The 7th Saga [END, JJJ IS A DOOFUS]

[tutuu]

here is an interesting take: sometimes conflict is necessary for things to move forward

hally, you did try to police us and i think thats okay from a cosmic omniscient point of view. you dont like conflict, so you take action to get rid of it so you dont feel bad. nothing wrong about that

alison is also just doing what she thinks is right

i am also doing what i think is right

if there was no conflict i do not believe issues get resolved

[MacDougall]

I mean I was serious when I said I won't tolerate your behavior past page 5

also everyone should vote chardonnay because everything they've done and said has been incredibly forced, awkward and hedgey

I look forward to Ob!towning the daylights out of you later then

-/-/-/-

I am town reading Alison.

I like Hally trying to break up Alison and Tutuu. Not strong town points, but better then nothing.

hally's behavior is NAI.

true. conflict just makes me ill

Good to know. I guess im used to other sites where scum chill when infighting happens. I wouldn't expect scum to break upa theoretical town v Town Alison tuutu

i remember trying to break up townies fighting as mafia in a game once and not getting my due townread for it and it was annoying

[Alison]

I mean the way to do it is to pretend to break them up but in an extremely ineffectual way so you just make them more annoyed and committed to fighting with each other and then you get the best of both worlds.

[Hally]

here is an interesting take: sometimes conflict is necessary for things to move forward

hally, you did try to police us and i think thats okay from a cosmic omniscient point of view. you dont like conflict, so you take action to get rid of it so you dont feel bad. nothing wrong about that

alison is also just doing what she thinks is right

i am also doing what i think is right

if there was no conflict i do not believe issues get resolved

i guess it’s not the conflict itself i have an issue with. i agree conflict can often bring about positive change, and if that’s what it takes for you both to be on good terms with each other again that’s ok

what i maybe moreso take issue with is bringing it into this game thread as opposed to resolving it privately with the mod on duty. since now everyone is kinda roped into your conflict and it sours the game for us too, whereas it should really should just be between you both. but this is just my feeling, and im probably overreacting just because im very sensitive to conflict

[chardonnay]

[mention]tutuu[/mention] I think the issue with the conflict is that its not really helping the game at hand? This seems like a world veiw battle, not a alignment battle. Unless you have a read on alison?

maybe you could talk to me about somebody else on the roster if you want?

-/-/-/-/-

Hi MacDougall, I actully did manage to break up a T V T as mafia once and got lots of town cred D1. Alas it didnt last and i was on the chopping block D2.

May i ask for a succinct description of your playstyle?

[MacDougall]

im bored you're mafia

[tutuu]

hi bored, heard you were calling

[MacDougall]

hi bored, heard you were calling

[MacDougall]

this game is now tutuu vs. mac for funniest poster of the year

[Hally]

@tutuu I think the issue with the conflict is that its not really helping the game at hand? This seems like a world veiw battle, not a alignment battle. Unless you have a read on alison?

maybe you could talk to me about somebody else on the roster if you want?

-/-/-/-/-

Hi MacDougall, I actully did manage to break up a T V T as mafia once and got lots of town cred D1. Alas it didnt last and i was on the chopping block D2.

May i ask for a succinct description of your playstyle?

why did you ask mac this? what prompted this question and what are you expecting to gain from it?

[Alison]

here is an interesting take: sometimes conflict is necessary for things to move forward

hally, you did try to police us and i think thats okay from a cosmic omniscient point of view. you dont like conflict, so you take action to get rid of it so you dont feel bad. nothing wrong about that

alison is also just doing what she thinks is right

i am also doing what i think is right

if there was no conflict i do not believe issues get resolved

i guess it’s not the conflict itself i have an issue with. i agree conflict can often bring about positive change, and if that’s what it takes for you both to be on good terms with each other again that’s ok

what i maybe moreso take issue with is bringing it into this game thread as opposed to resolving it privately with the mod on duty. since now everyone is kinda roped into your conflict and it sours the game for us too, whereas it should really should just be between you both. but this is just my feeling, and im probably overreacting just because im very sensitive to conflict

really the thing tutuu has to do to be on good terms with me again is very simple and it's to just stop claiming scum every game. I don't think it's an unreasonable request

[Alison]

anyway I'm sleeping for real now bye

[MacDougall]

I didn't even notice the question but succinctly, I am a level 4 player and easily the best and most complete mafia player you have ever encountered. You should be thrilled to receive the lessons you are about to receive.

[chardonnay]

@tutuu I think the issue with the conflict is that its not really helping the game at hand? This seems like a world veiw battle, not a alignment battle. Unless you have a read on alison?

maybe you could talk to me about somebody else on the roster if you want?

-/-/-/-/-

Hi MacDougall, I actully did manage to break up a T V T as mafia once and got lots of town cred D1. Alas it didnt last and i was on the chopping block D2.

May i ask for a succinct description of your playstyle?

why did you ask mac this? what prompted this question and what are you expecting to gain from it?

I was curious if he was a "goofball" style player with all the jokes and gifs, or if that just his early game routine.

There are certain player types that i struggle to get reliable reads on. Funny, charismatic people are one of them.

I didn't even notice the question but succinctly, I am a level 4 player and easily the best and most complete mafia player you have ever encountered. You should be thrilled to receive the lessons you are about to receive.

Whats lesson 1?

[tutuu]

here is an interesting take: sometimes conflict is necessary for things to move forward

hally, you did try to police us and i think thats okay from a cosmic omniscient point of view. you dont like conflict, so you take action to get rid of it so you dont feel bad. nothing wrong about that

alison is also just doing what she thinks is right

i am also doing what i think is right

if there was no conflict i do not believe issues get resolved

i guess it’s not the conflict itself i have an issue with. i agree conflict can often bring about positive change, and if that’s what it takes for you both to be on good terms with each other again that’s ok

what i maybe moreso take issue with is bringing it into this game thread as opposed to resolving it privately with the mod on duty. since now everyone is kinda roped into your conflict and it sours the game for us too, whereas it should really should just be between you both. but this is just my feeling, and im probably overreacting just because im very sensitive to conflict

really the thing tutuu has to do to be on good terms with me again is very simple and it's to just stop claiming scum every game. I don't think it's an unreasonable request

not happening!

where im coming from is here: i dont like having the feeling that my freedom is being trampled upon

doesnt matter how tiny the microagression is. if its something that i perceive as an attack on my freedom i will fight my best against it

i dont find claiming scum every post funny anymore, it is not an integral part of my play, and i could easily drop it

but im not bending the knee to people who feel the need to act dominant towards me. doesnt matter how ridiculous the cause is for me to go to battle under this banner, i am not bending the knee, and i am dying on the hill if i have to. i have seen Braveheart starring Mel Gibson so I know what i'm talking about

[Alison]

enjoy never playing a game with me ever again

[tutuu]

see you, space cowboy

[chardonnay]

Tutuu whats your thoughts on the game outside of Alison?

[MacDougall]

Me winning the funniest poster award because tutuu mad

[tutuu]

Tutuu whats your thoughts on the game outside of Alison?

mac and hally town and nanook scum but these are silly one-post reads that dont matter much

i havent thought about mac's and hally's later posts since i was preocuppied with other stuff, after i ponder about them i will let u know

[tutuu]

Me winning the funniest poster award because tutuu mad

i think my braveheart mel gibson line was pretty funny. made me laugh as i was writing it even thought i was upset

[MacDougall]

@tutuu I think the issue with the conflict is that its not really helping the game at hand? This seems like a world veiw battle, not a alignment battle. Unless you have a read on alison?

maybe you could talk to me about somebody else on the roster if you want?

-/-/-/-/-

Hi MacDougall, I actully did manage to break up a T V T as mafia once and got lots of town cred D1. Alas it didnt last and i was on the chopping block D2.

May i ask for a succinct description of your playstyle?

why did you ask mac this? what prompted this question and what are you expecting to gain from it?

I was curious if he was a "goofball" style player with all the jokes and gifs, or if that just his early game routine.

There are certain player types that i struggle to get reliable reads on. Funny, charismatic people are one of them.

I didn't even notice the question but succinctly, I am a level 4 player and easily the best and most complete mafia player you have ever encountered. You should be thrilled to receive the lessons you are about to receive.

Whats lesson 1?

LESSON 1: Techn 3 iques to Learn About the
Brain and Neural Function
As technology has improved, scientists have used a wide range of techniques to
learn about the brain and neural function. There are three fundamental ways to
study how the brain functions: lesion, stimulation, and recording.
I. Greek philosophers and physicians linked the mind with the brain.
A. Hippocrates (460-377 B.C.) said that emotions, thought, and mental
health arise from the brain (Plato agreed 427-347 B.C.).
B. Galen (circa 130-200 A.D.) thought that fluids of the brain in ventricles
were responsible for sensations, reasoning, judgment, memory, and
movement.
II. Franz Gall (1758-1828) and Johann Spurzheim (1776-1832)
incorrectly related bumps and depressions on the surface of
the skull with personality traits and moral character. This study
was known as phrenology. Later researchers explored localization of
functions in the brain with more systematic research.
III. Studying patients with brain damage linked loss of structure with
loss of function.
A. Phineas Gage was the level-headed, calm foreman of a railroad crew
(1848) until an explosion hurled a tamping iron through his head.
After the injury destroyed major parts of his prefrontal lobes, thereby
severing connections with his limbic system, Gage became volatile.
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His localized brain injury and subsequent change in behavior helped
researchers identify areas of the frontal lobes as being instrumental to
the mediation and control of emotional behavior.
B. Paul Broca (1824-1880) performed an autopsy on the brain of a
patient named Leborgne (aka Tan) who had lost the capacity for
speech with no paralysis of the articulatory tract and no loss of verbal
comprehension or intelligence. Tan’s brain showed damage to the
left frontal lobe, as did the brains of several similar cases, relating
destruction of “Broca’s area” to expressive aphasia (1861). Carl
Wernicke (1848-1905) similarly found that an area in the temporal
lobe of the left cerebral hemisphere is important for language
comprehension.
C. Gunshot wounds, tumors, strokes, Alzheimer’s disease, Korsakoff’s
syndrome (amnesia caused by B1 deficiency related to malnutrition or
alcoholism), and so on enabled further mapping of the brain.
IV. Producing lesions (damaging the structure) at specific brain
sites enabled systematic study of loss of function resulting from
surgical removal, severing of neural connections, or destruction
by chemical or electrical applications.
Ablation is the removal of a structure. The vast majority of lesion studies are with
laboratory animals (although occasionally, surgeons must remove some brain
structure in humans to remove a tumor). The procedures in nonhuman animals are
done only after thorough review by Institutional Animal Care and Use Committees
(IACUCs), which ensure that the work is ethical and pain will be minimized.
V. Examination of neural tissue led to the understanding of the neuron
as the basic unit of structure and function of the nervous system.
Santiago Ramon y Cajal (1852-1934) perfected a selective silver
staining technique developed by Camillo Golgi (1843-1926) to examine
single neurons. Cajal described the structure of a neuron and noted that
each cell was distinct from the next instead of merging into it.
VI. Direct electrical stimulation of the brain provides another way to
test the functions of certain brain areas.
A. Wilder Penfield (1952) used an electrode to localize the origin of
seizures in patients. Stimulating different cortical areas, such as the
back of the frontal cortex, at particular sites caused movement for
different body parts, enabling mapping of the motor cortex.
B. Walter Hess (1955) inserted electrodes more deeply into the brain of
nonhuman animals that were under anesthesia. After they recovered
from the surgery, he related start/stop functions with specific brain
structures. Examples are the “start eating and stop eating” functions
associated with areas of the hypothalamus.
VII. An EEG (electroencephalogram) is an amplified tracing of the
activity of a region of the brain produced when electrodes
positioned in direct contact with the scalp transmit signals
about the brain’s electrical activity (“brain waves”) to an
electroencephalograph machine. The amplified tracings are referred
to as evoked potentials when the recorded change in voltage is the
result of a response to a specific stimulus presented to the subject.
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EEGs have been used to study the brain during various states of
arousal (such as sleeping and dreaming), detect abnormalities (such
as deafness and visual disorders in infants or epilepsy), and study
cognition.
VIII. Imaging techniques in widespread use provide images of brain
anatomy.
A. CAT scan (also called CT)—computerized axial tomography

1. A CAT scan creates a computerized image of X-rays passed
through various angles of the brain showing two-dimensional
“slices” that can be arranged to show the extent of a lesion.

2. The procedure may involve injection of a contrast dye and
involves shorter periods of scanning than MRI. Because it
does not use magnets, it can be used with patients who have
pacemakers or metallic implants.
B. MRI—magnetic resonance imaging

1. The giant circular magnet in the MRI machine causes the
hydrogen nuclei in the water of cells to orient in a single
direction. Pulses of radio waves cause the atoms to spin at a
frequency and in a direction dependent on the type of tissue.
The computer constructs images based on these signals.
2. MRI images are more detailed than CAT or PET scans and can
be produced for any plane of view.
IX. Some imaging techniques in widespread use have enabled
neuroscientists to observe the activity of the brain as it functions.
A. fMRI—functional magnetic resonance imaging

1. fMRIs capitalize on the ability of MRI scanners to detect
a change in oxygen that occurs in an area of heightened
neuronal activity. Heightened activity causes the brain to
use more oxygen. Therefore, hemoglobin in that area has
less oxygen bound to it. Hemoglobin with oxygen reacts to a
magnetic field in a different way from hemoglobin not bound to
oxygen.
2. fMRI is generally considered preferable to PET because fMRI
does not expose the brain to radioactivity. Powerful magnetic
fields can pose a mild risk, too, especially if repeated rapidly,
but they are less dangerous than radioactivity.
B. PET scans—positron emission tomography
1. When neurons are active, an automatic increase in blood
flow to the active region of the brain brings more oxygen and
glucose necessary for respiration. Blood flow changes are used
to create brain images when tracers (such as radioactively
labeled glucose) injected into the blood of the subject emit
particles called positrons, which are converted into signals
detected by the PET scanner (or more specifically, the
positrons almost immediately are destroyed and produce pairs
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of gamma particles, and the gamma radiation is detected by the
scanner). Glucose concentrates in the areas of greatest activity,
and the concentration of labeled substances taken up by brain
tissue (revealed in colored computer graphics) depends on the
amount of metabolic activity in the imaged brain region. This
technique tracks complex series of interactions in different brain
areas associated with specific mental processes.
2. PET scans expose the subject to radioactivity (a low amount),
so their use is limited.
X. Other advances in technology have enabled neuroscientists to
learn more about the relationship of neurological function to
behavior.
A. BEAM—brain electrical activity mapping
This feeds EEG information from numerous recording sites into a
computer that constructs an image of the brain showing areas with
different gradations of voltage in different colors or shades so that more
accurate diagnoses of brain tumors, epilepsy, and learning disorders
can be made.
B. MEG—magnetoencephalography and SQUID—superconducting
quantum interference device
Based on the fact that whenever an electrical current is present there is
an accompanying magnetic field, MEG detects neural activity too brief
to be detected by PET or fMRI. This technique has been used to locate
seizure-producing regions in epileptic patients. It’s similar to EEG. MEG
measurements use a SQUID, an extremely sensitive device, which
detects magnetic fields.
C. PRONG—parallel recording of neural groups
Electrodes that can measure many individual neurons in close proximity
have uncovered information about communication among neurons in a
region.
D. SPECT—single-photon emission computerized tomography
This tracks cerebral blood flow as an indicator of neural activity in
specific brain regions during performance of various tasks. SPECT is
faster but has lower resolution than PET.
E. TMS—transcranial magnetic stimulation
The coils of wire around the head let scientists either depress or
enhance activity in one area of the brain. This allows them to learn
more about the different brain functions.
F. Gene knock-out technology
Breakthroughs in genetics have allowed scientists to remove specific
genes from mice (and some other organisms) to help them understand
the link between genes and behavior. For example, mice that are
lacking one of the genes responsible for regulating the neurotransmitter
dopamine act as if they are permanently high on cocaine.
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G. Optogenetics allows neuroscientists to insert genes into neurons of
nonhuman animals that cause the neurons to become sensitive to
(and be excited by) light. Shining light on that part of the brain will
then activate those neurons. This allows specific activation of only the
modified neurons, allowing their functions to be better understood.

[MacDougall]

Me winning the funniest poster award because tutuu mad

i think my braveheart mel gibson line was pretty funny. made me laugh as i was writing it even thought i was upset

it was but I'm politicking here

[chardonnay]

Tutuu whats your thoughts on the game outside of Alison?

mac and hally town and nanook scum but these are silly one-post reads that dont matter much

i havent thought about mac's and hally's later posts since i was preocuppied with other stuff, after i ponder about them i will let u know

thanks, look forward to it!

-/-/-/-/-

Mac pleases tell me thats a copy pasta?! I think my grasp on reality would snap if that was something you at some point in time typed out yourself lol

[chardonnay]

actually it looks like some kinda exclipedia snippet

[chardonnay]

Ehh, I feel like maybe my first impression paranoia of Tutuu is non-ai for her.

[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Hey gang,

“Play with love” is not just a cheap slogan. It is a rule. Thank you.

[MacDougall]

[Long Con]

Heyyyyy.... this is just a big fat "thing" now, eh? Anywho, I see Alison is making a federal case out of me asking if that thing could be Lie Detected. I don't really dig that much, but I really try to respect people's beliefs and keep an open mind.

[Long Con]

ALSO I want to play with love. I love my fellow players, and I hope they can love me, in my hideous wairdness.

[Long Con]

Argh... "weirdness" never mind

[Long Con]

wow, you’re so helpful

so who is your teammate?

i dont wish to say their name because i dont know if i can actually spin a defense for myself post-game that this wasnt an actual gamethrow and it was instead a "strategy"

im already walking on thin ice as it is

No, that would be the ultimate form of the strategy! You just have to claim cop after. Maybe give up another teammate on N4 to string 'em along to the end. Follow me for more recipes.

[Long Con]

ALSO um, why am I naked?

[Long Con]

Im interested to see where Alison's experimental methodology leads.

How seriously do you take that?

[Long Con]

Mmm, i dont think this methodology is looking too good Alison. You've already gotten at least one read wrong.

-/-/-/-

Hi tutuu, Idk what the toughest thing ive done is. its not an easily quantifiable thing, and I guess any number of things i've done would be seen as tough or lame depending on PoV and context.

What made you decide to go with the opener you had this game?

i was misyeeted last game as mech conf town because i claimed mafia excessively and i was told that i would be yeeted again and again if i dont bend the knee

as you can see here is my response

Yeah but also there are a lot of other players in these games than you two and the rest of us literally didn't threaten you with anything and in fact I am a good time guy and I support zany schemes and gimmicks 110% so like it's all good but then the underlying bitterness taints what would be, to me, a cool and fun and daring style.

[Long Con]

[mention]tutuu[/mention] How do you plan on contributing to the scumhunt if you are claiming to be scum in every post? Will there be, like, sections to your post, where you play for real, and then do the ol' scum claim? OR you could to it sarcastically! Like "If I were pretending to be town then I'd make the case that blah blah blah..." That's not a bad way. Your thoughts?

[Long Con]

I like Alison taking the incentive to start moving the game out of the early stages with a more serous push.

wow, you’re so helpful

so who is your teammate?

i dont wish to say their name because i dont know if i can actually spin a defense for myself post-game that this wasnt an actual gamethrow and it was instead a "strategy"

im already walking on thin ice as it is

The thing about Tutuu is that i was brushing it off as silly early game play until she wasnt willing to out a buddy. I feel like town would jokingly come up with somebody they feel could play off of them, where as scum would be more afraid to out a buddy really or fake b/c the back fire is worse.

At first he smirked and said "What? That's silly," then he read the rest and half-smile nodded.

Narration by Long Con.

[Long Con]

town
tutuu (as mentioned, would be less likely to pull this shit as wolf)

Except we both know that she promised last game to do this this game. I don't think it mattered much what her role card said. Agree or disagree?

[Long Con]

I mean I was serious when I said I won't tolerate your behavior past page 5

also everyone should vote chardonnay because everything they've done and said has been incredibly forced, awkward and hedgey

I look forward to Ob!towning the daylights out of you later then

-/-/-/-

I am town reading Alison.

I like Hally trying to break up Alison and Tutuu. Not strong town points, but better then nothing.

hally's behavior is NAI.

Why is it NAI? Does this affect your judgment of chardonnay? This is a really off-handed post.

[Long Con]

@tutuu I think the issue with the conflict is that its not really helping the game at hand? This seems like a world veiw battle, not a alignment battle. Unless you have a read on alison?

maybe you could talk to me about somebody else on the roster if you want?

-/-/-/-/-

Hi MacDougall, I actully did manage to break up a T V T as mafia once and got lots of town cred D1. Alas it didnt last and i was on the chopping block D2.

May i ask for a succinct description of your playstyle?

Weird vibes.

[Long Con]

Tutuu whats your thoughts on the game outside of Alison?

mac and hally town and nanook scum but these are silly one-post reads that dont matter much

i havent thought about mac's and hally's later posts since i was preocuppied with other stuff, after i ponder about them i will let u know

Nanook is playing?

[Long Con]

Anyway... guess no one else is around. Sleepy time for me.

[MacDougall]

Long Con is legitimately open naked mafia

[Alison]

Long Con is legitimately open naked mafia

him and char have been opening it up for the past few pages. He's commented on everyone's posts but char's as well.

[tedxtr]

mac v
tutuu v
hally v
ted w
LC naked w

don't ask me to explain any of these reads; it's part of my "experimental new playstyle"

nope, still ain't got it

[tedxtr]

fake and manufactured post:

hally town
alison town
ted town
nanook scum

real and genuine post:

i feel relieved that my gambit worked. i was legit worried (even tho i didnt show it) that it would backfire and i would feel guilt towards my mafia teammate. but i have a feeling it will work, and people will townread me for this. so this makes me feel rly, rly, rly relieved, and good. life is good! its like .... its like coming out of the closet. coming out of the closet about something LGBT related about you. i feel like im dancing in the rain rn, going in circles, screaming off the top of my lungs "I AM MAFIA" and i feel FREE. and RELIEVED. and UNBURDENED.

i DO NOT have to feel bad about this. i dont need to lie anymore and put up a facade that im town. no more pretending. i can just say the truth. and the truth is beautiful.

I AM MAFIA. god i feel light. like a feather. life is good.

perhaps you would like to explain how you read me town

[tedxtr]

(what if tutuu isn’t trolling)

so I'm sort of breaking my own rule by saying this since I was explicitly trying to go for a more "read people on the first post of the game, go by gut reads, don't give explicit reasoning, play in a less logical fashion" style to see how that worked out for me (and since both the syndicate's first post read advocates are in this game I figured that would work here).

but I'll give reasoning here anyway because I'm alison enough that I can't resist. while it's probably within scum range for tutuu to do this as scum, I think this is >rand town because I do not believe that tutuu would wish to risk me attacking her/trying to policy her really early in the game if she was scum. it's much more psychologically easy to do this as town because if I kill her and she flips town she gets to feel like it wasn't her fault/that it was my tunnelling that made town lose, whereas if she flips scum it's just embarassing for her

who's the second? I only know Mac.

I used to be good at these but then I dropped it because I realised I couldn't hold the strength of the opening reads in light of new evidence, so it was a waste of time.

That comment wasn't relevant to anything but I felt like flexing.

[tedxtr]

that is a nice analysis. it is true that im afraid of embarassment. however, one fatal flaw is underestimating how much im willing to gambit and how impulsive i am in my decision-making, in case i decide that doing this will put me at zero risk of getting flipped in the first place

i have already calculated all the variables. psychoanalyzed all of you. i even know what you ate for breakfast. dont feel creeped out. its just business, kids.

i am mafia and i am going to win this game because of 2 reasons

1) what happened last game

2) nobody has seen me play mafia

sorry, just how it goes. i believe in destiny. do u?

Something tells me that you wouldn't be a hard catch, but if you're scum here, then I guess feel free to prove me wrong

[tedxtr]

alison might be town

meh, I don't like this read. They've arguably been posting non AI content up to this point.

what posts did you find townie for her?

[tedxtr]

mac is going to come into thread any minute now and prove his innocence by agreeing with all of my reads and voting LC.

nah im mafia

I buy it