Radiohead Mafia [GAME OVER]

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Or maybe it’ll be RNGed? Unclear.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

That being said getting full rolecard is janky af tbh and makes me wonder why poison has waited so long to use it, but idk

[MacDougall]

I used The role card and got High and Dry. Civ. Conditional tracker and can make a post upon their death. I'll elaborate on it later.

So dizzy isn't 3p. In things we didn't already know.

[MacDougall]

i wont be around much tomorrow, i might not even be here for the deadline

im voting poison but i am also inspired to vote for oddmerta

i maintain that i am obviously not 3p after the way i helped destroy the scum team

It's Mac

I'm open to this.

Here's your rogue. You're welcome.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

In a game with the amount of town clears this one has had “I did too much scumhunting so I can’t be 3p” isn’t a thing

Cause 3p was forced by gamestate to townside or be pushed into a narrow POE

[MacDougall]

Let's do this the simple way. Which of the following players contributed the least to the town wincon?

Mac
SPF
PC
LC
Juliets

I rest my case.

[MacDougall]

[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

[MacDougall]

Reasons why LC is the rogue.

1. Refused to prove his role when I asked.
2. Thought he was vanilla at first but apparently was too high to notice and somehow "you can force someone to not vote for you but you can't either" is something that be complicated for a vanilla town in a role madness game.
3. Has by some margin been the least helpful of the remaining players at solving the game.

[MacDougall]

In a game with the amount of town clears this one has had “I did too much scumhunting so I can’t be 3p” isn’t a thing

Cause 3p was forced by gamestate to townside or be pushed into a narrow POE

And yet, it's Long Con and he didn't really townside at all. Interesting that.

[MacDougall]

[mention]Long Con[/mention] out all of your actions please.

[MacDougall]

[mention]Oddmerta[/mention] provide one shred of evidence that I am the 3p and I will address you. "It's Mac" is just going to get you roundly ignore by me.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

In a game with the amount of town clears this one has had “I did too much scumhunting so I can’t be 3p” isn’t a thing

Cause 3p was forced by gamestate to townside or be pushed into a narrow POE

And yet, it's Long Con and he didn't really townside at all. Interesting that.

I mean sure, that’s also possible! I’m just saying that a defense of “but I townsided!” is meh given how this game has gone. Cause the alternative to 3p townsiding is what’s happened to LC where he’s in a narrow POE

[Oddmerta]

@Oddmerta provide one shred of evidence that I am the 3p and I will address you. "It's Mac" is just going to get you roundly ignore by me.

The lack of evidence is the evidence if you understand where I'm coming from

[Oddmerta]

We can take out Long Con today as long as ted promises to be on MacDougall tonight

[MacDougall]

@Oddmerta provide one shred of evidence that I am the 3p and I will address you. "It's Mac" is just going to get you roundly ignore by me.

The lack of evidence is the evidence if you understand where I'm coming from

That also applies specifically and 100% to you and SPF.

[MacDougall]

I know Oddmerta isn't the 3p by virtue of the fact that he is reading me as 3p from a POE perspective he would only come up with as town.

So that's neat.

Oddmerta, Nook, Ted, Dyslexicon not 3p.

[MacDougall]

I don't particularly care if you kill me today but if you do that and then go on to lose the game I will care. I'll be supremely unimpressed in fact.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I’m actually curious what you’re clearing me for

Not that I mind obviously

[MacDougall]

I’m actually curious what you’re clearing me for

Not that I mind obviously

I dunno you said something earlier about being cleared of being 3p and I am just assuming what you said was legitimate.

[MacDougall]

I’m definitely visiting someone tonight tho

why do you want the extra vote that bad

stay home, it will only make you look bad if you are caught visiting

I mean I’m already cleared not-mafia so

And it should be easy for anyone that knows me to figure out I wouldn’t have ever a) forgotten to submit an action and b) worked to clear myself if I were 3p so

I don’t really care about looking bad or not, tbh, I’m never getting TKed this game so it doesn’t matter

I just read this and went "yeah makes sense" and cleared you tbh.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Good enough for me tbh

[MacDougall]

After isoing LC I'm a little bit off the idea of him being the 3p.

[MacDougall]

I think PC isn't the 3p. I see no reason why they would out Dyslexicon as definitely civ after the mafia are dead if they were 3p.

[MacDougall]

Personally I think there are just as many holes in Long Con's claim. I still don't understand how he could have misread his role PM as vanilla. When asked "I guess it's because my role is unimportant" is just straight bullshit honestly. If anyone is phoning it in cuz their team has been tanked it's probably him lol. Also his role doesn't super make sense in the context of all the other ones.

My concern is that the 3P is very likely NOT phoning it in.

Unless I guess they are someone who just hates the idea altogether.

One man gang against both sides, with some decent powers (presumably), I'd be playing all out.

We can whack these slankers, but I dunno if that gets the 3P. How we gonna find this guy if they are a hard worker?

First of all we clear the POE and out the mafia. That proves that the 3P is hiding in the trusted people. Then, we examine which of these people have the most 3P equity. For example, people who are trusted off good looking interactions with flipped mafia. At this point some town roles will certainly have died and we'll know to trust their results. We can then hopefully use a combination of remaining towncore (I don't think 3P is in the hard towncore, they've towned too hard for that) and mech solves to root out the 3P and win.

Ok this makes me feel better.

One post reading this as not 3p.

[MacDougall]

Read Nook's ISO. Doubt he's 3p.

[MacDougall]

I feel like it might be >rand for the actual 3p to have been offwagon (not including Dizzy) on Tutuu simply because they KNEW she wasn't the 3p so they would have found it it easier to push against the idea than fake actually thinking she was. Like the 3p at that time isn't in the game of creating misyeets because there is still a mafia alive and it's always easier to nope something than it is to fake emotion/thoughts.

[MacDougall]

So LC voted himself because he was protest voting Tutuu.

If I am right it literally just narrows it down to PC and Juliets. Which I'm not vibing. So back to the drawing board. Let's look at the reasoning that the actual voters that are alive gave then.

[MacDougall]

SPF, Ted, Oddmerta, Nanook.

I'm gonna draw a line through Ted outright and read the other three.

[MacDougall]

Nook really didn't ever outright state that he thought Tutuu was the 3p. There was no actual fear of her flipping 3p. He just sheeped Alison's policy yeet notion. I can see the real 3p doing that.

[MacDougall]

Oddmerta didn't really provide any reasoning at all either. Lame.

[MacDougall]

The only time it's funny for non-tutu people is if tutu is actually 3p that incorrectly thought they had a locked win. Or if they're a jester ig but if there's a game ending jester in this game I will riot.

Otherwise it's just kinda dickish.

Mafia is about having fun!

Why did you wait until the day started to rescind your stunt? Were you trying to influence the actions of the other players?

See from a town perspective, you have to go

There was 6 hours, most ppl were afk, and if anyone changed their night actions itnwould be maybe mafia killing me or some shit dunno

"most people were afk" when me, long con, juliets, nanook, ted, mac, logic, wilgy, and alison all reacted to you claim

lol

if tutuu is town i'll probably find her fakeclaim funny eventually but for now it's just kind of pissing me off lol

Alright. I think this is the most meaty thing and it's kinda whack but here goes.

I think SPF has a tell. I think she has a lol tell.

I think she felt genuinely humoured by the idea that Tutuu fake claimed 3p and was getting herself killed, in a way that the 3p would. Schadenfreude kidna.

I don't believe that she was pissed off in the slightest. She just said that to justify voting there. And if someone is pissed off, what kind of follow up is lol?

Just doesn't sit right.

[MacDougall]

Now I don't think it's her either.

Paging [mention]tedxtr[/mention] to the thread.

[tedxtr]

I'm here, watching you doing your thing :P

[tedxtr]

Honestly, I was very tempted to suggest not yeeting.

Not having a factional, to me, is very suggestive that 3p hasn't yet accomplished his wincon but he doesn't have a standalone wincon.

Not giving them a factional is weird - how are they supposed to meet a "you have to be the last standing" wincon without it.

[Oddmerta]

Honestly, I was very tempted to suggest not yeeting.

Not having a factional, to me, is very suggestive that 3p hasn't yet accomplished his wincon but he doesn't have a standalone wincon.

Not giving them a factional is weird - how are they supposed to meet a "you have to be the last standing" wincon without it.

Vote stacker and Arsonist are the first two things that come to mind

[tedxtr]

I think if they are a threat to us and they do actually have a standalone wincon, we should just let Poison keep doing her thing, looking for roles, assuming she has shots left and then we would have at least a slightly more educated guess on where we should look at.

I'm assuming they won't nk tomorrow either.

Iirc, 3p just had to visit Poison in order to cancel her result, so what are they doing??

[MacDougall]

I think if they are a threat to us and they do actually have a standalone wincon, we should just let Poison keep doing her thing, looking for roles, assuming she has shots left and then we would have at least a slightly more educated guess on where we should look at.

I'm assuming they won't nk tomorrow either.

Iirc, 3p just had to visit Poison in order to cancel her result, so what are they doing??

Huh?

[MacDougall]

Honestly, I was very tempted to suggest not yeeting.

Not having a factional, to me, is very suggestive that 3p hasn't yet accomplished his wincon but he doesn't have a standalone wincon.

Not giving them a factional is weird - how are they supposed to meet a "you have to be the last standing" wincon without it.

Vote stacker and Arsonist are the first two things that come to mind

Nah this game is weird and Sloonei is weird. The 3p has a weird wincon.

[tedxtr]

I think if they are a threat to us and they do actually have a standalone wincon, we should just let Poison keep doing her thing, looking for roles, assuming she has shots left and then we would have at least a slightly more educated guess on where we should look at.

I'm assuming they won't nk tomorrow either.

Iirc, 3p just had to visit Poison in order to cancel her result, so what are they doing??

Huh?

idk what this is "huh"-ing at.

Poison has 2 conditions in order for her to get results back and one of them was to not be visited by any non-civillian.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Nook really didn't ever outright state that he thought Tutuu was the 3p. There was no actual fear of her flipping 3p. He just sheeped Alison's policy yeet notion. I can see the real 3p doing that.

No I didn’t

I explicitly thought she was town and I would kill her anyways

Not for whatever Alison’s policy though was

Because it was annoying and I had the time to be petty

[MacDougall]

The 3p absolutely has a wincon related to the song bullshit. It makes too much sense.

Hey let's make Radiohead mafia. A weird as fuck game where there are like songcops and song related mafia bs and make the rogue not related to songs.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Nook really didn't ever outright state that he thought Tutuu was the 3p. There was no actual fear of her flipping 3p. He just sheeped Alison's policy yeet notion. I can see the real 3p doing that.

No I didn’t

I explicitly thought she was town and I would kill her anyways

Not for whatever Alison’s policy thing was

Because it was annoying and I had the time to be petty

*EBWOP

[tedxtr]

[MacDougall]

Nook really didn't ever outright state that he thought Tutuu was the 3p. There was no actual fear of her flipping 3p. He just sheeped Alison's policy yeet notion. I can see the real 3p doing that.

No I didn’t

I explicitly thought she was town and I would kill her anyways

Not for whatever Alison’s policy though was

Because it was annoying and I had the time to be petty

K

[tedxtr]

that was the independent role Sloonei used in another of his games

hope this is not rule breaking or whatever, prolly should've asked first

[MacDougall]

Sloonei creation right?

[MacDougall]

that was the independent role Sloonei used in another of his games

hope this is not rule breaking or whatever, prolly should've asked first

Nah that's not rule breaking you gucci

[MacDougall]

[VOTE: STAYPOSITIVEFRIEND] aubergine

[tedxtr]

idk if the 3p in that game could've won with town or if he hypno'd everyone, he was the sole winner

[tedxtr]

Yeah I assume you can make some wild speculation about the Magpie message received, but in that game the 3p didn't notify people.

Again, Magpie is on an album with only civvies, which is King Of The Limbs/