Radiohead Mafia [GAME OVER]

[MacDougall]

Us yeeting 3 wolves doesn't give us any sort of advantage in mechanics. We don't have the advantage here, we have 2 missing roles, we don't know what the 3p's abilities are and you are telling mafia which kills are the safest to make.

Proxying night actions is just bad.

And yet we have someone tracked to the kill. The claimed cop lived. Both doctor claims lived.

Tracking to the kill is not the same as catching the killer but whatever

Herm hasn't even flipped.

[MacDougall]

Tedxtr put the bong down.

[tedxtr]

Also, I don’t need to read a game to realise that organizing night actions in a closed setup with 3 unknown roles + 1 unknown mafia role + 1 unknown 3p is bad.

[tedxtr]

But I’m not under scrutiny until we flip all wolves so later

Going back to my bong

[Dyslexicon]

My track is on Wilgy. @ me if it should change.

[juliets]

[mention]Samusamu[/mention] I don't know if you can answer this but you say you saw two songs on tutuu, one being mafia. Does that mean you saw two different people targeting her or one song is someone visiting her and the other song is tutuu?

[Samusamu]

@Samusamu I don't know if you can answer this but you say you saw two songs on tutuu, one being mafia. Does that mean you saw two different people targeting her or one song is someone visiting her and the other song is tutuu?

You are getting the point!

[Samusamu]

Try again you are close!

[Samusamu]

Let's see, I can say it this way but it's so brazen that even I used to get modkill.

How common is it that Slooney prepares camouflages for the role of the Mafia or the 3p?

The important thing as I said is how I was notified today of the two songs.

[juliets]

Let's see, I can say it this way but it's so brazen that even I used to get modkill.

How common is it that Slooney prepares camouflages for the role of the Mafia or the 3p?

The important thing as I said is how I was notified today of the two songs.

I can't remember whether Sloonei normally gives his mafias camouflage roles. Maybe I should look back at that. I am mystified by the clue that the important thing is how you were notified today of the two songs. I'll go back into your ISO and see if I can put together some clues. Thanks for answer Samu!

[Herm]

Samu, what are your reads?

[Samusamu]

Samu, what are your reads?

Iso me, but i'm poelynching more than scumhunting.

I think i just said it to you.

[Herm]

I'm having a hard time figuring who is most likely to have blocked Tutuu last night.

We obviously have to rule out Alison and LC, Nanook & TonyStark.

Which leaves:

Dyachei, Wilgy, SPF, MacDougall, Odd, Ted, Dizzie, Jules, Poison.

[Herm]

Samu, what are your reads?

Iso me, but i'm poelynching more than scumhunting.

I think i just said it to you.

Yeah, I read it I think. I was wondering if you had any vibes based on the updated claims + actions from Jules's updated Master List.

[Herm]

REVISED LIST FROM POST #7660 and #7670

This was Alison's list that I updated for N3. I think I have everyone. Please let me know if you see any errors. Red is for dead.
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Alison - Cop (N1 TSP green, N2 nanook green, N3 LC green) Green does not mean they aren't 3P

TSP - X Shot Doctor, 1-Shot Vig (N2 shot JPIC, N3 holster)

Wilgy - Conditional Tracker/Random "Watcher" (N1 one person visited ted, N2 JPIC visited tutuu, N3 - TSP visited by info role)

dyachei - Tracker (N1 nanook visited Mac, N2 ted visited nanook, N3 Herm visited MR)

Dizzy - X Shot Conditional Tracker (N1 ted visited Tim, N2 didn't meet the conditions, N3 Samu visited tutuu)

juliets - X Shot Non-Civillian, Non-Lethal Rolestopper (N1 Alison, N2 holster, N3 MR)

Herm - "Song Cop" (N1 Amnesiac no result, N2 Kid A no result, N3 King of Limbs) [Knows mafia role cop is In Rainbows because of Poison]

Long Con - 3 Shot Mutual Voteblocker, N3 targeted Radishes

MacDougal - ??? (Roleclaiming not allowed, but role "isn't strong")

Master Radishes - Universal Backup (N1 protected Alison with nutella's power, N2 checked nanook for vote manipulation with sprityo's power, N3 died)

nanook - Conditional Doublevoter (N1 visited Mac to fulfil his condition, N2 forgot to send in an action, N3 targeted Alison)

Oddmerta - ??? (Roleclaiming not allowed, but isn't a vigilante)

Poison Chan - Rolecard Investigative (not sure of the specifics, but gets given a role card with alignment and song that exists in the game every night, but isn't told who the role card belongs to)(N1 checked Nude =mafia role cop, N2 checked Codex=full role card, N3 lie detected Dr. Wilgys song claim = true)

Samusamu - Song Voyeur, can only infodump if you hit no result (N1 no result on Poison Chan, N2 has a result and isn't allowed to infodump it, N3 visits tutuu and sees 2 songs, 1 of which is a mafia song) [@Samusamu do you only get the song name, or do you get other pieces of information about the song like the lyrics? You can tell me if you aren't allowed to answer this.]

SPF - ??? [@staypositivefriend did you make a claim? You're locktown so you don't have to if you don't want to, but if you did let me know and I'll record it.]

tedxtr - Vote Manipulation Nullifier (N1 Tim, N2 nanook, corroborated by trackers, Dizzy N1 and dyachei N2, N3 Nanook)

Timsup2nothin - Anti-Snowball Scaling PR (N1 roleblocked tedxtr, N2 gets a doublevote, Day 2 dead town)

tutuu - Jailkeeper/Rolestopper (N1 Alison, N2 Hally, N3 attempted Alison power did not go through)

[juliets]

I'm having a hard time figuring who is most likely to have blocked Tutuu last night.

We obviously have to rule out Alison and LC, Nanook & TonyStark.

Which leaves:

Dyachei, Wilgy, SPF, MacDougall, Odd, Ted, Dizzie, Jules, Poison.

Herm, I'm a little confused. I would say the people we should rule out are Alison, Mac and SPF, the people tutuu was to choose between to protect. What am I missing there? And why would we rule out LC, Nanook and TSP? (I realize they are green peaks but that doesn't mean they aren't 3p.) I may just be thinking about this all wrong, if so tell me.

[Herm]

Wilgy, Dyachei, Dizzy is a strange mix of Trackers/Watchers.

The people who "can't" claim are also starting to weird me out.

[Samusamu]

I'm having a hard time figuring who is most likely to have blocked Tutuu last night.

We obviously have to rule out Alison and LC, Nanook & TonyStark.

Which leaves:

Dyachei, Wilgy, SPF, MacDougall, Odd, Ted, Dizzie, Jules, Poison.

I dont think i caught mac, jules, poison or ted this night blocking.

That lets me you, wilgy, spff, odd and dya/dizzie. From more to less %

[Herm]

Yeah, I forgot they weren't able to check 3P.

My bad.

[Samusamu]

Wilgy, Dyachei, Dizzy is a strange mix of Trackers/Watchers.

The people who "can't" claim are also starting to weird me out.

From my point of view randomness.of.wilgy is weird, track of dizzy/dya seems accuarate but are still in the poe.

[Samusamu]

I'm having a hard time figuring who is most likely to have blocked Tutuu last night.

We obviously have to rule out Alison and LC, Nanook & TonyStark.

Which leaves:

Dyachei, Wilgy, SPF, MacDougall, Odd, Ted, Dizzie, Jules, Poison.

Herm, I'm a little confused. I would say the people we should rule out are Alison, Mac and SPF, the people tutuu was to choose between to protect. What am I missing there? And why would we rule out LC, Nanook and TSP? (I realize they are green peaks but that doesn't mean they aren't 3p.) I may just be thinking about this all wrong, if so tell me.

Personally i was town reading nanook all the game, tony i thought that has an alibibi.

And lc.only the green.check from Alison.

[Herm]

I'm having a hard time figuring who is most likely to have blocked Tutuu last night.

We obviously have to rule out Alison and LC, Nanook & TonyStark.

Which leaves:

Dyachei, Wilgy, SPF, MacDougall, Odd, Ted, Dizzie, Jules, Poison.

Herm, I'm a little confused. I would say the people we should rule out are Alison, Mac and SPF, the people tutuu was to choose between to protect. What am I missing there? And why would we rule out LC, Nanook and TSP? (I realize they are green peaks but that doesn't mean they aren't 3p.) I may just be thinking about this all wrong, if so tell me.

You're probably more familiar with this setup than I am lol.

I'm mostly trying to figure who would be scum out of all these claims. It's a bit on the confusing side to me.

[Herm]

Logically, I'm thinking Town has a Watcher + a Tracker.

I'll leave the detective work to someone more grounded lol.

[juliets]

I'm having a hard time figuring who is most likely to have blocked Tutuu last night.

We obviously have to rule out Alison and LC, Nanook & TonyStark.

Which leaves:

Dyachei, Wilgy, SPF, MacDougall, Odd, Ted, Dizzie, Jules, Poison.

Herm, I'm a little confused. I would say the people we should rule out are Alison, Mac and SPF, the people tutuu was to choose between to protect. What am I missing there? And why would we rule out LC, Nanook and TSP? (I realize they are green peaks but that doesn't mean they aren't 3p.) I may just be thinking about this all wrong, if so tell me.

You're probably more familiar with this setup than I am lol.

I'm mostly trying to figure who would be scum out of all these claims. It's a bit on the confusing side to me.

I don't disagree that it's confusing. It gets even more confusing when you consider Mac's point from yesterday - why was tutuu blocked if no one shot into the people she was supposed to protect, Mac, Alison, SPF?

[Samusamu]

I'm having a hard time figuring who is most likely to have blocked Tutuu last night.

We obviously have to rule out Alison and LC, Nanook & TonyStark.

Which leaves:

Dyachei, Wilgy, SPF, MacDougall, Odd, Ted, Dizzie, Jules, Poison.

Herm, I'm a little confused. I would say the people we should rule out are Alison, Mac and SPF, the people tutuu was to choose between to protect. What am I missing there? And why would we rule out LC, Nanook and TSP? (I realize they are green peaks but that doesn't mean they aren't 3p.) I may just be thinking about this all wrong, if so tell me.

You're probably more familiar with this setup than I am lol.

I'm mostly trying to figure who would be scum out of all these claims. It's a bit on the confusing side to me.

I don't disagree that it's confusing. It gets even more confusing when you consider Mac's point from yesterday - why was tutuu blocked if no one shot into the people she was supposed to protect, Mac, Alison, SPF?

I was thinking before that prob mafia try there but cant and rogue kills mr.

But okey lets be imaginative, whay if tuutuu delay the mafia kill that one of these.three have to do?

That also will explain it. But the Next question is why in n3 and not in n2?

[Herm]

I'm just assuming Tutuu was blocked by Mafia, which is why I was ruling out Alison and those she cleared.

I would assume the 3P would not be a roleblocker, but I don't know for sure.

[Samusamu]

Smh, I am not mentally prepared to deal with more than this now.

My mind is burning with fatigue from work.

[Herm]

The most coherent explanation that I can think of atm is that Mafia didn't trust Tutuu to 100% stick with "the plan", but I'm sure there's a better explanation out there.

[Herm]

Smh, I am not mentally prepared to deal with more than this now.

My mind is burning with fatigue from work.

Lol.

[juliets]

I'm just assuming Tutuu was blocked by Mafia, which is why I was ruling out Alison and those she cleared.

I would assume the 3P would not be a roleblocker, but I don't know for sure.

Yes, I see your logic. I don't know what to make of the 3P powers. The only night we had 2 kills was the night TSP vigged JPIC. Maybe they have limited kills and have other powers when they don't kill. Or maybe like some have theorized they have some big power they can use but haven't used it yet. I just don't have enough information to piece it together.

I'm not sure I understand your point about tutuu delaying a kill.

[juliets]

Smh, I am not mentally prepared to deal with more than this now.

My mind is burning with fatigue from work.

Oh gosh Samu, get some rest!

[Herm]

I'm not sure I understand your point about tutuu delaying a kill.

I'm not sure I talked about that lol, and if I did, I don't know what I'm talking about lol.

[Samusamu]

Smh, I am not mentally prepared to deal with more than this now.

My mind is burning with fatigue from work.

Oh gosh Samu, get some rest!

In an hour i have more work so yes, i will rest a little.

Tuutuu delay habilities, @tuutuu can u delay a kill action? Can that explain n2 two kills and no kills in n1?

Meh, but why jpic dead if he is mafia, still have no sense for me.

My life is better when i only lynch the poe.

[juliets]

I'm not sure I understand your point about tutuu delaying a kill.

I'm not sure I talked about that lol, and if I did, I don't know what I'm talking about lol.

I'm sorry Herm, that was Samu.

[Samusamu]

I'm gonna move to wilgy.

[juliets]

Ok I'm off for a while. I have work to do today.

[Alison]

Investigative role visiting TSP on N3 as claimed by Wilgy is mindboggling to me

If he (Wilgy) is town, then ... Herm is somehow town too? Cuz Mafia Rolecop visit TSP, maf Roleblocker visit me, and Herm could be neither cuz Dya tracked him only to MR

So unless im missing something if Wilgy is town then Herm is town

i can think of a few possibilities:

-there is a mechanic that only allowed dya to see who herm killed, but not who herm visited. herm's rolecop/roleblocker ability could be invisible to visits

-wilgy is mafia with herm who claimed that report to try to absolve herm

-wilgy is 3p and made up the report about herm, who is mafia

-herm is 3p, which would explain why dya only has him visiting one person

but generally yes, if wilgy is town, it makes it more likely that herm is town as well

im struggling w/my read on herm right now because of oddmerta's claim. if oddmerta really is claiming that he got notified when herm visited his album, then that is big news - but im not sure if it's what odd is actually impyling

it's not actually big news. getting notified when someone visits your album is non-alignment indicative.

[Alison]

Us yeeting 3 wolves doesn't give us any sort of advantage in mechanics. We don't have the advantage here, we have 2 missing roles, we don't know what the 3p's abilities are and you are telling mafia which kills are the safest to make.

Proxying night actions is just bad.

And yet we have someone tracked to the kill. The claimed cop lived. Both doctor claims lived.

Tracking to the kill is not the same as catching the killer but whatever

tracked to the klll after claiming a non-visiting role and revising your roleclaim in a major way is another

[Alison]

I'm having a hard time figuring who is most likely to have blocked Tutuu last night.

We obviously have to rule out Alison and LC, Nanook & TonyStark.

Which leaves:

Dyachei, Wilgy, SPF, MacDougall, Odd, Ted, Dizzie, Jules, Poison.

Herm, I'm a little confused. I would say the people we should rule out are Alison, Mac and SPF, the people tutuu was to choose between to protect. What am I missing there? And why would we rule out LC, Nanook and TSP? (I realize they are green peaks but that doesn't mean they aren't 3p.) I may just be thinking about this all wrong, if so tell me.

You're probably more familiar with this setup than I am lol.

I'm mostly trying to figure who would be scum out of all these claims. It's a bit on the confusing side to me.

I don't disagree that it's confusing. It gets even more confusing when you consider Mac's point from yesterday - why was tutuu blocked if no one shot into the people she was supposed to protect, Mac, Alison, SPF?

i thought about it a bit and the most obvious answer is that the left hand didn't know what the right hand was doing. the people responsible for the kill and the people responsible for the block do not share a BTSC. 3P + mafia

[tutuu]

Let's see, I can say it this way but it's so brazen that even I used to get modkill.

How common is it that Slooney prepares camouflages for the role of the Mafia or the 3p?

The important thing as I said is how I was notified today of the two songs.

im guessing you peekd one of the wolves and they are a ninja / godfather?

not rly sure what to do. ur vote is on herm right now, so i guess im staying on herm?

[tutuu]

I'm gonna move to wilgy.

alright i guess im sheeping u?

Smh, I am not mentally prepared to deal with more than this now.

My mind is burning with fatigue from work.

Oh gosh Samu, get some rest!

In an hour i have more work so yes, i will rest a little.

Tuutuu delay habilities, @tuutuu can u delay a kill action? Can that explain n2 two kills and no kills in n1?

Meh, but why jpic dead if he is mafia, still have no sense for me.

My life is better when i only lynch the poe.

no i completely stop the kill

the jpic kill was claimed by TSP who claimed he vigged him

[tutuu]

i feel rly bad [mention]Samusamu[/mention] for how i went like UR SCUM LOL XDDD even tho it wasnt that bad and like it was just 1-2 posts and it doesnt even matter that much i know it doesnt and if ur town i just feel horrible and i know its irrational but i cant control lizard brain that invokes emotion im sorry. im sorry. im really sorry. i msorry. ill never do it again. i wont just jump on u like that again. im sorry

[tutuu]

"The important thing as I said is how I was notified today of the two songs."

what does this mean

someone decipher this please

help

[tutuu]

I saw 2 songs on tuutuu one is a mafia song, i was thinking it was from herm but if not i have to rethink that.

I got something for sure

The important part is how i see that two songs

like what special could there be about the way he saw these songs

one of them is the mafia roleblocker

whats special about the other one?

is it the same person? same song?

like, idk. dual role? wtf?

cuz he also said camoflague

so like. what. something in the town role was connected to the mafia role?

but he is song voyeur not role voyeur right.

so what, he received 2 songs that sound similar in name, and one of them is mafia, so he thinks - uh idk. idk

[tutuu]

idk idk idk im back to townreading samu and scumreading wilgy

[tutuu]

was he hinting that the song of the mafia role is fake plastic trees? or go to sleep? iDkw0ekw

[tutuu]

Voyeur but with songs... so you target a song and figure out what abilities the role card associated with that song has?

Target a player and then figure what songs were used in that player and some info that is not said in my pm but cause n2 info i think that it is if that person can or cannot roleclaim.

Dunno if something more can be said.

song name and some extra info

well idk lol

u are gonna have to solve this on ur own samu since u cant explicitly spit it out, and just tell us who to vote

[dyachei]

ColinIsCool, Justplayingitcool, Long Con, staypositivefriend

this is my not being villa-read pool

kind of wondering about colin or you mostly.

dya - can you talk about your jpic read on D1?

you keep questioning his play style without ever going anywhere, you put him gth villa and then 10 posts later, this is a post.

gth is different than having a real read. forced into a read didnt mean i was comfortable with it

[juliets]

I'm having a hard time figuring who is most likely to have blocked Tutuu last night.

We obviously have to rule out Alison and LC, Nanook & TonyStark.

Which leaves:

Dyachei, Wilgy, SPF, MacDougall, Odd, Ted, Dizzie, Jules, Poison.

Herm, I'm a little confused. I would say the people we should rule out are Alison, Mac and SPF, the people tutuu was to choose between to protect. What am I missing there? And why would we rule out LC, Nanook and TSP? (I realize they are green peaks but that doesn't mean they aren't 3p.) I may just be thinking about this all wrong, if so tell me.

You're probably more familiar with this setup than I am lol.

I'm mostly trying to figure who would be scum out of all these claims. It's a bit on the confusing side to me.

I don't disagree that it's confusing. It gets even more confusing when you consider Mac's point from yesterday - why was tutuu blocked if no one shot into the people she was supposed to protect, Mac, Alison, SPF?

i thought about it a bit and the most obvious answer is that the left hand didn't know what the right hand was doing. the people responsible for the kill and the people responsible for the block do not share a BTSC. 3P + mafia

Ah yes that would make sense.

[Samusamu]

was he hinting that the song of the mafia role is fake plastic trees? or go to sleep? iDkw0ekw

I dont understand this what means fake plástic trees?