Escape From Russia [GAME OVER]

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Also you’re British yeah? Or do I just have that in my head cause of your avatar

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I’m not trying to interrogate you lmao I just have questions and don’t have the patience to doll them out one by one rather than at whatever time I think of them

[Ash Lael]

Also you’re British yeah? Or do I just have that in my head cause of your avatar

I'm Australian.

I probably won't do any meta-diving.

In terms of confidence level, there's the inside view and the outside view, right? From the outside view I understand I often have bad, overconfident reads. But from the inside, when I really lock onto a read I can get ultra convinced of it to the point I can't really comprehend being wrong. As my presence in this game attests (I was so sure Dya was scum...)

So yeah. Expect me to be slightly above rand in accuracy but to talk like I've seen everyone's role cards.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Also you’re British yeah? Or do I just have that in my head cause of your avatar

I'm Australian.

I probably won't do any meta-diving.

In terms of confidence level, there's the inside view and the outside view, right? From the outside view I understand I often have bad, overconfident reads. But from the inside, when I really lock onto a read I can get ultra convinced of it to the point I can't really comprehend being wrong. As my presence in this game attests (I was so sure Dya was scum...)

So yeah. Expect me to be slightly above rand in accuracy but to talk like I've seen everyone's role cards.

Ah I owe you an apology then lmao, my sincere regrets about thinking you could possibly be a Brit


Uh yeah that’s fair, I’m mostly just trying to see how you plan to go about digesting this game. I don’t usually do research on more than a player or two a game when I’m playing somewhere new, if even that, so I can’t knock the approach. I’ll probably treat your reads as largely rand on the people you haven’t played with before tbh, but most people (myself included!) have reads that are largely close to rand, so that’s not a knock at all

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Vulgard stop memeing in scum chat and meme here instead

[Vulgard]

I have a question. Is it normal for people on this site to claim mafia as town? I’m playing my first game here.

On principle, I scumread Hally, ted and tutuu already, because they all claimed mafia and I don’t like that.

Tutuu’s followup where she claims cop instead doesn’t make me feel better about her slot; instead, it makes me think she’s mafia, who thinks that these claims are Funny and Towny. They are not.

Hally’s post that they were being scummy on purpose reads like a mafia excuse. I do not buy it it. This is still a mafia read.

Light townread on Ash Lael for his take on NANOOK. I think it was a good take, and I like the way it was phrased. Concise, to the point, no unnecessary flair, no hedging or doubt.

Post #137 by Hally contains some useful information if Hally’s mafia. Namely, it spews Michelle town in that world. I don’t like either of the takes on Michelle even without my scumread on Hally; they feel quite forced, and the first one comes across as written in bad faith. “Oh, I was totally being scummy on purpose and they ignored it, so they are mafia for ignoring my scummy self.”

The fact it is prefaced by “at the risk of jumping the gun” is also the type of hedge I read as mafia indicative. It preemptively establishes that “the person writing the post can be wrong, and that you should consider that if you kill Michelle and she flips town.”

I also don’t like Hally’s later townread on Michelle, because it feels forced. I don’t mind the progression change nearly as much as I do mind the reasoning behind the read. “She made a read on me involving me posting a spoiler, which is towny, so I will read you town now.” It doesn’t sound genuine to me.

You could disregard my mafia reads if it is common to claim mafia here, but I think tutuu and Hally have both crossed into “mafia even outside of their mafia claims” territory.

Ash Lael is legitimately my only townread so far and even that one is light. In fact, while writing this post, I think I should shift him back to null, because my reason for townreading him is rather thin to begin with.

Arete still has not posted anything outside of their mafia range. Unsurprisingly, since they have barely posted substantial stuff.

Off-Topic: Looks like Hally is in the same club of mafia where Arete belongs as well. “People who were in Champs but still call themselves bad at mafia for some reason.” You guys are good, and I’m going to treat you with respect of your play within the game. Which means, no easy clears. Have fun, Hally, the one who did not want to feel pressured

[Vulgard]

This is the post where I would place a naked vote on Hally and call it a day, but apparently it's day 0 (the concept is novel to me) and we can't vote. Unfortunate.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Vulgard stop memeing in scum chat and meme here instead

Nvm you’re town

[Vulgard]

Vulgard stop memeing in scum chat and meme here instead

I'm honestly glad I randed town during my first game here. It would be rather stressful to rand mafia during my first game on a new site, even if I prefer to be mafia.

[Ash Lael]

I have a question. Is it normal for people on this site to claim mafia as town? I’m playing my first game here.

On principle, I scumread Hally, ted and tutuu already, because they all claimed mafia and I don’t like that.

Tutuu’s followup where she claims cop instead doesn’t make me feel better about her slot; instead, it makes me think she’s mafia, who thinks that these claims are Funny and Towny. They are not.

Hally’s post that they were being scummy on purpose reads like a mafia excuse. I do not buy it it. This is still a mafia read.

Light townread on Ash Lael for his take on NANOOK. I think it was a good take, and I like the way it was phrased. Concise, to the point, no unnecessary flair, no hedging or doubt.

Post #137 by Hally contains some useful information if Hally’s mafia. Namely, it spews Michelle town in that world. I don’t like either of the takes on Michelle even without my scumread on Hally; they feel quite forced, and the first one comes across as written in bad faith. “Oh, I was totally being scummy on purpose and they ignored it, so they are mafia for ignoring my scummy self.”

The fact it is prefaced by “at the risk of jumping the gun” is also the type of hedge I read as mafia indicative. It preemptively establishes that “the person writing the post can be wrong, and that you should consider that if you kill Michelle and she flips town.”

I also don’t like Hally’s later townread on Michelle, because it feels forced. I don’t mind the progression change nearly as much as I do mind the reasoning behind the read. “She made a read on me involving me posting a spoiler, which is towny, so I will read you town now.” It doesn’t sound genuine to me.

You could disregard my mafia reads if it is common to claim mafia here, but I think tutuu and Hally have both crossed into “mafia even outside of their mafia claims” territory.

Ash Lael is legitimately my only townread so far and even that one is light. In fact, while writing this post, I think I should shift him back to null, because my reason for townreading him is rather thin to begin with.

Arete still has not posted anything outside of their mafia range. Unsurprisingly, since they have barely posted substantial stuff.

Off-Topic: Looks like Hally is in the same club of mafia where Arete belongs as well. “People who were in Champs but still call themselves bad at mafia for some reason.” You guys are good, and I’m going to treat you with respect of your play within the game. Which means, no easy clears. Have fun, Hally, the one who did not want to feel pressured

I like this post.

[Vulgard]

In fact, Arete's few posts are EXTREMELY underwhelming. My read there is still pending, but I'd like to point this out nonetheless. Me and Arete have a thing similar to your JJJ/Sloonei, where we have plenty of experience with one another and can typically read one another perfectly by EoD1 / EoD2 at the latest. At this point, I already expect Arete to read me town regardless of their alignment, because my opening post is something they would 100% call towny.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Also ftr tutu’s thing is a bit of a running joke...she claimed 3p a couple games ago, got a combination of policy and “we have time to so fuck it let’s TK her” killed...next game like an absolute legend comes out immediately claiming scum and spends like half the first day sticking to the bit

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Of course, tutu’s bit is probably funnier for me since I’m her partner and know it’s actually true this time, YMMV

[Vulgard]

Also ftr tutu’s thing is a bit of a running joke...she claimed 3p a couple games ago, got a combination of policy and “we have time to so fuck it let’s TK her” killed...next game like an absolute legend comes out immediately claiming scum and spends like half the first day sticking to the bit

I think that's actually a very mafia thing to do in this game if what you're saying is true. After getting partially PLed in the previous game as town, I assume that you wouldn't want that to happen to you once more, should you rand town again. Not caring about preventing that mistake seems mafia indicative to me with this context.

I don't understand Hally calling everyone town. So far, I've been calling everyone mafia. Maybe it's culture shock, to some degree.

[Vulgard]

Poison and Michelle's posts have left absolutely no impression on me after I read them for the first time. I might have to re-read them and see what I think.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Also ftr tutu’s thing is a bit of a running joke...she claimed 3p a couple games ago, got a combination of policy and “we have time to so fuck it let’s TK her” killed...next game like an absolute legend comes out immediately claiming scum and spends like half the first day sticking to the bit

I think that's actually a very mafia thing to do in this game if what you're saying is true. After getting partially PLed in the previous game as town, I assume that you wouldn't want that to happen to you once more, should you rand town again. Not caring about preventing that mistake seems mafia indicative to me with this context.

I don't understand Hally calling everyone town. So far, I've been calling everyone mafia. Maybe it's culture shock, to some degree.

Maybe I wasn’t clear but

The “like an absolute legend” section was about the last game, which is over, in which she was town (and N1ed IIRC).

So this is the third game in a row she’s claimed not-town, and the second time it’s funny

[Vulgard]

In fact, Arete's few posts are EXTREMELY underwhelming. My read there is still pending, but I'd like to point this out nonetheless. Me and Arete have a thing similar to your JJJ/Sloonei, where we have plenty of experience with one another and can typically read one another perfectly by EoD1 / EoD2 at the latest. At this point, I already expect Arete to read me town regardless of their alignment, because my opening post is something they would 100% call towny.

I think I'm understating this read. Arete's opening string of posts was EXTREMELY weak and I expect better from TownRete. I hope to see significant improvement before EoD1 or I am going to tunnel them into the ground.

[Vulgard]

Well, if tutuu does it all the time, then the read matters less. Any thoughts about the meme cop claim, or is that also something she does as town?

If everything she's posted so far has been a form of meming, I'm looking forward to what she can post when she isn't in meme mode.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I can’t wait for the tvt death tunnel 1v1

I’m so here for it

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Well, if tutuu does it all the time, then the read matters less. Any thoughts about the meme cop claim, or is that also something she does as town?

If everything she's posted so far has been a form of meming, I'm looking forward to what she can post when she isn't in meme mode.

I think she’s town and the meme claim stuff is irrelevant

[Poison]

I'm back! check out my first banner!!!!

[Vulgard]

I can't wait for V/V/V wagons or something like that. Always seems to happen when I play offsite.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Also we’ve already determined this will be a meme game so

No takebacksies

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I'm back! check out my first banner!!!!

Heck yeah!

[Vulgard]

Poison, leave an impression on me. 3, 2, 1, go.

[Poison]

Spoiler: show

kinda regret posting the michelle read because now i feel like i forced the issue too much

ara ara, hally you are posting too much beforehand and then regretting we discussed not to do that in scum chat right?

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Do a jim Carrey one!

[Vulgard]

Also we’ve already determined this will be a meme game so

No takebacksies

I'd rather have a meme game than Marson 2, to be frank.
Sorry for that one, again.

[Poison]

Poison, leave an impression on me. 3, 2, 1, go.

I LOVE HAIKYUU AND PENGUINS!!!!!!!

[Poison]

I'm back! check out my first banner!!!!

Heck yeah!

yeyyy!

wait wait, you have a U pick banner too!! is that only for u pick living towns?

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I'm back! check out my first banner!!!!

Heck yeah!

yeyyy!

wait wait, you have a U pick banner too!! is that only for u pick living towns?

No it’s for anyone that won, that includes you!

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Also we’ve already determined this will be a meme game so

No takebacksies

I'd rather have a meme game than Marson 2, to be frank.
Sorry for that one, again.

Ain’t that the truth

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Poison also town


Good lord I’m up to six I’m incredible

[Poison]

I'm back! check out my first banner!!!!

Heck yeah!

yeyyy!

wait wait, you have a U pick banner too!! is that only for u pick living towns?

No it’s for anyone that won, that includes you!

WOAAAAAAAAA!!!!!! alright lemme first add that as well and then catch up on this game! hype!!

[Vulgard]

Poison, leave an impression on me. 3, 2, 1, go.

I LOVE HAIKYUU AND PENGUINS!!!!!!!

Pocketed.
I unironically find this response quite towny. Thank you.

I could say a few things about myself if you think it'll help you read me better (or if you're just curious overall).

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Hype hype!!

[Poison]

Poison, leave an impression on me. 3, 2, 1, go.

I LOVE HAIKYUU AND PENGUINS!!!!!!!

Pocketed.
I unironically find this response quite towny. Thank you.

I could say a few things about myself if you think it'll help you read me better (or if you're just curious overall).

of course tell me about you,

do you like to play as a town? a scum or a 3p ? also also also, do you watch haikyuu?

also, if you are to choose one power from the following elements which one would you choose?

Ice? Fire? Wind?

[Poison]

now I catch up from where I left.

[Poison]

oh btw do not expect me to play seriously until we are in the middle of day 1 at least!

Fun Hype!!!

[Vulgard]

Playing as town would be more fun if you didn't have the "solve the game" burden. It feels like every town death is a punch in the gut, especially if you were on their wagon, or even worse -- if you are the one who started their wagon and kept traction there. When you're mafia, doing that to your partners feels much less problematic, because both of you generally agree to do this in scumchat. Being mafia also means you don't have the "solving the game" burden in most cases.

Having this take might mean I'm sensitive, and that wouldn't be inaccurate. I'm INFP-A (according to 16personalities, and I agree with it), and this type is known for being sensitive, whether they hide it or not.

I don't like to play 3p, because in most cases, they have no reason to care about the game, only about their wincon. I've hardly seen any neutrals who needed to be active participants at all times, except maybe the NK, and I dislike the NK as a concept.

I think Wind would be the most universally useful, depending on my level of control. I could fly, move things around, and more. The possibilities seem endless. Fire is too destructive, and Ice seems more... situational. And more problematic for others no matter how I end up using it.

[Poison]

michelles reaction wasn’t really what i was expecting regardless of her alignment tbh

i haven't played with mich in a long time, but i think they have somewhat slower start as either alignment.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

AIR NOMADS BABAY

[Vulgard]

Playing as town would be more fun if you didn't have the "solve the game" burden. It feels like every town death is a punch in the gut, especially if you were on their wagon, or even worse -- if you are the one who started their wagon and kept traction there. When you're mafia, doing that to your partners feels much less problematic, because both of you generally agree to do this in scumchat. Being mafia also means you don't have the "solving the game" burden in most cases.

Having this take might mean I'm sensitive, and that wouldn't be inaccurate. I'm INFP-A (according to 16personalities, and I agree with it), and this type is known for being sensitive, whether they hide it or not.

I don't like to play 3p, because in most cases, they have no reason to care about the game, only about their wincon. I've hardly seen any neutrals who needed to be active participants at all times, except maybe the NK, and I dislike the NK as a concept.

I think Wind would be the most universally useful, depending on my level of control. I could fly, move things around, and more. The possibilities seem endless. Fire is too destructive, and Ice seems more... situational. And more problematic for others no matter how I end up using it.

I may or may not have this take because I've screwed things up in LYLO too many times.

[Poison]

Playing as town would be more fun if you didn't have the "solve the game" burden. It feels like every town death is a punch in the gut, especially if you were on their wagon, or even worse -- if you are the one who started their wagon and kept traction there. When you're mafia, doing that to your partners feels much less problematic, because both of you generally agree to do this in scumchat. Being mafia also means you don't have the "solving the game" burden in most cases.

Having this take might mean I'm sensitive, and that wouldn't be inaccurate. I'm INFP-A (according to 16personalities, and I agree with it), and this type is known for being sensitive, whether they hide it or not.

I don't like to play 3p, because in most cases, they have no reason to care about the game, only about their wincon. I've hardly seen any neutrals who needed to be active participants at all times, except maybe the NK, and I dislike the NK as a concept.

I think Wind would be the most universally useful, depending on my level of control. I could fly, move things around, and more. The possibilities seem endless. Fire is too destructive, and Ice seems more... situational. And more problematic for others no matter how I end up using it.

you sound more like a leader personality in the first para, someone, who would and does get people to listen to them ?

i always, forget my 16peronalities test result, I'll be checking that again later, but thanks for letting me know your personality!!

wind is a nice choice, so basically -

1. you don't like to have a careless attitude towards the game but you also don't want to spend too much effort carrying the "solve the game burden" .
2. you like being mafia.

so, if we are talking about guessing your alignment by your activity we are just wasting time cause you would be active and showing a lot of effort in solving the game as either alignment. cool. it'll be fun!!

[Poison]

Playing as town would be more fun if you didn't have the "solve the game" burden. It feels like every town death is a punch in the gut, especially if you were on their wagon, or even worse -- if you are the one who started their wagon and kept traction there. When you're mafia, doing that to your partners feels much less problematic, because both of you generally agree to do this in scumchat. Being mafia also means you don't have the "solving the game" burden in most cases.

Having this take might mean I'm sensitive, and that wouldn't be inaccurate. I'm INFP-A (according to 16personalities, and I agree with it), and this type is known for being sensitive, whether they hide it or not.

I don't like to play 3p, because in most cases, they have no reason to care about the game, only about their wincon. I've hardly seen any neutrals who needed to be active participants at all times, except maybe the NK, and I dislike the NK as a concept.

I think Wind would be the most universally useful, depending on my level of control. I could fly, move things around, and more. The possibilities seem endless. Fire is too destructive, and Ice seems more... situational. And more problematic for others no matter how I end up using it.

you sound more like a leader personality in the first para, someone, who would and does get people to listen to them ?

i always, forget my 16peronalities test result, I'll be checking that again later, but thanks for letting me know your personality!!

wind is a nice choice, so basically -

1. you don't like to have a careless attitude towards the game but you also don't want to spend too much effort carrying the "solve the game burden" .
2. you like being mafia.

so, if we are talking about guessing your alignment by your activity we are just wasting time cause you would be active and showing a lot of effort in solving the game as either alignment. cool. it'll be fun!!

also, you are good with words, I expect you to provide a lot of theories or maybe some bulky reads instead of one single line of reason like a few. reading you would be hard.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I think you can read vulgard by effort/level of caring

That’s what my one game sample size says anyways so I’m going with it

[Poison]

I think you can read vulgard by effort/level of caring

That’s what my one game sample size says anyways so I’m going with it

what alignment was he and how was his approach in general ?

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I think you can read vulgard by effort/level of caring

That’s what my one game sample size says anyways so I’m going with it

what alignment was he and how was his approach in general ?

He was town

Idk I’m not good at describing people’s approaches

He just seemed to care strongly in a way I think is probably hard to fake

[Poison]

i see. aight I actually wasted the time taking the personality test! will be back after lunch...

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Almost every personality test is mostly a waste tbh