The Simpsons [GAME OVER]

[Broken]

ok grumple is town.

I fucking love your style.

That's my name, don't wear it out.

[PonySparkPrime]

^@Bart Simpson
@Lisa Simpson

O-kay, hope you are not two wolves covering each other.

Wolfy thing to say

[PonySparkPrime]

i'm sorry everyone. i meant to be more active. life shit's been fucked up lately and i've had no energy.

please know that i am still here, just... slower.

Grumple slower than Gramps

I think the Otto track is fine. He was a pretty vocal player on D1 and didn't seem to have been suspected. I guess that makes him the closest thing to a deep wolf we'd have in this game so far. I can see the idea behind it as like if they're Mafia, the probability of them performing the kill is considerable.

I have a dangerous amount of heebie jeebies from this post

I'm legit town.

Who isn't?

Mafia

Grumple could be scum.

Anyone could be scum. Standard wolfy take here.

Otto, Grampa, Hugh all varying degrees of townish.

Easy to point out, say more please.

Grumple could be scum.

Anything deeper than the AtE? I hAtE AtE.

Also, I'm curious about your early wolf read on Alison, can you explain that to me please.

I like this post, Ate denied at this point of the game is a good sign

Grumple could be scum.

Anything deeper than the AtE? I hAtE AtE.

Also, I'm curious about your early wolf read on Alison, can you explain that to me please.

I thought she was scummy because she seemed kinda verbose and focused on minutia.

I think she's town now, though.

Does this satisfy you?

Nope. It's very different from what I remember seeing at the time.
Guess I'll have to read back looking for what you're talking about.

You didn't address your Grumple read.

I'm actually pretty easy to please, are you allergic to effort?

I can see why Otto receives TRs, his posts shows towny mindset

Why are we giving Mr. Burns a pass?

Who is doing this?

A bit angleshooty - but both Grumble and CBG have been online for about an hour yet neither bother to engage each other in the thread. Seems odd considering CBG has shaded grumble but I dont think they've ever asked the other a question.

I find myself wishing they went anon, because that's gonna bug me until I see one of them flip.

This is spicy

As answers to "Are you allergic to effort?" go "Don't worry about it" might be the worst possible.

Further to the angleshoot - when I was shaking the tree D1 grumble was pretty quick to engage/tunnel me on my read, yet seems to not care about CBG.

It's total wolf bro stuff.

Can you quote?

ok grumple is town.

Why?

no one is responding to my updated mafia slang question post what am i supposed to just GOOGLE things like some sort of NERD?

Yes, why noy?

grampa should be policy lynched for having a name too similar to mine

no one is responding to my updated mafia slang question post what am i supposed to just GOOGLE things like some sort of NERD?

chop and exe are just alternatives for lynch, which has fallen out of favor. No real distinction. There's also yeet, eliminate, banish...

doc dodging is when the wolves kill someone else because the popular target is presumed to be protected by a doctor

innocent child is when someone is confirmed town by the host

mafia god isn't slang, just implying the person is great at the game and to be feared (I think? I don't actually know, it doesn't ping me as a term)

+1 and nice help for Grumple from Gramps

grampa should be policy lynched for having a name too similar to mine

by our powers combined we can become... the grample simpson

After help, symbiosis?

i am so done with walls

posting only absolute bullshit one-liners from now on*

*terms and conditions apply

what do u guys think about mr. burns

He may be villager, i thought he maybe scum in day 1, but he posted pretty well after

feel

Grammar police is in vacation

ok grumple is town.

I fucking love your style.

Is this implying a read too?

what do u guys think about mr. burns

I'm really stoned rn so I'm not sure I can explain it properly.
But if Burns is scum I think Allison probably is too.

I so hate associative reads.

[PonySparkPrime]

Homework is finished

[PonySparkPrime]

[VOTE: CGB] aubergine

[Broken]

That's all a lot of easy things to say.

[PonySparkPrime]

That's all a lot of easy things to say.

Indeed, I think i covered in simple sentences my take.
I intended to do that.

[PonySparkPrime]

Actual VC

Allison Taylor....... 1 : Lisa Simpson
Comic Book Guy.. 2 : Allison Taylor, Bart Simpson
Homer Simpson... 2 : Krusty the Clown, Grampa Simpson
Krusty the Clown.. 1 : The Grumple
Mr. Burns............... 1 : Marge Simpson
No one................... 2 : Mr. Burns, Otto Mann

[My Shell]

That's fair, i'm just responding to whatever i see interesting and leave it at that. Can't argue against it. And i can tell you in advance that i probably won't be stronger tommorow or the days after. I might analyse a little more when a wolf dies but i can't guarantee it.

You realise mac came around a few hours before EoD too, threw a few reads with little substance, started crying about town throwing and claimed his identity?
I don't see why you ''feel bad'' about pushing mac but shitting on Skinner is fair game. Isn't that the same thing?

The track is fine. Otto sits in the upper half/middle of the threadstate atleast from my POV. That's where the mafia kill will usually come from. Tinfoiling that he is mafia the moment he doesn't die N1 doesn't do us any favours so putting focus on it isn't a good look.

Don't think anyone even said anything about his play either, just the track itself. I agree that his play is not good anyway.

I felt bad about pushing Mac into claiming Mac. For one thing, at the time I was pretty sure that I had gotten a townie modkilled, which seems like a pretty reasonable feels bad man, and for another I think the blatant breaking of the sock puppet theme was unpleasant and disruptive.

As for Skinner, yeah I have shit on basically every aspect of his play...including the track.

[PonySparkPrime]

Eod 1 votes

Bart Simpson................ 2 : Comic Book Guy, Lisa Simpson

Grampa Simpson.......... 3 : Allison Taylor, Hugh Jass, Ned Flanders

Krusty the Clown ........... 1 : Principal Skinner

Marge Simpson ..............1 : Milhouse Van Houten

Milhouse Van Houten.... 4 : Mr. Burns, Otto Mann, Grampa Simpson, Krusty the Clown

Mr. Burns.........................2 : Homer Simpson, Marge Simpson
Ned Flanders............... . 1 : The Grumple

Principal Skinner......... . 1 : Bart Simpson

[PonySparkPrime]

[VOTE: Bart Simpson] aubergine

Milhouse is sus.

I can get a brief overview of your thoughts on these posts?

[PonySparkPrime]

Eod 1's peaceful atmosphere tells me no wolf was in danger, I would like to see who agrees with this

[My Shell]

Eod 1's peaceful atmosphere tells me no wolf was in danger, I would like to see who agrees with this

Fifty fifty...this game is pretty low participation and I'm not sure many people would have been around for EoD either way...but yeah under normal circumstances I agree that felt like the wolves were just sitting off to the side eating popcorn and not concerned.

[My Shell]

[VOTE: Bart Simpson] aubergine

Milhouse is sus.

I can get a brief overview of your thoughts on these posts?

I passionately hate bald votes and "reads" with no reasoning.

[Broken]

[VOTE: Bart Simpson] aubergine

Milhouse is sus.

I can get a brief overview of your thoughts on these posts?

Milhouse was sus.

You fit into the goldilock zone.

[Principal Skinner]

[VOTE: Bart Simpson] aubergine

Milhouse is sus.

I can get a brief overview of your thoughts on these posts?

I passionately hate bald votes and "reads" with no reasoning.

I can agree with this statement

[PonySparkPrime]

[VOTE: Bart Simpson] aubergine

Milhouse is sus.

I can get a brief overview of your thoughts on these posts?

Milhouse was sus.

You fit into the goldilock zone.

[PonySparkPrime]

I noticed a typo in my vote

[VOTE: [mention]Comic Book Guy[/mention] ] aubergine

[Julinook]

Just woke up. Going to catch up in a bit.

[Julinook]

Grampa probably trending up. I still suspect him but he had some pretty hard-to-fake town posts the past couple of pages. I like Hugh, Grumple and Krusty - the interaction there feels organic. Grumple's "I'm a disappointment, I'm so sorry for not contributing stuff" was something that stood out to me as pretty townie. The game is low activity enough that a scum Grumple could show up and integrate back into the thread without making waves, so this would be a pretty unecessary song and dance if he was scum, which makes me think the emotion is just genuine.

[tessepia]

@Otto Mann My town pile isn't very strong as far as my certainty of them. Alison is my strongest lean, followed by you. After that it's some reads doing better than null, but by no means strong leans. Lisa, Burns, Grampa, Bart.

Scum leans on Hugh Jass, Homer, & The Grumple right now.

Here is a TR from Krusty for Otto as second TR

What makes Allison your first town read Krusty?

Spoiler: show

Spoiler: show

Finally caught up! I'm feeling things, feeling a lot of things but I'm having trouble trying to put them into words lol. It was also pretty difficult internalizing information, felt like reading posts from new players everywhere and the lack of familiarity with avys I guess you get lost sometimes and don't even remember who said what.

I think my strongest town reads would be Marge, Otto and Alison. Found myself agreeing with like almost everything Marge saying and that's pretty crazy lol. We have the two same scum reads and like most of her posts comes off as natural and you can see her train of thoughts. They're like open and accessible if that makes any sense, doesn't feel like there is an agenda behind them. I usually find the "lol" and other laughing acronyms as scum tells sometimes when they don't really match the tone and vibe of a player, and they're like using them to sweeten their post and comes off as anxious. Here it feels like she's just having fun, and it kind of gives off a good care free vibe that is townie.

Otto and Alison are the og contributors of the thread. I liked the energy they came in with, and it felt like it came with genuine game solving intent. Didn't really agree all that much with some of Otto's reads but they felt genuine, a lot of progression and reconsiderations which makes me feel like he's trying to figure out people for real and not just putting a show. I particularly liked post 72, I think it's the kind of post that only town does. It's nothing fancy but like scum never make them because they're never solving for real. I don't know if this make any sense lol, it's like the kind of self reflecting and gathering of thoughts that comes from a townie mindset when they're trying to get a feel for the state of the game. Agreed with his Gtumple take, felt also genuine and not like him wanting to get Grumple off his back. I understand it too 'cause you usually can have personal takes on how someone is treating you so you can get reads from it, I'm a no u specialist since I feel like I have good instincts for when scum is pushing me for bullshit reasons lol. Overall have the same thought about Alison, I liked her Gramps take and while I started suspecting him for different and more personal reasons, her take are good. The change of speed of Gramps is particularily telling. I also like her feelings about the state of the game and how its going, feel like genuine town concerns.

Pretty much agree with Marge about Homer. The idgaf attitude her and not tailoring his game to people especially after getting prodded is more likely town than not. Also it actually feels genuine, rather than like a scum trying to sell that fake bravado. He kind of embodies it here lol. The lock town on Mill is absolutely beautiful.

I'm having some trouble with CBG, little bit of a love hate relationship. I kind of read his concise posts as town like, they feel like naked thoughts and right to the point. Also some of the silly one liners he's dished have surprisingly pinged me town lol. He has that same attitude vibe that Homer have, although it's not something that is unfakeable (if that is word). Not sure if I'm dumb but post 417 is town for me lmao. We have Mill about to get eliminated, and it's like a meme-y mafia read on him that I just don't think Mafia ever makes. It's fucking hilarious.

Unlike his parents, I have no fucking clue who Bart is. He's in my townpile though. I guess for the bland reasons that his thoughts are genuine bla bla bla lol. I kind of like the little work he's done when he's been playing the game and contributing. Feels real to me, and while it actually matches other peoples reads especially the scum reads, it kind of comes off as he's coming into them on his own like he's playing the game at his own pace.

Kristy, and Lisa are in my PoE. I haven't really figured them out much and some stuff have pinged me. Also not a lot of things to work with. Krusty gives off a weird disattached vibe, like he's a robot if that makes sense lol. There is like no emotion accompanying his posts and it comes off as if he's not actually trying to figure people out just asking questions. Speaking of questions, I'm not seeing him reach much conclusions and seems like he's just faking contributions through those questions who don't seem most of the time to be stuff that will actually help him figure someone out. More like bland and semantic stuff that I guess help him fake contribution. I think his take on Mill's wall post is the kind of wolfy remark used to shade others. He's like piggy backing off others when they're discussing Mill, and he just pops in to point out something that can be seen as scummy and then nothing further. He dips from there with clean hands. Kind of saw it that way.

Not a big fan of Lisa's little contribution. Feels like she's hunting some easy posts to go off of, and then just share some bland takes. She's kind of using them to appear as if contributing. It's not the lack of reasoning that is off to me, it's more like they seem to be random as hell. There is no train of thoughts or contuinity to them, she's not like quoting different posts about a same discussion trying to give her thoughts about them or add to the discussion. She's more putting her hand into a lot of different discussion to I guess appear more visible, and broaden her reach.

Already talked about Gramps and Burns who are at the bottom of my PoE. Haven't really moved much off of them after catching up completely, although I'd say I'm still mulling over some things I've seen from Gramps. Also the inactives thing could be a culture/playstyle clash, but even then I'm not a big fan of the rest of his contribution. The gear shift that Alison built her case on is something I agree with as well. Scums are more likely to make it when called out, and it kind of shows that whatever vibe or attitude they had prior was fake.

I still fucking hate Mr. Burns with a passion. I think he was trying to discredit early on Alison and Otto with the fear mongering about them potentially power wolfing. It's a cheap way to shade someone while posing it as a an open ended question, "oh I'm just aking myself" "I'm not sure". It sounds so fucking fake, and it's usually the kind of cowardy wolf tactics to shade loud voices. No fucking townie put that thought out there immediately. It's so slimy lol.

I've got more thoughts there, and also more thoughts in general but this is it for this post. It actually fucking sucks to come from behind 'cause I have so many problems trying to put into words everything I want to say lol. I guess that'll serve me missing the whole phase. Hopefully I'll keep being up to date this phase. I initially thought about iso-ing every single player and then sharing my thoughts posts by posts as that'd be easier, but fuck that lmao.

Interesting...has trouble putting thoughts into words, then proceeds to post an absolute novel. Ya, makes sense. Also, not a fan at all of the last minute pop-in at EoD last RD, giving Milhouse a townread on pretty much nothing (cuz' that's what Milhouse had done up to that point....nuthin') right before he gets axed. Super convenient way for a wolf to appear towny.

I like this read. Exactly the kind of thing I've been waiting for from you.

And here is an implied TR from Otto to Krusty.

Question is, how did you expect something from him, except you know who he is? Can you confirm you realised who Krusty is and if yes how confident are you? (no need to share the info, just the level of confidence}

What i dislike and it may put lower Krusty in my reads to null is the shade for Milhouse who was not the wolfiest player and a GTH would sqeeze from my brain a not guilty answer.

About Hugh 's reads, that wall needs a little attention in other post.

I'm 100% sure who Otto is

Kinda getting the feeling pretty much all the posters so far are town. Maybe one or two maf between Allison, Grumple and Flanders with the bulk of the bad guys laying low hoping for town to destroy itself
Looking at Skinner, Burns, Milhouse and Hugh Jazz.
So yes, I've named half the fucking roster, need more players to post to start narrowing down from that pool.

Player salad is a subconscious pitfall that mafia people who hate Christmas fall into. They list several names at once without actually listing reasons. It allows for deniability later and gives an illusion of action without actually acting. Allows people in the mafia to talk about their teammates early on without actually pushing meaningful momentum on them so later on when one of them bites the snowball they can point back and be like "aha! I knew buntain simpson was mafia, see? I even said it on day 1".

Posts that often like this:

Kinda getting the feeling pretty much all the posters so far are town. Maybe one or two maf between Allison, Grumple and Flanders with the bulk of the bad guys laying low hoping for town to destroy itself
Looking at Skinner, Burns, Milhouse and Hugh Jazz.
So yes, I've named half the fucking roster, need more players to post to start narrowing down from that pool.

Mr. Mann if you don't mind can you expand on what put Skinner, Burns, Milhouse, and Hugh Jazz on your radar?

Question number second: If one or two of Grumple, Allison, and Flanders are mafia, which one do you think is most likely.

Question number C: what is it about the current game state that leads you to believe that the mafia is laying low?

ah i see. when you say "looking at skinner burns etc" you're not saying "i am currently investigating these four players" you're saying "these four players exemplify the thing i am talking about"

@Otto Mann final question: what made you group me, allison, and flanders together in the same line in the initial post. is there correlation there or just 3 random suspects

thank u for your time

ah i see. when you say "looking at skinner burns etc" you're not saying "i am currently investigating these four players" you're saying "these four players exemplify the thing i am talking about"

Not sure how I could investigate 4 players so you pretty much answered your own question.

I'm taking this post as pretty scummy due to the special hunt and what feels like attempted derp clear all at once.

i didn't even ask a question. i was clarifying your ambiguity for you my dude.

your ambiguity for myself*

@Otto Mann i think maybe you left but please also answer the question about the grouping, it is important, thanks.

@Otto Mann final question: what made you group me, allison, and flanders together in the same line in the initial post. is there correlation there or just 3 random suspects

thank u for your time

Because you were the three lowest posters of the active players.

The idea is to start conversation with the actives and put a little pressure on a number of players.

Ned Flanders: active?

The Grumple's tunneling is a good look.

changing your opinion suddenly irks my buttons, but you are correct that i am tunneling. i am going to turn off the lights and hide in the darkness from my migraine and come back to this with a clear mind.

again thank you for your patience during this holiday season. i appreciate your time and also i love you.

[mention]Bart Simpson[/mention]

[Julinook]

I like Burns' take that Lisa was using emotion to make herself seem more active than she is. I'm not sure I agree with the take but it's not the sort of thing town tends to take note of, and scum never thinks about.

[Julinook]

No one

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27% Voters: Mr. Burns, Otto Mann, Grampa Simpson

Is this a place holder? I used it too but seeing 3 names here looks odd

mine is

for now I guess I'll vote for... uh... h... Homer?

[VOTE: Homer Simpson] aubergine

I see this changing tomorrow

Why Homer over CBG Gramps? I thought I remembered you saying you agreed with the CBG suspicion?

[Boringboi666]

ok grumple is town.

realizing at work, I am also curious what makes you say this.

someone else asked already, I couldn't find their post though

[Julinook]

This is correct. Pure meta read, definitely town core but I can't lock that because he's a tricky bastard but I'm willing to trust him for now.

This is pretty ballsy to come from scum and IME wolf teams are usually scared to tie themselves to each other like that. Plus I have independent townreads on these two so I'm willing to just trust that Otto and Krusty are V/V.

[Julinook]

Eod 1's peaceful atmosphere tells me no wolf was in danger, I would like to see who agrees with this

I think so as well and have said as much earlier.

[Julinook]

CBG's responses have really irked me. I think he's going for a TWTBAW strategy. He's trying to give off an aura of not giving a fuck but his overly flippant attitude feels OTT. I think he's just scum here, maybe even trying his best to anti-spew so as to deny us associative reads.

Bart is probably town here as well. Marge not appearing today has me slightly concerned but I had her as strong town yesterday and I still trust her.

I think I'm on Bart, Grumple, Otto, Hugh, Krusty, Marge, Burns and Skinner as town.

POE is Lisa, Homer, CBG.

I doubt the game is as easy as all three of them being scum but I would be pretty unsurprised if there was 2 scum in that pool. My townreads all look good to me and I'd like to think my reads are good enough that there aren't 2 or more wolves slipping into my town list.

[Julinook]

I got the same impression as Bart that mafia were very complacent and happy with the threadstate yesterday. That makes Burns, Grampa and Hugh look better out of the unflipped people, because they had serious pressure on them at EOD. None of my POE were in any danger of getting exed yesterday, so it doesn't help any of them.

[Julinook]

My take on Grampa is kind of murky right now. He's floating somewhere between my POE and my town list. I was pretty confident he was scum yesterday but some of the stuff he's said/done today has been pretty solid, and I get the strong sensation that wolves were kicking back and relaxing, which I don't think they would have done if Grampa was scum given how much in danger he was.

[Julinook]

I was lowkey looking out for people who tried to give off an aura of not caring after Marge said that wolves on the Syndicate always try hard. The only person who seems to be trying to give off that aura at the moment is CBG and he's been doing it since day 1. Most of the playerlist has seemed to try even harder after Marge said that. I'm not sure what it means, but it's something I had rolling around in mind so I'm putting it out here.

[PonySparkPrime]

I got the same impression as Bart that mafia were very complacent and happy with the threadstate yesterday. That makes Burns, Grampa and Hugh look better out of the unflipped people, because they had serious pressure on them at EOD. None of my POE were in any danger of getting exed yesterday, so it doesn't help any of them.

I don't TR Hugh FTR, his wall was created too well and he is restraining himself from posting as usual, or at least this is what my intuition says, i may be wrong.

But probably i should reread Eod 1 more focused on timings.

[PonySparkPrime]

I was lowkey looking out for people who tried to give off an aura of not caring after Marge said that wolves on the Syndicate always try hard. The only person who seems to be trying to give off that aura at the moment is CBG and he's been doing it since day 1. Most of the playerlist has seemed to try even harder after Marge said that. I'm not sure what it means, but it's something I had rolling around in mind so I'm putting it out here.

That post deserves an award

[Boringboi666]

What is "TR"

[Julinook]

What is "TR"

Townread.

[Boringboi666]

amazing, thank you

[PonySparkPrime]

What is "TR"

Town read

[PonySparkPrime]

When you read like a nerd and answer before glossing over next posts

[Julinook]

Also not sure if anyone answered your previous question yet but a naked vote is when you vote someone without giving any reasoning. Like if your entire post is just VOTE: X and then you dip without explaining why.

[Broken]

I know I haven't had a great game. I'm sorry for not participating more. I'm still town though.

[Paprika]

No one

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27% Voters: Mr. Burns, Otto Mann, Grampa Simpson

Is this a place holder? I used it too but seeing 3 names here looks odd

mine is

for now I guess I'll vote for... uh... h... Homer?

[VOTE: Homer Simpson] aubergine

I see this changing tomorrow

Why Homer over CBG Gramps? I thought I remembered you saying you agreed with the CBG suspicion?

I have reservations about CBG. On one hand you have Marge who says that wolves would want to be active, not aloof (but definitely awoof. haha get it? hahaha guys why aren't you laughing?), but then on the other hand there are players who suss the aloof approach. Outside the Simpson family (excluding me), people haven't liked Homer's posts, so why would Wolf!CBG take on the Homer approach when that's only sat well with a minority? But then if Marge really is right, Wolf!CBG would regress a little to not attract attention, and that would fit here

Except he IS attracting attention.

so it's bad play, but I can't fathom a reason why a wolf would do it when D1!CBG was more town-read and the switch has caused him to drop into the "might be a good choice today" POE

Homer has been consistent, CBG has changed, and I don't know if I think the change is wolf indicative

[Broken]

[VOTE: Mr. Burns] aubergine

Burns and all the Simpsons sans Grampa are most suspicious.

[Hugh Jass]

You're total absence in the thread after what I thought to be an engaged & fruitful start. I also just wanted to shake your tree, see what fell.

hmmm ok

Hugh Jass's novel...to start, the entire.concept came across like "I'm not one for big speeches" and then was followed by a monstrously long speech. I find long winded diatribes easy way for scum to muddy the waters

i think i disagree with this just cus i've been there. falling behind and finally having a time set up to catch up and read and respond to everything all at once. i'll keep a post tab open which i just type thoughts in as they come. this seemed like that to me. and i feel like focusing on the fact that it's a very long post does a disservice to the fact that there's a good amount of analysis in there. though now that you mention it;

Spoiler: show

Finally caught up! I'm feeling things, feeling a lot of things but I'm having trouble trying to put them into words lol. It was also pretty difficult internalizing information, felt like reading posts from new players everywhere and the lack of familiarity with avys I guess you get lost sometimes and don't even remember who said what.

I think my strongest town reads would be Marge, Otto and Alison. Found myself agreeing with like almost everything Marge saying and that's pretty crazy lol. We have the two same scum reads and like most of her posts comes off as natural and you can see her train of thoughts. They're like open and accessible if that makes any sense, doesn't feel like there is an agenda behind them. I usually find the "lol" and other laughing acronyms as scum tells sometimes when they don't really match the tone and vibe of a player, and they're like using them to sweeten their post and comes off as anxious. Here it feels like she's just having fun, and it kind of gives off a good care free vibe that is townie.

Otto and Alison are the og contributors of the thread. I liked the energy they came in with, and it felt like it came with genuine game solving intent. Didn't really agree all that much with some of Otto's reads but they felt genuine, a lot of progression and reconsiderations which makes me feel like he's trying to figure out people for real and not just putting a show. I particularly liked post 72, I think it's the kind of post that only town does. It's nothing fancy but like scum never make them because they're never solving for real. I don't know if this make any sense lol, it's like the kind of self reflecting and gathering of thoughts that comes from a townie mindset when they're trying to get a feel for the state of the game. Agreed with his Gtumple take, felt also genuine and not like him wanting to get Grumple off his back. I understand it too 'cause you usually can have personal takes on how someone is treating you so you can get reads from it, I'm a no u specialist since I feel like I have good instincts for when scum is pushing me for bullshit reasons lol. Overall have the same thought about Alison, I liked her Gramps take and while I started suspecting him for different and more personal reasons, her take are good. The change of speed of Gramps is particularily telling. I also like her feelings about the state of the game and how its going, feel like genuine town concerns.

Pretty much agree with Marge about Homer. The idgaf attitude her and not tailoring his game to people especially after getting prodded is more likely town than not. Also it actually feels genuine, rather than like a scum trying to sell that fake bravado. He kind of embodies it here lol. The lock town on Mill is absolutely beautiful.

I'm having some trouble with CBG, little bit of a love hate relationship. I kind of read his concise posts as town like, they feel like naked thoughts and right to the point. Also some of the silly one liners he's dished have surprisingly pinged me town lol. He has that same attitude vibe that Homer have, although it's not something that is unfakeable (if that is word). Not sure if I'm dumb but post 417 is town for me lmao. We have Mill about to get eliminated, and it's like a meme-y mafia read on him that I just don't think Mafia ever makes. It's fucking hilarious.

Unlike his parents, I have no fucking clue who Bart is. He's in my townpile though. I guess for the bland reasons that his thoughts are genuine bla bla bla lol. I kind of like the little work he's done when he's been playing the game and contributing. Feels real to me, and while it actually matches other peoples reads especially the scum reads, it kind of comes off as he's coming into them on his own like he's playing the game at his own pace.

Kristy, and Lisa are in my PoE. I haven't really figured them out much and some stuff have pinged me. Also not a lot of things to work with. Krusty gives off a weird disattached vibe, like he's a robot if that makes sense lol. There is like no emotion accompanying his posts and it comes off as if he's not actually trying to figure people out just asking questions. Speaking of questions, I'm not seeing him reach much conclusions and seems like he's just faking contributions through those questions who don't seem most of the time to be stuff that will actually help him figure someone out. More like bland and semantic stuff that I guess help him fake contribution. I think his take on Mill's wall post is the kind of wolfy remark used to shade others. He's like piggy backing off others when they're discussing Mill, and he just pops in to point out something that can be seen as scummy and then nothing further. He dips from there with clean hands. Kind of saw it that way.

Not a big fan of Lisa's little contribution. Feels like she's hunting some easy posts to go off of, and then just share some bland takes. She's kind of using them to appear as if contributing. It's not the lack of reasoning that is off to me, it's more like they seem to be random as hell. There is no train of thoughts or contuinity to them, she's not like quoting different posts about a same discussion trying to give her thoughts about them or add to the discussion. She's more putting her hand into a lot of different discussion to I guess appear more visible, and broaden her reach.

Already talked about Gramps and Burns who are at the bottom of my PoE. Haven't really moved much off of them after catching up completely, although I'd say I'm still mulling over some things I've seen from Gramps. Also the inactives thing could be a culture/playstyle clash, but even then I'm not a big fan of the rest of his contribution. The gear shift that Alison built her case on is something I agree with as well. Scums are more likely to make it when called out, and it kind of shows that whatever vibe or attitude they had prior was fake.

I still fucking hate Mr. Burns with a passion. I think he was trying to discredit early on Alison and Otto with the fear mongering about them potentially power wolfing. It's a cheap way to shade someone while posing it as a an open ended question, "oh I'm just aking myself" "I'm not sure". It sounds so fucking fake, and it's usually the kind of cowardy wolf tactics to shade loud voices. No fucking townie put that thought out there immediately. It's so slimy lol.

I've got more thoughts there, and also more thoughts in general but this is it for this post. It actually fucking sucks to come from behind 'cause I have so many problems trying to put into words everything I want to say lol. I guess that'll serve me missing the whole phase. Hopefully I'll keep being up to date this phase. I initially thought about iso-ing every single player and then sharing my thoughts posts by posts as that'd be easier, but fuck that lmao.

Mr. Jass, did you come out of this read/analysis with any particular strong negative reads, and if so what are you doing with them?

I came out of it with an initial Poe of Lisa, Krista, Burns and Gramps. Gramps's been trending up, I liked some of his stuff in our walls war and like I mentioned earlier I had a thought that there might be some cultural clash here. Still afraid of getting burned though, and it's not like his contribution has completely changed from the perception I had of it.

This game feels weird to me right now and I've just been in a weird place between my active/absent periods. Like it's not just about it moving slowly or the inactivity the rythm of it sometimes takes me out of it. It's a weird experience lol. I haven't really done anything to them commitment wise and I still got some homework to do here to see where i'm really at. With 13 players alive, we're looking at 3 more free elimination before any and/or lose situation. So a PoE of 6 is where I should be.

I'll get back to you on this. What about where you're at?

[Broken]

After that, Allison Taylor should still be in the PoE.

[tessepia]

After that, Allison Taylor should still be in the PoE.

After what?

[Akemi Homura]

That's fair, i'm just responding to whatever i see interesting and leave it at that. Can't argue against it. And i can tell you in advance that i probably won't be stronger tommorow or the days after. I might analyse a little more when a wolf dies but i can't guarantee it.

You realise mac came around a few hours before EoD too, threw a few reads with little substance, started crying about town throwing and claimed his identity?
I don't see why you ''feel bad'' about pushing mac but shitting on Skinner is fair game. Isn't that the same thing?

The track is fine. Otto sits in the upper half/middle of the threadstate atleast from my POV. That's where the mafia kill will usually come from. Tinfoiling that he is mafia the moment he doesn't die N1 doesn't do us any favours so putting focus on it isn't a good look.

Don't think anyone even said anything about his play either, just the track itself. I agree that his play is not good anyway.

I felt bad about pushing Mac into claiming Mac. For one thing, at the time I was pretty sure that I had gotten a townie modkilled, which seems like a pretty reasonable feels bad man, and for another I think the blatant breaking of the sock puppet theme was unpleasant and disruptive.

As for Skinner, yeah I have shit on basically every aspect of his play...including the track.

Ok, i'll take it.

[Broken]

After that, Allison Taylor should still be in the PoE.

After what?

Burns + The Simpsons - Grampa

[Akemi Homura]

Is it me or does it feel like Grumple fell down a flight of stairs in the middle of D1

[Hugh Jass]

Fragmenting it, I hate walls

Finally caught up! I'm feeling things, feeling a lot of things but I'm having trouble trying to put them into words lol. It was also pretty difficult internalizing information, felt like reading posts from new players everywhere and the lack of familiarity with avys I guess you get lost sometimes and don't even remember who said what.

I can relate with loosing track of who said what in any anon game, usually until i succeed to remember everyone is already day 3 and mafia is super towny and winning with ease

I think my strongest town reads would be Marge, Otto and Alison. Found myself agreeing with like almost everything Marge saying and that's pretty crazy lol. We have the two same scum reads and like most of her posts comes off as natural and you can see her train of thoughts. They're like open and accessible if that makes any sense, doesn't feel like there is an agenda behind them. I usually find the "lol" and other laughing acronyms as scum tells sometimes when they don't really match the tone and vibe of a player, and they're like using them to sweeten their post and comes off as anxious. Here it feels like she's just having fun, and it kind of gives off a good care free vibe that is townie.

Agree with Marge, mom is cool

But with Otto and Alison looks like a thread consensus. Is it a bad thing? There is also further reasoning about them rather than just an alignment stance.

Otto and Alison are the og contributors of the thread. I liked the energy they came in with, and it felt like it came with genuine game solving intent. Didn't really agree all that much with some of Otto's reads but they felt genuine, a lot of progression and reconsiderations which makes me feel like he's trying to figure out people for real and not just putting a show. I particularly liked post 72, I think it's the kind of post that only town does. It's nothing fancy but like scum never make them because they're never solving for real. I don't know if this make any sense lol, it's like the kind of self reflecting and gathering of thoughts that comes from a townie mindset when they're trying to get a feel for the state of the game. Agreed with his Gtumple take, felt also genuine and not like him wanting to get Grumple off his back. I understand it too 'cause you usually can have personal takes on how someone is treating you so you can get reads from it, I'm a no u specialist since I feel like I have good instincts for when scum is pushing me for bullshit reasons lol. Overall have the same thought about Alison, I liked her Gramps take and while I started suspecting him for different and more personal reasons, her take are good. The change of speed of Gramps is particularily telling. I also like her feelings about the state of the game and how its going, feel like genuine town concerns.

My only problem here is the amount of words, these things should be written in a smaller post. This is like obvious solvy, like he wanted to show skills.
Like a peacock showing coloured feathers.
I admire him but I am not convinced

I wanted to make one post with everything, I had like tons of tabs open mostly consisting of ISOs and one of the main thread. Basically not to lose my train of thoughts. Why is the amount of words an issue? I'd argue when one has trouble putting their thoughts into words as I mentioned, they tend to be overly wordy because they're unable to precisely portray them. Like most of the time I'm not sure if my description of the feelings I had when pinged either way by a post made sense. It's that description that brings the length lol.

Pretty much agree with Marge about Homer. The idgaf attitude her and not tailoring his game to people especially after getting prodded is more likely town than not. Also it actually feels genuine, rather than like a scum trying to sell that fake bravado. He kind of embodies it here lol. The lock town on Mill is absolutely beautiful.

Yes... maybe

Talk to me about him.

I'm having some trouble with CBG, little bit of a love hate relationship. I kind of read his concise posts as town like, they feel like naked thoughts and right to the point. Also some of the silly one liners he's dished have surprisingly pinged me town lol. He has that same attitude vibe that Homer have, although it's not something that is unfakeable (if that is word). Not sure if I'm dumb but post 417 is town for me lmao. We have Mill about to get eliminated, and it's like a meme-y mafia read on him that I just don't think Mafia ever makes. It's fucking hilarious.

Probably clearing CBG for wrong reasons here

Expand.

Unlike his parents, I have no fucking clue who Bart is. He's in my townpile though. I guess for the bland reasons that his thoughts are genuine bla bla bla lol. I kind of like the little work he's done when he's been playing the game and contributing. Feels real to me, and while it actually matches other peoples reads especially the scum reads, it kind of comes off as he's coming into them on his own like he's playing the game at his own pace.

When i first read this long post i felt pocketed by this read, because it's true. I said that this guy should be villager because of this. Meanwhile happened that another game in other site finished and 3 from 4 wolves pocketed me with what i thought are solid reasons.
I don't say Hugh is a wolf for this but i will not give him town cred

I tried

Kristy, and Lisa are in my PoE. I haven't really figured them out much and some stuff have pinged me. Also not a lot of things to work with. Krusty gives off a weird disattached vibe, like he's a robot if that makes sense lol. There is like no emotion accompanying his posts and it comes off as if he's not actually trying to figure people out just asking questions. Speaking of questions, I'm not seeing him reach much conclusions and seems like he's just faking contributions through those questions who don't seem most of the time to be stuff that will actually help him figure someone out. More like bland and semantic stuff that I guess help him fake contribution. I think his take on Mill's wall post is the kind of wolfy remark used to shade others. He's like piggy backing off others when they're discussing Mill, and he just pops in to point out something that can be seen as scummy and then nothing further. He dips from there with clean hands. Kind of saw it that way.

Again too many words for so little activity

What's the little activity here? Also back to the point I made earlier in the post about the description stuff. Like I'm failing to see how this is any different then the Marge read. Disagreeing with the take or the reasoning/pings about the specific posts and tone is one thing, dismissing it like this is another story.

Not a big fan of Lisa's little contribution. Feels like she's hunting some easy posts to go off of, and then just share some bland takes. She's kind of using them to appear as if contributing. It's not the lack of reasoning that is off to me, it's more like they seem to be random as hell. There is no train of thoughts or contuinity to them, she's not like quoting different posts about a same discussion trying to give her thoughts about them or add to the discussion. She's more putting her hand into a lot of different discussion to I guess appear more visible, and broaden her reach.

You know who keeps track of their own thoughts and rarely are wrong in their thoughts' flow? Competent wolves...
Maybe sis is just busy?

That's not exactly what I was talking about. I'm not holding against her thoughts consistency stuff in general, it's not really a scum tell for me. My gripe with how she's contributing. It feels like she's mostly picking out post to quote and piggy back off, she's not really adding to discussion in a way that's game solving or advancing the game. Like there isn't really pertinent points or reaching conclusions, and it's a cheap way to milk interaction and visibility.

Already talked about Gramps and Burns who are at the bottom of my PoE. Haven't really moved much off of them after catching up completely, although I'd say I'm still mulling over some things I've seen from Gramps. Also the inactives thing could be a culture/playstyle clash, but even then I'm not a big fan of the rest of his contribution. The gear shift that Alison built her case on is something I agree with as well. Scums are more likely to make it when called out, and it kind of shows that whatever vibe or attitude they had prior was fake.

Yes?

I still fucking hate Mr. Burns with a passion. I think he was trying to discredit early on Alison and Otto with the fear mongering about them potentially power wolfing. It's a cheap way to shade someone while posing it as a an open ended question, "oh I'm just aking myself" "I'm not sure". It sounds so fucking fake, and it's usually the kind of cowardy wolf tactics to shade loud voices. No fucking townie put that thought out there immediately. It's so slimy lol.

Idk, hard to say he didn't points out a real thing here.

How so?

I've got more thoughts there, and also more thoughts in general but this is it for this post. It actually fucking sucks to come from behind 'cause I have so many problems trying to put into words everything I want to say lol. I guess that'll serve me missing the whole phase. Hopefully I'll keep being up to date this phase. I initially thought about iso-ing every single player and then sharing my thoughts posts by posts as that'd be easier, but fuck that lmao.

Oh no, please don't wall post again.

I won't lol

Overall this post is perfect, an awesome mafia lesson and any critic may only say is too long.
I am affraid i know who Hugh is, realised at the middle of the post

Who is Hugh Jass

Tryping the post I was sure someone would figure out who I was because of it

[Hugh Jass]

Probably should have spoilered that

[PonySparkPrime]

[VOTE: Mr. Burns] aubergine

Burns and all the Simpsons sans Grampa are most suspicious.

Flavour wise a Simpsons mafia should have the family members as wolves
Am i right? Mom, dad, me and sis, plus Mr. Burns
Oops, we are 5, we should chop Sloonei, he put too many wolves in the game

OTOH it would be cool if we would be all villagers.

Hot take: roles are random distributed. What do you think?