The 7th Saga [END, JJJ IS A DOOFUS]

[Fatmo]

People who have played Mac before, is this just clearly town Mac to you? I tend to get suspicious of people pushing for reveals and stuff from people who obviously don't even have complete information (or as complete as others who have played the whole game) or context to weigh that decision.

[MacDougall]

ok mac town cool

if me/tutuu/ted/mac is all town that’s something. and 1612 too. then poe is like fatmo/lc/nook? but i kinda think nook is town for like no reason. so fatmo/lc? is that a thing?

Near outed yes

[Fatmo]

Why are you role hunting so hard?

Because I need to work out who to save

Here you said you are trying to figure out who to save.

Later you claimed Vig.

Which is it? Lol you're trying to hard to get me to full reveal when you've got two contradictory things here. Vigs don't save.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I told you Chardonnay was town

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Yea, I'm not doing that until others say they think that's a good idea and maybe I read a bit. We have a day. I'm not just taking your word for it because your the first person to try to pressure me into doing it.

But I'm the town leader

Are you though

Lol I gotta run now. Back later. I've already burned up a bunch of posts and there's a chance I'll actually read D1, so might as well save some posts for if I have any questions about it.

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME what are your takes. You're the only person here I've played and I can actually read you decently so talk to me about how you're seeing things whenever you get around.

Who did you replace?

What’s happening?

[Long Con]

Cass is gone, and Fatmo is here!!

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

K I think Fatmo is >rand town

I do not have an amazing read on him but

Low key think that slot is town so

[Long Con]

People who have played Mac before, is this just clearly town Mac to you? I tend to get suspicious of people pushing for reveals and stuff from people who obviously don't even have complete information (or as complete as others who have played the whole game) or context to weigh that decision.

I do like the engagement level of Joseph as compared to Day 1. Even if I don't agree with some of his assumptions, I do want to see where he's going with it.

[tutuu]

Idek who’s left to be mafia, LC/cass/alison? Sure that works

[mention]NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME[/mention] u scumread the fatmo slot earlier, are u townreading it cuz of fatmo's posts just now or is there something more to it?

ur poe still LC + 1612 slot?

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Idek who’s left to be mafia, LC/cass/alison? Sure that works

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME u scumread the fatmo slot earlier, are u townreading it cuz of fatmo's posts just now or is there something more to it?

ur poe still LC + 1612 slot?

Fatmo’s posts and I sort of like cass’ before she left, not that there was much to work with

[1612]

Okay so not vanilla town. Cool.

Mafia shoot him he's PR.

Ur weird

You should claim your entire role now tbh.

Nope. Lol I'd never reveal my role ten minutes into a game, and for me this is ten minutes into a game...plus an entire game day I haven't read and don't know the context of.

Everyone help me pressure Macmo into outing his PR

I love how Fatmo is like "oh I have to go now. I've got things to be doing." Like it isn't obvious he's just gonna go and whine to LC in scum chat about subbing into this hellscape then go shit talk in spec chat for the next several hours.

fatmo most obvious mafia of 2020 (sorry if ur town xD)

You say this, but why?

So Fatmo is probably mafia but I still vote we give him lynch immunity d2.

Also we deserved to misyeet there because we should never have yeeted someone d1 in their first syndicate game. For shame to all who voted there.

Aight I am back,

Can we like give Fatmo some breathing space? From the server I play in, we also like to give people lynch immunity on their first game but it's not even about if it's their first or not, he has like no context since he decided to take the bold move of just going straight in (town or mafia) and we just light him on fire for subbing in for someone who had like five logs and not encouraging them to read and defend but just saying "outed mafia". Even if they are mafia, it feelsbadman.

[1612]

People who have played Mac before, is this just clearly town Mac to you? I tend to get suspicious of people pushing for reveals and stuff from people who obviously don't even have complete information (or as complete as others who have played the whole game) or context to weigh that decision.

I have no idea, first time playing with him. If you look at Long Con's logs, he referenced some other Mac games that suggested it's the same and a lot different from his town plays where he articulates his thought very clearly but feel free to not look into that, I don't know if that's bad meta. I decided I wouldn't read into it.

[1612]

People who have played Mac before, is this just clearly town Mac to you? I tend to get suspicious of people pushing for reveals and stuff from people who obviously don't even have complete information (or as complete as others who have played the whole game) or context to weigh that decision.

I have no idea, first time playing with him. If you look at Long Con's logs, he referenced some other Mac games that suggested it's the same and a lot different from his town plays where he articulates his thought very clearly but feel free to not look into that, I don't know if that's bad meta. I decided I wouldn't read into it.

[1612]

Okay so not vanilla town. Cool.

Mafia shoot him he's PR.

Ur weird

You should claim your entire role now tbh.

Nope. Lol I'd never reveal my role ten minutes into a game, and for me this is ten minutes into a game...plus an entire game day I haven't read and don't know the context of.

No you should.

You're outed not VT. So you need to full claim or we can't analyse what to do correctly. You're top suspect so I wanna see if we can maybe clear you etc.

I have no idea if you are memeing but shouldn't we talk about revealing roles AFTER the night ends?? I'll assume you are memeing still and just pressuring Fatmo. (I don't even know how role claiming works in the rules tbh)

[MacDougall]

People who have played Mac before, is this just clearly town Mac to you? I tend to get suspicious of people pushing for reveals and stuff from people who obviously don't even have complete information (or as complete as others who have played the whole game) or context to weigh that decision.

I have no idea, first time playing with him. If you look at Long Con's logs, he referenced some other Mac games that suggested it's the same and a lot different from his town plays where he articulates his thought very clearly but feel free to not look into that, I don't know if that's bad meta. I decided I wouldn't read into it.

Hey we played a video mafia game together the other day

[MacDougall]

Okay so not vanilla town. Cool.

Mafia shoot him he's PR.

Ur weird

You should claim your entire role now tbh.

Nope. Lol I'd never reveal my role ten minutes into a game, and for me this is ten minutes into a game...plus an entire game day I haven't read and don't know the context of.

Everyone help me pressure Macmo into outing his PR

I love how Fatmo is like "oh I have to go now. I've got things to be doing." Like it isn't obvious he's just gonna go and whine to LC in scum chat about subbing into this hellscape then go shit talk in spec chat for the next several hours.

fatmo most obvious mafia of 2020 (sorry if ur town xD)

You say this, but why?

So Fatmo is probably mafia but I still vote we give him lynch immunity d2.

Also we deserved to misyeet there because we should never have yeeted someone d1 in their first syndicate game. For shame to all who voted there.

Aight I am back,

Can we like give Fatmo some breathing space? From the server I play in, we also like to give people lynch immunity on their first game but it's not even about if it's their first or not, he has like no context since he decided to take the bold move of just going straight in (town or mafia) and we just light him on fire for subbing in for someone who had like five logs and not encouraging them to read and defend but just saying "outed mafia". Even if they are mafia, it feelsbadman.

I already said I'd give him breathing space in the literal post you quoted.

[1612]

ohh Mac is softing a shot.... (am i allowed to say this?) okay fair enough?

[1612]

People who have played Mac before, is this just clearly town Mac to you? I tend to get suspicious of people pushing for reveals and stuff from people who obviously don't even have complete information (or as complete as others who have played the whole game) or context to weigh that decision.

I have no idea, first time playing with him. If you look at Long Con's logs, he referenced some other Mac games that suggested it's the same and a lot different from his town plays where he articulates his thought very clearly but feel free to not look into that, I don't know if that's bad meta. I decided I wouldn't read into it.

Hey we played a video mafia game together the other day

oh lmao that game was SAD! okay your video mafia is worlds apart from forum mafia that I expected. probably will not help AT ALL. I wanted to make the connection but I was like... couldn't be? and you said immunity for breathing space first but then said all those other things after so I quoted in the wrong order.

[1612]

K I think Fatmo is >rand town

I do not have an amazing read on him but

Low key think that slot is town so

Nanook : Still super hard to read. I don't know if it's your gameplay as mafia to tmi both town flips if Fatmo is town because that's a really weird way of trying to take town cred.
If it's your partner, really weird way of trying to defend them because you absolutely get sussed for defending a red flip even if it makes you look like you have no info.
So probably town because both worlds are unlikely? Anyone have thoughts on this read?

[1612]

I mean I know tedxtr is not going to like that reason to town read because it has little to no logic sooooooo..... but I mean my reasons on chard, although not the full picture, were true. I'm not going to say I'm right all the time because I think I have a reason to town read everyone except for Fatmo just because of lack of content. So I have to be wrong on someone lol.

[1612]

Ummmm [mention]tedxtr[/mention] I know you sleeping but I need to hear your thoughts on Long Con again. I'm trying to rethink my Town Reads and Scum Reads.

[Long Con]

Ummmm @tedxtr I know you sleeping but I need to hear your thoughts on Long Con again. I'm trying to rethink my Town Reads and Scum Reads.

Hey man, I'm here if you want anything.

[1612]

I don’t even know who looks good on that wagon so it literally helped with nothing.

Uhhh so it looks like chard is going to be the vote today unless they like soft pr (not sure how's that done to be honest, never played with these rules, or if the meta tells us to trust that and vote someone else ) but should we discuss what happens when
1. they flip blue
2. they flip red

1. I think sadly.... augh hally might be mafia in the second case? its weaker for the first scenario because i think they could have just pushed chard despite the logs instead of town reading them... why? It was all laid up and all of a sudden hally as mafia decides to defend chard, maybe for town cred, but that seems like a weak play from hally and they seem like a great player. yeah so actually i think if chard flips blue, that might make hally more town. BUT if they flip red. I think that might make them more mafia for defending chard with such a low town bar like ted mentioned just for contributing last minute and even then it was like quite shady surface level scum reads...

2. For uhhhh let's see I think for cass, if it flips blue or red, there is a potential mafia. I don't know why, their logs seem bandwaggony on chard which could be a hopeless or an unavoidable bus OR an easy push. Augh

3. I think for ted, uhhh let's see. I don't know, I town read him in general so... god.

I'll think about the others but those are my top three feelings on what I want to look at next depending on the flip. They might change.

ALRIGHT TEDXTR, FEAR NOT
Let's talk about this.

1. So I still think Hally is pretty pretty town on the case that it flips blue...? Like "town cred", "should've voted Long Con", nahhhh I think that's such a weak play from Hally if they are mafia and had genuine reason to sus Long Con over Chard. Also I've been town reading them on their logs in general (but again that's gut feeling)

2. I think cass doing a lazy bandwaggon is pretty mafia regardless of the flip like I said. [mention]Fatmo[/mention] If you could reply to that and take a look at the little five logs that cass provided to easy sheep people's reads on chard's entrance to the game, that'd be great. How do you feel about tedxtr's case against chard, how do you feel about me being convinced but also pointing out some gut feeling logs, how do you feel about Long Con.... not really mentioning chard (I don't know if this is actually true, let me iso his logs, i'll update with another post if false)

3. Ted... Urgh, now I want to say that you have very high partner equity with Long Con. I don't know, I want to town read you because I felt like you were tunneled on chard as town because of omgus. Chard just had lack of interaction with you in general which is why you probably thought he was lazy parking their vote on you as mafia. Yeah, you were probably biased or idk, maybe you managed to convince all of us that chard wasn't town as mafia. Regardless I want to see you push and investigate Long Con more. Because his parked vote on me was super weirdo... (not an omgus, its just unlike him I think to not gamesolve whether chard was a good vote or not and just ended with an easy "self pres" at the very end instead of convincing other people to pivot to someone else)

[1612]

Ummmm @tedxtr I know you sleeping but I need to hear your thoughts on Long Con again. I'm trying to rethink my Town Reads and Scum Reads.

Hey man, I'm here if you want anything.

OH POG Hello. Let me refresh my mind what you said on Day 1 and we can talk. Gimme a sec

[1612]

Ummmm @tedxtr I know you sleeping but I need to hear your thoughts on Long Con again. I'm trying to rethink my Town Reads and Scum Reads.

Hey man, I'm here if you want anything.

Joke : I want your role card

[1612]

Hard claim vigilante. I'm shooting LC if Fatmo doesn't claim his PR.

Hey hey, lets's... all just calm down and try to figure this out...

People who have played Mac before, is this just clearly town Mac to you? I tend to get suspicious of people pushing for reveals and stuff from people who obviously don't even have complete information (or as complete as others who have played the whole game) or context to weigh that decision.

I do like the engagement level of Joseph as compared to Day 1. Even if I don't agree with some of his assumptions, I do want to see where he's going with it.

Instant pocket, lol.

Yeah I don't know man I feel like, like I said above, you didn't seem to have that much game solve energy to solve chard's alignment. I mean like you said here, you had some involvement. But I don't know you sticking to the Alison vote, I didn't particularlly love like Hally was poking you for at EoD. It seemed like LOTS of your logs were defending how you played compared to other scum/town games on this site and rather trying to solve the condemn yesterday (But tbf you were being voted up with two votes so I guess you had to use your logs to defend but why not self pres vote sooner or why avoid talking about chard more?). I don't know can you explain how you feel about Hally after the quote below and how you feel about my town read reason on Hally based on the flip above?

could we possibly kill lc next day? cass also looks sus given the only thing they did was piggyback onto the chard push and then peace out for the whole phase

Reading cassowary's ISO I can actually see them as scum as well. His entry in the thread read like a scum that struggled to get the pulse of the thread. Typical "I don't see why..." ; "I think they're forced" and then doesn't explore it and doesn't vote chardonnay.

Cassowary's ISO is pretty lean. Why is it that he's a *scum* struggling to get the pulse of the thread, and not just a *player* trying to do the same? I doubt that he's m/m with chard, but if chard is town, then I'd be more suspicious of cass for his chard thoughts, which were derivative at that point.

^ I'd be more willing to chop chard than cass today to figure that out.

this looks like trying to chain chard’s elimination into cass’

Wow.

I mean one might even say that "this looks like trying to chain chard’s elimination into cass’" from Hally could be tmi that chard flips blue but I don't know, I think they (as town) honestly thought you were the better vote...

[1612]

OH MAH GOD THINGS ARE SO INTENSE WITH A MISCONDEMN, THINGS ARE GETTING SPICY FOLKS

[1612]

Also I don't know if I should be saying this since it might be bad meta. But I think the lack of upset or AtE from you is telling after chard's flip. You seemed kinda indifferent on a DEAD villager and I can feel like you are smiling for suriving yet another day. Like you said, self pres. But like uh no, I want to see SOME fake surprise of chard flipping blue because there was A LOT of back and forth between me and tedxtr on why he could be town or could be mafia. You kinda seemed like you were on the background for that....?

[Long Con]

First, well, I've been playing Mafia for like 15 years and I have never once heard the term "logs", so it's really weirding me out. I get that it's a regular term in your country but no one says that here. I say this in the friendliest way possible, not to make you feel like an outsider.

[Long Con]

Also I don't know if I should be saying this since it might be bad meta. But I think the lack of upset or AtE from you is telling after chard's flip. You seemed kinda indifferent on a DEAD villager and I can feel like you are smiling for suriving yet another day. Like you said, self pres. But like uh no, I want to see SOME fake surprise of chard flipping blue because there was A LOT of back and forth between me and tedxtr on why he could be town or could be mafia. You kinda seemed like you were on the background for that....?

I used to say "RIP <dead player>" all the time, until I started getting suspected sometimes for it. Now I don't do that anymore. Although I probably apologize when it's an old friend I mischop. It sucks that chard was not scum, but better him than me. I don't have any "fake surprise" to give you, sorry.

[1612]

First, well, I've been playing Mafia for like 15 years and I have never once heard the term "logs", so it's really weirding me out. I get that it's a regular term in your country but no one says that here. I say this in the friendliest way possible, not to make you feel like an outsider.

oh lol, that's okay its what im used to i'll just say your isos or something from now on

What do you think about Hally? Town Mafia?

[1612]

Also I don't know if I should be saying this since it might be bad meta. But I think the lack of upset or AtE from you is telling after chard's flip. You seemed kinda indifferent on a DEAD villager and I can feel like you are smiling for suriving yet another day. Like you said, self pres. But like uh no, I want to see SOME fake surprise of chard flipping blue because there was A LOT of back and forth between me and tedxtr on why he could be town or could be mafia. You kinda seemed like you were on the background for that....?

I used to say "RIP <dead player>" all the time, until I started getting suspected sometimes for it. Now I don't do that anymore. Although I probably apologize when it's an old friend I mischop. It sucks that chard was not scum, but better him than me. I don't have any "fake surprise" to give you, sorry.

Yeah that was a dumb question. What I really wanted to ask was, did you think Chard was going to flip red? If red, why not vote them sooner, If blue, why not defend them. Well clearly you thought that they were scummy based on "i'd put them on the chopping block to solve cass" but hmmmm, yeah I felt a lack of presence or involvement in the vote decision besides that quote.

But yeah, urgh what do you think about the people who pushed/defended chard?

[Long Con]

1. So I still think Hally is pretty pretty town on the case that it flips blue...? Like "town cred", "should've voted Long Con", nahhhh I think that's such a weak play from Hally if they are mafia and had genuine reason to sus Long Con over Chard. Also I've been town reading them on their logs in general (but again that's gut feeling)

Is this the reason you think Hally is town based on chard's flip? If Hally is mafia, then she knew chard was a) a town flip, and b) the most likely one to be chopped. Suspecting me over chard would be the play to make, and it follows her earlier stated intent to vote me.

[Long Con]

Also I don't know if I should be saying this since it might be bad meta. But I think the lack of upset or AtE from you is telling after chard's flip. You seemed kinda indifferent on a DEAD villager and I can feel like you are smiling for suriving yet another day. Like you said, self pres. But like uh no, I want to see SOME fake surprise of chard flipping blue because there was A LOT of back and forth between me and tedxtr on why he could be town or could be mafia. You kinda seemed like you were on the background for that....?

I used to say "RIP <dead player>" all the time, until I started getting suspected sometimes for it. Now I don't do that anymore. Although I probably apologize when it's an old friend I mischop. It sucks that chard was not scum, but better him than me. I don't have any "fake surprise" to give you, sorry.

Yeah that was a dumb question. What I really wanted to ask was, did you think Chard was going to flip red? If red, why not vote them sooner, If blue, why not defend them. Well clearly you thought that they were scummy based on "i'd put them on the chopping block to solve cass" but hmmmm, yeah I felt a lack of presence or involvement in the vote decision besides that quote.

But yeah, urgh what do you think about the people who pushed/defended chard?

I'm not doing any deep dives on Night 1, there's time for that, but I do want to look more at Hally for above reasons. This was a town/town elimination, so I'd be more suspicious of players who voted off either of us. Was Nanook still on you?

[Long Con]

First, well, I've been playing Mafia for like 15 years and I have never once heard the term "logs", so it's really weirding me out. I get that it's a regular term in your country but no one says that here. I say this in the friendliest way possible, not to make you feel like an outsider.

oh lol, that's okay its what im used to i'll just say your isos or something from now on

Or you could keep it up and ease the word into our lexicons, and stand back smugly when we all start saying it.

In a similar vein.. you guys call town blue and mafia red? We use green as the town colour generally.

[chardonnay]

Apologies for missing EoD due to work. I would've been here if i could've.

It was nice meeting more of this forum's core player base. Hopefully i'll see you around!

Good luck town!

[tutuu]

sorry chardo

[Long Con]

Please play again. I have a Spider-verse Mafia coming sort of soon I think.

[1612]

1. So I still think Hally is pretty pretty town on the case that it flips blue...? Like "town cred", "should've voted Long Con", nahhhh I think that's such a weak play from Hally if they are mafia and had genuine reason to sus Long Con over Chard. Also I've been town reading them on their logs in general (but again that's gut feeling)

Is this the reason you think Hally is town based on chard's flip? If Hally is mafia, then she knew chard was a) a town flip, and b) the most likely one to be chopped. Suspecting me over chard would be the play to make, and it follows her earlier stated intent to vote me.

Yeah I mean looks like you both did the same thing

Paraphrased
Long Con : "I think chard is a good vote, if it flips blue, it puts sus on cass for bw'ing on that reason" -> you knew chard was a) a town flip, and b) the most likely one to be chopped.
Hally : "I think Long Con is setting up for a double kill and knows chard is flipping town" -> they knew chard was a) a town flip, and b)the most likely one to be chopped

But between you and Hally, here's my reason why your scenario is more believable to be scum than Hally's:
I feel like you didn't actually sus chard. again lack of involvement in solving his alignment compared to ted's.
Hally, they didn't even say let's vote up chardonnay at the middle of Day 1 after chard made a come back and they even went as far to say :

char seems fine to me now that he’s gotten into the game. i’m not feeling the sus on him anymore

Alison was town and 1612 is also town.
I can't remember any cassowary posts or opinions.
Chardonnay seemed bad but then did something that made me townread them and then Hally echoed that townread in a way that made me think she is also town.
Long Con is mafia cuz everyone says he is.
Nanook is probably town but I have no reason to say it.
tedxtr is probably town. Like 80%.
Tutuu is just town cuz she is.

God reads only here.

which me and Mac agreed with. I honestly think that a chard flip could have been avoided if tedxtr's tinfoil hat didn't convince me otherwise ( not putting blame of course )
but yeah. You see how that b) doesn't really hold strong for Hally? I think they just genuinely just wanted you to be flipped and because of the a) + b) scenario that you have just described, and there wasn't any open wolfing that you have described. The order of the votes seem like Hally has no agenda and they are just going straight for who they sus. You on the other hand, if you think cass was sus for jumping on the bw on chard, why not point that out and just go cass first or show interest in solving their alignment?

I don't know can someone double check my read on this situation. Am I tunneled?

[1612]

Please play again [mention]chardonnay[/mention] uwu, i want to see your so called ob!towning evolve late game another time!

[1612]

Oh man I seem super partnery with Hally, and you know what I think they are town so I am fine with this. [mention]MacDougall[/mention] , you said you first town read Hally for echoing the townread on chard with you after chard gave a good chunk of active logs.

So Hally is mafia.

Was that a reaction test? You also said that several people sussed Hally but I think I only remember three people, tedxtr, Long Con, and myself (but that was only because I was suspicious of them defending chard for apparently a low-bar-town reason criticized by tedxtr but now that it flips blue, I dislike Hally less).

[1612]

Oh man I seem super partnery with Hally, and you know what I think they are town so I am fine with this. @MacDougall , you said you first town read Hally for echoing the townread on chard with you after chard gave a good chunk of active logs.

So Hally is mafia.

Was that a reaction test? You also said that several people sussed Hally but I think I only remember three people, tedxtr, Long Con, and myself (but that was only because I was suspicious of them defending chard for apparently a low-bar-town reason criticized by tedxtr but now that it flips blue, I dislike Hally less).

This means that I suspected a pair between them but not anymore. Like I stated I REALLY fail to see what Hally gains from defending chard-town here as mafia.
Also I am running out of night logs, must.... stop....

[Long Con]

You see how that b) doesn't really hold strong for Hally? I think they just genuinely just wanted you to be flipped and because of the a) + b) scenario that you have just described, and there wasn't any open wolfing that you have described. The order of the votes seem like Hally has no agenda and they are just going straight for who they sus. You on the other hand, if you think cass was sus for jumping on the bw on chard, why not point that out and just go cass first or show interest in solving their alignment?

I don't know can someone double check my read on this situation. Am I tunneled?

That's up to you. Although for the record, I called out Alison as openwolfing, not Hally. I did show interest in solving Cass' alignment. They just never showed up again to move that forward.

[Long Con]

This means that I suspected a pair between them but not anymore. Like I stated I REALLY fail to see what Hally gains from defending chard-town here as mafia.

You can't think of one thing...?

[1612]

You see how that b) doesn't really hold strong for Hally? I think they just genuinely just wanted you to be flipped and because of the a) + b) scenario that you have just described, and there wasn't any open wolfing that you have described. The order of the votes seem like Hally has no agenda and they are just going straight for who they sus. You on the other hand, if you think cass was sus for jumping on the bw on chard, why not point that out and just go cass first or show interest in solving their alignment?

I don't know can someone double check my read on this situation. Am I tunneled?

That's up to you. Although for the record, I called out Alison as openwolfing, not Hally. I did show interest in solving Cass' alignment. They just never showed up again to move that forward.

This means that I suspected a pair between them but not anymore. Like I stated I REALLY fail to see what Hally gains from defending chard-town here as mafia.

You can't think of one thing...?

I mean... town cred??? But like.... such an awkward and ineffective one if they are mafia. I really don't see the agenda from Hally based off their pushes on you.
You say they was setting up a second vote after realizing the likely vote was on chan but they seemed super CONVINCED that it was more likely you. Yeah I think the town read on char was kind of all of a sudden but idk, i really don't see an agenda from them.

And nope I really do need some second pair of eyes on this. I don't want to pick wrong on you and it was Hally all along and then in lylo I seem super paired with them lmao.

[Long Con]

Super CONVINCED... she brought it up once? How can you declare a lack of agenda when she almost immediately brought up Cass as a wolf right after the lynch?

[MacDougall]

Oh man I seem super partnery with Hally, and you know what I think they are town so I am fine with this. @MacDougall , you said you first town read Hally for echoing the townread on chard with you after chard gave a good chunk of active logs.

So Hally is mafia.

Was that a reaction test? You also said that several people sussed Hally but I think I only remember three people, tedxtr, Long Con, and myself (but that was only because I was suspicious of them defending chard for apparently a low-bar-town reason criticized by tedxtr but now that it flips blue, I dislike Hally less).

That's several.

It wasn't intended to be a reaction test but he reaction made me drop it all the same.

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Well, now its just two~ I town read Hally, well actually I guess it's still three if you sus Hally along with Long Con and tedxtr.

Well actually, I haven't heard [mention]tedxtr[/mention]'s reads yet on Hally post flip, how do you feel about my reads on them / in general with the "KNAWLIDGE" that char was town? Has it changed?

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Super CONVINCED... she brought it up once? How can you declare a lack of agenda when she almost immediately brought up Cass as a wolf right after the lynch?

I don't know man... it seems like their hard push on you that they brought up multiple times when you could have absolutely been the vote seems like they DON"T have the agenda that you described on chardonnay. Also chardonnay seemed like strong town or strong mafia as the game went along. I feel like Hally would have fear voted Chardonnay because they are a strong player that would eventually been town read in late game, like they promised. But nope, she was pretty insistent and consistent.








ehh I will point out that I don't like Hally not talking about char anymore after tedxtr has brought up this whole case.... Wish there was more back and forth convo between hally and tedxtr debating char's alignment. I could honestly see anything.

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OMG I DID ALL THESE HALLY QUOTES AND ACCIDENTALLY DID [ img ] INSTEAD OF [ quote ] SMH