I literally just have not seen it articulated in any clear and concise way. But whatever. It doesn't need to be dug up now. The votes that are on me are locked in place.nutella wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:38 pmheh this kind of post does make me feel better again bc he keeps saying he doesn't think he deserves the degree of suspicion he has received which I just plain cannot believe he doesn't see why he's the top candidate and has been for a while
like yes he has put in real effort today but he came in today knowing full well that he was the most consensus suspect and justifiably so
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That is only true if you are town which I am not convinced is the case. But also if that was really the case then there's nothing I can do about it so why would I get mad? Like even if you convince me that town always loses in the event you flip town, what am I going to do about it? Not flip you? That's just wrong. You don't have near enough chance of flipping town for that. I obviously can't stop the town from exeing me if you flip town either. The only thing I can do in that situation is to tell the town who I think is scum in that scenario to help them win the 3v2, which is what I just did.
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why should it be justified from his pov?nutella wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:38 pmheh this kind of post does make me feel better again bc he keeps saying he doesn't think he deserves the degree of suspicion he has received which I just plain cannot believe he doesn't see why he's the top candidate and has been for a while
like yes he has put in real effort today but he came in today knowing full well that he was the most consensus suspect and justifiably so
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sloonei is a villager. alison might be too honestly
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i think it's two of tutuu/nook/martin
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there will be no f7 cuz lc dead. f3 is fine
f5 (with 2 mafia) is obnoxious for both teams because 3 players need to be sent to the grassland no matter what. the deciding vote on who gets the gun will rest on the votes of the 2 people who go to the treehouse. tiebreaker votes in the treehouse are decide based off who votes fist. therefore, whoever writes "vote: X" first in the tree house will win the game for his alignment. the whole game will depend on who can write that first.
if we can put 2 mafia in the grassland we dont have to worry about that. but thats impossible. we can majority vote one mafia, sure, but we cant possibly guarantee that a member of the mafia will have the least votes in f5. we just cant. it will become a tiebreaker, and that is resolved by lowest overall post count. we have no control over that, there is an insane gap in post count for soem people (hally has near 300, nanook has 60 somethign)
most likely scenario we will put 1 mafia (by choice) and 1 town (we wont have a say on that) in the grassland. the mafia could send the 2nd mafia in there too, but they would miss out on a chance to win the 50/50 right there on the spot. they are extremely likely to send town, and leave the 2nd mafia in the treehouse to vote
and its even more favorable for them than 50/50. from my understanding / based off what ive noticed when the day ends, the mafia tells the host who do they wanna send. i am assuming that they dont proxy that choice, since flash wagons are a thing. my assumption is that the mafia has a view minutes to decide AFTER the votes are locked to make the choice of who they are sending. they will be a bit more prepared to enter the quick topic and copy paste the vote to give the gun to the person they know they need to give it to
the single town who goes to the treehouse will be a bit less prepared, and they will have an extremely low time to see who is the third person (chosen by the mafia) to be send to the grassland, analyze the information and vote for someone they believe is town. they have no time to think really, it needs to happen on the spot. its literally a test of speed, that is stacked against them
and even if they successfully choose a town, the town in the grassland is not guaranteed to shoot scum. they might shoot town lol
so like, town chances to win in f5 due to this oversight in the setup are like 10%, i agree with nanook on that estimated number
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I mean I try to take the play with the highest % chance of being correct every Day and I don't worry too much about the possibility that it's wrong. Like imagine I'm the confirmed town in an F3 where one player has a 51% chance of being scum and the other has a 49% chance of being scum. Assuming that I'm in a situation where no new evidence will come out to change these numbers (as we're in right now), do you think I should be paranoid or worried or freak out because I have a 49% chance of losing? Like even if I do get paranoid, what am I going to do, vote the other person and have a 51% chance of losing? You just take the highest value play and see how it shakes out. No point getting upset or second guessing yourself over a decision that you realistically aren't going to change.Hally wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:38 pm fwiw it may just be alison’s personality to not freak out or doubt herself much. she is very logic oriented and perhaps doesn’t concern herself with “what if’s” because they don’t logically make sense to her to consider
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at this moment i have very strong conviction in this statement and do not think alison should be the next elimination but idk if i can convince ppl of that
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nook/martin makes a lot of sense actually i think
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Like this isn't being "complacent even though you only have a coinflip chance of winning", this is taking the best possible play and not beating yourself up over it.Alison wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:43 pmI mean I try to take the play with the highest % chance of being correct every Day and I don't worry too much about the possibility that it's wrong. Like imagine I'm the confirmed town in an F3 where one player has a 51% chance of being scum and the other has a 49% chance of being scum. Assuming that I'm in a situation where no new evidence will come out to change these numbers (as we're in right now), do you think I should be paranoid or worried or freak out because I have a 49% chance of losing? Like even if I do get paranoid, what am I going to do, vote the other person and have a 51% chance of losing? You just take the highest value play and see how it shakes out. No point getting upset or second guessing yourself over a decision that you realistically aren't going to change.Hally wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:38 pm fwiw it may just be alison’s personality to not freak out or doubt herself much. she is very logic oriented and perhaps doesn’t concern herself with “what if’s” because they don’t logically make sense to her to consider
this is a plausible explanation for her behavior that isn’t “alison is a wolf”
And obviously I think Sloonei has a much higher than 51% chance of flipping scum.
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Neither of them looked good in association with LC.
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I am town. No one is asking for you to get mad. It is wrong to assume I will flip wolf. It js not wrong to continue to solve the game.Alison wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:40 pmThat is only true if you are town which I am not convinced is the case. But also if that was really the case then there's nothing I can do about it so why would I get mad? Like even if you convince me that town always loses in the event you flip town, what am I going to do about it? Not flip you? That's just wrong. You don't have near enough chance of flipping town for that. I obviously can't stop the town from exeing me if you flip town either. The only thing I can do in that situation is to tell the town who I think is scum in that scenario to help them win the 3v2, which is what I just did.
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I am solving the game though, I listed out who's the most likely to be the scumteam in the event you and I both flip town and explained the reasons why.
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Of everyone here right now, you seem the most complacent.
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Bad, try again. Where my vote fell/the significance of it has been discussed.Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:25 pm nanook and LC at a glance:This was thoroughly underwhelming. Nanook was the first person to respond to LC's "derpclear" post by the looks of it (and I think LC's post was a response to nanook in the first place?). The exchange about Nanook's viability with various hypothetical partners is a bit odd and... kind of out of place. I could see it as theater between teammates.Spoiler: show
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Summarize it for me please and thanksNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:54 pmBad, try again. Where my vote fell/the significance of it has been discussed.Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:25 pm nanook and LC at a glance:This was thoroughly underwhelming. Nanook was the first person to respond to LC's "derpclear" post by the looks of it (and I think LC's post was a response to nanook in the first place?). The exchange about Nanook's viability with various hypothetical partners is a bit odd and... kind of out of place. I could see it as theater between teammates.Spoiler: show
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Speaking of votes, let me just throw it out there that if I’m LC’s teammate I’ve given myself plenty of space to just vote for Alison and nobody else yesterday. I have no reason to lump a vote on LC.
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What exactly do you mean by complacent? Do you mean:
...that I am the person who is most confident that I am right? I have good reasons to believe I am right; I showed my work, my POE analysis, my read on you all the way. If I am good reasons to believe I am right, I am going to be confident that I will be right. I am not going to downplay the confidence I have in my beliefs in order to avoid feeling ashamed in the event I am wrong. That would be misrepresenting my read of the game in order to achieve personal emotional fulfilment, which is not optimal play.
...that I am the person who is doing the least to cover the possibility that I am wrong? I've done my best to show you what I think you should do in the 3v2 if I am wrong. Because if I am wrong here, then the events of the next day will be fairly straightforward; town can't afford not to exe me, and frankly I would prefer they did so I don't get dragged to F5 as the designated game-losing misexe. So in the event that I am in fact wrong, I've already done work to show how I believe town should act in that scenario, which I believe counts as covering that possibility.
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For the fifth timeSloonei wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:54 pmSummarize it for me please and thanksNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:54 pmBad, try again. Where my vote fell/the significance of it has been discussed.Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:25 pm nanook and LC at a glance:This was thoroughly underwhelming. Nanook was the first person to respond to LC's "derpclear" post by the looks of it (and I think LC's post was a response to nanook in the first place?). The exchange about Nanook's viability with various hypothetical partners is a bit odd and... kind of out of place. I could see it as theater between teammates.Spoiler: show
Nanook voted for LC yesterday, but i don't know where it fell in the scheme of the wagons.
I can see this as LC's teammate.
Wagons were 4-4, LC hadn’t voted yet, it wasn’t clear which way thunal would vote
I voted LC
If I’m partners with him I’m under zero obligation to vote him (or to vote at all actually)
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Okay. I was not here for that.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:57 pmFor the fifth timeSloonei wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:54 pmSummarize it for me please and thanksNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:54 pmBad, try again. Where my vote fell/the significance of it has been discussed.Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:25 pm nanook and LC at a glance:This was thoroughly underwhelming. Nanook was the first person to respond to LC's "derpclear" post by the looks of it (and I think LC's post was a response to nanook in the first place?). The exchange about Nanook's viability with various hypothetical partners is a bit odd and... kind of out of place. I could see it as theater between teammates.Spoiler: show
Nanook voted for LC yesterday, but i don't know where it fell in the scheme of the wagons.
I can see this as LC's teammate.
Wagons were 4-4, LC hadn’t voted yet, it wasn’t clear which way thunal would vote
I voted LC
If I’m partners with him I’m under zero obligation to vote him (or to vote at all actually)
Who’s bad?
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That's what happens when you over-analyze people you look into. I mean, I did come into this game not knowing anyone and in addition to that knowing some of them including yourself have been a part of the championships. My paranoia of people was, in a way, amplified by over-analyzing. And when we're paranoid, we don't really make the best decisions or conclusions (such as my sudden and temporary fear of Alison being scum that doesn't exist anymore).Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 1:45 pm @MartinGG99 if there is one point in that ISO I want you to respond to it's this one:Can you talk some more about this list? When I look at it, it does not look like your confidence-level and the strength of the reads themselves are in sync. SPF being a "townier" read than Jay or myself despite you having put "not much effort" into that read looks weird; as does having me smack in the middle of the list but proclaiming yourself to be "mostly confident in this position." Also, having Nanook as "mostly confident" but Alison as "unsure" when they're ordered the way they are is an odd look.Spoiler: show
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To answer what you brought up specifically:
For Nanook I felt suspicious of his dive to be the person who receives the gun (or doc save) and up until his voting actions on EoD2 I didn't really have any good reasons to town-read him from my perspective. Plus they didn't post a whole lot so there really wasn't much for me to analyze (or over-analyze) there.
For Alison I was being paranoid for obvious reasons (ex: her being able to sort of "soul-read" me with the circumstances of the game). One over-analysis I did was take a small thing that she said, then take it to a very extreme extent and then fear she's playing a bit similar to my scum play style which I didn't really have good words to describe.
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Pretty much just a sheep of jay, I can’t read sloonei for shit
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its her being genuine. like regardless of her alignment i think she would be saying those stuff
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eh?NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:58 pm [VOTE: sloonei] aubergine
Pretty much just a sheep of jay, I can’t read sloonei for shit
Jay put Sloonei as town GTH, shouldn't you be voting me if you're sheeping Jay?
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I mean that you are the person who seems least willing to consider alternatives at this very moment. It’s great that you’ve put in work previously. But now it’s time for us all to make a decision and you’re just sitting there.Alison wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:56 pmWhat exactly do you mean by complacent? Do you mean:
...that I am the person who is most confident that I am right? I have good reasons to believe I am right; I showed my work, my POE analysis, my read on you all the way. If I am good reasons to believe I am right, I am going to be confident that I will be right. I am not going to downplay the confidence I have in my beliefs in order to avoid feeling ashamed in the event I am wrong. That would be misrepresenting my read of the game in order to achieve personal emotional fulfilment, which is not optimal play.
...that I am the person who is doing the least to cover the possibility that I am wrong? I've done my best to show you what I think you should do in the 3v2 if I am wrong. Because if I am wrong here, then the events of the next day will be fairly straightforward; town can't afford not to exe me, and frankly I would prefer they did so I don't get dragged to F5 as the designated game-losing misexe. So in the event that I am in fact wrong, I've already done work to show how I believe town should act in that scenario, which I believe counts as covering that possibility.
What is the single most compelling piece of evidence against me, Alison?
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I discussed it fairly extensively with Martin early in the day. Surprised you apparently saw literally none of the conversation.Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:57 pmOkay. I was not here for that.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:57 pmFor the fifth timeSloonei wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:54 pmSummarize it for me please and thanksNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:54 pmBad, try again. Where my vote fell/the significance of it has been discussed.Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:25 pm nanook and LC at a glance:This was thoroughly underwhelming. Nanook was the first person to respond to LC's "derpclear" post by the looks of it (and I think LC's post was a response to nanook in the first place?). The exchange about Nanook's viability with various hypothetical partners is a bit odd and... kind of out of place. I could see it as theater between teammates.Spoiler: show
Nanook voted for LC yesterday, but i don't know where it fell in the scheme of the wagons.
I can see this as LC's teammate.
Wagons were 4-4, LC hadn’t voted yet, it wasn’t clear which way thunal would vote
I voted LC
If I’m partners with him I’m under zero obligation to vote him (or to vote at all actually)
Who’s bad?
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NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 12:23 amYou know I hate this question literally every time someone replies to a post of mine asking a question with “who’s mafia” instead of just answering my questionnutella wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 12:21 amwho's mafia?NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 12:20 am Hello I’m way behind
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NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:58 pm [VOTE: sloonei] aubergine
Pretty much just a sheep of jay, I can’t read sloonei for shit

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Jay didn’t have sloonei as confident townAlison wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:59 pmeh?NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:58 pm [VOTE: sloonei] aubergine
Pretty much just a sheep of jay, I can’t read sloonei for shit
Jay put Sloonei as town GTH, shouldn't you be voting me if you're sheeping Jay?
I have no idea what jay’s accuracy on you is, I know his accuracy on sloonei is pretty high usually, so him not having sloonei as confident town/saying sloonei could be scum means I’m gonna vote sloonei
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This is worse than my read on you.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:02 pmJay didn’t have sloonei as confident townAlison wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:59 pmeh?NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:58 pm [VOTE: sloonei] aubergine
Pretty much just a sheep of jay, I can’t read sloonei for shit
Jay put Sloonei as town GTH, shouldn't you be voting me if you're sheeping Jay?
I have no idea what jay’s accuracy on you is, I know his accuracy on sloonei is pretty high usually, so him not having sloonei as confident town/saying sloonei could be scum means I’m gonna vote sloonei![]()
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what if its rly martin + nanook rofl
if sloonei flips mafia = calm
if sloonei flips town = panik
if sloonei flips mafia = calm
if sloonei flips town = panik
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What do you mean consider alternatives?Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:00 pm I mean that you are the person who seems least willing to consider alternatives at this very moment. It’s great that you’ve put in work previously. But now it’s time for us all to make a decision and you’re just sitting there.
What is the single most compelling piece of evidence against me, Alison?
I don't have an alternative vote here. Like even if I didn't scumread you. What am I going to do, ask everyone to vote me instead of you? Try to start a flash wagon against someone else? I'm confused why you think I would seriously consider doing those things.
I don't think there's one slam dunk compelling piece of evidence against you, like a scumslip or something. If you're expecting me to give you some undeniable or irrefutable proof that you're mafia, you're not going to be satisfied. I'm voting you because I scumread your early game play, Jay had issues getting there on you being town, the nightkills look like they were made to frame me (which points towards you), and if you are town then the team is mostly likely something like nanook/tutuu or maybe Martin/[nanook/tutuu] in the world where my read on Martin is wrong. And those teams are, on a base probability, unlikely enough that I think the chance you are mafia is just much higher than that. All of those pieces of evidence put together make me believe that you are the best vote for today.
There's nothing that says a fake can't surpass the real thing.
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[mention]MartinGG99[/mention] u srsly cant find me as town?
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no u won champs so u die cuz u havent caught 5 wolves and u dont have 1000 posts by d3
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MaybeSloonei wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:03 pmThis is worse than my read on you.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:02 pmJay didn’t have sloonei as confident townAlison wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:59 pmeh?NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:58 pm [VOTE: sloonei] aubergine
Pretty much just a sheep of jay, I can’t read sloonei for shit
Jay put Sloonei as town GTH, shouldn't you be voting me if you're sheeping Jay?
I have no idea what jay’s accuracy on you is, I know his accuracy on sloonei is pretty high usually, so him not having sloonei as confident town/saying sloonei could be scum means I’m gonna vote sloonei![]()
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I do not like any of Alison’s posts right now. I’m fully in the tunnel.
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[mention]MartinGG99[/mention] are u here? why am i scum. explain urself mister
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If I'm scum then this is my 3rd scum game
If I'm town then this is my 5th town game
I got a list/note of games that I had, the alignment, and if I won:
(Homesite) S-FM 303, Town loss
(Mafia Universe) Newbies Paradise #3, Mafia loss*
(Mafia Universe) Romeo & Juliet, Town loss
(Homesite) S-FM Spirits II, Wolf loss
(Homesite) S-FM 308, Town Win
(Homesite) ?krc, Town loss**
* This game experienced a modbot error where it did two consecutive eliminations. Either way, I think it was looking like a strong mafia loss as the top wagon was my last scum buddy and my F3 was looking like a policy yeet of me.
**This was an anonymous game so I intentionally played differently than I normally would
That's my full history so far.
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My reputation was already the source of wacky suspicions in every game ever (see: this one). Winning champs may end up being the worst thing that ever happened to me in mafia.
Woe is me for the accolades bestowed upon me by my peers.
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MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:08 pm
If I'm scum then this is my 3rd scum game
If I'm town then this is my 5th town game
I got a list/note of games that I had, the alignment, and if I won:
(Homesite) S-FM 303, Town loss
(Mafia Universe) Newbies Paradise #3, Mafia loss*
(Mafia Universe) Romeo & Juliet, Town loss
(Homesite) S-FM Spirits II, Wolf loss
(Homesite) S-FM 308, Town Win
(Homesite) ?krc, Town loss**
* This game experienced a modbot error where it did two consecutive eliminations. Either way, I think it was looking like a strong mafia loss as the top wagon was my last scum buddy and my F3 was looking like a policy yeet of me.
**This was an anonymous game so I intentionally played differently than I normally would
That's my full history so far.
This DOES NOT include the U-Pick Vol. 2 game I had earlier this year due to the special nature of it.
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im sorry i was just jokingSloonei wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:09 pmMy reputation was already the source of wacky suspicions in every game ever (see: this one). Winning champs may end up being the worst thing that ever happened to me in mafia.
Woe is me for the accolades bestowed upon me by my peers.

pls dont hate me
u will still call me tooty right? will u forgive tooty if we're both town?
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There is nothing to forgive, tootytutuu wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:10 pmim sorry i was just jokingSloonei wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 3:09 pmMy reputation was already the source of wacky suspicions in every game ever (see: this one). Winning champs may end up being the worst thing that ever happened to me in mafia.
Woe is me for the accolades bestowed upon me by my peers.
pls dont hate me
u will still call me tooty right? will u forgive tooty if we're both town?
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