Escape From Russia [GAME OVER]

[Long Con]

@Long Con id like a full reads list from you with perhaps one line of reasoning for each read at your earliest convenience. thanks

112 - scum. I voted for her on Day 1, and she OMGUSed me, still happy to jump on an LC vote. Too eager.
Arete - town... players who are new to me are harder to read, I think.
Ash Lael - town, new player. I recall nodding along with some posts.
DrWilgy- I dunno. No one does.
Epignosis - null. I was willing to chop dunya, but I also liked Epi's push to investigate the Triple chop, and focus on those who had reason to vote elsewhere. Leaning town on Tony though, so a close chop between two town would yield less fruit. Maybe looking at those earlier trains that dissipated after Nanook led the way to Triple's train would be more beneficial.
Hally - town I guess.
Long Con - town. Chop away, this is what you want.
Michelle - town. I think she's genuine.
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME - scum. I have disagreed with most of Nanook's reasoning, and found it devoid of value. This may be a usual thing and NAI, because of his slavish devotion to PoE, but I think that very devotion can easily used to hide behind as scum. "I don't need to hunt - I'm just going PoE! Who's the next low hanging fruit on the menu?"
Poison Chan - town, I like the volume and I like the content
tedxtr - lean scum, but he's been scum so many times is it valid?
TonyStarkPrime - town, I liked his Day 1 twilight post
Vulgard - town, his posts a few hours ago kind of locked him as town for me, for now at least

When did you start townreading me?

Mid-to-late day 1, I'd estimate.

[Hally]

Super dumb read, Hally is town because if she couldn't spot Radishes as joat she definitely wouldn't spot tutuu as doc.

(yes I know wolves have partners)

listen. i wasnt itt for his softs and then i died

Ok ok you can still be a wolf if you insist.

ty

[Hally]

didn’t mac say wilgy is a very good scum player and wouldn’t slank so much as scum? because this is hard core slanking

Then there’s this later which ended up keeping Wilgy from being the cw

which you verified as true....

[Ash Lael]

@Long Con id like a full reads list from you with perhaps one line of reasoning for each read at your earliest convenience. thanks

112 - scum. I voted for her on Day 1, and she OMGUSed me, still happy to jump on an LC vote. Too eager.
Arete - town... players who are new to me are harder to read, I think.
Ash Lael - town, new player. I recall nodding along with some posts.
DrWilgy- I dunno. No one does.
Epignosis - null. I was willing to chop dunya, but I also liked Epi's push to investigate the Triple chop, and focus on those who had reason to vote elsewhere. Leaning town on Tony though, so a close chop between two town would yield less fruit. Maybe looking at those earlier trains that dissipated after Nanook led the way to Triple's train would be more beneficial.
Hally - town I guess.
Long Con - town. Chop away, this is what you want.
Michelle - town. I think she's genuine.
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME - scum. I have disagreed with most of Nanook's reasoning, and found it devoid of value. This may be a usual thing and NAI, because of his slavish devotion to PoE, but I think that very devotion can easily used to hide behind as scum. "I don't need to hunt - I'm just going PoE! Who's the next low hanging fruit on the menu?"
Poison Chan - town, I like the volume and I like the content
tedxtr - lean scum, but he's been scum so many times is it valid?
TonyStarkPrime - town, I liked his Day 1 twilight post
Vulgard - town, his posts a few hours ago kind of locked him as town for me, for now at least

When did you start townreading me?

Mid-to-late day 1, I'd estimate.

I recall late day one you were still expressing willingness to get on board with lynching me.

[Epignosis]

actually considering pushing lc over wilgy next day, which is... not where i was like 30 min ago

I would vote Long Con, yes.

did you iso him? i know you have more experience with him than me so im curious about your read there

This is one I skimmed. I saw he said he would vote for me, so I took a peek.

Getting rid of low posters is good town play

I’m here to preach not to argue

Not good Day 1 play.

i agree, so why were you voting for me?

I liked Michelle's case.

I'd be interested to know what Long Con liked about Michelle's "case." It amounted to circular reasoning and "too many wolves."

Michelle's case for reference.

I, like Michelle, dislike an early certainty of reads. I didn't like how dunya was throwing shade at Michelle for trying a different style, it's a cheap shot, and I don't think delving into something like that, especially early, is particularly thoughtful scumhunting. I thought Michelle's criticism of dunya's "holier than thou tone" post in response to Ash was astute. At the end, Michelle challenges us to find reasons to townread dunya. Reading back over dunya's posts with that in mind, I could see them being scummy.

I don't recall this from you as a civilian. Or at all, really.

So Michelle is trying a new style. That V guy is trying a new style. I guess it is autumn now, isn't it?

[Hally]

The Hally/Wilgy argument is actually valid, I think.

Like, I don't think that's the world we're in, but she totally did play a role in making TH Tony's counterwagon instead of Wilgy. And now she's pushing Long Con ahead of him.

A scum strategy where the powerwolf keeps pushing some other scummy player as a marginally better choice than their PoE partner could be a thing.

i mean yes, if you were hellbent on ascribing evil intent to my play this game this is how you’d do it

[Long Con]

@Long Con id like a full reads list from you with perhaps one line of reasoning for each read at your earliest convenience. thanks

112 - scum. I voted for her on Day 1, and she OMGUSed me, still happy to jump on an LC vote. Too eager.
Arete - town... players who are new to me are harder to read, I think.
Ash Lael - town, new player. I recall nodding along with some posts.
DrWilgy- I dunno. No one does.
Epignosis - null. I was willing to chop dunya, but I also liked Epi's push to investigate the Triple chop, and focus on those who had reason to vote elsewhere. Leaning town on Tony though, so a close chop between two town would yield less fruit. Maybe looking at those earlier trains that dissipated after Nanook led the way to Triple's train would be more beneficial.
Hally - town I guess.
Long Con - town. Chop away, this is what you want.
Michelle - town. I think she's genuine.
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME - scum. I have disagreed with most of Nanook's reasoning, and found it devoid of value. This may be a usual thing and NAI, because of his slavish devotion to PoE, but I think that very devotion can easily used to hide behind as scum. "I don't need to hunt - I'm just going PoE! Who's the next low hanging fruit on the menu?"
Poison Chan - town, I like the volume and I like the content
tedxtr - lean scum, but he's been scum so many times is it valid?
TonyStarkPrime - town, I liked his Day 1 twilight post
Vulgard - town, his posts a few hours ago kind of locked him as town for me, for now at least

When did you start townreading me?

Mid-to-late day 1, I'd estimate.

I recall late day one you were still expressing willingness to get on board with lynching me.

Maybe. My answer was a vague estimate.

[Hally]

@Long Con id like a full reads list from you with perhaps one line of reasoning for each read at your earliest convenience. thanks

112 - scum. I voted for her on Day 1, and she OMGUSed me, still happy to jump on an LC vote. Too eager.
Arete - town... players who are new to me are harder to read, I think.
Ash Lael - town, new player. I recall nodding along with some posts.
DrWilgy- I dunno. No one does.
Epignosis - null. I was willing to chop dunya, but I also liked Epi's push to investigate the Triple chop, and focus on those who had reason to vote elsewhere. Leaning town on Tony though, so a close chop between two town would yield less fruit. Maybe looking at those earlier trains that dissipated after Nanook led the way to Triple's train would be more beneficial.
Hally - town I guess.
Long Con - town. Chop away, this is what you want.
Michelle - town. I think she's genuine.
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME - scum. I have disagreed with most of Nanook's reasoning, and found it devoid of value. This may be a usual thing and NAI, because of his slavish devotion to PoE, but I think that very devotion can easily used to hide behind as scum. "I don't need to hunt - I'm just going PoE! Who's the next low hanging fruit on the menu?"
Poison Chan - town, I like the volume and I like the content
tedxtr - lean scum, but he's been scum so many times is it valid?
TonyStarkPrime - town, I liked his Day 1 twilight post
Vulgard - town, his posts a few hours ago kind of locked him as town for me, for now at least

alright, gonna sit with this and see how you play this day. my mind isn’t made up

[Long Con]

actually considering pushing lc over wilgy next day, which is... not where i was like 30 min ago

I would vote Long Con, yes.

did you iso him? i know you have more experience with him than me so im curious about your read there

This is one I skimmed. I saw he said he would vote for me, so I took a peek.

Getting rid of low posters is good town play

I’m here to preach not to argue

Not good Day 1 play.

i agree, so why were you voting for me?

I liked Michelle's case.

I'd be interested to know what Long Con liked about Michelle's "case." It amounted to circular reasoning and "too many wolves."

Michelle's case for reference.

I, like Michelle, dislike an early certainty of reads. I didn't like how dunya was throwing shade at Michelle for trying a different style, it's a cheap shot, and I don't think delving into something like that, especially early, is particularly thoughtful scumhunting. I thought Michelle's criticism of dunya's "holier than thou tone" post in response to Ash was astute. At the end, Michelle challenges us to find reasons to townread dunya. Reading back over dunya's posts with that in mind, I could see them being scummy.

I don't recall this from you as a civilian. Or at all, really.

So Michelle is trying a new style. That V guy is trying a new style. I guess it is autumn now, isn't it?

Either you've been gone too long, or not paying enough attention.

[Ash Lael]

@Long Con id like a full reads list from you with perhaps one line of reasoning for each read at your earliest convenience. thanks

112 - scum. I voted for her on Day 1, and she OMGUSed me, still happy to jump on an LC vote. Too eager.
Arete - town... players who are new to me are harder to read, I think.
Ash Lael - town, new player. I recall nodding along with some posts.
DrWilgy- I dunno. No one does.
Epignosis - null. I was willing to chop dunya, but I also liked Epi's push to investigate the Triple chop, and focus on those who had reason to vote elsewhere. Leaning town on Tony though, so a close chop between two town would yield less fruit. Maybe looking at those earlier trains that dissipated after Nanook led the way to Triple's train would be more beneficial.
Hally - town I guess.
Long Con - town. Chop away, this is what you want.
Michelle - town. I think she's genuine.
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME - scum. I have disagreed with most of Nanook's reasoning, and found it devoid of value. This may be a usual thing and NAI, because of his slavish devotion to PoE, but I think that very devotion can easily used to hide behind as scum. "I don't need to hunt - I'm just going PoE! Who's the next low hanging fruit on the menu?"
Poison Chan - town, I like the volume and I like the content
tedxtr - lean scum, but he's been scum so many times is it valid?
TonyStarkPrime - town, I liked his Day 1 twilight post
Vulgard - town, his posts a few hours ago kind of locked him as town for me, for now at least

When did you start townreading me?

Mid-to-late day 1, I'd estimate.

I recall late day one you were still expressing willingness to get on board with lynching me.

Maybe. My answer was a vague estimate.

Okay. Can you recall a specific thing I did or said that made you change your mind about me?

[Long Con]

@Long Con id like a full reads list from you with perhaps one line of reasoning for each read at your earliest convenience. thanks

112 - scum. I voted for her on Day 1, and she OMGUSed me, still happy to jump on an LC vote. Too eager.
Arete - town... players who are new to me are harder to read, I think.
Ash Lael - town, new player. I recall nodding along with some posts.
DrWilgy- I dunno. No one does.
Epignosis - null. I was willing to chop dunya, but I also liked Epi's push to investigate the Triple chop, and focus on those who had reason to vote elsewhere. Leaning town on Tony though, so a close chop between two town would yield less fruit. Maybe looking at those earlier trains that dissipated after Nanook led the way to Triple's train would be more beneficial.
Hally - town I guess.
Long Con - town. Chop away, this is what you want.
Michelle - town. I think she's genuine.
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME - scum. I have disagreed with most of Nanook's reasoning, and found it devoid of value. This may be a usual thing and NAI, because of his slavish devotion to PoE, but I think that very devotion can easily used to hide behind as scum. "I don't need to hunt - I'm just going PoE! Who's the next low hanging fruit on the menu?"
Poison Chan - town, I like the volume and I like the content
tedxtr - lean scum, but he's been scum so many times is it valid?
TonyStarkPrime - town, I liked his Day 1 twilight post
Vulgard - town, his posts a few hours ago kind of locked him as town for me, for now at least

alright, gonna sit with this and see how you play this day. my mind isn’t made up

Not convinced of that, but you just do whatcha gotta do.

[Ash Lael]

@Long Con id like a full reads list from you with perhaps one line of reasoning for each read at your earliest convenience. thanks

112 - scum. I voted for her on Day 1, and she OMGUSed me, still happy to jump on an LC vote. Too eager.
Arete - town... players who are new to me are harder to read, I think.
Ash Lael - town, new player. I recall nodding along with some posts.
DrWilgy- I dunno. No one does.
Epignosis - null. I was willing to chop dunya, but I also liked Epi's push to investigate the Triple chop, and focus on those who had reason to vote elsewhere. Leaning town on Tony though, so a close chop between two town would yield less fruit. Maybe looking at those earlier trains that dissipated after Nanook led the way to Triple's train would be more beneficial.
Hally - town I guess.
Long Con - town. Chop away, this is what you want.
Michelle - town. I think she's genuine.
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME - scum. I have disagreed with most of Nanook's reasoning, and found it devoid of value. This may be a usual thing and NAI, because of his slavish devotion to PoE, but I think that very devotion can easily used to hide behind as scum. "I don't need to hunt - I'm just going PoE! Who's the next low hanging fruit on the menu?"
Poison Chan - town, I like the volume and I like the content
tedxtr - lean scum, but he's been scum so many times is it valid?
TonyStarkPrime - town, I liked his Day 1 twilight post
Vulgard - town, his posts a few hours ago kind of locked him as town for me, for now at least

alright, gonna sit with this and see how you play this day. my mind isn’t made up

Not convinced of that, but you just do whatcha gotta do.

You think Hally's mind is made up?

[Hally]

lc, you acknowledge that nook always plays like this as town. what makes him scum this time as opposed to town who is just using the same method he always does?

[TonyStarkPrime]

didn’t mac say wilgy is a very good scum player and wouldn’t slank so much as scum? because this is hard core slanking

Then there’s this later which ended up keeping Wilgy from being the cw

I'm more interesting in understanding why Mac's opinion about Wilgy is relevant here to anyone.

You all know that

1) Mac isn't in this and
2) Mac says utter bullshit to advance whatever Mac (sober or otherwise) wishes to advance

Right?

Well the view I’m positing that you don’t like is that Hally brought it up to steer the lynch away from Wilgy

[TonyStarkPrime]

The Hally/Wilgy argument is actually valid, I think.

Like, I don't think that's the world we're in, but she totally did play a role in making TH Tony's counterwagon instead of Wilgy. And now she's pushing Long Con ahead of him.

A scum strategy where the powerwolf keeps pushing some other scummy player as a marginally better choice than their PoE partner could be a thing.

What the heck
I take it all back
Everything I said was wrong

[TonyStarkPrime]

tony, you don’t really seem like you want to kill wilgy today. is that fair to say? who do you want to kill instead if you could pick anyone?

This post was made when it looked like Wilgy was the likely counterwagon.

what about that post indicates im teamed with wilgy? i kinda struggle to believe this is a genuine take

Do you agree that without this post Wilgy dies

[Long Con]

@Long Con id like a full reads list from you with perhaps one line of reasoning for each read at your earliest convenience. thanks

112 - scum. I voted for her on Day 1, and she OMGUSed me, still happy to jump on an LC vote. Too eager.
Arete - town... players who are new to me are harder to read, I think.
Ash Lael - town, new player. I recall nodding along with some posts.
DrWilgy- I dunno. No one does.
Epignosis - null. I was willing to chop dunya, but I also liked Epi's push to investigate the Triple chop, and focus on those who had reason to vote elsewhere. Leaning town on Tony though, so a close chop between two town would yield less fruit. Maybe looking at those earlier trains that dissipated after Nanook led the way to Triple's train would be more beneficial.
Hally - town I guess.
Long Con - town. Chop away, this is what you want.
Michelle - town. I think she's genuine.
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME - scum. I have disagreed with most of Nanook's reasoning, and found it devoid of value. This may be a usual thing and NAI, because of his slavish devotion to PoE, but I think that very devotion can easily used to hide behind as scum. "I don't need to hunt - I'm just going PoE! Who's the next low hanging fruit on the menu?"
Poison Chan - town, I like the volume and I like the content
tedxtr - lean scum, but he's been scum so many times is it valid?
TonyStarkPrime - town, I liked his Day 1 twilight post
Vulgard - town, his posts a few hours ago kind of locked him as town for me, for now at least

When did you start townreading me?

Mid-to-late day 1, I'd estimate.

I recall late day one you were still expressing willingness to get on board with lynching me.

Maybe. My answer was a vague estimate.

Okay. Can you recall a specific thing I did or said that made you change your mind about me?

No, I can't. It could be just your general approach to the game that, at some point along the way, made me say "yeah, this could be town." That feeling might have been simmering before the point that you referenced where I said I'd still chop you. I don't rely too heavily on my early reads, and am willing to go back to "yeah, I remember suspecting him for that thing earlier, maybe I was right then and not now, let's find out."

[TonyStarkPrime]

The Hally/Wilgy argument is actually valid, I think.

Like, I don't think that's the world we're in, but she totally did play a role in making TH Tony's counterwagon instead of Wilgy. And now she's pushing Long Con ahead of him.

A scum strategy where the powerwolf keeps pushing some other scummy player as a marginally better choice than their PoE partner could be a thing.

You would have to convince me that Hally is bad. Can you do that?

Somethin somethin Bayes

[Long Con]

@Long Con id like a full reads list from you with perhaps one line of reasoning for each read at your earliest convenience. thanks

112 - scum. I voted for her on Day 1, and she OMGUSed me, still happy to jump on an LC vote. Too eager.
Arete - town... players who are new to me are harder to read, I think.
Ash Lael - town, new player. I recall nodding along with some posts.
DrWilgy- I dunno. No one does.
Epignosis - null. I was willing to chop dunya, but I also liked Epi's push to investigate the Triple chop, and focus on those who had reason to vote elsewhere. Leaning town on Tony though, so a close chop between two town would yield less fruit. Maybe looking at those earlier trains that dissipated after Nanook led the way to Triple's train would be more beneficial.
Hally - town I guess.
Long Con - town. Chop away, this is what you want.
Michelle - town. I think she's genuine.
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME - scum. I have disagreed with most of Nanook's reasoning, and found it devoid of value. This may be a usual thing and NAI, because of his slavish devotion to PoE, but I think that very devotion can easily used to hide behind as scum. "I don't need to hunt - I'm just going PoE! Who's the next low hanging fruit on the menu?"
Poison Chan - town, I like the volume and I like the content
tedxtr - lean scum, but he's been scum so many times is it valid?
TonyStarkPrime - town, I liked his Day 1 twilight post
Vulgard - town, his posts a few hours ago kind of locked him as town for me, for now at least

alright, gonna sit with this and see how you play this day. my mind isn’t made up

Not convinced of that, but you just do whatcha gotta do.

You think Hally's mind is made up?

She's really excited about this Long Con chop. She's a Thread Leader now.

[Ash Lael]

I think if Hally wants Wilgy to live she just gets on board with the Tony wagon though. Unless the team is exactly Tony/Wilgy/Hally I guess. But I doubt Wilgy and Tony are paired, so that's a pretty unlikely world.

[TonyStarkPrime]

didn’t mac say wilgy is a very good scum player and wouldn’t slank so much as scum? because this is hard core slanking

Then there’s this later which ended up keeping Wilgy from being the cw

which you verified as true....

Yes

[Long Con]

lc, you acknowledge that nook always plays like this as town. what makes him scum this time as opposed to town who is just using the same method he always does?

I will probably never stop suspecting him for it, because it's plainly such an effortless thing to base his game around, and if that's all it takes to be read as town then he's going to take everyone to the cleaners each and every time he rolls scum. Just depends on which side of history you want to be on.

[Hally]

tony, you don’t really seem like you want to kill wilgy today. is that fair to say? who do you want to kill instead if you could pick anyone?

This post was made when it looked like Wilgy was the likely counterwagon.

what about that post indicates im teamed with wilgy? i kinda struggle to believe this is a genuine take

Do you agree that without this post Wilgy dies

absolutely not. wilgy had like three votes. you had like five or six. i don’t think my one post raising doubt that wilgy was scum saved him from what otherwise would have been his inevitable death. that’s pretty silly

[TonyStarkPrime]

I think if Hally wants Wilgy to live she just gets on board with the Tony wagon though. Unless the team is exactly Tony/Wilgy/Hally I guess. But I doubt Wilgy and Tony are paired, so that's a pretty unlikely world.

Why do you doubt that Wilgy and Tony are paired

[TonyStarkPrime]

tony, you don’t really seem like you want to kill wilgy today. is that fair to say? who do you want to kill instead if you could pick anyone?

This post was made when it looked like Wilgy was the likely counterwagon.

what about that post indicates im teamed with wilgy? i kinda struggle to believe this is a genuine take

Do you agree that without this post Wilgy dies

absolutely not. wilgy had like three votes. you had like five or six. i don’t think my one post raising doubt that wilgy was scum saved him from what otherwise would have been his inevitable death. that’s pretty silly

Okay, rather what the post is emblematic of. You didn’t get behind chopping Wilgy and did get behind chopping Trip. It’s something worth noting.

[Ash Lael]

I think if Hally wants Wilgy to live she just gets on board with the Tony wagon though. Unless the team is exactly Tony/Wilgy/Hally I guess. But I doubt Wilgy and Tony are paired, so that's a pretty unlikely world.

Why do you doubt that Wilgy and Tony are paired

Because he blatantly asked you where he should vote in thread, and that's not something I would expect a partner to do.

Like maybe some high level wolves relying on wifom would, but unless Wilgy contains depths I haven't seen I'm pretty sceptical that exactly he does it.

[Hally]

like you’re making it sound like wilgy was headed for certain death and then i hard defended him and everyone was like “welp guess we can’t vote him now and have to kill trip.” but no part of that is even close to true

[TonyStarkPrime]

like you’re making it sound like wilgy was headed for certain death and then i hard defended him and everyone was like “welp guess we can’t vote him now and have to kill trip.” but no part of that is even close to true

this is not the interpretation I wish to be presenting

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

LC’s insulting me so now I think he’s lock scum

[Hally]

lc, you acknowledge that nook always plays like this as town. what makes him scum this time as opposed to town who is just using the same method he always does?

I will probably never stop suspecting him for it, because it's plainly such an effortless thing to base his game around, and if that's all it takes to be read as town then he's going to take everyone to the cleaners each and every time he rolls scum. Just depends on which side of history you want to be on.

ok

[Epignosis]

didn’t mac say wilgy is a very good scum player and wouldn’t slank so much as scum? because this is hard core slanking

Then there’s this later which ended up keeping Wilgy from being the cw

I'm more interesting in understanding why Mac's opinion about Wilgy is relevant here to anyone.

You all know that

1) Mac isn't in this and
2) Mac says utter bullshit to advance whatever Mac (sober or otherwise) wishes to advance

Right?

Well the view I’m positing that you don’t like is that Hally brought it up to steer the lynch away from Wilgy

Hell, I'm trying to get people to pick people other than Wilgy. It's boring and keeps mafia safe. If you are mafia, and Wilgy is on your team, you don't give a shit what happens to him because he isn't here. Oh well. If you are a civilian, then you should be trying to pin everybody else down. None of this "The game is on autopilot" bullshit (looking at you birthday boy ted).

If I'm Wilgy's teammate, I don't defend him. He either wins for us or he self-destructs. Hally isn't mafia.

[TonyStarkPrime]

why was th yeeted is a funny question and the question probably should be why was th yeeted /over wilgy/

I posited Hally/Wilgy as an answer to this question. I think the question maintains importance. A possible answer is "it just worked out that way"

[Ash Lael]

Tony, If Hally is a wolf, why are you alive?

[TonyStarkPrime]

didn’t mac say wilgy is a very good scum player and wouldn’t slank so much as scum? because this is hard core slanking

Then there’s this later which ended up keeping Wilgy from being the cw

I'm more interesting in understanding why Mac's opinion about Wilgy is relevant here to anyone.

You all know that

1) Mac isn't in this and
2) Mac says utter bullshit to advance whatever Mac (sober or otherwise) wishes to advance

Right?

Well the view I’m positing that you don’t like is that Hally brought it up to steer the lynch away from Wilgy

Hell, I'm trying to get people to pick people other than Wilgy. It's boring and keeps mafia safe. If you are mafia, and Wilgy is on your team, you don't give a shit what happens to him because he isn't here. Oh well. If you are a civilian, then you should be trying to pin everybody else down. None of this "The game is on autopilot" bullshit (looking at you birthday boy ted).

If I'm Wilgy's teammate, I don't defend him. He either wins for us or he self-destructs. Hally isn't mafia.

Steering away from Wilgy onto the only person with less posts I don't think exactly counts as that but I'll grant that Hally didn't really push TH if I recall correctly.

[Epignosis]

Long Con! What did you do?

[Epignosis]

Long Con
5
50%


Voters: NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, Arete, Ash Lael, 112, Hally

[TonyStarkPrime]

Tony, If Hally is a wolf, why are you alive?

Hally probably doesn't care and might prefer if the two poster will get subbed out town gets chopped over the chaotic mdf bait town?

Like taken to its extreme this question implies that all three wolves were voting for me?

[Ash Lael]

Long Con! What did you do?

Nothing much. That's the problem.

[TonyStarkPrime]

Long Con at L-2 two hours into the day like this is philo mafia

[Epignosis]

Long Con
5
50%


Voters: NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, Arete, Ash Lael, 112, Hally

Who is mafia here?

[TonyStarkPrime]

10. Additional gameplay elements will be added/revealed on an as-needed basis.

waiting for something cool to happen

[Hally]

tony, you don’t really seem like you want to kill wilgy today. is that fair to say? who do you want to kill instead if you could pick anyone?

This post was made when it looked like Wilgy was the likely counterwagon.

what about that post indicates im teamed with wilgy? i kinda struggle to believe this is a genuine take

Do you agree that without this post Wilgy dies

absolutely not. wilgy had like three votes. you had like five or six. i don’t think my one post raising doubt that wilgy was scum saved him from what otherwise would have been his inevitable death. that’s pretty silly

Okay, rather what the post is emblematic of. You didn’t get behind chopping Wilgy and did get behind chopping Trip. It’s something worth noting.

this is a mischaracterization. from my perspective when i checked in at eod you were going to be the elimination. you had five or six votes and i thought you were going over. i wasn’t on board with killing you D1. i think i was one of three votes on wilgy at the time and 112 also had three votes. i didn’t want to kill 112 either. then i unvoted wilgy, who as far as i could tell wasn’t dying even with my vote because people seemed intent on killing you and nobody was moving to wilgy. then i voted sleep as a placeholder just to be like “i dont like 112 or tony as options.” then i switched to trip and was maybe the second or third vote there. and that was really just a placeholder and i did not think trip would gain traction over you and go over. but apparently since everyone just blindly sheeps me this game trip ended up with six votes, which i was fine with because i thought it was better than killing you

this is what EoD looked like from my pov. i didn’t think wilgy was a real option. i didn’t even think trip was. i just wanted to vote someone who wasn’t you. but this narrative that i was gunning for trip and was hard against wilgy is not accurate. what i was against really was killing you or 112

[Long Con]

What's philo mafia?

Long Con! What did you do?

Only what they made me do.

[Long Con]

Long Con
5
50%


Voters: NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, Arete, Ash Lael, 112, Hally

Who is mafia here?

Nanook, 112.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Long Con at L-2 two hours into the day like this is philo mafia

There’s no hammer

[Epignosis]

Long Con
5
50%


Voters: NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, Arete, Ash Lael, 112, Hally

Who is mafia here?

Nanook, 112.

What's your take on those two?

[Hally]

didn’t mac say wilgy is a very good scum player and wouldn’t slank so much as scum? because this is hard core slanking

Then there’s this later which ended up keeping Wilgy from being the cw

I'm more interesting in understanding why Mac's opinion about Wilgy is relevant here to anyone.

You all know that

1) Mac isn't in this and
2) Mac says utter bullshit to advance whatever Mac (sober or otherwise) wishes to advance

Right?

Well the view I’m positing that you don’t like is that Hally brought it up to steer the lynch away from Wilgy

Hell, I'm trying to get people to pick people other than Wilgy. It's boring and keeps mafia safe. If you are mafia, and Wilgy is on your team, you don't give a shit what happens to him because he isn't here. Oh well. If you are a civilian, then you should be trying to pin everybody else down. None of this "The game is on autopilot" bullshit (looking at you birthday boy ted).

If I'm Wilgy's teammate, I don't defend him. He either wins for us or he self-destructs. Hally isn't mafia.

epi is a villager

[Michelle]

Morning
Rip tutuu, now she will focus on math better i think wolves wanted to help her studying

Super dumb read, Hally is town because if she couldn't spot Radishes as joat she definitely wouldn't spot tutuu as doc.

(yes I know wolves have partners)

Spotting malice here we really touched Radishes as what if is Joat in day 1 if you read the chat but it was hard to observe this during the game, so it was dropped and in N1 Roro was considered obvious Joat and killed because of this.

What benefit for this game has your post? You feel the need to dumb clear Hally for what you said instead observing her effort during the game?
You probably want to show you constantly reevaluate reads but this is forced.

Looks performative, so

[VOTE: Ash] aubergine

[Epignosis]

[VOTE: 112] aubergine

Whom do you suspect and why?

[TonyStarkPrime]

tony, you don’t really seem like you want to kill wilgy today. is that fair to say? who do you want to kill instead if you could pick anyone?

This post was made when it looked like Wilgy was the likely counterwagon.

what about that post indicates im teamed with wilgy? i kinda struggle to believe this is a genuine take

Do you agree that without this post Wilgy dies

absolutely not. wilgy had like three votes. you had like five or six. i don’t think my one post raising doubt that wilgy was scum saved him from what otherwise would have been his inevitable death. that’s pretty silly

Okay, rather what the post is emblematic of. You didn’t get behind chopping Wilgy and did get behind chopping Trip. It’s something worth noting.

this is a mischaracterization. from my perspective when i checked in at eod you were going to be the elimination. you had five or six votes and i thought you were going over. i wasn’t on board with killing you D1. i think i was one of three votes on wilgy at the time and 112 also had three votes. i didn’t want to kill 112 either. then i unvoted wilgy, who as far as i could tell wasn’t dying even with my vote because people seemed intent on killing you and nobody was moving to wilgy. then i voted sleep as a placeholder just to be like “i dont like 112 or tony as options.” then i switched to trip and was maybe the second or third vote there. and that was really just a placeholder and i did not think trip would gain traction over you and go over. but apparently since everyone just blindly sheeps me this game trip ended up with six votes, which i was fine with because i thought it was better than killing you

this is what EoD looked like from my pov. i didn’t think wilgy was a real option. i didn’t even think trip was. i just wanted to vote someone who wasn’t you. but this narrative that i was gunning for trip and was hard against wilgy is not accurate. what i was against really was killing you or 112

Noted. Uh, the lack of voting logs makes this hard. All games should be played on MU.