Escape From Russia [GAME OVER]

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I mean in a gamestate where I have nine TRs and seven of them are confident to high confidence...and Trip did that scummy looking thing...yeah I’m always gonna go for the two poster if they’re null, which they were

Show me a game where somebody posted below 5 times on day 1, was yeeted, and flipped mafia?
I'm not taunting you. I'm curious if that's actually happened in your games.

I’ve had partners it’s applied to, been town and seen it happen too. Not the killed D1 part usually, but the low post part.

[Vulgard]

Pepega.

[Vulgard]

I feel like all I'm doing is having pointless arguments over things that don't matter.
I feel good enough about my PoE, let's win the game.

[Hally]

Reading the poll right now. The TH wagon is very sketchy to me, meanwhile I townread every single TSP voter.
Hmm.

how is it sketchy? the th wagon is me/nook/tutuu/arete, who should all be town, plus tony and wilgy who are more uncertain. wilgy especially

but like, idk i feel like you’re making a bit of a big deal out of trip being eliminated? does fol just never kill low posters? like why is this so objectionable on D1? im just confused

I've just described why I think it's bad.

- Gives you nothing if it's town.
- It's also almost never mafia, because mafia won't just 2-post on day 1 specifically to avoid being misyeeted for this exact reason, even if they don't really want to play the game. People who 0-post as mafia are very specific players for whom it's sort of a meta tell, from my experience.
- Given these two, it gives you nothing 99% of the time and you're probably removing a town slot from the game.

Bad.

Someone even mentioned in the thread that TH liked being mafia and would probably be more active if she had a red rolecard. I think it went mostly ignored, though.

i mean, i don’t think trip even checked her role card until she posted. i think she genuinely just had forgotten the game was happening and then when when she saw it was, she didn’t want to be bothered reading so many posts so she just asked to sub out, none of which is AI. her chances of being scum were exactly rand in a vacuum, maybe more than rand depending on things like poe

[Epignosis]

I keep looking for Turnip Head in this.

From an outsider's perspective, what baffles me most is why, after the myriad of posts and interactions that occurred Day 1, someone with two was determined to be the best candidate for death? From what I can tell, there were over 1,200 posts when Imposter TH first caught wind that this had started.

Who among the Imposter TH voters would you say had more reason to vote a more substantial candidate instead of ending up on a two-poster?

[Hally]

TSP/Ted/Dunyagnosis/Wilgy/LC (??)
112 I don't know anymore.

Tony read - I agree that the one post everyone quoted from him around EoD was very towny. I don't find it clearing, and I think he has been really out of his depth in this game. It feels like he doesn't have the slightest idea what he wants to do in the thread whenever he is in the thread, and I get the feeling he's not exactly comfortable here.

fair. he’ll probably be eliminated at some point i imagine just by virtue of other people being townier unless he gets townier himself. but i think he was towny enough on D1 to the point where it was correct to not eliminate him and give him some more time

[Epignosis]

And yes, what I'm asking people to do is accuse one another of this, even if you currently believe that individual is good.

[tedxtr]

catch you all in the morning

wilgy / epi / arete / + 1

idk how many mafia there are but yeeting in there feels more than fine in this game state

glgl

[Hally]

Wilgy's EoD reads to me like "I will make sure TH dies. I will make sure I can't be yeeted over TH, because I posted more."
And potentially "I will save my partner TSP with my vote" with TSP mafia.
Like, if you wanted to kill a lowposter on day 1, you should've picked Wilgy, I think. But the past is the past.

good thing there’s a D2

[tedxtr]

maybe in that exact order

[Hally]

Привет дураки

hey epi! thought you were retired from playing so good to see you

You have thought correctly. A retired carpenter can still mend a roof from time to time.

lol, glad to have you

[Epignosis]

maybe in that exact order

Birthday lynchings do have currency around here still.

[Hally]

This is a game that is in sore need of MP’s cheerleading

This game was pretty fun and lighthearted for D0/most of D1, let’s keep that energy going!

yea, i feel like people are getting a bit doomsday over misliming trip but i honestly don’t think it’s a big deal? it was d1, mislims happen. not reason to panic or start throwing away tr’s or anything

[tedxtr]

maybe in that exact order

Birthday lynchings do have currency around here still.

[Hally]

hi Vul

did you ever explain why your posts are worded like you're writing a term paper

You could say I'm trying out a way of playing the game which should yield better results than it has before?
Trying it offsite, so that there would be no biases, made the most sense to me.

now i feel bad getting arete to play lol

vul: “i will try to change my play style and join this off site game so nobody knows me and there’s no biases”
me: “HEY ARETE VUL IS PLAYING ON THE SYNDICATE YOU SHOULD SIGN UP TOO”

[Epignosis]

This is a game that is in sore need of MP’s cheerleading

This game was pretty fun and lighthearted for D0/most of D1, let’s keep that energy going!

yea, i feel like people are getting a bit doomsday over misliming trip but i honestly don’t think it’s a big deal? it was d1, mislims happen. not reason to panic or start throwing away tr’s or anything

What I want folks to do is take that (least helpful, in my opinion) outcome and make something out of it. Do you believe everyone calling for the two-poster's head is a civilian? It's a very easy way to skate by Day 1 because, as you say, "they happen." And in the Epignosis school of being bad, avoiding losing a teammate Day 1 tends to be a harbinger of success.

[Hally]

ohhhhhhhh we play turbos

i'm a moran

lol yes, hi. im hally, the one everyone mislims D1 every time. same hally. i just actually know how to play non-turbos so im a completely different player yet still the same

[Hally]

I feel like all I'm doing is having pointless arguments over things that don't matter.
I feel good enough about my PoE, let's win the game.

now we’re talking!!!!!!!

[Vulgard]

hi Vul

did you ever explain why your posts are worded like you're writing a term paper

You could say I'm trying out a way of playing the game which should yield better results than it has before?
Trying it offsite, so that there would be no biases, made the most sense to me.

now i feel bad getting arete to play lol

vul: “i will try to change my play style and join this off site game so nobody knows me and there’s no biases”
me: “HEY ARETE VUL IS PLAYING ON THE SYNDICATE YOU SHOULD SIGN UP TOO”

I honestly really wanted to play a game with you both, so I don't mind that at all.

By the way, Arete might be 3p based on their very low investment. They despise randing 3p.
But they are not groupscum, that much I know for certain at this point.

[tedxtr]

ohhhhhhhh we play turbos

i'm a moran

lol yes, hi. im hally, the one everyone mislims D1 every time. same hally. i just actually know how to play non-turbos so im a completely different player yet still the same

Yeah i don’t really compare turbos to normals because I believe there’s a slightly different skillset but it makes sense that you’d think about that probably

[Vulgard]

hi Vul

did you ever explain why your posts are worded like you're writing a term paper

You could say I'm trying out a way of playing the game which should yield better results than it has before?
Trying it offsite, so that there would be no biases, made the most sense to me.

now i feel bad getting arete to play lol

vul: “i will try to change my play style and join this off site game so nobody knows me and there’s no biases”
me: “HEY ARETE VUL IS PLAYING ON THE SYNDICATE YOU SHOULD SIGN UP TOO”

Also, did you actually do that? That's awesome, I really appreciate the gesture. Playing with Arete is fun until we rand opposite alignment and have no idea how to dance around one another.

[Vulgard]

ohhhhhhhh we play turbos

i'm a moran

lol yes, hi. im hally, the one everyone mislims D1 every time. same hally. i just actually know how to play non-turbos so im a completely different player yet still the same

Yeah i don’t really compare turbos to normals because I believe there’s a slightly different skillset but it makes sense that you’d think about that probably

I've always felt like turbos were just a bonanza of snapreads, gut instinct and random votes. Am I wrong?

[Vulgard]

This is a game that is in sore need of MP’s cheerleading

This game was pretty fun and lighthearted for D0/most of D1, let’s keep that energy going!

yea, i feel like people are getting a bit doomsday over misliming trip but i honestly don’t think it’s a big deal? it was d1, mislims happen. not reason to panic or start throwing away tr’s or anything

What I want folks to do is take that (least helpful, in my opinion) outcome and make something out of it. Do you believe everyone calling for the two-poster's head is a civilian? It's a very easy way to skate by Day 1 because, as you say, "they happen." And in the Epignosis school of being bad, avoiding losing a teammate Day 1 tends to be a harbinger of success.

I clicked the link in your signature and I don't regret it one bit. Great stuff. Right up my alley, I like the genre a lot.

[Vulgard]

Yeah, I think I've decided that I'm not going to be overly paranoid until I'm alive in like, a d3/d4 situation with lots of my townreads still alive. Then I can panic over misclears.

[Epignosis]

This is a game that is in sore need of MP’s cheerleading

This game was pretty fun and lighthearted for D0/most of D1, let’s keep that energy going!

yea, i feel like people are getting a bit doomsday over misliming trip but i honestly don’t think it’s a big deal? it was d1, mislims happen. not reason to panic or start throwing away tr’s or anything

What I want folks to do is take that (least helpful, in my opinion) outcome and make something out of it. Do you believe everyone calling for the two-poster's head is a civilian? It's a very easy way to skate by Day 1 because, as you say, "they happen." And in the Epignosis school of being bad, avoiding losing a teammate Day 1 tends to be a harbinger of success.

I clicked the link in your signature and I don't regret it one bit. Great stuff. Right up my alley, I like the genre a lot.

Thanks for listening, Vulgard. We'll have to talk more. I'm recording in between posts as we speak for album #4.

[tedxtr]

ohhhhhhhh we play turbos

i'm a moran

lol yes, hi. im hally, the one everyone mislims D1 every time. same hally. i just actually know how to play non-turbos so im a completely different player yet still the same

Yeah i don’t really compare turbos to normals because I believe there’s a slightly different skillset but it makes sense that you’d think about that probably

I've always felt like turbos were just a bonanza of snapreads, gut instinct and random votes. Am I wrong?

You’re right and wrong :P

[tedxtr]

Oh yes I remember listening to the songs a long time ago and was rather surprised, very good songs :P

[Vulgard]

Arete, can you, like... give reads? Anything? Or you can just hardclaim 3p if you are that and it's not scumsided.
Though I guess the rules forbid you from doing that...?

[Vulgard]

Like, you're usually solvier than this as town.
But you are also "solvier than this" as mafia.
What gives?

[Hally]

This is a game that is in sore need of MP’s cheerleading

This game was pretty fun and lighthearted for D0/most of D1, let’s keep that energy going!

yea, i feel like people are getting a bit doomsday over misliming trip but i honestly don’t think it’s a big deal? it was d1, mislims happen. not reason to panic or start throwing away tr’s or anything

What I want folks to do is take that (least helpful, in my opinion) outcome and make something out of it. Do you believe everyone calling for the two-poster's head is a civilian? It's a very easy way to skate by Day 1 because, as you say, "they happen." And in the Epignosis school of being bad, avoiding losing a teammate Day 1 tends to be a harbinger of success.

well the one pushing for trip to die the most was nook, my strongest tr. joining him on the wagon were myself as well as tutuu and arete who i also tr, tony who i tr less strongly and then wilgy who can just die afaic. idk if this answers your question or not

[Hally]

hi Vul

did you ever explain why your posts are worded like you're writing a term paper

You could say I'm trying out a way of playing the game which should yield better results than it has before?
Trying it offsite, so that there would be no biases, made the most sense to me.

now i feel bad getting arete to play lol

vul: “i will try to change my play style and join this off site game so nobody knows me and there’s no biases”
me: “HEY ARETE VUL IS PLAYING ON THE SYNDICATE YOU SHOULD SIGN UP TOO”

I honestly really wanted to play a game with you both, so I don't mind that at all.

By the way, Arete might be 3p based on their very low investment. They despise randing 3p.
But they are not groupscum, that much I know for certain at this point.

noted

[Epignosis]

This is a game that is in sore need of MP’s cheerleading

This game was pretty fun and lighthearted for D0/most of D1, let’s keep that energy going!

yea, i feel like people are getting a bit doomsday over misliming trip but i honestly don’t think it’s a big deal? it was d1, mislims happen. not reason to panic or start throwing away tr’s or anything

What I want folks to do is take that (least helpful, in my opinion) outcome and make something out of it. Do you believe everyone calling for the two-poster's head is a civilian? It's a very easy way to skate by Day 1 because, as you say, "they happen." And in the Epignosis school of being bad, avoiding losing a teammate Day 1 tends to be a harbinger of success.

well the one pushing for trip to die the most was nook, my strongest tr. joining him on the wagon were myself as well as tutuu and arete who i also tr, tony who i tr less strongly and then wilgy who can just die afaic. idk if this answers your question or not

Can you tell me why the underlined is a thing for you?

[Hally]

ohhhhhhhh we play turbos

i'm a moran

lol yes, hi. im hally, the one everyone mislims D1 every time. same hally. i just actually know how to play non-turbos so im a completely different player yet still the same

Yeah i don’t really compare turbos to normals because I believe there’s a slightly different skillset but it makes sense that you’d think about that probably

fair. i absolutely suck at turbos and do think they’re generally different skillsets, yea. but i consider you one of the best regular turboers and i think that your skill there does translate to normal games from what i can tell

[Hally]

hi Vul

did you ever explain why your posts are worded like you're writing a term paper

You could say I'm trying out a way of playing the game which should yield better results than it has before?
Trying it offsite, so that there would be no biases, made the most sense to me.

now i feel bad getting arete to play lol

vul: “i will try to change my play style and join this off site game so nobody knows me and there’s no biases”
me: “HEY ARETE VUL IS PLAYING ON THE SYNDICATE YOU SHOULD SIGN UP TOO”

Also, did you actually do that? That's awesome, I really appreciate the gesture. Playing with Arete is fun until we rand opposite alignment and have no idea how to dance around one another.

yea, i pinged them and katze to let them know that you signed up in spec chat

[Hally]

ohhhhhhhh we play turbos

i'm a moran

lol yes, hi. im hally, the one everyone mislims D1 every time. same hally. i just actually know how to play non-turbos so im a completely different player yet still the same

Yeah i don’t really compare turbos to normals because I believe there’s a slightly different skillset but it makes sense that you’d think about that probably

I've always felt like turbos were just a bonanza of snapreads, gut instinct and random votes. Am I wrong?

and katze’s fake cop claims. don’t forget that

[Hally]

Oh yes I remember listening to the songs a long time ago and was rather surprised, very good songs :P

yea epi has some real talent

hey epi, i just remembered you were gonna do an acoustic set over discord at one point? are you still planning on that?

[Hally]

This is a game that is in sore need of MP’s cheerleading

This game was pretty fun and lighthearted for D0/most of D1, let’s keep that energy going!

yea, i feel like people are getting a bit doomsday over misliming trip but i honestly don’t think it’s a big deal? it was d1, mislims happen. not reason to panic or start throwing away tr’s or anything

What I want folks to do is take that (least helpful, in my opinion) outcome and make something out of it. Do you believe everyone calling for the two-poster's head is a civilian? It's a very easy way to skate by Day 1 because, as you say, "they happen." And in the Epignosis school of being bad, avoiding losing a teammate Day 1 tends to be a harbinger of success.

well the one pushing for trip to die the most was nook, my strongest tr. joining him on the wagon were myself as well as tutuu and arete who i also tr, tony who i tr less strongly and then wilgy who can just die afaic. idk if this answers your question or not

Can you tell me why the underlined is a thing for you?

a few reasons
- hes very active, and i don’t think he would be that active as scum
- he actually seems to care about the game and solving it
- everything in his process and how he’s playing and making reads and his attitude and just... literally everything is textbook town!nook

[Hally]

oh wow im actually caught up finally

just a thought i had while catching up, but epi seems fairly towny to me in his brief time here? just seems to be genuinely trying to get a handle on things and start lines of inquiry that he’s intent on following up on and like generally making inroads/trying to start hacking away somehow. idk i don’t have any issues with what he’s doing rn

[Hally]

it’s really going to take some seismic shift in the universe to get me to vote someone other than wilgy next day

[Vulgard]

DrWilgy? More like, DrWilgetyeeted.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Idk I could also see voting 112 tbh

[TonyStarkPrime]

I'm here for 12 minutes.

[Epignosis]

Oh yes I remember listening to the songs a long time ago and was rather surprised, very good songs :P

yea epi has some real talent

hey epi, i just remembered you were gonna do an acoustic set over discord at one point? are you still planning on that?

Thank you for the kind words. I ended up invited to a party, so I couldn't do it. I did an acoustic set earlier this year and then an electric one. I'll maybe do that second acoustic set after this Walrus thing has concluded.

[Epignosis]

I ordinarily find it difficult to establish clear opinions of people so quickly after replacing in, especially people I don't know (hello). But I have some. I'll share at the commencement of Day 2.

[Hally]

DrWilgy? More like, DrWilgetyeeted.

[Hally]

Idk I could also see voting 112 tbh

no. wilgy first, then re-evaluate depending on his flip

[TonyStarkPrime]

Adding Epi doubles our "people with greek names" count

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Meh. I’d probably rather do 112/LC tbh but I’m not gonna fight it

[Hally]

Oh yes I remember listening to the songs a long time ago and was rather surprised, very good songs :P

yea epi has some real talent

hey epi, i just remembered you were gonna do an acoustic set over discord at one point? are you still planning on that?

Thank you for the kind words. I ended up invited to a party, so I couldn't do it. I did an acoustic set earlier this year and then an electric one. I'll maybe do that second acoustic set after this Walrus thing has concluded.

awesome, looking forward to it if you decide to do it

how much of the game have you read btw? did you just jump straight in and start interacting or did you back read at all?

[TonyStarkPrime]

People were like "let's kill the 2-poster" and for some reason, people were on board with that. That was really, really bad and I had higher expectations.
Which is why I'm trying to find the TH voters, but I'm coming up short.

weh