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MovingPictures07 wrote:
Leamiteo wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:MP is now, imo, posting much ore as I am accustomed. No HUGE posts yet though. :ponder:

:biggrin:
Hey now, there is plenty of time for the huge posts to develop! Let's not encourage the bogging down the thread just yet. ;)

We love you, MP! :p
Indeed, just give it time. :feb: Though actually, between preparing to move to San Antonio and my job and doing other things, we'll see. I'm not sure how talkative I will be. But during the free time I do have, you can bet you'll be hearing from me. :p
*GASP!* No way?! Well shoot, I'm glad I got to see you last weekend! I'll never see you again! :disappoint: :overreact: OK, that's a lie. But good luck with all that!!! Moving and whatnot.
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I'm gonna have to random vote today because this weekend is just too busy for me to have my mafia head on. I don't know if I'll be back before the deadline so I'll just do it now to be safe. Randomiser wants me to go with *Snow Dog*.
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Leamiteo wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
Leamiteo wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:MP is now, imo, posting much ore as I am accustomed. No HUGE posts yet though. :ponder:

:biggrin:
Hey now, there is plenty of time for the huge posts to develop! Let's not encourage the bogging down the thread just yet. ;)

We love you, MP! :p
Indeed, just give it time. :feb: Though actually, between preparing to move to San Antonio and my job and doing other things, we'll see. I'm not sure how talkative I will be. But during the free time I do have, you can bet you'll be hearing from me. :p
*GASP!* No way?! Well shoot, I'm glad I got to see you last weekend! I'll never see you again! :disappoint: :overreact: OK, that's a lie. But good luck with all that!!! Moving and whatnot.
Yes! I am getting my PhD in Accounting at UTSA. Well, I am not moving until early August, so if there's a chance I could see you again in the midst there, maybe not! So right now I am just researching and trying to find the right place, plan the trip to visit down there, etc.

Thanks!! It is very exciting but also a bit of a pain and a bit nerve wracking. But overall very exciting!
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Bullzeye wrote:I'm gonna have to random vote today because this weekend is just too busy for me to have my mafia head on. I don't know if I'll be back before the deadline so I'll just do it now to be safe. Randomiser wants me to go with *Snow Dog*.
How dare you vote someone on their first game back from an almost year-long break? !!!!
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vote someone on D1 in their first game back*
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I don't understand why you would expect an aggressive Dom on Day 1? Is he normally aggressive on Day 1?

I am more inclined to pay attention to the INH thing personally (I think it was INH anyway, I just did the fastest catch up read ever, lol)I was not reading Juliet's as " mean spirited" at all. I find it odd that he phrased that post the way he did, and have to agree it seems like he made her post into more than it actually was.

linki: leamyconstant, if you come visit me some weekend you may see him again before he moves... :hugs:

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Spacedaisy wrote:I don't understand why you would expect an aggressive Dom on Day 1? Is he normally aggressive on Day 1?

I am more inclined to pay attention to the INH thing personally (I think it was INH anyway, I just did the fastest catch up read ever, lol)I was not reading Juliet's as " mean spirited" at all. I find it odd that he phrased that post the way he did, and have to agree it seems like he made her post into more than it actually was.

linki: leamyconstant, if you come visit me some weekend you may see him again before he moves... :hugs:

Also, we need a smiley with batting eyelashes on this site....
Hmmmm... that's a good question; is he? Sometimes he is. I just was thinking Pokemon since that's the most recent game I've played with him and he was super aggressive against Bullz while I was in the game (I will refrain from saying more as the game is still in progress) and my encounters with him in the past where we were aggressive against each other, but maybe I've over-simplifying my picture of his gameplay.

Maybe others who have played with him often can help?

And you think the INH thing is worthy of attention? Why? That surprises me a bit. I mean, I disagree with him; I didn't see juliets as mean-spirited at all. But don't you find this to fall under 'normal' behavior for INH? He always has some pretty wacky theories, like Zombies, which follow him almost regardless of alignment. I just feel like an INH vote is a cop-out vote and there's no reason to believe INH's disagreeing with juliets makes him baddie.
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Spacedaisy wrote:linki: leamyconstant, if you come visit me some weekend you may see him again before he moves... :hugs:

Also, we need a smiley with batting eyelashes on this site....
I'm really hoping the 4th of July weekend works for me to make a trip down! Fingers crossed! We could play ticket to ride!!! :D And Yes! Eyelashes and a waving one. Wow, I'm feeling emphatic apparently, so many exclamation marks.

Also, leamyconstant is now my favorite nickname of all time. :hugs:
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MovingPictures07 wrote:Ugh, I'll have to vote soon; Daisy and I have a day filled with activities, and I doubt I'll be back in time to vote. I wish I knew what many other players were thinking right now.

And now I have two votes to decide, lol. :P

Linki with juliets: Eh, I personally don't feel Dom was being insincere, but I feel I have hardly any other viable options if I want to avoid: random voting or voting for a random voter or low poster. The only player I felt any sort of ping of possible insincerity was FZ. and I don't feel strongly about that at all. Llama has a pretty good gut when he's civvie, and so far I see no reason to think he's bad, and I do sense Dom being a bit "off" (subdued, but not suspicious), but maybe llama has caught something I haven't. That's the only reason I'm considering it.

What do you think of Dom? I'm used to aggressive Dom and I haven't seen that yet so it does make me wonder.

What are you thinking of doing with your vote?
Yeah I haven't seen Dom's posts as insincere either. I am also used to a more aggressive Dom but it's only Day 1 and I don't see him as suspicious for not being aggressive this early. That might change as time goes by. I was not aware of llama's instincts on baddies so I'll keep an eye on that, both is he good and can I trust his suggestions.

I'm thinking about giving my vote to inh today because of his over the top reaction to my thought about voting for someone who seems to be just posting filler posts. I wasn't even thinking of inh so i certainly wasn't accusing him but his reaction pinged me - he sounded so defensive over something so small. Between now and 4:00 something else could come up or I could be convinced to vote elsewhere but that's all I've got for right now.

linki but posting anway
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MovingPictures07 wrote:
Spacedaisy wrote:I don't understand why you would expect an aggressive Dom on Day 1? Is he normally aggressive on Day 1?

I am more inclined to pay attention to the INH thing personally (I think it was INH anyway, I just did the fastest catch up read ever, lol)I was not reading Juliet's as " mean spirited" at all. I find it odd that he phrased that post the way he did, and have to agree it seems like he made her post into more than it actually was.

linki: leamyconstant, if you come visit me some weekend you may see him again before he moves... :hugs:

Also, we need a smiley with batting eyelashes on this site....
Hmmmm... that's a good question; is he? Sometimes he is. I just was thinking Pokemon since that's the most recent game I've played with him and he was super aggressive against Bullz while I was in the game (I will refrain from saying more as the game is still in progress) and my encounters with him in the past where we were aggressive against each other, but maybe I've over-simplifying my picture of his gameplay.

Maybe others who have played with him often can help?

And you think the INH thing is worthy of attention? Why? That surprises me a bit. I mean, I disagree with him; I didn't see juliets as mean-spirited at all. But don't you find this to fall under 'normal' behavior for INH? He always has some pretty wacky theories, like Zombies, which follow him almost regardless of alignment. I just feel like an INH vote is a cop-out vote and there's no reason to believe INH's disagreeing with juliets makes him baddie.
What part of what conversation is in question? I'm not finding it as I scan back through...
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Re: The Hobbit Mafia

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juliets wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:Ugh, I'll have to vote soon; Daisy and I have a day filled with activities, and I doubt I'll be back in time to vote. I wish I knew what many other players were thinking right now.

And now I have two votes to decide, lol. :P

Linki with juliets: Eh, I personally don't feel Dom was being insincere, but I feel I have hardly any other viable options if I want to avoid: random voting or voting for a random voter or low poster. The only player I felt any sort of ping of possible insincerity was FZ. and I don't feel strongly about that at all. Llama has a pretty good gut when he's civvie, and so far I see no reason to think he's bad, and I do sense Dom being a bit "off" (subdued, but not suspicious), but maybe llama has caught something I haven't. That's the only reason I'm considering it.

What do you think of Dom? I'm used to aggressive Dom and I haven't seen that yet so it does make me wonder.

What are you thinking of doing with your vote?
Yeah I haven't seen Dom's posts as insincere either. I am also used to a more aggressive Dom but it's only Day 1 and I don't see him as suspicious for not being aggressive this early. That might change as time goes by. I was not aware of llama's instincts on baddies so I'll keep an eye on that, both is he good and can I trust his suggestions.

I'm thinking about giving my vote to inh today because of his over the top reaction to my thought about voting for someone who seems to be just posting filler posts. I wasn't even thinking of inh so i certainly wasn't accusing him but his reaction pinged me - he sounded so defensive over something so small. Between now and 4:00 something else could come up or I could be convinced to vote elsewhere but that's all I've got for right now.

linki but posting anway
Eh, I really just don't like an INH vote. If he is bad, I know this could come back to haunt me, but out of anyone in the game right now my gut is most likely to say he isn't bad, to be quite frank. I am seeing a very sincere INH, not a nefarious (how's that, CBK?) one.

I mean, I get the reasons, but I'm afraid it's only because he is acting in an odd way that's gotten him attention. He reacts over-defensively quite a bit; I wouldn't say it makes him baddie. Civvies can be over-defensive too.
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MovingPictures07 wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
Leamiteo wrote:
Epignosis wrote:Posts like these...what is their purpose? What are they meant to accomplish?

1. It expresses a suspicion but an unwillingness to act on it.
2. It may be enough of an impetus for others to vote that way, so that
a. if Boogs (or whoever) is lynched and is bad, the person posting this could say, "I knew something was off with him. Great job guys!"
b. if Boogs (or whoever) is lynched and is good, the person posting this could say, "I'm glad I showed restraint with regard to my own vote."
3. Wouldn't voting for the first person to cast a random vote be, in its own way, a random vote?
linki: But really though, Epi makes a good point here.
Okay, sure, but personally I feel I need to talk through every single thought that I'm thinking because that's how I work best to baddie hunt. Question the content or purpose of my posts if you need, but I personally feel everything I'm saying serves some purpose, and what Epig fails to mention is that baddies can be caught in situations where they continuously post and vote things like expressed in his 2a and 2b points. Personally, I'm of the "more discussion = better" camp, and people have every right they want to disagree. Sometimes though, a fellow civvie can help convince you that maybe you were thinking of something the way they were, and that maybe there was some substance to it. Besides, when you're not lying, you have nothing to lose, and I lay it all out there. My baddie game is based on trying to make it seem like my civvie game as much as possible, and my civvie game is defined by expressing every single thing I'm thinking that I feel helps contribute to finding baddies or to help sorting through my thoughts.

My playstyle gets a lot of flak, and I've tried changing it even, but I never will because it's just how I play, even if sometimes the "purpose" of some of my posts is questionable. But you could argue the same of so many other type of posts in the game as well.
Huh. :ponder:
What are you thinking?
It is presently Day 1. Your post count is 39 and you have used more words than a Hemingway short story. In Pokemon, which has just concluded, and in which you were recruited early to the bad guy team, you had 39 living posts. That game lasted 5 Day phases.

Therefore I find the enlarged statement incompatible with the above. But what could that mean?

I think that, in a game with a single evil team, one who is on that team must be especially cautious in how one carries oneself. But in a game with two or more evil factions, there is a greater urge to hunt for evildoers, because there is a chance that one might ferret out someone on the other team, which is a threat to the team one is on.

In WWE, you were on a bad team and there was another bad team. You rivaled James Joyce in both prolixity and clarity. But in Pokemon, with one evil team, you averaged fewer than 8 posts every 72 hours.

So my conclusion is that your Mafia style does not mirror your civilian style, as you claim. Your Mafia style when there is one team is decidedly different from your Mafia style when there is more than one team.

Now I must decide what bearing, if any, that has on my vote today.
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Re: The Hobbit Mafia

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Leamiteo, the "INH thing" refers to this post:
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juliets wrote:I may vote for the person with the most "filler" posts - posts that are only tangentially or not at all related to the thread.
Ok, I can see some problems with this. What denominates "filler"? Is it OT posts? What about posts that are only half OT? Are those considered one half in your scoring system? What about jokes? If I post a suspicion of someone, and add a joke at the end, does that count as "filler"? Also, if I post 8 "filler" posts and 2 "on-topic" posts, would I be ranked higher or lower in your magical "filler" system than someone with only 2 "filler" posts in the thread? If you deem a post to be "filler", can someone dispute that claim?

On a "serious" note, I'm not sure I like this. One of the reasons I love this site is the banter, which you affectionately refer to as "filler". Even if you don't enjoy it, persecuting those who do just seems kind mean-spirited. Also, my "strategy" is to usually sit back and observe for the first few cycles, and see what developments happen. I don't want to be misconstrued as inactive, so I post "filler", usually with some connection to the game. It doesn't mean I'm not taking the game seriously, I just play it in a different way. For you to condemn players like me because of it, strikes me as a bit rude.
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MovingPictures07 wrote:Eh, I really just don't like an INH vote. If he is bad, I know this could come back to haunt me, but out of anyone in the game right now my gut is most likely to say he isn't bad, to be quite frank. I am seeing a very sincere INH, not a nefarious (how's that, CBK?) one.
Careful, the "nefarious" count is rising, and I'll be casting my vote soon. ;) Imo, malicious or vicious would suffice, nefarious is such a strong word.
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Epignosis wrote:
It is presently Day 1. Your post count is 39 and you have used more words than a Hemingway short story. In Pokemon, which has just concluded, and in which you were recruited early to the bad guy team, you had 39 living posts. That game lasted 5 Day phases.

Therefore I find the enlarged statement incompatible with the above. But what could that mean?

I think that, in a game with a single evil team, one who is on that team must be especially cautious in how one carries oneself. But in a game with two or more evil factions, there is a greater urge to hunt for evildoers, because there is a chance that one might ferret out someone on the other team, which is a threat to the team one is on.

In WWE, you were on a bad team and there was another bad team. You rivaled James Joyce in both prolixity and clarity. But in Pokemon, with one evil team, you averaged fewer than 8 posts every 72 hours.

So my conclusion is that your Mafia style does not mirror your civilian style, as you claim. Your Mafia style when there is one team is decidedly different from your Mafia style when there is more than one team.

Now I must decide what bearing, if any, that has on my vote today.
Maybe you're right; maybe my baddie game has tells and nuances that I don't notice. At least in my baddie game that's what I try to do and I think I do a pretty good job (but not a good job at avoiding death).

And actually you make a very good point about one mafia team v. two. Pokemon also only had 15 players and hardly anyone talking early on; this game has 30 and others besides myself have said quite a bit more already than what was said in the first few day periods of that game. But you're right in that changes the whole dynamic of the game, especially for the lone baddie team. At least with two baddie teams you can catch other baddies. As someone who has been in both situations, I can say it makes me feel more comfortable and less paranoid. I prefer games with two baddie teams.

What you fail to consider are other factors that would change the frequency with which I post: This game is on this site (I feel more comfortable here than anywhere else, and thus, will post more than on games on other sites, in general), and that the frequency with which I post is also contingent on my workload/schedule (it is currently a Saturday, so I have much more time to post), and the biggest flaw is that you fail to see that I post like a maniac regardless of alignment. The first game that comes to mind is Homestar Runner where I was a civvie and I posted more by the time Day 1 was over than I have so far in this game, I would imagine, since I posted A TON in that game. I do in every game I can.

If you think my post count makes me suspicious, by all means, but I think you're trying to build the groundwork for votes against me today and I can't help but feel it makes you seem a bit shady. I'm trying to avoid that feeling of persecution though and realize that you're just speaking what you feel, but I do wonder about aggressive civvie-minded Epignosis v. manipulating baddie Epignosis all the time, so you'll have to excuse me on that front. Since we're both aggressive and often more talkative players, and you have quite an amazing legacy of insane baddie wins, I find myself questioning your intentions perhaps more than others, so take my feelings with that considered.
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MovingPictures07 wrote:Leamiteo, the "INH thing" refers to this post:
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juliets wrote:I may vote for the person with the most "filler" posts - posts that are only tangentially or not at all related to the thread.
Ok, I can see some problems with this. What denominates "filler"? Is it OT posts? What about posts that are only half OT? Are those considered one half in your scoring system? What about jokes? If I post a suspicion of someone, and add a joke at the end, does that count as "filler"? Also, if I post 8 "filler" posts and 2 "on-topic" posts, would I be ranked higher or lower in your magical "filler" system than someone with only 2 "filler" posts in the thread? If you deem a post to be "filler", can someone dispute that claim?

On a "serious" note, I'm not sure I like this. One of the reasons I love this site is the banter, which you affectionately refer to as "filler". Even if you don't enjoy it, persecuting those who do just seems kind mean-spirited. Also, my "strategy" is to usually sit back and observe for the first few cycles, and see what developments happen. I don't want to be misconstrued as inactive, so I post "filler", usually with some connection to the game. It doesn't mean I'm not taking the game seriously, I just play it in a different way. For you to condemn players like me because of it, strikes me as a bit rude.
Oohhh, that. Thanks!

Pshh. I personally don't think that this is worth all the hype and attention it's getting. Have fun is the first and seventh rule! Filler post are half of what Mafia is made of!

That alone is not worth my vote at least. A bit defensive, possibly, but hey, it's all in good fun right?
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MovingPictures07 wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
It is presently Day 1. Your post count is 39 and you have used more words than a Hemingway short story. In Pokemon, which has just concluded, and in which you were recruited early to the bad guy team, you had 39 living posts. That game lasted 5 Day phases.

Therefore I find the enlarged statement incompatible with the above. But what could that mean?

I think that, in a game with a single evil team, one who is on that team must be especially cautious in how one carries oneself. But in a game with two or more evil factions, there is a greater urge to hunt for evildoers, because there is a chance that one might ferret out someone on the other team, which is a threat to the team one is on.

In WWE, you were on a bad team and there was another bad team. You rivaled James Joyce in both prolixity and clarity. But in Pokemon, with one evil team, you averaged fewer than 8 posts every 72 hours.

So my conclusion is that your Mafia style does not mirror your civilian style, as you claim. Your Mafia style when there is one team is decidedly different from your Mafia style when there is more than one team.

Now I must decide what bearing, if any, that has on my vote today.
Maybe you're right; maybe my baddie game has tells and nuances that I don't notice. At least in my baddie game that's what I try to do and I think I do a pretty good job (but not a good job at avoiding death).

And actually you make a very good point about one mafia team v. two. Pokemon also only had 15 players and hardly anyone talking early on; this game has 30 and others besides myself have said quite a bit more already than what was said in the first few day periods of that game. But you're right in that changes the whole dynamic of the game, especially for the lone baddie team. At least with two baddie teams you can catch other baddies. As someone who has been in both situations, I can say it makes me feel more comfortable and less paranoid. I prefer games with two baddie teams.

What you fail to consider are other factors that would change the frequency with which I post: This game is on this site (I feel more comfortable here than anywhere else, and thus, will post more than on games on other sites, in general), and that the frequency with which I post is also contingent on my workload/schedule (it is currently a Saturday, so I have much more time to post), and the biggest flaw is that you fail to see that I post like a maniac regardless of alignment. The first game that comes to mind is Homestar Runner where I was a civvie and I posted more by the time Day 1 was over than I have so far in this game, I would imagine, since I posted A TON in that game. I do in every game I can.

If you think my post count makes me suspicious, by all means, but I think you're trying to build the groundwork for votes against me today and I can't help but feel it makes you seem a bit shady. I'm trying to avoid that feeling of persecution though and realize that you're just speaking what you feel, but I do wonder about aggressive civvie-minded Epignosis v. manipulating baddie Epignosis all the time, so you'll have to excuse me on that front. Since we're both aggressive and often more talkative players, and you have quite an amazing legacy of insane baddie wins, I find myself questioning your intentions perhaps more than others, so take my feelings with that considered.
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Leamiteo, agreed completely.

And Epig, lol, I'm not complaining, those are just my thoughts; do you have any others? You haven't even said you're suspicious of anyone, so I'm curious what you're thinking.
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You really don't think it is a strong post? I mean he basically said he thinks she is rude for considering voting people who are posting but she doesn't feel are contributing? Seems a bit over the top to me. As far as anything I have seen onDay1, it would be the thing I would feel most comfortable voting for. I mean, it is Day 1 and I don't like random voting, though I don't hold it against anyone who chooses to do so.
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Re: The Hobbit Mafia

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Post by Tangrowth »

Also, I appreciate the comparison to James Joyce. :P

Linki with Daisy: It is a strong post. INH often has strong posts, as we all know. Since when did strong = baddie? I feel I'm missing something here.
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Re: The Hobbit Mafia

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Alright kids, I gotta head out. I have stuff to accomplish before this wedding!

I have no pings, I never do early on. (And by ever I mean this is my third game on this site :haha: )

votes Vompatti

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Re: The Hobbit Mafia

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If I have to vote for something on Day 1, I am more likely to vote for something that seems like an unnecessarily strong post than random vote. If you feel more comfortable voting for Dom for lack of aggressiveness, go for it. I just don't know that I expect anyone to be all that aggressive on Day 1, unless there is some slip up or something.

Linki: leamyconstant, I would never judge you! Vote for who you wish for whatever reason you choose.

I'm casting my vote for INH for lack of anything better, or for time to wait and see if anything else develops.
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Re: The Hobbit Mafia

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Spacedaisy wrote:If I have to vote for something on Day 1, I am more likely to vote for something that seems like an unnecessarily strong post than random vote. If you feel more comfortable voting for Dom for lack of aggressiveness, go for it. I just don't know that I expect anyone to be all that aggressive on Day 1, unless there is some slip up or something.

Linki: leamyconstant, I would never judge you! Vote for who you wish for whatever reason you choose.

I'm casting my vote for INH for lack of anything better, or for time to wait and see if anything else develops.
I still don't understand; you didn't explain to me how unnecessarily strong posts make someone bad.

I'm voting for you, in a twist of events. :feb:
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Re: The Hobbit Mafia

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Alright, have to go now.

Vompatti, just randomize your vote (since I know you're hardcore and actually randomize it and you like to do so) between Dom and Daisy. I would include FZ. as well but she doesn't have a vote and I don't want to spread it any more than I just did.
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Re: The Hobbit Mafia

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MovingPictures07 wrote:Leamiteo, agreed completely.

And Epig, lol, I'm not complaining, those are just my thoughts; do you have any others? You haven't even said you're suspicious of anyone, so I'm curious what you're thinking.
Do I ever say who I am suspicious of on Day 1? Better part of valor and all that rot. ;)
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Re: The Hobbit Mafia

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MovingPictures07 wrote:What say you, llama, how about a non-poster?
thellama73 wrote:It's early yet, but I could get behind that. As I've said many times, a non-posting civ is almost as bad as a baddie, so there's not much to lose.
MovingPictures07 wrote:I think I seriously might pull a Llama and vote a non-poster if there are still some that haven't shown up by tomorrow. I don't know. I want to see how people react.
MovingPictures07 wrote:Llama, what are you thinking then?

[...]

Maybe I'll follow you in your Dom vote. Because why not?
First off, I don't see how voting a non-poster on Day 1 is any worse than randomizing. It's still random, just amongst a smaller pool of players. You brought up the idea before Day 1 had even started, and tried to get llama on board. Once llama said "It's early yet, but I could get behind that", MovingPictures then pawned the idea off on Llama: "I think I seriously might pull a Llama and vote a non-poster", when Llama hadn't even voted and MP was the one to bring up the idea in the first place. Then, Llama expresses some suspicion of Dom, and MP says he might follow that, too. What's your angle trying to buddy up to Llama, MP?

linki: And there you go voting for Spacedaisy instead, causing me to rethink your intentions :P

linki linki: Wait, and you're also controlling Vompatti's vote to go toward one of those players? Do you even have any suspicion of Dom yourself or are you just piggybacking on Llama's suspicion?
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Re: The Hobbit Mafia

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I should also say that I have no problem with a spread vote today, it being Day 1 and all. One thing that Pokemon Mafia just taught me: if by some miracle we actually end up placing the most votes on a baddie today, the other baddies will have to be super obvious about trying to save said baddie, or else will be forced to sacrifice him/her. Win-win, IMO. A bandwagon tells us nothing, really.
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Re: The Hobbit Mafia

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MovingPictures07 wrote:Llama has a pretty good gut when he's civvie
Haha, no I don't. :haha:

My record is terrible. Sometime my gut is all I have though. :shrug:
Epignosis wrote:If llama is good, it means we exist in a universe in which multitasking llama can call out the first of two mafia while simultaneously calling out two civilians.

I don't want to live in that universe.
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Re: The Hobbit Mafia

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Turnip Head wrote:I should also say that I have no problem with a spread vote today, it being Day 1 and all. One thing that Pokemon Mafia just taught me: if by some miracle we actually end up placing the most votes on a baddie today, the other baddies will have to be super obvious about trying to save said baddie, or else will be forced to sacrifice him/her. Win-win, IMO. A bandwagon tells us nothing, really.
I don't agree with this at all. If the vote count between a large number of players is similar, it only takes one vote to shift the lynch from a baddie to a civvie. I don't see how that is "super obvious" at all.
Epignosis wrote:If llama is good, it means we exist in a universe in which multitasking llama can call out the first of two mafia while simultaneously calling out two civilians.

I don't want to live in that universe.
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Re: The Hobbit Mafia

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MovingPictures07 wrote:Vompatti, just randomize your vote (since I know you're hardcore and actually randomize it and you like to do so) between Dom and Daisy. I would include FZ. as well but she doesn't have a vote and I don't want to spread it any more than I just did.
You cite "not wanting to spread the vote" as a reason that Vompatti shouldn't vote for FZ. But how about the fact that you don't seem to really suspect her? An order of recent events:
MovingPictures07 wrote:So I just quickly glanced through the entire thread and it actually made me feel less sure about an FZ. vote. Dammit.
MovingPictures07 wrote:Maybe I just need to stick with my gut. But as you said, FZ. always is super eager to get the baddie hunting going, and upon re-read honestly I wasn't feeling the insincere vibe.
MovingPictures07 wrote:The only player I felt any sort of ping of possible insincerity was FZ. and I don't feel strongly about that at all.
MovingPictures07 wrote:I'm considering a vote for FZ., Dom, or a low poster/random voter vote, I guess. That still leaves me with way too many options.
Oh wait, somehow by the end of that she hopped back onto your radar. And why do you say that leaves you with way too many options? There's like 10 baddies in this game, which means there's 10 good options for today.

linki: All I'm saying llama is that I just saw it work out in the civvie's favor in another game, but to be fair it was a smaller game with only one baddie team. I don't think the vote should be a 30-way tie or anything, but keeping it between maybe 4 or 5 of the most suspicious players doesn't sound like a bad idea to me. I'm mainly just against a bandwagon, because I think that actually makes it easier for the baddies to blend in, and easier for them to manipulate how we view the results of the bandwagon. If the vote is spread, they have to be really careful about how they vote.
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Re: The Hobbit Mafia

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I do think it was odd that INH reacted rather strongly to Juliet, but this is pretty standard for him. Right now I'm not really suspicious of either, or anyone, for that matter, so I randomized and got FZ.
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I see your point, TH, and it's a good one.

I also see your point about MP buddying up to me. I have been reading him as civ so far, and he often likes to bounce ideas off me because we think about Mafia in similar ways, but I have to admit that him claiming I have a good gut, when that is manifestly false, is a little pingy to me.
Epignosis wrote:If llama is good, it means we exist in a universe in which multitasking llama can call out the first of two mafia while simultaneously calling out two civilians.

I don't want to live in that universe.
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Turnip Head wrote:I was waiting until we hit the top of a new page to post this :)
Depends on your board settings.
Epignosis wrote:If llama is good, it means we exist in a universe in which multitasking llama can call out the first of two mafia while simultaneously calling out two civilians.

I don't want to live in that universe.
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As far as I'm concerned, my board settings are the only ones that matter :noble: Feel free to copy and paste that post to the top of one of your pages, but for me it's at the top of page 8 , which means I can bookmark it on my phone and not have to scroll a bunch :P
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Turnip Head wrote:As far as I'm concerned, my board settings are the only ones that matter :noble: Feel free to copy and paste that post to the top of one of your pages, but for me it's at the top of page 8 , which means I can bookmark it on my phone and not have to scroll a bunch :P
I have the same settings as you, so no worries! :slick:
Epignosis wrote:If llama is good, it means we exist in a universe in which multitasking llama can call out the first of two mafia while simultaneously calling out two civilians.

I don't want to live in that universe.
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TH, you make some good points about MP, though it's llama's post that causes me the biggest ping. You're really not good with gut pings llama? Why in the world would MP say you were? Just as an excuse to vote Dom? I know you can't answer those questions llama they are really for MP to answer.
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Re: The Hobbit Mafia

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MovingPictures07 wrote:Alright, have to go now.

Vompatti, just randomize your vote (since I know you're hardcore and actually randomize it and you like to do so) between Dom and Daisy. I would include FZ. as well but she doesn't have a vote and I don't want to spread it any more than I just did.
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1. Dropped it (doesn't count).
2. Heads (Dom).
3. Tails (Daisy).
4. Dropped it.
5. Tails (Daisy).
6. Tails (Daisy).
7. Heads (Dom).
8. Tails (Daisy).

*votes Daisy*
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juliets wrote:TH, you make some good points about MP, though it's llama's post that causes me the biggest ping. You're really not good with gut pings llama? Why in the world would MP say you were? Just as an excuse to vote Dom? I know you can't answer those questions llama they are really for MP to answer.
I get a few right. But I have more often been wrong. It doesn't stop me from trusting my gut though when there's nothing else to go on.
Epignosis wrote:If llama is good, it means we exist in a universe in which multitasking llama can call out the first of two mafia while simultaneously calling out two civilians.

I don't want to live in that universe.
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Re: The Hobbit Mafia

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Leamiteo wrote: Have fun is the first and seventh rule!
And 11th!

And Turnip Head, thanks for posting the player quote links. Those will even be handy for me.
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I agree with llama that a spread vote makes it easier for the baddies to manipulate the lynch in their favor, but I also agree with MP/TH as well. If we go llama's way and pile votes on someone like Dom, chances are he will turn out civ and then we are left with not much info to go on. Day 1 is usually all about guessing and disappointment unfortunately.

Lots of names have been thrown around but I have no gut pings as of yet, my gut pings are usually right. I'd like to be able to wait and see if I get any, but there is not much time and I need to go ahead and vote b/c I have RL stuff to do.

Randomizing DFaraday. That's right....I don't want to be accountable for my vote :p

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MP's suspicion of FZ feels made up to me, lol. I reread her 7 posts and I don't see a single trace of anything that could be construed as "insincere". MP pushed the notion a few times before settling on not finding her suspicious but continues to namedrop FZ even after that.

I think one thing baddie-MP likes to do is toss out a suspicion, then intentionally waffle on it a few times before settling on something else. It makes it look like he's actively baddie hunting when really he's running himself around in a circle.

I don't really suspect MP for saying Llama has a good gut. I tend to think MP makes those sorts of generalizations all the time. Perhaps MP has seen Llama's gut instincts pay off moreso than not. Although I am questioning his intentions behind stating it.

Spacedaisy, what do you make of the fact that MP ended up quickly turning around and voting for you?
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Re: The Hobbit Mafia

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i randomized and got juliets
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Re: The Hobbit Mafia

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so many new posts o_o lots of stuff happening but none of it do i feel strongly enough about to warrant directing my vote towards yet,

i'm going to a party soon and I won't be around to vote, meaning i need to vote now, i randomized *DFaraday*
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Going with Flyin' High, because she and Spaghetti both have only one post in the game.
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Re: The Hobbit Mafia

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I feel like I'll repeat what many people have said, but here goes:

1) Spreading the vote sucks, but

2) I have no pings so far, so

3) I'm going to randomize right now because

4) OH GOD MY FAMILY HAS ARRIVED AT MY PLACE OF RESIDENCE and I must entertain them, meaning I clearly won't be back before the end of the vote.

Randomized and got BunnyKiller. I guess I'll be saving those poor, poor bunnies? :p
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nijuukyugou wrote:I feel like I'll repeat what many people have said, but here goes:

1) Spreading the vote sucks, but

2) I have no pings so far, so

3) I'm going to randomize right now because

4) OH GOD MY FAMILY HAS ARRIVED AT MY PLACE OF RESIDENCE and I must entertain them, meaning I clearly won't be back before the end of the vote.

Randomized and got BunnyKiller. I guess I'll be saving those poor, poor bunnies? :p
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Re: The Hobbit Mafia

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Randomized Kyle.
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Re: The Hobbit Mafia

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I'm voting for MP. He's the only player I'm even remotely suspicious of so far.
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Elohcin wrote:
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