seen targeting her?

I guess a roleblock would just stop that completely.

[Alison]

also what was LC's claim?

and we should probably stop claiming needlessly after this, since soup kill rogue kill blah blah

[Alison]

I think JPIC definitely targeted Tutuu.

Perhaps the reality is that he intended to red check her and the mafia roleblocker also targeted him so she wouldn't get post capped to make his claim more believable?

Ergo Wilgy is probably the mafia roleblocker?

so wilgy roleblocks his own teammate from post capping tutuu...?

I don't undestand. why not just holster

In case he's being tracked or tutuu is being watched he needs to be seen targeting her?

I guess a roleblock would just stop that completely.

yeah a roleblock stops you from going out.

[Sloonei]

I have received another question. Answer:
Roleblocks resolve before all other actions.

[staypositivefriend]

I think JPIC definitely targeted Tutuu.

Perhaps the reality is that he intended to red check her and the mafia roleblocker also targeted him so she wouldn't get post capped to make his claim more believable?

Ergo Wilgy is probably the mafia roleblocker?

is it possible for mafia to target their partners with abilities, though? i know different sites have different rules

[MacDougall]

Wilgy is a role claiming wizard. But citation needed on his bad interactions with Nutella. I had him cleared off those interactions.

i distinctly remember running interaction analysis and wilgy was one of the people who looked awful of it, which is why I downgraded him to POE

Well I had the exact opposite response to interaction analysis. Wilgy is a teammate that will jump on grenades for teammates, especially someone like nutella. He prefers not to bus/distance at all.

[MacDougall]

I think JPIC definitely targeted Tutuu.

Perhaps the reality is that he intended to red check her and the mafia roleblocker also targeted him so she wouldn't get post capped to make his claim more believable?

Ergo Wilgy is probably the mafia roleblocker?

is it possible for mafia to target their partners with abilities, though? i know different sites have different rules

It'll be allowed here.

[Long Con]

my first thought is that long con's ability felt more like a mafia ability than a town ability, tbh. i do not townread him even if i believe that the claim is probably real

It's real, I'll prove it if you like. It's pretty harmless. I see how it could be a mafia ability, but do you really expect yet another member of the mafia to be so sucktastic? tutuu would have a field day.

[MacDougall]

also what was LC's claim?

and we should probably stop claiming needlessly after this, since soup kill rogue kill blah blah

I doubt the soup kill would be relative to role claiming. If it exists it'd be relative to song claiming. These roles aren't written to have names.

[Alison]

Wilgy is a role claiming wizard. But citation needed on his bad interactions with Nutella. I had him cleared off those interactions.

i distinctly remember running interaction analysis and wilgy was one of the people who looked awful of it, which is why I downgraded him to POE

Well I had the exact opposite response to interaction analysis. Wilgy is a teammate that will jump on grenades for teammates, especially someone like nutella. He prefers not to bus/distance at all.

okay but he hasn't actually done anything except oppose people who have all been cleared town and follow sprityo's pushes. and there are all kinds of question marks surrounding his claim

[MacDougall]

Notwithstanding if everyone claims and the rogue kills everyone who claims then it'll leave the fake claims outed lol.

[Alison]

what is LC's claim? I missed it

[Long Con]

also what was LC's claim?

and we should probably stop claiming needlessly after this, since soup kill rogue kill blah blah

I can make a player unable to vote me the following day, and I can't vote them either.

Three times.

[Long Con]

also what was LC's claim?

and we should probably stop claiming needlessly after this, since soup kill rogue kill blah blah

I doubt the soup kill would be relative to role claiming. If it exists it'd be relative to song claiming. These roles aren't written to have names.

Didn't it already kind of exist and we killed it?

[Herm]

Everyone's claiming all of a sudden lol.