My thoughts on that earlier post encapsulate my stance on him.
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My thoughts on that earlier post encapsulate my stance on him.
Escape from Trump Tower was one I think.Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:04 pm @Hally asked for previous games where I was suspected early. The ones where I distinctly remember becoming frustrated at early suspicions are U-Pick and Pyre. The only recent game where I was correctly suspected early was The Wire, but that was an odd situation because I was subbing into a slot that had been the subject of suspicion prior to my arrival.
It is 3 PM and I've done nothing but play this game today. I need to go do other things for a while.
nutella has a long history of tinfoiling me in every game. She admits this. She's said it in this game. She said in spec chat during all three of my champs games. It's a Thing. But the result is that it's kind of become white noise to me at this point. nutella is always going to suspect me for at least a little bit in every game regardless of her alignment, so it is sometimes hard to tell whether or not she's faking it.Thunal33 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 2:59 pm"or pretending to be"? Can you elaborate on your read on Nutella?Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 2:49 pmSorry Thunal!nutella wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 2:46 pm Thunal is a she. And I think you're overblowing the weirdness of that, I just assumed she hadn't realized about the name and didn't particularly remember anything from Carotte hence not having a townread on her lol. It's not the type of inconsistency I'm concerned with. Do you think there's something scum indicative about it?
I am wary of the progression and want to highlight it. I could see it coming from scum, but it doesn't need to. I want Thunal to respond to it before I say more.
You are either in a tunnel or pretending to be. If you want me to prove that I am town, let me do my thing.
how is there so much linki in a light game?
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:10 pm Not enough shrug emojis from Nanook, probably a wolf
Escape From Trump Tower. Apparently I was a wolf? I have no strong memories of this game. Sorry G. Oh it was the one where 112 carried us to victory.novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:08 pmEscape from Trump Tower was one I think.Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:04 pm @Hally asked for previous games where I was suspected early. The ones where I distinctly remember becoming frustrated at early suspicions are U-Pick and Pyre. The only recent game where I was correctly suspected early was The Wire, but that was an odd situation because I was subbing into a slot that had been the subject of suspicion prior to my arrival.
It is 3 PM and I've done nothing but play this game today. I need to go do other things for a while.![]()
And yet I don't think I ever had much significant tinfoil on you from spec for any of those games. Of course that's different from when I'm actually playing in games with you, and of course your play was different in the champs setting, but you have not come close to reaching that comfortable town status here.
What posts from Carotenoid specifically feel Not Bad to you?
I give Mafia lessonstutuu wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:11 pmnovaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:10 pm Not enough shrug emojis from Nanook, probably a wolf![]()
I wasn't trying to comment on your read of me in any of the champs game, I was just stating that you've acknowledged your own propensity for tinfoiling me in several places.nutella wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:13 pmAnd yet I don't think I ever had much significant tinfoil on you from spec for any of those games. Of course that's different from when I'm actually playing in games with you, and of course your play was different in the champs setting, but you have not come close to reaching that comfortable town status here.
I like the fact that she switched her read on me from suspicious to towny early on. I feel like that reevaluation is a little more likely to come from town.
I like the fact that she switched her read on me from suspicious to towny early on. I feel like that reevaluation is a little more likely to come from town.
^ I kinda want to townread this post, because I also had the vague idea that Martin was somewhat similar to Proto and that it's the archetype of player that w!Alison would want to pocket. Alison initial way of approaching Martin didn't seem like she was actively trying to pocket him and I don't think she would be disclosing that much "info" if she was a wolf.Alison wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 6:03 am Martin is just a very transparent player I think. There's something about the way he talks about managing information and how he feels his tell on Thunal can only be used once that rings of truth to me; I can sense the paranoia about being fooled by scum there. Honestly even this is like some attempt at verbalizing or rationalizing a gut read that was probably made for murkier reasons though.
I think I find players easier to read if their playstyle is similar to mine (duh). For instance I found proto's approach to the game very easy to read and vibe with, and I have a good track record of reading proto because of that. I suspect Martin is a similar case, and I townread him.
I thought the initial question was really pointless (because the answer would be evident) and that she was having some sort of underlying idea she wanted to test/wanted to convince Hally with her read of me, but then nothing happened. It doesn't bother as much today, I can see this being t!Alison.Thunal33 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 11:17 amWhat do you think town!Alison would follow up that read with? I don't follow up on every question that I ask that's been answered in a light game since I don't want to waste a post saying "oh, okay" if that would be my answer.Carotenoid wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 11:15 am I like Thunal more today.
I'm not sure if everyone understands that the person sent to the grassland only gets to shoot *among* the persons in the grassland? (most voted, least voted, sent by scum)
I think tutuu & nutella are town. I liked Nanook/SPF/nova/LC/JJJ with no particular order.
I have some mixed feelings about Alison. I think that the only thing I really disliked is how she asked Hally why I wasn't on their read list (I thought it was pretty evident that they jsut didn't have a read on me) and then not really followed up when Hally answered that they didn't have a read yet.
Hmnn okay. No, I'm just trying to understand what you were both thinking because the exchange seemed really weird to me.Hally wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 12:09 pmi thought her take on you dipping out after you said hi was agreeable because i’ve made reads off that in the past. i didn’t actually have that thought about you in this game but when i read alison’s post i liked itCarotenoid wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 2:01 amHmmn that doesn't really seem to justify how highly you townread her.
#127 you quoted the posts Alison made that you townread.
Townread tutuu and scumread Sloonei: pretty consensus among the players who posted.
The comment on Martin... Exist.
She also gut scumread me, so do(did?) you like... Agree?![]()
do you object to me town reading alison? i don’t really get the purpose of this post
I'm a bit confused about what you liked in my "reevaluation"? Because I didn't explain it at all.Thunal33 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 12:35 pm Oops I didn't realize Carotte was Carotenoid, I thought Carotte was a completely different player. I think Carotte looks okay so far, I like that she reevaluated on me. I have more of a "wait and see" read on both her and Sloonei, I think they'll become more readable later on.
Why is it specifically one between {Carotte, Sloonei} and one between {Martin, Thunal} and not like {Carotte, Thunal} for example?tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 1:13 pm IT HAS COME TO MY ATTENTION THAT 3 MEMBERS OF THIS PEACEFUL VILLAGE HAVE STARTED ARSONING FIRES EVERY NIGHT
I WILL EXTINGUISH YOUR FIRES WITH MY BURNNG FIREFIGHTER'S SOUL
THE ONLY THING THAT SHOULD BE BURNING IS YOUR HEART, BAKAS
ONE OF THOSE ARSONISTS IS ...
...
...
CAROTTE OR SLOONEI
THE SECOND ONE OF THOSE ARSONISTS IS ....
..
..
..
MARTIN OR THUNAL
AND THE LAST ARSONIST IS ...
..
..
..
Aww hi SlooneiSloonei wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 2:08 pmThere's also no mention of Sloonei in this post. Carot's earlier posts seemed to indicate something resembling a town lean on Sloonei. Where did it go?Carotenoid wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 11:15 am I like Thunal more today.
I'm not sure if everyone understands that the person sent to the grassland only gets to shoot *among* the persons in the grassland? (most voted, least voted, sent by scum)
I think tutuu & nutella are town. I liked Nanook/SPF/nova/LC/JJJ with no particular order.
I have some mixed feelings about Alison. I think that the only thing I really disliked is how she asked Hally why I wasn't on their read list (I thought it was pretty evident that they jsut didn't have a read on me) and then not really followed up when Hally answered that they didn't have a read yet.
cuz i dont think carotte and sloonei are w/w due to the way carotte gave a read on sloonei and i dont think martin and thunal are w/w due to the way they hard townread each other at start of the game without playing each other in the past; it just didnt look faked on both endsCarotenoid wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:34 pm Why is it specifically one between {Carotte, Sloonei} and one between {Martin, Thunal} and not like {Carotte, Thunal} for example?
Also not actually here, but I like this thought and question. I have not looked into this myself and won’t be doing it right now, but it’s a good thought to have in the thread, and the context of Hally asserting it here is super. +1 for HallyHally wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:34 pm not actually here but i thought of another question i have for @Sloonei
your response to the pressure on you in the wall you posted focused on try to find bad faith pushes. but im also curious to hear your takes on who is not pushing you. specifically, what do you think of carotte’s reaction to the pressure on you? what about jay’s? or anyone else who is noteworthy iyo
ime when a villager (and particularly a very strong player like yourself) is getting early heat, scum is often not in the early pushers but is instead found in those that don’t take a stance/try to have it both ways or those who tr the suspected person/try to white knight or pocket them. if you’re a villager you have a very unique and valuable pov on that and i’d like to see you explore that angle too
if you’ve already done this since i last posted, disregard and i’ll see it later![]()
Why am I town? Why is Jay not?tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:45 pm i just hacked into dizzy's account and read the role pms (sorry)
tutuu - vanilla TOWN
Hally - vanilla TOWN
Long Con - vanilla TOWN
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME - vanilla TOWN
Sloonei - vanilla TOWN
novaselinenever - vanilla TOWN
staypositivefriend - vanilla TOWN
nutella - vanilla TOWN
MartinGG99 - vanilla TOWN
Alison - vanilla TOWN
Carotenoid- Mafia GOON
Thunal33 - Mafia GOON
JaggedJimmyJay - Mafia GOON
It's in your role card, my dude.Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:47 pmWhy am I town? Why is Jay not?tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:45 pm i just hacked into dizzy's account and read the role pms (sorry)
tutuu - vanilla TOWN
Hally - vanilla TOWN
Long Con - vanilla TOWN
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME - vanilla TOWN
Sloonei - vanilla TOWN
novaselinenever - vanilla TOWN
staypositivefriend - vanilla TOWN
nutella - vanilla TOWN
MartinGG99 - vanilla TOWN
Alison - vanilla TOWN
Carotenoid- Mafia GOON
Thunal33 - Mafia GOON
JaggedJimmyJay - Mafia GOON
Do you also think I’m town then?Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:48 pmIt's in your role card, my dude.Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:47 pmWhy am I town? Why is Jay not?tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:45 pm i just hacked into dizzy's account and read the role pms (sorry)
tutuu - vanilla TOWN
Hally - vanilla TOWN
Long Con - vanilla TOWN
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME - vanilla TOWN
Sloonei - vanilla TOWN
novaselinenever - vanilla TOWN
staypositivefriend - vanilla TOWN
nutella - vanilla TOWN
MartinGG99 - vanilla TOWN
Alison - vanilla TOWN
Carotenoid- Mafia GOON
Thunal33 - Mafia GOON
JaggedJimmyJay - Mafia GOON
So do you think we just all decided to bus?tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:45 pm i just hacked into dizzy's account and read the role pms (sorry)
tutuu - vanilla TOWN
Hally - vanilla TOWN
Long Con - vanilla TOWN
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME - vanilla TOWN
Sloonei - vanilla TOWN
novaselinenever - vanilla TOWN
staypositivefriend - vanilla TOWN
nutella - vanilla TOWN
MartinGG99 - vanilla TOWN
Alison - vanilla TOWN
Carotenoid- Mafia GOON
Thunal33 - Mafia GOON
JaggedJimmyJay - Mafia GOON
Okay but what are the reasons behind these reads?
Who’s mafia?Carotenoid wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:49 pmSo do you think we just all decided to bus?tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:45 pm i just hacked into dizzy's account and read the role pms (sorry)
tutuu - vanilla TOWN
Hally - vanilla TOWN
Long Con - vanilla TOWN
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME - vanilla TOWN
Sloonei - vanilla TOWN
novaselinenever - vanilla TOWN
staypositivefriend - vanilla TOWN
nutella - vanilla TOWN
MartinGG99 - vanilla TOWN
Alison - vanilla TOWN
Carotenoid- Mafia GOON
Thunal33 - Mafia GOON
JaggedJimmyJay - Mafia GOON![]()
Honestly, I don't know.Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:50 pmWho’s mafia?Carotenoid wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:49 pmSo do you think we just all decided to bus?tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:45 pm i just hacked into dizzy's account and read the role pms (sorry)
tutuu - vanilla TOWN
Hally - vanilla TOWN
Long Con - vanilla TOWN
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME - vanilla TOWN
Sloonei - vanilla TOWN
novaselinenever - vanilla TOWN
staypositivefriend - vanilla TOWN
nutella - vanilla TOWN
MartinGG99 - vanilla TOWN
Alison - vanilla TOWN
Carotenoid- Mafia GOON
Thunal33 - Mafia GOON
JaggedJimmyJay - Mafia GOON![]()
its not up to me to decide my sweet dear carotte. its the rolecards. blame dizzy for having his password set as "myhairsosexy69"
please never change
tutuu - obv town
I think the fact that you did switch a read that early looks slightly good, but again I'm pretty biased. I know you didn't give reasoning other than that my posts looked better. My read was more because you reevaluated not why you reevaluated. Also Martin had a good start but he's dropped off a bit after he got townread. It's possible he's complacent scum.Carotenoid wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:34 pm^ I kinda want to townread this post, because I also had the vague idea that Martin was somewhat similar to Proto and that it's the archetype of player that w!Alison would want to pocket. Alison initial way of approaching Martin didn't seem like she was actively trying to pocket him and I don't think she would be disclosing that much "info" if she was a wolf.Alison wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 6:03 am Martin is just a very transparent player I think. There's something about the way he talks about managing information and how he feels his tell on Thunal can only be used once that rings of truth to me; I can sense the paranoia about being fooled by scum there. Honestly even this is like some attempt at verbalizing or rationalizing a gut read that was probably made for murkier reasons though.
I think I find players easier to read if their playstyle is similar to mine (duh). For instance I found proto's approach to the game very easy to read and vibe with, and I have a good track record of reading proto because of that. I suspect Martin is a similar case, and I townread him.
I thought the initial question was really pointless (because the answer would be evident) and that she was having some sort of underlying idea she wanted to test/wanted to convince Hally with her read of me, but then nothing happened. It doesn't bother as much today, I can see this being t!Alison.Thunal33 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 11:17 amWhat do you think town!Alison would follow up that read with? I don't follow up on every question that I ask that's been answered in a light game since I don't want to waste a post saying "oh, okay" if that would be my answer.Carotenoid wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 11:15 am I like Thunal more today.
I'm not sure if everyone understands that the person sent to the grassland only gets to shoot *among* the persons in the grassland? (most voted, least voted, sent by scum)
I think tutuu & nutella are town. I liked Nanook/SPF/nova/LC/JJJ with no particular order.
I have some mixed feelings about Alison. I think that the only thing I really disliked is how she asked Hally why I wasn't on their read list (I thought it was pretty evident that they jsut didn't have a read on me) and then not really followed up when Hally answered that they didn't have a read yet.
Hmnn okay. No, I'm just trying to understand what you were both thinking because the exchange seemed really weird to me.Hally wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 12:09 pmi thought her take on you dipping out after you said hi was agreeable because i’ve made reads off that in the past. i didn’t actually have that thought about you in this game but when i read alison’s post i liked itCarotenoid wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 2:01 amHmmn that doesn't really seem to justify how highly you townread her.
#127 you quoted the posts Alison made that you townread.
Townread tutuu and scumread Sloonei: pretty consensus among the players who posted.
The comment on Martin... Exist.
She also gut scumread me, so do(did?) you like... Agree?![]()
do you object to me town reading alison? i don’t really get the purpose of this post
I'm a bit confused about what you liked in my "reevaluation"? Because I didn't explain it at all.Thunal33 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 12:35 pm Oops I didn't realize Carotte was Carotenoid, I thought Carotte was a completely different player. I think Carotte looks okay so far, I like that she reevaluated on me. I have more of a "wait and see" read on both her and Sloonei, I think they'll become more readable later on.
Why is it specifically one between {Carotte, Sloonei} and one between {Martin, Thunal} and not like {Carotte, Thunal} for example?tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 1:13 pm IT HAS COME TO MY ATTENTION THAT 3 MEMBERS OF THIS PEACEFUL VILLAGE HAVE STARTED ARSONING FIRES EVERY NIGHT
I WILL EXTINGUISH YOUR FIRES WITH MY BURNNG FIREFIGHTER'S SOUL
THE ONLY THING THAT SHOULD BE BURNING IS YOUR HEART, BAKAS
ONE OF THOSE ARSONISTS IS ...
...
...
CAROTTE OR SLOONEI
THE SECOND ONE OF THOSE ARSONISTS IS ....
..
..
..
MARTIN OR THUNAL
AND THE LAST ARSONIST IS ...
..
..
..
So far so good?Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:49 pmDo you also think I’m town then?Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:48 pmIt's in your role card, my dude.Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:47 pmWhy am I town? Why is Jay not?tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:45 pm i just hacked into dizzy's account and read the role pms (sorry)
tutuu - vanilla TOWN
Hally - vanilla TOWN
Long Con - vanilla TOWN
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME - vanilla TOWN
Sloonei - vanilla TOWN
novaselinenever - vanilla TOWN
staypositivefriend - vanilla TOWN
nutella - vanilla TOWN
MartinGG99 - vanilla TOWN
Alison - vanilla TOWN
Carotenoid- Mafia GOON
Thunal33 - Mafia GOON
JaggedJimmyJay - Mafia GOON
lolol it's okay, i'll try to make you see my townie soul
Out of all the reasons to townread Hally why is not explaining a read one of them? Also I think Alison's been more confident and not that agreeable (like saying Sloonei's read was made up). Also why Martin in town and me in mafia? Couldn't you use the same logic and come to me as town and Martin as mafia since I'm not w/w with Martin? Same with Sloonei and Carotte.tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:55 pmtutuu - obv town
hally - towny cuz didnt explain spf townread
long con - town cuz doesnt care
nanook - town cuz bravado
sloonei - town cuz not w/w with carotte
nova - obv town from energy
spf - town cuz ppl who are good at reading her say shes town
nutella - town cuz bavado
martin - town cuz not w/w with thunal
alison - town cuz agreeable-ness
carotte - mafia cuz hopping around like a cute little bunny and tmi'd sloonei town
thunal - mafia cuz someone has to be mafia and i dont tr her
jjj - mafia cuz someone has to be mafia and i dont tr him
cuz i think its the best reason to townread hally. why would i townread them for making sense and having good tone and helping town and stuff? that seems sillyThunal33 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:58 pmOut of all the reasons to townread Hally why is not explaining a read one of them? Also I think Alison's been more confident and not that agreeable (like saying Sloonei's read was made up). Also why Martin in town and me in mafia? Couldn't you use the same logic and come to me as town and Martin as mafia since I'm not w/w with Martin? Same with Sloonei and Carotte.tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:55 pmtutuu - obv town
hally - towny cuz didnt explain spf townread
long con - town cuz doesnt care
nanook - town cuz bravado
sloonei - town cuz not w/w with carotte
nova - obv town from energy
spf - town cuz ppl who are good at reading her say shes town
nutella - town cuz bavado
martin - town cuz not w/w with thunal
alison - town cuz agreeable-ness
carotte - mafia cuz hopping around like a cute little bunny and tmi'd sloonei town
thunal - mafia cuz someone has to be mafia and i dont tr her
jjj - mafia cuz someone has to be mafia and i dont tr him
Why?Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:55 pmSo far so good?Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:49 pmDo you also think I’m town then?Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:48 pmIt's in your role card, my dude.Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:47 pmWhy am I town? Why is Jay not?tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:45 pm i just hacked into dizzy's account and read the role pms (sorry)
tutuu - vanilla TOWN
Hally - vanilla TOWN
Long Con - vanilla TOWN
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME - vanilla TOWN
Sloonei - vanilla TOWN
novaselinenever - vanilla TOWN
staypositivefriend - vanilla TOWN
nutella - vanilla TOWN
MartinGG99 - vanilla TOWN
Alison - vanilla TOWN
Carotenoid- Mafia GOON
Thunal33 - Mafia GOON
JaggedJimmyJay - Mafia GOON
I said that I liked them more today here
hihihi stop making me blush hallie :P. u adorable cutiepie u
I feel like this logic for Hally, Sloonei, and Carotte is odd enough that you're town for making it. I actually interpreted "agreeableness" differently than you did, I interpreted it as that you thought Alison was being nice and not aggressive.tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 4:03 pmcuz i think its the best reason to townread hally. why would i townread them for making sense and having good tone and helping town and stuff? that seems sillyThunal33 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:58 pmOut of all the reasons to townread Hally why is not explaining a read one of them? Also I think Alison's been more confident and not that agreeable (like saying Sloonei's read was made up). Also why Martin in town and me in mafia? Couldn't you use the same logic and come to me as town and Martin as mafia since I'm not w/w with Martin? Same with Sloonei and Carotte.tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:55 pmtutuu - obv town
hally - towny cuz didnt explain spf townread
long con - town cuz doesnt care
nanook - town cuz bravado
sloonei - town cuz not w/w with carotte
nova - obv town from energy
spf - town cuz ppl who are good at reading her say shes town
nutella - town cuz bavado
martin - town cuz not w/w with thunal
alison - town cuz agreeable-ness
carotte - mafia cuz hopping around like a cute little bunny and tmi'd sloonei town
thunal - mafia cuz someone has to be mafia and i dont tr her
jjj - mafia cuz someone has to be mafia and i dont tr him
i dont think alison was disagreeable since i agree with her stuff that sloonei was pretty scummy as well with her other stuff
yea i could use the logic to put u in town and martin as scum but i skimmed both of ur isos and decided martin looks better, also a bunch of other ppl townread him
with sloonei and carotte cuz i dunno. i just felt like putting them like that