Escape From Russia [GAME OVER]

[tutuu]

on page 8, going to take a break and catch up later

could vulgard be any more obviously scum?

[Hally]

Who’s in the mood for some vote count analysis before we have any actual votes?

Currently I have Ted, Vulgard, tutuu and kinda-sorta-Hally all on me in spirit. Wolves will usually not bunch up a lot, in a wagon of four voters you’ll rarely have more than one. Equally, a wagon of four voters will rarely have no wolves. When you’ve got a bit of movement happening towards a townie usually one will want to move with the thread and find a way to climb on board.

Obviously I think tutuu is the opportunistic wolf in this group. Assuming I’m right about that, it implies that the other three are town. I was already getting to feel pretty comfy about Vulgard, but the other two have been indecipherable and inner-conflict-inducing, respectively. Being able to anti-associate them with my top scumread feels good.

i think doing “wagon” analysis is pointless until everyone is here and there are actual votes down

[Hally]

on page 8, going to take a break and catch up later

could vulgard be any more obviously scum?

tell me more

[112]

so i also think poison chan is wolfing but have her as not w/w with vulgard

[Hally]

so i also think poison chan is wolfing but have her as not w/w with vulgard

why are they wolfing?

[Hally]

and why can’t they be w/w?

[112]

on page 8, going to take a break and catch up later

could vulgard be any more obviously scum?

tell me more

His tone is incredibly forced/stilted and he keeps repeating his cases in a way that makes me think he's trying to mimic a proper progression on people.

[Hally]

on page 8, going to take a break and catch up later

could vulgard be any more obviously scum?

tell me more

His tone is incredibly forced/stilted and he keeps repeating his cases in a way that makes me think he's trying to mimic a proper progression on people.

re: tone i think he just writes like that

i don’t understand what you mean by the bolded

[Ash Lael]

I love 112 coming in hot with heterodox scumreads and kinda want to town them just for that.

[Hally]

I love 112 coming in hot with heterodox scumreads and kinda want to town them just for that.

same

[Hally]

ash is probably also just town. there’s been a couple of times already where he’s mindmelded with me in the moment and i don’t expect that to happen if he’s scum. some ppl can still mindmeld with me even as scum but i don’t think ash is one of them

[112]

so i also think poison chan is wolfing but have her as not w/w with vulgard

why are they wolfing?

Posts like this one:

I dislike tutuu claiming mafia and then cop as a meme, but since it's apparently something she does as town all the time, it shouldn't be a factor in my read.
Independently from that, I disliked her response to my slight pressure, because it felt very dismissive. Like she was internally self-conscious and it slipped through in her response. While it wasn't openly hostile, it had the underlying tone of "leave me alone this instant."

I also dislike the fact she appears to be fluffposting a lot. Nanook is doing the same thing, but his fluff is sprinkled with interactions and reads, and feels much less rigid overall. The impression I get from tutuu is that she is trying a bit too hard to fit into the thread, which shines through specifically in her interactions with Poison. She has been focusing on those for quite a while, and they are hardly related to the game we're playing, which leads me to believe she wants to enter the game without garnering suspicion by doing it "through a townie" instead of on her own merits.

I'm not certain if others understand my thought process on tutuu, but this is where I currently stand.

I would talk more about Hally, but I am waiting for them to post more. I obviously disliked them claiming mafia, and I considered their earlier read on Michelle rather forced, including the progression into reading Michelle town. It felt rigid and somewhat performative, like someone trying to be townread because they are trying to solve another player right away. The "solve" did not feel very natural to me.

Okagyyyy now I get it. I am getting curious about vulgard is because I reason out people in a similar manner? Hmmm....... Not that scum wouldn't be doing this but I think I understand where he is coming from in general. I think I'll like to slight townread vulgard atm.

There's very little thought but she ends up with a townread on Vulgard. The post is almost cut from a mold; -bring up different points, -show ambivalence, -end with a read based on prior justification... but there's just nothing there. 'I think I understand where he's coming from' reads as just an attempt to build buddyship rather than actually reading into his mindset. I don't like her tone, either- some of her posts seem exaggerated, and although it's hard to distinguish personality from actual slips, I get a bad feeling from a lot of what she writes.

and why can’t they be w/w?

There were a couple of interactions I've come across in my catch-up that made me think they're not teamed. Vulgard had one post talking about Poison in a manner I didn't think could come from a teammate.

[112]

on page 8, going to take a break and catch up later

could vulgard be any more obviously scum?

tell me more

His tone is incredibly forced/stilted and he keeps repeating his cases in a way that makes me think he's trying to mimic a proper progression on people.

re: tone i think he just writes like that

i don’t understand what you mean by the bolded

By the bolded I mean that he keeps bringing things up that he's already said before, such as that he doesn't like the posters who claimed maf. It seems like he's trying to write every read he has out to such a detailed extent that nobody can question the work he's put in/the quality of his thoughts, but it just comes out looking like he's trying very hard to remember the reasons he's scumread peope--something that town don't have to do because they've already internalized their opinions.

[Hally]

so i also think poison chan is wolfing but have her as not w/w with vulgard

why are they wolfing?

Posts like this one:

I dislike tutuu claiming mafia and then cop as a meme, but since it's apparently something she does as town all the time, it shouldn't be a factor in my read.
Independently from that, I disliked her response to my slight pressure, because it felt very dismissive. Like she was internally self-conscious and it slipped through in her response. While it wasn't openly hostile, it had the underlying tone of "leave me alone this instant."

I also dislike the fact she appears to be fluffposting a lot. Nanook is doing the same thing, but his fluff is sprinkled with interactions and reads, and feels much less rigid overall. The impression I get from tutuu is that she is trying a bit too hard to fit into the thread, which shines through specifically in her interactions with Poison. She has been focusing on those for quite a while, and they are hardly related to the game we're playing, which leads me to believe she wants to enter the game without garnering suspicion by doing it "through a townie" instead of on her own merits.

I'm not certain if others understand my thought process on tutuu, but this is where I currently stand.

I would talk more about Hally, but I am waiting for them to post more. I obviously disliked them claiming mafia, and I considered their earlier read on Michelle rather forced, including the progression into reading Michelle town. It felt rigid and somewhat performative, like someone trying to be townread because they are trying to solve another player right away. The "solve" did not feel very natural to me.

Okagyyyy now I get it. I am getting curious about vulgard is because I reason out people in a similar manner? Hmmm....... Not that scum wouldn't be doing this but I think I understand where he is coming from in general. I think I'll like to slight townread vulgard atm.

There's very little thought but she ends up with a townread on Vulgard. The post is almost cut from a mold; -bring up different points, -show ambivalence, -end with a read based on prior justification... but there's just nothing there. 'I think I understand where he's coming from' reads as just an attempt to build buddyship rather than actually reading into his mindset. I don't like her tone, either- some of her posts seem exaggerated, and although it's hard to distinguish personality from actual slips, I get a bad feeling from a lot of what she writes.

and why can’t they be w/w?

There were a couple of interactions I've come across in my catch-up that made me think they're not teamed. Vulgard had one post talking about Poison in a manner I didn't think could come from a teammate.

gotcha

re: the interactions, could i trouble you to quote one? just to humor me

[112]

Every time he posts he's repeating his case from before and it feels like he's presenting some sort of forced image of originality.

[Ash Lael]

Yeah, ok, 112 lock town.

[Hally]

on page 8, going to take a break and catch up later

could vulgard be any more obviously scum?

tell me more

His tone is incredibly forced/stilted and he keeps repeating his cases in a way that makes me think he's trying to mimic a proper progression on people.

re: tone i think he just writes like that

i don’t understand what you mean by the bolded

By the bolded I mean that he keeps bringing things up that he's already said before, such as that he doesn't like the posters who claimed maf. It seems like he's trying to write every read he has out to such a detailed extent that nobody can question the work he's put in/the quality of his thoughts, but it just comes out looking like he's trying very hard to remember the reasons he's scumread peope--something that town don't have to do because they've already internalized their opinions.

ah, i get what you mean now

[112]

so i also think poison chan is wolfing but have her as not w/w with vulgard

why are they wolfing?

Posts like this one:

I dislike tutuu claiming mafia and then cop as a meme, but since it's apparently something she does as town all the time, it shouldn't be a factor in my read.
Independently from that, I disliked her response to my slight pressure, because it felt very dismissive. Like she was internally self-conscious and it slipped through in her response. While it wasn't openly hostile, it had the underlying tone of "leave me alone this instant."

I also dislike the fact she appears to be fluffposting a lot. Nanook is doing the same thing, but his fluff is sprinkled with interactions and reads, and feels much less rigid overall. The impression I get from tutuu is that she is trying a bit too hard to fit into the thread, which shines through specifically in her interactions with Poison. She has been focusing on those for quite a while, and they are hardly related to the game we're playing, which leads me to believe she wants to enter the game without garnering suspicion by doing it "through a townie" instead of on her own merits.

I'm not certain if others understand my thought process on tutuu, but this is where I currently stand.

I would talk more about Hally, but I am waiting for them to post more. I obviously disliked them claiming mafia, and I considered their earlier read on Michelle rather forced, including the progression into reading Michelle town. It felt rigid and somewhat performative, like someone trying to be townread because they are trying to solve another player right away. The "solve" did not feel very natural to me.

Okagyyyy now I get it. I am getting curious about vulgard is because I reason out people in a similar manner? Hmmm....... Not that scum wouldn't be doing this but I think I understand where he is coming from in general. I think I'll like to slight townread vulgard atm.

There's very little thought but she ends up with a townread on Vulgard. The post is almost cut from a mold; -bring up different points, -show ambivalence, -end with a read based on prior justification... but there's just nothing there. 'I think I understand where he's coming from' reads as just an attempt to build buddyship rather than actually reading into his mindset. I don't like her tone, either- some of her posts seem exaggerated, and although it's hard to distinguish personality from actual slips, I get a bad feeling from a lot of what she writes.

and why can’t they be w/w?

There were a couple of interactions I've come across in my catch-up that made me think they're not teamed. Vulgard had one post talking about Poison in a manner I didn't think could come from a teammate.

gotcha

re: the interactions, could i trouble you to quote one? just to humor me

sure, let me find it. still not caught up yet but i'll iso

[Hally]

Yeah, ok, 112 lock town.

was just about to say that i feel very comfortable calling 112 town rn

[tutuu]

[112]

The reason I'm hesitant to townread Ash is because I get the impression that he's fully capable of writing the posts he has written as either alignment. So far, there hasn't been anything telling me that he certainly doesn't have more information than he should.

My townread on Poison is mostly a result of her open excitement and the energy of her response to my slight pressure. It felt free of doubt, and free of worry. It looked like she hadn't even thought twice about what she was going to write, which is a good sign.

Here's an example. This just doesn't feel like something a teammate would write about their partner to me. It's more like a pocket attempt than anything.

[Hally]

although if anyone who knows 112 feels like these sorts of takes are within his scum range, please lmk. they seem very genuine to me though

[Ash Lael]

Yeah, ok, 112 lock town.

was just about to say that i feel very comfortable calling 112 town rn

I am not spf and you can’t pocket me with mindmelds.

Spoiler: show

But you don’t need to because I always end up townreading you anyway

[Hally]

lmao

[Hally]

The reason I'm hesitant to townread Ash is because I get the impression that he's fully capable of writing the posts he has written as either alignment. So far, there hasn't been anything telling me that he certainly doesn't have more information than he should.

My townread on Poison is mostly a result of her open excitement and the energy of her response to my slight pressure. It felt free of doubt, and free of worry. It looked like she hadn't even thought twice about what she was going to write, which is a good sign.

Here's an example. This just doesn't feel like something a teammate would write about their partner to me. It's more like a pocket attempt than anything.

ok thanks

[Hally]

yea 112 is a villager. pretty confident rn

[Hally]

Yeah, ok, 112 lock town.

was just about to say that i feel very comfortable calling 112 town rn

I am not spf and you can’t pocket me with mindmelds.

Spoiler: show

But you don’t need to because I always end up townreading you anyway

[Ash Lael]

You’re still a wolf but this makes me want to give you a day pass.

[Hally]

town:
nook
tutuu
112
vulgard

town lean:
ted
ash
michelle
poison

meh:
arete

absent:
wilgy
dunya
lc
tony
trip

so basically i tr everyone who’s posted except arete. but this is probably skewed by the five no-posters. it’s kinda hard to know how much to weight things when a third of the data is missing

[tutuu]

You’re still a wolf but this makes me want to give you a day pass.

i love u too boomer

[tutuu]

(i agree 112 town i dont have anything to add that hasnt already been said)

[mention]112[/mention] what pronouns u use?

[112]

(i agree 112 town i dont have anything to add that hasnt already been said)

@112 what pronouns u use?

she/her

[Hally]

(i agree 112 town i dont have anything to add that hasnt already been said)

@112 what pronouns u use?

she/her

oh sorry, will remember for the future

i thought i just looked at your profile and saw he/him but ig imagined that

or wait actually i think that was vul. oops

[tedxtr]

although if anyone who knows 112 feels like these sorts of takes are within his scum range, please lmk. they seem very genuine to me though

Don’t think so, could be wrong

Comfortable calling them villa

[tedxtr]

I’m schrodinger’s deeptown

[Poison]

I can either catch up or sleep or talk to my friends. Definitely not choosing the first 9ver the others so maybe will be back in the morning? If there's anything in specific you want me to check out first mention me.

[Hally]

I can either catch up or sleep or talk to my friends. Definitely not choosing the first 9ver the others so maybe will be back in the morning? If there's anything in specific you want me to check out first mention me.

go live your life the game will still be here later

[Poison]

You’re still a wolf but this makes me want to give you a day pass.

Wait bwahahahhahahah [mention]tutuu[/mention] that is amazing!! I'm really nodding looking at mine. Even though we never played turbo together still "chaotic" hahahahaha.

CHAOSSSSSSS

[tedxtr]

Don’t think Ash’s recent poast was particularly villagery, don’t get the read there (wagonomics one)

It’s not like he mindmelded with Hally on an unusual read or anything

[Poison]

I can either catch up or sleep or talk to my friends. Definitely not choosing the first 9ver the others so maybe will be back in the morning? If there's anything in specific you want me to check out first mention me.

go live your life the game will still be here later

I really like people who respects sleeping.

[Poison]

Don’t think Ash’s recent poast was particularly villagery, don’t get the read there (wagonomics one)

It’s not like he mindmelded with Hally on an unusual read or anything

Ted look into my eyes and hold a bible in your hands and tell me honestly if you are town or scum.

[tedxtr]

Even if I answered truthfully, you wouldn’t buy it

[Poison]

(i agree 112 town i dont have anything to add that hasnt already been said)

@112 what pronouns u use?

she/her

oh sorry, will remember for the future

i thought i just looked at your profile and saw he/him but ig imagined that

or wait actually i think that was vul. oops

When in confusion always use they/them. I just learnt this recently helps me a lot.

[Poison]

Even if I answered truthfully, you wouldn’t buy it

Woah since when you know me so well?

[Poison]

town:
nook
tutuu
112
vulgard

town lean:
ted
ash
michelle
poison

meh:
arete

absent:
wilgy
dunya
lc
tony
trip

so basically i tr everyone who’s posted except arete. but this is probably skewed by the five no-posters. it’s kinda hard to know how much to weight things when a third of the data is missing

Did 112 post much? I don't remember much from them.

[Poison]

town:
nook
tutuu
112
vulgard

town lean:
ted
ash
michelle
poison

meh:
arete

absent:
wilgy
dunya
lc
tony
trip

so basically i tr everyone who’s posted except arete. but this is probably skewed by the five no-posters. it’s kinda hard to know how much to weight things when a third of the data is missing

Also, tell me about your town leans. Mich and ted specifically?

[tutuu]

for those who dont have poison chan as town

shes doing the town tell

she just said shes either sleeping or talking to her friends instead of catching up but her interest got grabbed and shes posting. its a towntell cuz i said so okayyyyy

[tutuu]

actually i regret bringing attention to this tell, i should have kept it unless nanook or poison tan were in danger of getting yeeted. god damn it ... legit feel like i scammed myself

[Poison]

The reason I'm hesitant to townread Ash is because I get the impression that he's fully capable of writing the posts he has written as either alignment. So far, there hasn't been anything telling me that he certainly doesn't have more information than he should.

My townread on Poison is mostly a result of her open excitement and the energy of her response to my slight pressure. It felt free of doubt, and free of worry. It looked like she hadn't even thought twice about what she was going to write, which is a good sign.

Here's an example. This just doesn't feel like something a teammate would write about their partner to me. It's more like a pocket attempt than anything.

But we are teammates wdym? Of course we discussed it before in scum chat.

[Hally]

Don’t think Ash’s recent poast was particularly villagery, don’t get the read there (wagonomics one)

It’s not like he mindmelded with Hally on an unusual read or anything

meh. not locked in on it but i think he’s fine for now