The 7th Saga [END, JJJ IS A DOOFUS]

[Hally]

LC is only mafia with Tedxtr
Tedxtr can be mafia with LC and Fatmo
Fatmo can be mafia with LC and Tedxtr

Fatmo and Tedxtr?

I don't think it's Hally beacuse I don't see who her teammates are.

I don't think it's LC because I think he has actually tried to solve the game tbh.

I'll probably just lose to Alison/1612's slot if they're mafia.

I'm gonna vote Ted here.

not fatmo. hes pure and totally unlike his scum game

[MacDougall]

I am pretty confident that Nanook is town. His reactions to Hally feel legit and feel like how Nanook reacts to people playing the way she is. I've been on the other end of it before.

LC doesn't seem town in the slightest and if not for the RB claim from Fatmo would be push button today.

1612 is thread spewed town probably.

So we have LC who has been cornered and lolcatting the entire game like most mafia do + one of Fatmo, Hally or Tedxtr.

Find the two town in Fatmo, Hally and Tedxtr. Win the game.

i should be clearly unaligned from lc from the way both of us have pushed each other this game. i also don’t think fatmo is scum

can we talk about ted? is he out of his scum range?

Outside of claiming depression and then using the ATE to try to get townread he's 100% lock mafia.

[Hally]

im voting with mac. im confident hes town now

[VOTE: ted] aubergine

[Hally]

its just ted/lc

mac/1612/nook/fatmo is pure town. this is it

[Long Con]

its just ted/lc

mac/1612/nook/fatmo is pure town. this is it

This is not it.

[VOTE: tedxtr] aubergine

I think he did perspective slip.

[MacDougall]

If it's not LC it's just Fatmo tho

If it's not Ted it's Hally

[MacDougall]

if it's not and it's Hally it can be Fatmo still

Reeee

[Fatmo]

If it's not LC it's just Fatmo tho

Lol why would I give reasons to help potentially town clear two different towns if I'm scum from town Mac's POV? And doing so by claiming a role blocking power that's so bizarre I'd never even imagine it.

[Fatmo]

its just ted/lc

mac/1612/nook/fatmo is pure town. this is it

This is not it.

[VOTE: tedxtr] aubergine

I think he did perspective slip.

Where?

[Hally]

its just ted/lc

mac/1612/nook/fatmo is pure town. this is it

This is not it.

[VOTE: tedxtr] aubergine

I think he did perspective slip.

how? where?

why are you voting ted with me? i thought im mafia to you?

[Hally]

mac its not fatmo

if you tr nook just sponge his read there

then you’re left with me/ted/lc, and im clearly not teamed with either of them. meanwhile ted has been trying to shield and deflect from lc all game

[MacDougall]

mac its not fatmo

if you tr nook just sponge his read there

then you’re left with me/ted/lc, and im clearly not teamed with either of them. meanwhile ted has been trying to shield and deflect from lc all game

yeah so I am just talking about if it's not them worlds

[Hally]

ugh but why would lc get on ted about this slip now if they’re teamed. like can’t lc and ted just keep pushing me if they’re the team since nook will vote with them

[MacDougall]

ugh but why would lc get on ted about this slip now if they’re teamed. like can’t lc and ted just keep pushing me if they’re the team since nook will vote with them

so you're having a meltdown over the possibility that mafia teammates are distancing?

clearly in this game they are doing that unless 1612 is mafia, everyone has pushed on everyone

the only worlds where distancing isn't at play are worlds like Mac/Nanook, 1612/anyone, Fatmo/Nanook.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Why are we freaking out we’ve got two tries to get it right yeah

I don’t think we’re gonna be wrong twice in a row

[Long Con]

I'm pretty sure I posted it earlier.

[Hally]

ugh but why would lc get on ted about this slip now if they’re teamed. like can’t lc and ted just keep pushing me if they’re the team since nook will vote with them

so you're having a meltdown over the possibility that mafia teammates are distancing?

clearly in this game they are doing that unless 1612 is mafia, everyone has pushed on everyone

the only worlds where distancing isn't at play are worlds like Mac/Nanook, 1612/anyone, Fatmo/Nanook.

i wouldn’t say im having a meltdown but yes i am confused why lc would bus ted here instead of just voting me out, which i feel like they have the votes to do. like lc cannot win solo if he busses ted here so what are they doing

[Long Con]

ugh but why would lc get on ted about this slip now if they’re teamed. like can’t lc and ted just keep pushing me if they’re the team since nook will vote with them

so you're having a meltdown over the possibility that mafia teammates are distancing?

clearly in this game they are doing that unless 1612 is mafia, everyone has pushed on everyone

the only worlds where distancing isn't at play are worlds like Mac/Nanook, 1612/anyone, Fatmo/Nanook.

i wouldn’t say im having a meltdown but yes i am confused why lc would bus ted here instead of just voting me out, which i feel like they have the votes to do. like lc cannot win solo if he busses ted here so what are they doing

Get it out of your head that I am scum here! Please. I'm sorry that I don't exude whatever aura that you're clearing your clears for, but when do I ever give you that feeling?

[Long Con]

Hally's not giving me any town pings, this is uncharted territory. This game's wolfy as shit man.

haha i love your paranoia, real or not. i'm having a lot of fun XDDD

Why do you think it's paranoia? Do you have her as lock town status or something?

Nope. It's uhhh going down a bit tbh umm idk I'd still say she is light blue but more red if this flips red, but I was referring to this comment. I feel like everyone is super town and you think everyone is wolfy haha.

I either am on a very right track or you all are and to a contrarian like me, this makes me feel good about my reads, especially when I look at reads and go "wtf am I looking at?"

Just looking back over some posts, and I found this one for tedxtr. Just felt a little funny about the way he said "you all". Perspective slip?

This was the post...

[Hally]

that’s not a perspective slip at all

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Unfortunately I haven’t had time to properly count posts to determine your post caps. I’d appreciate if folks could check their own ISOs, count their posts made already on Day 2, and then police themselves up to 100 max. Honor system. Thanks y’all.

[mention]1612[/mention]
[mention]Fatmo[/mention]
[mention]Hally[/mention]
[mention]Long Con[/mention]
[mention]MacDougall[/mention]
[mention]NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME[/mention]
[mention]tedxtr[/mention]

[Hally]

why is this game impossible

ted/lc doesn’t feel right to me. it makes absolutely no sense for lc to bus ted here off this “slip” that’s like a nothing burger. what is the plan there. do they think lc is going the distance without ted. like idgi

[Long Con]

I'm at 25. 26 now.

[1612]

UH GUYS KEEP UP THE MORALE WE GOT THIS IN THE BAG LIKE TUTU SAID.

With that being said, holy moly let me give some reads. I see a lot of town on town violence based off my reads which is why the morale probably is going down the drain.
Can we just remember to have FUN, cheesy as it is, that's what we're here for! I've seen far too many voice games from my server where post-game just tastes stale due to tension.
Lots of investment in this game from a lot of good players, let's make sure it ends off on a good note, town or mafia win.

Hally - I have no fucking clue how you guys are pushing them so much. Can we PLEASE pivot to Long Con to clear Hally please please please??? I'm sorry but their frustration of not being able to find the pair is NOT crumbling mafia failing to find genuine scummy reasons, cmon. Por Favor!

LongCon - buddy, I feel like you just holy moly, I have this whole case against you and every response you gave seemed like an excuse. I am sorry but I think you are MAFIA. You also townread tedxtr and now you vote him up and once again I just feel a lack of.... interest and unknown attitude with your votes. It all SCREAMS self-pres. I Must believe you are mafia here or else I really don't know what I'll do.

Tedxtr - People have found several pairs with you and oh man I feel like your emotion of seeing the chard flip was super genuine. But I do agree that there is a potential pair between you two and Long Con. I felt like you got pretty defensive when I pointed that out even though I mentioned it was a level one read and I thought you were towny anyways. I really don't think you should be the vote today though because that really throws my town core + tutu's town core out the window. Please give a beautiful case against Long Con like you did for chard thank you. Fwiw, I do love how you thought that Long Con was a great goldmine of information. That... doesn't seem like partner on partner bus unless you are really sealing in the deal for the town cred.

Mac - Man oh man, good player right here. No wonder you played so confidently, it was because you were one shot doctor which I fully believe. Great save, unfortunate results. Surgery did not go well. I town read you a lot now, everything about your logs seems super towny. THIS is the content that I was looking forward to when Long Con mentioned your past town game with really well thought out logs. I loved your analysis on potential pairs, either forum players are fricking great at giving fake worlds as mafia or you are bloody town.

Fatmo - with that being said, ehhh I'm sorry but I'm not fully convinced on the fact that you are a roleblocker town. I also don't like you throwing shade on Mac when there were MANY other people who sussed you but you decide to throw shade on the pr doctor claim who seems pretty towny to me. I don't know man. I don't trust you yet, I still feel like you could be potential strongman on tutu or mafia roleblocker. I have no idea. Probably won't vote you today though. I think you might be paired with Long Con based off purely the fact that you might have been being set up for a bus after chard's flip.

Nanook - I don't know why you aren't working with us in a group game of communication, don't have much else to say.

what if you actually explained your vote or like literally anything else beyond the bare minimum
What if you weren’t an asshole

:/

[MacDougall]

Hally town
Char town
1612 town
Ted town
Tutuu town

Gamesolve

these are some terrible reads

[mention]tedxtr[/mention] so which of these reads are terrible exactly? Is it the two that flipped town or one of the other three?

[tedxtr]

You guys are absolutely ridiculous. How the fuck am I ever scum here?

Why do I kill tutuu who has been in my pocket for the entire game? Why the fuck did everybody switch to me within a matter of a single page?

I strongly believe Hally is mafia now, and I was right about sensing her intentions. She was trying to push me after seeing my Mac read probably, and the fact that Mac and Fatmo said I’m in PoE made her pull the trigger on the vote because she’s PoE’d and it’s perhaps her only chance at survival.

She is not her town self. Her reads are fluctuating depending on what’s the thread consensus and is fighting to not get isolated in a box.

I don’t even know how to defend myself against having partners, like how do I even look remotely paired with LC? I never “hard defended LC”, I had a pretty confident scum read in chard and LC’s iso wasn’t scum indicative, it was just mixed and not townie at most. I won’t fucking switch when I have the Great Wall of China and ACTUAL reasons to be on chardonnay.

This whole thing is stupid primarily because nobody is even pushing me as scum for my own reasoning, but mainly as me being paired with someone which sketches me out and is completely agenda’d. I am oozing towniness, I posted at fucking 4AM in the morning trying to figure shit out and then I wake up to 4 people having suspicion on me.

LC’s vote on me verges on straight up lolcatting, how the fuck is that ever a slip? I said “you all” because I was the only one that had an opinion that was not consensus. The thing is, your guys’ suspicion on me is so bad to the point that I’m not even sure if this guy is straight up outed wolf or a villager, because you all make such terrible votes that I can’t fathom it. Like that’s how bad you are reading me right now.

[tedxtr]

Hally town
Char town
1612 town
Ted town
Tutuu town

Gamesolve

these are some terrible reads

@tedxtr so which of these reads are terrible exactly? Is it the two that flipped town or one of the other three?

Hally, Chardonnay, tutuu

Neither of them were in any range. What the fuck are you wanting to do with this post anyway? If you’re gonna push me, square up and bring actual evidence. I’m not geeting yeeted here.

[tedxtr]

The poll is worthy of a chuckle. Unbelievable.

[VOTE: LC ] aubergine

[tedxtr]

1612, I’m going to walk you through an exercise.

You have invested hours upon hours in this game. You are town. You are top posting. You are universally town read and when you wake up, 4 people express suspicion on you, 2 of which are in your PoE. The case is “you are paired with LC”. The thing is, you don’t even have TMI. How would I need to react when seeing such silly and agenda-d pushes? How am I supposed to defend myself? I know I’m not paired with ANYONE so the simple fact that i’m being pushed solely based on a pairing is very scummy to me. How would you react? What am I supposed to do in this situation?

To me it’s pretty obvious that I’m not paired with LC, but how tf am I supposed to prove a negative?

[tedxtr]

I bet you that you have never been pushed as town before simply because of a pair, when from your perspective you are the easiest town read, so I don’t even know what you’re expecting right now.

I don’t do well with pressure on me as either alignment and the fact that this is probably a scum push as well and nobody is saying anything is just infuriating.

Like you actually think Hally is townier than me as well lmao

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

[nanook has a post cap of 130 today]


I’ll look at this ted stuff later my kid just woke up which means it’s that glorious time of day where I briefly have the bed and pillows all to myself. Hallelujah!

[1612]

Hallelujah!

And absolutely tedxtr so we flip Long Con first? Can you do a scum analysis on Long Con or maybe read my logs sussing him and if you think it's substantial?

[1612]

Why are we freaking out we’ve got two tries to get it right yeah

I don’t think we’re gonna be wrong twice in a row

I think we all need to hit here or our morale will go even deeper down the drain. I doubt it's going to be a mafia sweep either but I'd prefer wasting our miscondemn on d3

[1612]

Hally town
Char town
1612 town
Ted town
Tutuu town

Gamesolve

I think Ted was just unhappy with the game state of no one giving actual evidence or using logs to game solve. The reads are likely all true but I think Ted was just referring to how you gave no explanation because it was making the town reads too accessible. Could you reconsider flipping Long Con over Ted?

these are some terrible reads

@tedxtr so which of these reads are terrible exactly? Is it the two that flipped town or one of the other three?

[1612]

Hally town
Char town
1612 town
Ted town
Tutuu town

Gamesolve

these are some terrible reads

@tedxtr so which of these reads are terrible exactly? Is it the two that flipped town or one of the other three?

Oop idk what happened.

I think Ted was just unhappy with the game state of no one giving actual evidence or using logs to game solve. The reads are likely all true but I think Ted was just referring to how you gave no explanation because it was making the town reads too accessible. Could you reconsider flipping Long Con over Ted?

[1612]

I think uh tedxtr who used to be the town core a few pages back, if he flips blue, we get like no info and we fall into even more disarray. Long Con has some juicyyyy info I think even if it flips blue.

[Long Con]

What kind of info will my blue flip give, exactly?

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Lmao that’s the “slip” ???

Is this...a real read ???

[1612]

What kind of info will my blue flip give, exactly?

I totally expected this kind of response from you as I was writing that btw. There's a lot going around surrounding you I feel like. I think your alignment really solves two people, Hally and tedxtr. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you were asking the question sarcastically because I'm pretty sure you are self-aware of the massive info that your flip can give. I personally think it'll be red and even then the game will still be a bit hard to decipher.

[1612]

Yeah I don't know tedxtr. I don't know what you mean by

I strongly believe Hally is mafia now, and I was right about sensing her intentions.

but I do not believe your tinfoil on Hally. I felt like your tinfoil was much more genuine on chard which is why I'm not scumreading you for that ( I don't know why you keep bringing that up, I told you multiple times that I felt that it was a good wrong read ) but I really don't see it on Hally. They townread you on Day 1 when you gave a lot of logs after chard gave his blurb. I really don't see the agenda that you all see on Hally.

Also I'm also kinda weirded out that you vote Long Con after saying "strongly believe" Hally, "not like their town play" and then after that you just park your vote on Long Con. Maybe it's because you saw that I town read Hally and you figure that Long Con is your best bet to self pres over Hally. But, Deja vu. You did this on Day 1 as well where you were "very tempted" to vote Hally but parked your voted on chard. But you also said you had the wall of china evidence against chard which again I believe to be genuine but yeah you see my tinfoil on you? You're not the vote for me but hey as long as you see it.

[1612]

So in a nutshell, my pair is Fatmo and Long Con. I'm saying this is a town on town sus.

[1612]

What kind of info will my blue flip give, exactly?

What kind of info will tedxtr's blue flip give, exactly? You are red. Easy, I town read ted more than you, let's switch up the order.

[Hally]

ok i don’t want ted anymore. back to thinking he’s town. also ted/lc doesn’t make sense to me and if it is that i’d like to flip lc first because ted is townier

[VOTE: lc] aubergine

i also feel like i shouldn’t clear nook for being frustrating and calling me an asshole so im just keeping him in my poe until he does something towny and idc how much he snarks me for it

[1612]

That's what i'm talking about!!!! Lets gooooo bye bye long con

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

The fact of the matter is your read or push on me is borderline irrelevant atp Hally, I know how to help Mac find me and I believe he has, which makes it unlikely I die while he’s alive, and that’s good enough for this stage of the game.

[Hally]

ok i’ll just sit here then

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Idk dude, I’m not good at getting widely townread without mechanics, but I’m pretty OK at figuring out who needs to be able to find me and helping them do so.

I’m sure it’s annoying but it’s better than just letting myself die kek

[Hally]

why do you care if i find you if you think im mafia

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Uh

I literally just said I don’t...? Atm I really only care if mac townreads me, regardless of his alignment...if he’s mafia I think he has to townread me rn, if he’s town I think I’ve made myself findable to him...and if he townreads me it’s unlikely that I die today.

So yeah. Your read/push on me isn’t something I care about as far as fulfilling my town duty to not die easily goes, I only care about it in the sense that I think the way you’ve handled your read on me has been fairly scummy.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

And I don’t know how you read anything I’ve said today and come away thinking “nanook is trying to get me to townread him” tbh