Radiohead Mafia [GAME OVER]

[dyachei]

does this mean that herm thinks wilgy, dizzy, and i are all mafia?

[tutuu]

a song by radiohead

[Herm]

does this mean that herm thinks wilgy, dizzy, and i are all mafia?

No.

[Samusamu]

I'm having a hard time figuring who is most likely to have blocked Tutuu last night.

We obviously have to rule out Alison and LC, Nanook & TonyStark.

Which leaves:

Dyachei, Wilgy, SPF, MacDougall, Odd, Ted, Dizzie, Jules, Poison.

Herm, I'm a little confused. I would say the people we should rule out are Alison, Mac and SPF, the people tutuu was to choose between to protect. What am I missing there? And why would we rule out LC, Nanook and TSP? (I realize they are green peaks but that doesn't mean they aren't 3p.) I may just be thinking about this all wrong, if so tell me.

You're probably more familiar with this setup than I am lol.

I'm mostly trying to figure who would be scum out of all these claims. It's a bit on the confusing side to me.

I don't disagree that it's confusing. It gets even more confusing when you consider Mac's point from yesterday - why was tutuu blocked if no one shot into the people she was supposed to protect, Mac, Alison, SPF?

i thought about it a bit and the most obvious answer is that the left hand didn't know what the right hand was doing. the people responsible for the kill and the people responsible for the block do not share a BTSC. 3P + mafia

Then is what i said mafia block tuutuu and rogue kill mr.

Not viceversa.

[tutuu]

samu implied the mafia roleblocker he saw visiting me has some camoflague

first thing that comes to my mind is ninja modifier. would also make sense when ur vs town watcher and 10 million town trackers

sooo. what then samu. ur the shepherd. how do u spell that? shephard? sheperd? shepard?

[Samusamu]

Voyeur but with songs... so you target a song and figure out what abilities the role card associated with that song has?

Target a player and then figure what songs were used in that player and some info that is not said in my pm but cause n2 info i think that it is if that person can or cannot roleclaim.

Dunno if something more can be said.

song name and some extra info

well idk lol

u are gonna have to solve this on ur own samu since u cant explicitly spit it out, and just tell us who to vote

Crying!!

I need another brain.

[Samusamu]

Voyeur but with songs... so you target a song and figure out what abilities the role card associated with that song has?

Target a player and then figure what songs were used in that player and some info that is not said in my pm but cause n2 info i think that it is if that person can or cannot roleclaim.

Dunno if something more can be said.

song name and some extra info

well idk lol

u are gonna have to solve this on ur own samu since u cant explicitly spit it out, and just tell us who to vote

Crying!!

I need another brain.

[tutuu]

dont think mafia pure roleblocker makes sense. not a whole lot of roleblocks on previous nights

im gonna guess its a joat. roleblock - strongman - something else. idk

and somehow a ninja modifier incorporated into that bowl of spaghetti

[Samusamu]

samu implied the mafia roleblocker he saw visiting me has some camoflague

first thing that comes to my mind is ninja modifier. would also make sense when ur vs town watcher and 10 million town trackers

sooo. what then samu. ur the shepherd. how do u spell that? shephard? sheperd? shepard?

Too much work.

@macdougall why wilgy town would clear herm, i remember reading that but not the reason.

[tutuu]

i thought it would

honestly forgot why i said it i just came back from lectures

[tutuu]

Investigative role visiting TSP on N3 as claimed by Wilgy is mindboggling to me

If he (Wilgy) is town, then ... Herm is somehow town too? Cuz Mafia Rolecop visit TSP, maf Roleblocker visit me, and Herm could be neither cuz Dya tracked him only to MR

So unless im missing something if Wilgy is town then Herm is town

[mention]Samusamu[/mention] wilgy claimed he was randomly assigned to watch TSP on night 3 (thats how his claimed role works) and he saw an investigatiev role visit them

no town inestigative would visit TSP thats silly, so i thought it had to be the mafia role cop that Poison Chan outed the existence of

perhaps mafia wanted to know if TSP is the 3p?

unless a redirector redirected a town investigative to TSP

[tutuu]

WAIT

WAIT

WAIT

WAIT

WAIT

I AM THE MAFIA PRODIGY OF THE NEW MILLENIA

poison chan said her role implies there exists redirectors

so what if dyachei was redirected to TSP, and they saw TSP visit MR?

but tsp's info is so dubious on whetehr or not he doctored MR. and herm so scummy too. weh whatever maybe im not that smart maybe im pretty dumb

[tutuu]

oh yea 1 last thing to say i saved it in a .txt file cuz i was busy responding to samu

the purpose of forbidding info dumps is, from my understanding, to play more "pure" mafia but the result is the opposite in my experience of 2 games

cuz like. lets say at 0 stands - complete silence

at 1 stands full open role claim and info dump which is forbidden

the border is set at 0.5

if u cross 0.5 - bad

if u hover around before 0.5 - acceptable

but numbers are endless

what if i make a 0.4999 info dump

what if i make 0.4999999999999999999999999999999999 info dump

dont things get kind of subjective then?

[Samusamu]

Investigative role visiting TSP on N3 as claimed by Wilgy is mindboggling to me

If he (Wilgy) is town, then ... Herm is somehow town too? Cuz Mafia Rolecop visit TSP, maf Roleblocker visit me, and Herm could be neither cuz Dya tracked him only to MR

So unless im missing something if Wilgy is town then Herm is town

@Samusamu wilgy claimed he was randomly assigned to watch TSP on night 3 (thats how his claimed role works) and he saw an investigatiev role visit them

no town inestigative would visit TSP thats silly, so i thought it had to be the mafia role cop that Poison Chan outed the existence of

perhaps mafia wanted to know if TSP is the 3p?

unless a redirector redirected a town investigative to TSP

Yeah, i know that.

But i have a list of candidates that could have do that roleblock, Poison helps me indirectly too much ago.

What i want to be convinced is with the idea that mac suggested that wilgy can clear herm if flips town. Making at my eyes wilgy a better lynch than nobody.

[tutuu]

What i want to be convinced is with the idea that mac suggested that wilgy can clear herm if flips town. Making at my eyes wilgy a better lynch than nobody.

and im telling u it wasnt mac it was me, you mixed us up, and i told you why i thought wilgy town flip clears herm

[Samusamu]

Eeeeh?

[Samusamu]

Smh

[Samusamu]

I need a break

[Samusamu]

Definitivily

[tutuu]

[mention]Samusamu[/mention]

[tutuu]

(this was me petting u; not just a gif of a doggie, in case u misunderstand!)

[Herm]

My role visits though.

[Herm]

[VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine

[tutuu]

this is my battletheme herm whats ur battletheme

[Poison]

Sorry. Hi. Hello. I was really occupied today. I'll be reading now.

[Poison]

WAIT

WAIT

WAIT

WAIT

WAIT

I AM THE MAFIA PRODIGY OF THE NEW MILLENIA

poison chan said her role implies there exists redirectors

so what if dyachei was redirected to TSP, and they saw TSP visit MR?

but tsp's info is so dubious on whetehr or not he doctored MR. and herm so scummy too. weh whatever maybe im not that smart maybe im pretty dumb

I think you are misunderstanding something I said there might be redirectors. Like I assumed there can be. I think I should read from where I left or I'm not getting anything straight.

[Herm]

this is my battletheme herm whats ur battletheme

This is my battle theme:

[Herm]

[Long Con]

I'm done trying to analyze this today. This page was way too f'ed up for me to follow, and it's upsetting me a little, so I'm done.

If everyone decides for some reason not to yeet Herm today, I'll find out from some synopsis later, because I can't do it anymore. Either I'm having a stroke or this has become way too deep in the weeds for my brain by a long shot. I read this last page and I have zero usable thoughts coming from it.

[staypositivefriend]

Investigative role visiting TSP on N3 as claimed by Wilgy is mindboggling to me

If he (Wilgy) is town, then ... Herm is somehow town too? Cuz Mafia Rolecop visit TSP, maf Roleblocker visit me, and Herm could be neither cuz Dya tracked him only to MR

So unless im missing something if Wilgy is town then Herm is town

i can think of a few possibilities:

-there is a mechanic that only allowed dya to see who herm killed, but not who herm visited. herm's rolecop/roleblocker ability could be invisible to visits

-wilgy is mafia with herm who claimed that report to try to absolve herm

-wilgy is 3p and made up the report about herm, who is mafia

-herm is 3p, which would explain why dya only has him visiting one person

but generally yes, if wilgy is town, it makes it more likely that herm is town as well

im struggling w/my read on herm right now because of oddmerta's claim. if oddmerta really is claiming that he got notified when herm visited his album, then that is big news - but im not sure if it's what odd is actually impyling

it's not actually big news. getting notified when someone visits your album is non-alignment indicative.

okay, im done trying to figure out this game mechanically. i dont care about mechanics anymore.

if im looking at this game purely through a scumhunting lens, then herm is scummy, and he has scum equity with all of the flipped wolves

[DrWilgy]

WAIT

WAIT

WAIT

WAIT

WAIT

I AM THE MAFIA PRODIGY OF THE NEW MILLENIA

poison chan said her role implies there exists redirectors

so what if dyachei was redirected to TSP, and they saw TSP visit MR?

but tsp's info is so dubious on whetehr or not he doctored MR. and herm so scummy too. weh whatever maybe im not that smart maybe im pretty dumb

This is big brain.

The question is would watch resolve before or after redirection?

[tutuu]

After otherwise whats the point of redirection

[dyachei]

[mention]tutuu[/mention] my results made it clear i tracked herm

[tutuu]

omg ur so adorable. i wanna let u win just cuz of that

[tutuu]

@tutuu my results made it clear i tracked herm

*pouts*

[tutuu]

[mention]Alison[/mention] pls say *pouts* pls pls pls pls pls

[Samusamu]

(this was me petting u; not just a gif of a doggie, in case u misunderstand!)

Ohhh hummm thanks nee-san?

[Samusamu]

Investigative role visiting TSP on N3 as claimed by Wilgy is mindboggling to me

If he (Wilgy) is town, then ... Herm is somehow town too? Cuz Mafia Rolecop visit TSP, maf Roleblocker visit me, and Herm could be neither cuz Dya tracked him only to MR

So unless im missing something if Wilgy is town then Herm is town

@Samusamu wilgy claimed he was randomly assigned to watch TSP on night 3 (thats how his claimed role works) and he saw an investigatiev role visit them

no town inestigative would visit TSP thats silly, so i thought it had to be the mafia role cop that Poison Chan outed the existence of

perhaps mafia wanted to know if TSP is the 3p?

unless a redirector redirected a town investigative to TSP

Okey i will try this again.

I follow and noted this actions but why herm is town with this?

[tutuu]

(this was me petting u; not just a gif of a doggie, in case u misunderstand!)

Ohhh hummm thanks nee-san?

ur very welcome otouto

[tutuu]

Investigative role visiting TSP on N3 as claimed by Wilgy is mindboggling to me

If he (Wilgy) is town, then ... Herm is somehow town too? Cuz Mafia Rolecop visit TSP, maf Roleblocker visit me, and Herm could be neither cuz Dya tracked him only to MR

So unless im missing something if Wilgy is town then Herm is town

@Samusamu wilgy claimed he was randomly assigned to watch TSP on night 3 (thats how his claimed role works) and he saw an investigatiev role visit them

no town inestigative would visit TSP thats silly, so i thought it had to be the mafia role cop that Poison Chan outed the existence of

perhaps mafia wanted to know if TSP is the 3p?

unless a redirector redirected a town investigative to TSP

Okey i will try this again.

I follow and noted this actions but why herm is town with this?

assumption 1: one of the mafia is roleblocker who roleblocked me last night
assumption 2: the second mafia is the role cop, as outed by poison chan
assumption 3: the mafia did not try to roleblock and kill MR at the same time last night
assumption 4: no town investigative would visit TSP after he was green peeked and claimed the kill on JPIC
assumption 5: dyachei is a real town tracker that tracked herm to MR, and nothing interfered with that
assumption 6: the 3p rogue did not interfere with any of this in any way

if all 6 of these are correct, herm is town if wilgy is town

[tutuu]

(because the mafia roleblocker visited me and the mafia rolecop visited TSP and herm cant be either one because dyachei would receive a report that herm visited 2 people instead of just 1)

[tutuu]

assumption 7. herm isn't a mafia ninja roleblocker (ninja just on the roleblocking action and not the killing)

idk i could write a million assumptions its literally endless how much we can play this game

[dyachei]

im only x-shot. do we want me to track again tonight or hold it?

[Samusamu]

Investigative role visiting TSP on N3 as claimed by Wilgy is mindboggling to me

If he (Wilgy) is town, then ... Herm is somehow town too? Cuz Mafia Rolecop visit TSP, maf Roleblocker visit me, and Herm could be neither cuz Dya tracked him only to MR

So unless im missing something if Wilgy is town then Herm is town

@Samusamu wilgy claimed he was randomly assigned to watch TSP on night 3 (thats how his claimed role works) and he saw an investigatiev role visit them

no town inestigative would visit TSP thats silly, so i thought it had to be the mafia role cop that Poison Chan outed the existence of

perhaps mafia wanted to know if TSP is the 3p?

unless a redirector redirected a town investigative to TSP

Okey i will try this again.

I follow and noted this actions but why herm is town with this?

assumption 1: one of the mafia is roleblocker who roleblocked me last night
assumption 2: the second mafia is the role cop, as outed by poison chan
assumption 3: the mafia did not try to roleblock and kill MR at the same time last night
assumption 4: no town investigative would visit TSP after he was green peeked and claimed the kill on JPIC
assumption 5: dyachei is a real town tracker that tracked herm to MR, and nothing interfered with that
assumption 6: the 3p rogue did not interfere with any of this in any way

if all 6 of these are correct, herm is town if wilgy is town

Omg! I trust poison so buy 1 and 2, think for myself 3 is accuarate, also buy number 4 and 5, a little out in number 6 cause i think the rogue did the kill on mr.

@Herm !! Your role goes beyond camouflages?

[staypositivefriend]

Investigative role visiting TSP on N3 as claimed by Wilgy is mindboggling to me

If he (Wilgy) is town, then ... Herm is somehow town too? Cuz Mafia Rolecop visit TSP, maf Roleblocker visit me, and Herm could be neither cuz Dya tracked him only to MR

So unless im missing something if Wilgy is town then Herm is town

i can think of a few possibilities:

-there is a mechanic that only allowed dya to see who herm killed, but not who herm visited. herm's rolecop/roleblocker ability could be invisible to visits

-wilgy is mafia with herm who claimed that report to try to absolve herm

-wilgy is 3p and made up the report about herm, who is mafia

-herm is 3p, which would explain why dya only has him visiting one person

but generally yes, if wilgy is town, it makes it more likely that herm is town as well

im struggling w/my read on herm right now because of oddmerta's claim. if oddmerta really is claiming that he got notified when herm visited his album, then that is big news - but im not sure if it's what odd is actually impyling

it's not actually big news. getting notified when someone visits your album is non-alignment indicative.

okay, im done trying to figure out this game mechanically. i dont care about mechanics anymore.

if im looking at this game purely through a scumhunting lens, then herm is scummy, and he has scum equity with all of the flipped wolves

addendum: if getting notified when someone visits your album is non-alignment indicative, then why is oddmerta claiming that herm is lock town from his point of view???????

[tutuu]

If u wanna mention u gotta [mention]Samusamu[/mention] but write it very slowly. Write the @ and then write the name slowly letter by letter until the dropdown menu appears and u gotta click it [mention]Herm[/mention] i think u had diffikulties with this aswell!

[Samusamu]

Investigative role visiting TSP on N3 as claimed by Wilgy is mindboggling to me

If he (Wilgy) is town, then ... Herm is somehow town too? Cuz Mafia Rolecop visit TSP, maf Roleblocker visit me, and Herm could be neither cuz Dya tracked him only to MR

So unless im missing something if Wilgy is town then Herm is town

i can think of a few possibilities:

-there is a mechanic that only allowed dya to see who herm killed, but not who herm visited. herm's rolecop/roleblocker ability could be invisible to visits

-wilgy is mafia with herm who claimed that report to try to absolve herm

-wilgy is 3p and made up the report about herm, who is mafia

-herm is 3p, which would explain why dya only has him visiting one person

but generally yes, if wilgy is town, it makes it more likely that herm is town as well

im struggling w/my read on herm right now because of oddmerta's claim. if oddmerta really is claiming that he got notified when herm visited his album, then that is big news - but im not sure if it's what odd is actually impyling

it's not actually big news. getting notified when someone visits your album is non-alignment indicative.

okay, im done trying to figure out this game mechanically. i dont care about mechanics anymore.

if im looking at this game purely through a scumhunting lens, then herm is scummy, and he has scum equity with all of the flipped wolves

addendum: if getting notified when someone visits your album is non-alignment indicative, then why is oddmerta claiming that herm is lock town from his point of view???????

I'm in the same spot right now!

If wilgy flips town, herms is town and odd too unless herm doesnt go beyonf camouflages and odd is taking advantage of this and have scumreasons to say herm is locktown and trying to save him from lynch.

Thats my hypothesis.

So [mention]Herm[/mention] (ohhh i find the red @ ) do your role go beyond camouflages?

[Samusamu]

If u wanna mention u gotta @Samusamu but write it very slowly. Write the @ and then write the name slowly letter by letter until the dropdown menu appears and u gotta click it @Herm i think u had diffikulties with this aswell!

Lol i discovered by myself a seconds before read this.

But thanks nee-san.

[tutuu]

What exactly do u mean by a camoflague?

And pls never stop calling me nee-san

[Samusamu]

What exactly do u mean by a camoflague?

And pls never stop calling me nee-san

A camouflage is like an alibibi but for roles if i investigate roles and investigate player A who is mafia but player A has a camouflage that say when this player is investigated i will recieve that player A is town or something different from the truth, then there is a camouflage in player A.

In my site some roles can go beyond camouflages, others not.