Radiohead Mafia [GAME OVER]

[Timsup2nothin]

also what was LC's claim?

and we should probably stop claiming needlessly after this, since soup kill rogue kill blah blah

I'm thinking that Nutella gave us some info from the secret part of her role...twisted certainly, but sprinkled in to sound authentic...and her secrets are gonna relate to the 3P in similarities. In short, I think the 3P is collecting song titles, probably not roles per se. I do think caution is good, but I think EXTREME caution needs to be applied to song titles (I know, ironic).

[Alison]

wilgy > lc > dizzy and we hit at least 1 wolf, i guarantee it

[MacDougall]

Yeah so claim Herm.

[Alison]

do we have anything that clears tim?

[Long Con]

wilgy > lc > dizzy and we hit at least 1 wolf, i guarantee it

Damn, I hope you're right about Wilgy then. Why so narrow?

[MacDougall]

wilgy > lc > dizzy and we hit at least 1 wolf, i guarantee it

Mmm I think you're leaving out the most likely hits tbh and I think there is a chance that this is all town.

Radishes, Herm to me are most likely to be the last two.

[staypositivefriend]

wilgy > lc > dizzy and we hit at least 1 wolf, i guarantee it

100%, and probably more than one

[Alison]

why is herm claiming? they haven't done anything wrong

[juliets]

I'm a little bit miffed that so many people can claim and it seems only Hally, SPF and myself can't.

@staypositivefriend what's your feeling on these claims?

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juliets is real on a surface level, but i get your grievance about her choosing to holster. i'm still inclined to believe her but i'd like to hear her explain her thought process more clearly

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I will try my best to walk through my thinking tomorrow when I'm more awake.

[MacDougall]

do we have anything that clears tim?

He pushed Sprityo in front of JPIC even though Sprityo had the better role. His day 2 was great. He's probably just not mafia for the Sprityo business.

[Long Con]

why is herm claiming? they haven't done anything wrong

I didn't do anything wrong... I claimed because Mac asked.

[MacDougall]

why is herm claiming? they haven't done anything wrong

Herm is in my original POE and everyone that isn't banned from claiming is claiming now.

[Herm]

Good morning and good night! Another scum down. Also, gg Hally.

Now,

Radishes is lying. @Master Radishes can you please claim your song name?

Radishes was the Deep Wolf all along!

[Alison]

wilgy > lc > dizzy and we hit at least 1 wolf, i guarantee it

Mmm I think you're leaving out the most likely hits tbh and I think there is a chance that this is all town.

Radishes, Herm to me are most likely to be the last two.

I disagree with this so let's talk about it.

I know you townread Wilgy off the nutella interactions. Okay. What do LC and Dizzy have in their credit?

I know why you scumread Herm. But what about Radishes? Do you think he faked a backup there? And if so, where did the mafia N1 kill vanish to, if he wasn't the one who stopped it?

[Herm]

why is herm claiming? they haven't done anything wrong

Herm is in my original POE and everyone that isn't banned from claiming is claiming now.

Mass claiming on D3 isn't necessary, right?

[Timsup2nothin]

do we have anything that clears tim?

He pushed Sprityo in front of JPIC even though Sprityo had the better role. His day 2 was great. He's probably just not mafia for the Sprityo business.

Thanks. And here I was thinking no, not really.

[Alison]

do we have anything that clears tim?

He pushed Sprityo in front of JPIC even though Sprityo had the better role. His day 2 was great. He's probably just not mafia for the Sprityo business.

hm

yeah, I think that is correct, if I was wolf tim I would angle for a JPIC exe (very very easy to pull off after the horrendous cop claim), and then try to get sprityo to mess up one last investigative before he died.

[Alison]

why is herm claiming? they haven't done anything wrong

Herm is in my original POE and everyone that isn't banned from claiming is claiming now.

Mass claiming on D3 isn't necessary, right?

we have a lot of confusion surrounding night actions and it's best if we clear that confusion up as neatly as possible

[staypositivefriend]

radishes hasn't particularly stood out to me this game, tbh. he had a few decent interactions with nutella and that was it. the only reason i'm assuming he might be scum is because mac/poison have both implied that he could be mechanically confirmed

herm has really bad interactions with all of the flipped mafia and it's really hard for me to overlook that

i would say with a fair amount of confidence that the pool of wigly/lc/dizzy is not all town. in fact, those 5 names (wigly/lc/dizzy/herm/radishes) probably have the last scum, but i'm still skeptical about tim

[MacDougall]

why is herm claiming? they haven't done anything wrong

Herm is in my original POE and everyone that isn't banned from claiming is claiming now.

Mass claiming on D3 isn't necessary, right?

It is for you because you and Radishes are my top two scumreads.

[Herm]

For the record. I am not aware of any claim restrictions.

[Alison]

unanswered questions:

where did TSP's heal vanish to?
where did JPIC's postcap vanish to?
what does being put in a lift do?

[Alison]

radishes hasn't particularly stood out to me this game, tbh. he had a few decent interactions with nutella and that was it. the only reason i'm assuming he might be scum is because mac/poison have both implied that he could be mechanically confirmed

herm has really bad interactions with all of the flipped mafia and it's really hard for me to overlook that

i would say with a fair amount of confidence that the pool of wigly/lc/dizzy is not all town. in fact, those 5 names (wigly/lc/dizzy/herm/radishes) probably have the last scum, but i'm still skeptical about tim

radishes claimed to heal me n1 and nobody died. there has been no counterclaim. he's had good enough tone and presence d1 to attract strong townreads from a number of players. those are all good reasons to townread radishes.

[Alison]

also you're forgetting about samu, who has more scum equity than either radishes or herm imo

[Herm]

why is herm claiming? they haven't done anything wrong

Herm is in my original POE and everyone that isn't banned from claiming is claiming now.

Mass claiming on D3 isn't necessary, right?

It is for you because you and Radishes are my top two scumreads.

[VOTE: Master Radishes] aubergine

[MacDougall]

radishes hasn't particularly stood out to me this game, tbh. he had a few decent interactions with nutella and that was it. the only reason i'm assuming he might be scum is because mac/poison have both implied that he could be mechanically confirmed

herm has really bad interactions with all of the flipped mafia and it's really hard for me to overlook that

i would say with a fair amount of confidence that the pool of wigly/lc/dizzy is not all town. in fact, those 5 names (wigly/lc/dizzy/herm/radishes) probably have the last scum, but i'm still skeptical about tim

Radishes and Herm were two of the very few people that I didn't initially clear off my Nutella interaction reads. Herm was bold red and Radishes was just in the list. Sprityo and JPIC were also in that list. It's a good list. Nook is in the list and has been green checked. Poison Chan is in the list and is now seemingly creating a difference check between herself and Radishes. So it's likely THREE mafia in that list.

[staypositivefriend]

also you're forgetting about samu, who has more scum equity than either radishes or herm imo

i've maintained that samu had a really pure/towny tone throughout d1 but i haven't done a deep dive into his interactions. do they reflect badly on him?

[MacDougall]

also you're forgetting about samu, who has more scum equity than either radishes or herm imo

I was forgetting him but I also don't agree that he has more than those two.

[MacDougall]

But squarely POE at this point yes.

[MacDougall]

radishes hasn't particularly stood out to me this game, tbh. he had a few decent interactions with nutella and that was it. the only reason i'm assuming he might be scum is because mac/poison have both implied that he could be mechanically confirmed

herm has really bad interactions with all of the flipped mafia and it's really hard for me to overlook that

i would say with a fair amount of confidence that the pool of wigly/lc/dizzy is not all town. in fact, those 5 names (wigly/lc/dizzy/herm/radishes) probably have the last scum, but i'm still skeptical about tim

radishes claimed to heal me n1 and nobody died. there has been no counterclaim. he's had good enough tone and presence d1 to attract strong townreads from a number of players. those are all good reasons to townread radishes.

Juliets did in fact just claim to doctor you n1 Alison.

[Alison]

also you're forgetting about samu, who has more scum equity than either radishes or herm imo

i've maintained that samu had a really pure/towny tone throughout d1 but i haven't done a deep dive into his interactions. do they reflect badly on him?

samu hasn't murdered 3 wolves and/or been checked green, which means he's automatically scummy enough to be in the POE in this threadstate.

[Alison]

radishes hasn't particularly stood out to me this game, tbh. he had a few decent interactions with nutella and that was it. the only reason i'm assuming he might be scum is because mac/poison have both implied that he could be mechanically confirmed

herm has really bad interactions with all of the flipped mafia and it's really hard for me to overlook that

i would say with a fair amount of confidence that the pool of wigly/lc/dizzy is not all town. in fact, those 5 names (wigly/lc/dizzy/herm/radishes) probably have the last scum, but i'm still skeptical about tim

radishes claimed to heal me n1 and nobody died. there has been no counterclaim. he's had good enough tone and presence d1 to attract strong townreads from a number of players. those are all good reasons to townread radishes.

Juliets did in fact just claim to doctor you n1 Alison.

mac, juliets' role is not a doctor. it does not protect against kills. it protects against every negative effect except kills. it stops roleblocks, redirects, night action falsifications, postcaps. it doesn't stop kills.

[Alison]

specifically it stops non-civillian, non-lethal effects

[Timsup2nothin]

radishes hasn't particularly stood out to me this game, tbh. he had a few decent interactions with nutella and that was it. the only reason i'm assuming he might be scum is because mac/poison have both implied that he could be mechanically confirmed

herm has really bad interactions with all of the flipped mafia and it's really hard for me to overlook that

i would say with a fair amount of confidence that the pool of wigly/lc/dizzy is not all town. in fact, those 5 names (wigly/lc/dizzy/herm/radishes) probably have the last scum, but i'm still skeptical about tim

radishes claimed to heal me n1 and nobody died. there has been no counterclaim. he's had good enough tone and presence d1 to attract strong townreads from a number of players. those are all good reasons to townread radishes.

Juliets did in fact just claim to doctor you n1 Alison.

She claimed non-lethal protect...like specifically cannot stop a kill.

[Herm]

Radishes is skilled enough that he can defend himself properly if he's innocent.

Samu kinda fell off a cliff, didn't he? I haven't seen him post as much as I thought he would.

[dyachei]

Ted isn't outside my poe yet

[Herm]

TonyStark is the Doctor and Juliets is some kind of Healer.

I do buy Juliet's role since it does make sense in this setup.

[tutuu]

im gonna claim cuz i think it can provide merit

im the jailkeeper-esque role that stucks ppl in lifts

n1 i targeted alison
n2 i targeted hally

hally being dead and being double protected leads me to believe mafia had a strongman kill and my guess is that its as a compensation for town doing silly stuff that they shouldnt have been doing

i am distrustful of juliet's claim since its so ridiculously similar to mine

i can protect from all negative actions. non-lethal and lethal aswell. the person i protect will have their night report delayed until the end of the next day

i am X-shot

im claiming because i think we can form a sweet plan. with jpic dead and night chat always staying open, my delayed night reports are irrelevant. the person i protect can just claim during night, their report wont get lost.

so what im thinking of is:

juliets protects me

i protect alison

this guarantees nobody touches alison with anything bad, be it lethal or non-lethal, and also prevents mafia/rogue from roleblocking me and messing with my protection of alison (since rolebocks are resolved first)

the only way they can break this chain is if they have 2 roleblocks, or more strongman shots, or if juliets is scum, but in that case doesnt she get outed if our plan fails?

im also claiming cuz i hope it can clear me from being 3p?

what kind of 3p role is a jailkeeper?

alternatively we can have juliets holsters and i can be the only one protecting alison, if we wanna risk getting screwed by a roleblock, but save up our shots

[Alison]

Ted is also within my POE. I haven't forgotten what I said last night about ted playing exactly the way he's supposed to play if he's scum here. The only thing he has to his credit is that he had a buddy-buddy interaction with nutella. I'm going to give them the credit to say they could have faked that to try to attract a townread on ted in case of a flip. I scumread him D1 and he hasn't done anything to prove otherwise.

[MacDougall]

I'd like to point out that neither of the flipped mafia were voting on Nutella d1 and both were on Tim. In case you weren't convinced Tim isn't mafia.

[Alison]

Wait that means Radishes can no longer prove he healed me last night. tutuu protected me from the kill N1.

[MacDougall]

Sorry I am misreading it entirely ignore me lol. I am confusing both polls.

[dyachei]

About what I expected tutuu

[Alison]

Also I think TSP has some doctor shots left so between him and tutuu we should do fineish. I don't mind getting put in a lift since with JPIC dead night chat is open which means I can always get my result the start of the next night and out it then.

[dyachei]

[VOTE: ted] aubergine

[Herm]

why is herm claiming? they haven't done anything wrong

Herm is in my original POE and everyone that isn't banned from claiming is claiming now.

Mass claiming on D3 isn't necessary, right?

we have a lot of confusion surrounding night actions and it's best if we clear that confusion up as neatly as possible

Alright, I'm fine with claiming then.

[Alison]

I'm skeptical that town has this much power. IME when this happens it's because a power role we thought was town is actually mafia. (Cite: Philosopher's Mafia) I currently have Wilgy as the most likely to fill that role, since everyone else seems clear for multiple reasons.

[Timsup2nothin]

Wait that means Radishes can no longer prove he healed me last night. tutuu protected me from the kill N1.

And if Radishes is a wolf he knows who to claim he protected. Worst that happens is the real doc outs and he has to play "role madness so of course there's a doc and no surprise we picked the same target."

[Alison]

What is your claim Herm? Do not include the song title, only the claim.

[tutuu]

I'm skeptical that town has this much power. IME when this happens it's because a power role we thought was town is actually mafia. (Cite: Philosopher's Mafia) I currently have Wilgy as the most likely to fill that role, since everyone else seems clear for multiple reasons.

do u think juliets can be town with almost the exact same role as me?