Escape From Russia [GAME OVER]

[TonyStarkPrime]

huh I do recall poison not voting

[Michelle]

Ted can be top town as a treat, but I recall SK doing the same "everyone be townier" thing in G7. I think I'm arbitrarily leery there.

Ted can go either way

didn't you think I was town

You had towny posts but i remebered your wolf potential and i said nah, i prefer to not let myself fooled again.

I disliked your change of posts with Poison.

[TonyStarkPrime]

I don't know what' sgoing on and there's a huge blue box on the syndicate webpage

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Does anyone have a good meta read on TSP?

Sloonei and Jay i guess
Aand Long Con in this game
Probably Dunya... Idk.

I'm not usually a "meta read" kinda guy.

Are we serious right now? Dunya and TSP? Get your shit together people, we’re killing wilgy or trip today and that’s all there is to it



In other words, get in bitches we’re going lurker hunting

Literally 0 to like 5 posters? Aren't they like "Misyeet materials".

No, they’re the optimal kills

I think a kill becomes more optimal when it gives us more connections to work with. Town or wolf, chopping a nonposter gives us the least information.

I don’t really care about “info” or whatever I just wanna kill scum

Killing trip is objectively good and I’m already mad it’s not gonna happen

[tedxtr]

weird game state, tons of defending blocks, spidey senses tell me we're gonna yeet the low posters because nobody cares to defend them

or the wagon remains on TSP

[TonyStarkPrime]

yea sorry everyone, forgot this game was happening and I won't have time to catch up on these posts.

why am i being voted as a 0 poster lul

this really is the scummiest post in the game

[Long Con]

Does anyone have a good meta read on TSP?

Sloonei and Jay i guess
Aand Long Con in this game
Probably Dunya... Idk.

I'm not usually a "meta read" kinda guy.

Are we serious right now? Dunya and TSP? Get your shit together people, we’re killing wilgy or trip today and that’s all there is to it



In other words, get in bitches we’re going lurker hunting

Literally 0 to like 5 posters? Aren't they like "Misyeet materials".

No, they’re the optimal kills

I think a kill becomes more optimal when it gives us more connections to work with. Town or wolf, chopping a nonposter gives us the least information.

I don’t really care about “info” or whatever I just wanna kill scum

Killing trip is objectively good and I’m already mad it’s not gonna happen

Define "objectively good".

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Tony’s the philosopher I’m sure he has an opinion

[TonyStarkPrime]

Tony’s the philosopher I’m sure he has an opinion

opinion is currently shaken. come back to me at the end of the semester.

[TonyStarkPrime]

was reading some Aristotle and it went south

[TonyStarkPrime]

so I composed some music about how I felt! I'll share it when it's done.

[TonyStarkPrime]

it is sufficient at this point to say that if anything is objectively good it must be, in some sense, excellent or beautiful. Chopping Tony is not beautiful.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Chopping Tony does not spark joy

[Michelle]

huh I do recall poison not voting

She posted a reads list with me at bottom, i asked where is my vote and she said she votes when she wants.
Now she came and voted me, noticed the gamestate when no one jumped on me and voted oportunistic in TSPs wagon because she made a case on him earlier in the day.

When i asked her few questions she snapped at me an aggresive speech.

I rescind my town lean i had on her, for her bad progression, she is back to null reads now.

Townies
Hally
Tutuu
Nanook
Vulgard
Prob Arete because Vulgard said so
I can put here 112 i think

A null with potential to be villager 3H
Dr. W

Nulls that were lowered from TRs
Ted
Poison

Wolves
Ash
Dunya

I would not lynch today Tony and Long Con, i need to see them playing more, they are null reads too.

[tedxtr]

Voting dunya

[tedxtr]

Ash prob not happening toDay but still think he’s wolf

[Long Con]

What does it mean when a player puts forth an opinion that is objectively meaningless?

[dunya]

i've been sick and asked for a replacement, but obv gman has not been able to find one

i feel like shit, and i don't feel up to the task of contributing, but 4 votes on me? let's say we got scum here: ted, michelle, 112, LC

[dunya]

what's the case on wilgy?

i don't feel tsp is bad and won't self pres there.

[Hally]

not actually here rn but [mention]tedxtr[/mention] can you explain your reads more? like why dunya/tony/ash are mafia? or maybe make like mini cases on them? just so i can look at your reasoning for those reads before EoD since i don’t think you’ll be awake

[dunya]

tony's voters: Poison Chan, Vulgard, Ash Lael, Arete

dunya's voters: Long Con, Michelle, tedxtr, 112

i'd say scum between these 2. if i have to guess who's bad on tony, it would be poison/ash

[tedxtr]

I’d be happy to move on Ash

[dunya]

I’d be happy to move on Ash

how could you vote me when you know im mia?

that's a bullshit move tbh, consider our truce voided.

[TonyStarkPrime]

I too would like to chop Ash

[dunya]

I’d be happy to move on Ash

how could you vote me when you know im mia?

that's a bullshit move tbh, consider our truce voided.

and consider yourself a suspect

[dunya]

I too would like to chop Ash

why not 112?

get me up to speed, who're your top scum reads?

[TonyStarkPrime]

I too would like to chop Ash

why not 112?

get me up to speed, who're your top scum reads?

Top scum read is still 112 but I don't have the best track record reading 112. Michelle is trending downwards, I didn't like her interactions with Poison but I might be missing something. Wilgy's always a ? And Ash is some Australian dude who thinks I'm a wolf and that's suspicious.

[TonyStarkPrime]

I also can't really point to anything super scummy about 112 but the iso isn't inspiring

[dunya]

I too would like to chop Ash

why not 112?

get me up to speed, who're your top scum reads?

Top scum read is still 112 but I don't have the best track record reading 112. Michelle is trending downwards, I didn't like her interactions with Poison but I might be missing something. Wilgy's always a ? And Ash is some Australian dude who thinks I'm a wolf and that's suspicious.

what's the last game with 112 you've played?

[TonyStarkPrime]

What does it mean when a player puts forth an opinion that is objectively meaningless?

opinions are not meaningless they are right or wrong. if a statement is meaningless it does not qualify as opinion

[tedxtr]

not actually here rn but @tedxtr can you explain your reads more? like why dunya/tony/ash are mafia? or maybe make like mini cases on them? just so i can look at your reasoning for those reads before EoD since i don’t think you’ll be awake

Ash not really making villager-y posts, he has heaps of mini tunnels without any form of consistency or re-evaluation, his grasp of the game is narrow apart from making that list and then picking on specific things.

He doesn’t seem too interested in pushing any read of his, the early nanook tunnel I believe was not going anywhere and he sat for as long as he could without actually trying to sell a scum case.

From a holistic PoV I’d say he isn’t trying to push his reads at all which isn’t what I’d expect out of Ash based off what I’ve seen from him in spec chat with all his theories and engagement (this is more of an assumption that I could be wrong about, but it’s lolD1 where we have 2 no posters and other slots just being indiscernible)

Out of all the defending blocks Ash seems like the only appealing yeet that will at least please some people / has a somewhat decent shot of happening and people won’t cry about it.

It’s hard to make a convincing case and pushing someone when there are people shielding each other for no declared reason. It’s D1, yeet whoever isn’t townie enough, I don’t really like to complicate on D1.

[dunya]

i also don't believe that post where hally saw 112's scum game on here and called her play itt as spontaneous or looser. i did not get that impression from her iso at all, just the opposite. would be interesting to see what hally's role is if 112 flips mafia. <---- use for future ref.

[tedxtr]

I’d be happy to move on Ash

how could you vote me when you know im mia?

that's a bullshit move tbh, consider our truce voided.

and consider yourself a suspect

consider me suspected

[TonyStarkPrime]

I too would like to chop Ash

why not 112?

get me up to speed, who're your top scum reads?

Top scum read is still 112 but I don't have the best track record reading 112. Michelle is trending downwards, I didn't like her interactions with Poison but I might be missing something. Wilgy's always a ? And Ash is some Australian dude who thinks I'm a wolf and that's suspicious.

what's the last game with 112 you've played?

The prequel to this game, where they were a wolf, I thought they were scummy, and I didn't chop them all game.

Or Abdimals, where they were a wolf and I did chop them? 112 was in Abdimals but I don't remember that at all.

Regardless, in both of these games I thought 112 was scummy for very base line reasons and 112 was a wolf.

[dunya]

[mention]tutuu[/mention] why are you voting drwilgy

[tutuu]

What does it mean when a player puts forth an opinion that is objectively meaningless?

opinions are not meaningless they are right or wrong. if a statement is meaningless it does not qualify as opinion

wtf?

i prefer pears over apples. thats an opinion. how can this be either right or wrong

[tutuu]

@tutuu why are you voting drwilgy

sheeping hally and nanook

[dunya]

I too would like to chop Ash

why not 112?

get me up to speed, who're your top scum reads?

Top scum read is still 112 but I don't have the best track record reading 112. Michelle is trending downwards, I didn't like her interactions with Poison but I might be missing something. Wilgy's always a ? And Ash is some Australian dude who thinks I'm a wolf and that's suspicious.

what's the last game with 112 you've played?

The prequel to this game, where they were a wolf, I thought they were scummy, and I didn't chop them all game.

Or Abdimals, where they were a wolf and I did chop them? 112 was in Abdimals but I don't remember that at all.

Regardless, in both of these games I thought 112 was scummy for very base line reasons and 112 was a wolf.

if you thought she was scummy and she was a wolf, doesn't that mean you actually have a good track record of reading her?

[dunya]

What does it mean when a player puts forth an opinion that is objectively meaningless?

opinions are not meaningless they are right or wrong. if a statement is meaningless it does not qualify as opinion

wtf?

i prefer pears over apples. thats an opinion. how can this be either right or wrong

depending on ripeness, sometimes you're wrong and sometimes you're right

[tutuu]

What does it mean when a player puts forth an opinion that is objectively meaningless?

opinions are not meaningless they are right or wrong. if a statement is meaningless it does not qualify as opinion

wtf?

i prefer pears over apples. thats an opinion. how can this be either right or wrong

depending on ripeness, sometimes you're wrong and sometimes you're right

ur cute

[TonyStarkPrime]

What does it mean when a player puts forth an opinion that is objectively meaningless?

opinions are not meaningless they are right or wrong. if a statement is meaningless it does not qualify as opinion

wtf?

i prefer pears over apples. thats an opinion. how can this be either right or wrong

it's not an opinion. It is a factual statement that you prefer pears over apples. The opinion form would be that "pears are better than apples". This statement may have an indeterminate truth value, as there is no human way of judging whether pears are better than apples, but it does have a truth value. Opinions, on the other hand, don't have a moral value. For instance, someone who likes Greta Van Fleet is wrong, not bad.

[tedxtr]

TSP makes a few bad posts, Ash singles him out

TSP makes a lot more posts afterwards, Ash doesn’t discern his alignment, when doubt is cast on Tony flipping town, Ash reassures us that he is “locked wolf”

Same thing with Nanook, call him out for the opening post, Nanook makes a shit ton of posts after that, Ash doesn’t really address any and moves on

He makes off the cuff confident statements about people being scum and then he just moves on

I don’t get how he’s being villa read quite frankly

[TonyStarkPrime]

I too would like to chop Ash

why not 112?

get me up to speed, who're your top scum reads?

Top scum read is still 112 but I don't have the best track record reading 112. Michelle is trending downwards, I didn't like her interactions with Poison but I might be missing something. Wilgy's always a ? And Ash is some Australian dude who thinks I'm a wolf and that's suspicious.

what's the last game with 112 you've played?

The prequel to this game, where they were a wolf, I thought they were scummy, and I didn't chop them all game.

Or Abdimals, where they were a wolf and I did chop them? 112 was in Abdimals but I don't remember that at all.

Regardless, in both of these games I thought 112 was scummy for very base line reasons and 112 was a wolf.

if you thought she was scummy and she was a wolf, doesn't that mean you actually have a good track record of reading her?

Well I didn't chop her

[Long Con]

What does it mean when a player puts forth an opinion that is objectively meaningless?

opinions are not meaningless they are right or wrong. if a statement is meaningless it does not qualify as opinion

What does it mean when a player puts forth a call to action based on a statement that is objectively meaningless?

[TonyStarkPrime]

including in an f3 where I really should have

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Sure I’ll sheep a 112 read

[TonyStarkPrime]

What does it mean when a player puts forth an opinion that is objectively meaningless?

opinions are not meaningless they are right or wrong. if a statement is meaningless it does not qualify as opinion

What does it mean when a player puts forth a call to action based on a statement that is objectively meaningless?

It depends on the end goal of their rhetoric.

[Long Con]

TSP makes a few bad posts, Ash singles him out

TSP makes a lot more posts afterwards, Ash doesn’t discern his alignment, when doubt is cast on Tony flipping town, Ash reassures us that he is “locked wolf”

Same thing with Nanook, call him out for the opening post, Nanook makes a shit ton of posts after that, Ash doesn’t really address any and moves on

He makes off the cuff confident statements about people being scum and then he just moves on

I don’t get how he’s being villa read quite frankly

I could flex back that way with my vote.

[Long Con]

What does it mean when a player puts forth an opinion that is objectively meaningless?

opinions are not meaningless they are right or wrong. if a statement is meaningless it does not qualify as opinion

What does it mean when a player puts forth a call to action based on a statement that is objectively meaningless?

It depends on the end goal of their rhetoric.

Is that how you judge all statements made by mafia players?

[tutuu]

i guess .... ill sheep ... even tho i kinda townread her?

[VOTE: 112] aubergine