Making Friends and Enemies - Game OVER

[Long Con]

Trustworthy Liberal had voiced the same concern Long Con had been feeling: that the lack of concern over the hardclaim made ts account's mason claim - and their insistence upon it - seem very thin. What was the point of it? Alison's hardclaim had changed the game from the outset, and upon reflection, was becoming increasingly doubtful.

Was it paranoia that led Long Con to begin to doubt Alison's claim? Was tutuu merely a civilian pawn in a well-planned game?

[Trustworthy Liberal]

tutuu scum lean
nutella null
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME null
Alison town lean
ts account mason
Funnygurl555 mason
Marmot scum lean
MartinGG99 town lean
DrWilgy null
Long Con scum lean
Enrique null
Trustworthy Liberal null
falcon45ca null

Those are atleast something to base some stuff off.
Curious mainly on the LC read curious why you thought that if you know?

[falcon45ca]

TL giving GTH reads to start, eh? Cool. Also note that her scum leans consists solely of 2 players who've shaded her. No scum reads on anyone who hasn't sussed ya TL? Not even 1?

when did I shade TL

I'm going off what she said about you, "Don't like their comment of i claimed and now i get to coast never true and i feel is less likely to come from a town in any world"

[ts account]

TL giving GTH reads to start, eh? Cool. Also note that her scum leans consists solely of 2 players who've shaded her. No scum reads on anyone who hasn't sussed ya TL? Not even 1?

when did I shade TL

I'm going off what she said about you, "Don't like their comment of i claimed and now i get to coast never true and i feel is less likely to come from a town in any world"

well I don't see how that's me sussing them...

[nutella]

tutuu scum lean
nutella null
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME null
Alison town lean
ts account mason
Funnygurl555 mason
Marmot scum lean
MartinGG99 town lean
DrWilgy null
Long Con scum lean
Enrique null
Trustworthy Liberal null
falcon45ca null

gross nulls are gross

[ts account]

Those are atleast something to base some stuff off.
Curious mainly on the LC read curious why you thought that if you know?

gimmicks like what long con is doing are usually scum tells


nutella fam it's day 1 I shouldn't have to have reads on everyone

[Alison]

Trustworthy Liberal had voiced the same concern Long Con had been feeling: that the lack of concern over the hardclaim made ts account's mason claim - and their insistence upon it - seem very thin. What was the point of it? Alison's hardclaim had changed the game from the outset, and upon reflection, was becoming increasingly doubtful.

Was it paranoia that led Long Con to begin to doubt Alison's claim? Was tutuu merely a civilian pawn in a well-planned game?

I hardclaimed the first post I made, my mason buddy corroborated & hardclaimed the first post she made, and every other competing mason claim is either obviously a joke or has been disproven (like ts account's).

[Alison]

I'm going to sleep and leaving my vote here. Nothing ts has done or said has made me change my mind on them. I know for a fact that they aren't the mason and the fact that they're still clinging to their claim so late in the day, with so much pressure on them, makes this look like a legitimate attempt at fakeclaiming.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

There’s like four of us already outed

Scum probably won’t kill me cause they think I’m bluffing but little do they know I’m incapable of rolling mason without immediately claiming it

What do you do when you roll mafia though?

Usually bitch about rolling mafia in scum chat and half the time I claim mafia in the thread

[ts account]

I'm going to sleep and leaving my vote here. Nothing ts has done or said has made me change my mind on them. I know for a fact that they aren't the mason and the fact that they're still clinging to their claim so late in the day, with so much pressure on them, makes this look like a legitimate attempt at fakeclaiming.

you think you're so good at this game doncha

[ts account]

might just say screw this game and let it happen honestly, not my fault people decide to kill me for playing, should have just stayed afk

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I hate voting for TL but I don’t wanna kill TS either so

[ts account]

I hate voting for TL 😭 but I don’t wanna kill TS either so

There is
Another

[Long Con]

"A legitimate attempt at fakeclaiming," she said, her tone making it clear that she would brook no argument. And yet, ts account had not done the most obvious thing that the "true mason" would do: cry foul against the original claimants!

Did this fact make ts more or less likely to be a wolf? Or is Alison the wolf for calling it legitimate when it was missing a key factor?

[Trustworthy Liberal]

I hate voting for TL but I don’t wanna kill TS either so

But who do you suspect cause i would rather vote Falcon or ts today

[Trustworthy Liberal]

also 4 none voters with only 4 hours left in the day

[ts account]

TL most if not all of the wolves are in your town reads
I'm sorry

[MartinGG99]

might just say screw this game and let it happen honestly, not my fault people decide to kill me for playing, should have just stayed afk

Well your original plan of "playing" seemingly was to rely on a single plan of being afk with an unmentioned vote until someone other than you mentions it

Which could've gone unnoticed for the entirety of D1 by people like me

As much as you think its obvious that wasn't a real vote I honestly wish the same level of thought could've been given to that plan to see its possible faults.

Presuming you're town ofc.

[Trustworthy Liberal]

TL most if not all of the wolves are in your town reads
I'm sorry

Your saying the 3 wofls are in my 4 town reads?

[Marmot]

There’s like four of us already outed

Scum probably won’t kill me cause they think I’m bluffing but little do they know I’m incapable of rolling mason without immediately claiming it

What do you do when you roll mafia though?

Usually bitch about rolling mafia in scum chat and half the time I claim mafia in the thread

Gotch, so I should probably suss you since you're complaining about your role in chat.

[MartinGG99]

IMO I would not like to see a TL elimination today, at the very least.

I don't know if I should be giving TS a pass, but what I do know is that for now I think TL is towny enough from my point of view to not eliminate on D1.

[ts account]

might just say screw this game and let it happen honestly, not my fault people decide to kill me for playing, should have just stayed afk

Well your original plan of "playing" seemingly was to rely on a single plan of being afk with an unmentioned vote until someone other than you mentions it

Which could've gone unnoticed for the entirety of D1 by people like me

As much as you think its obvious that wasn't a real vote I honestly wish the same level of thought could've been given to that plan to see its possible faults.

Presuming you're town ofc.

I'm not certain that an unannounced vote on my partner and friend should be taken as seriously as it was
the whole thing is just ridiculous to me

[ts account]

TL most if not all of the wolves are in your town reads
I'm sorry

Your saying the 3 wofls are in my 4 town reads?

I'm looking at 2 rn, long con + tutu
falcon might be a wolf but I think inverting your reads list is a better idea than running with it

[nutella]

[VOTE: ts account] aubergine

[Marmot]

I just finished a webinar and am making risotto but I'm here now.

Also, my vote will prooooobably switch.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I hate voting for TL but I don’t wanna kill TS either so

But who do you suspect cause i would rather vote Falcon or ts today

Obviously not TS lol

[Marmot]

I stand by what I said earlier, we shouldn't vote off someone who's claimed mason at this point. That includes ts (and by association fg).

[tutuu]

alison kept nagging me to vote okay FINE ALISON RELAX ALREADY

[VOTE: ts account] aubergine

[tutuu]

didnt read lol

[ts account]

this is so cringe

I'd rather just die at this point, town doesn't deserve to win

[Trustworthy Liberal]

I don't like how this page has desolved honestly.

[Marmot]

alison kept nagging me to vote okay FINE ALISON RELAX ALREADY

[VOTE: ts account] aubergine

You should vote of your own volition, not on your secret cha'ts account.

[Trustworthy Liberal]

alison kept nagging me to vote okay FINE ALISON RELAX ALREADY

[VOTE: ts account] aubergine

Also this is super bad if TS flips mason tutuu should be immediatly yeeted

[MartinGG99]

I don't like how this page has desolved honestly.

Okay, I'll admit I may have been unfairly condescending at one point or another.

I do have an issue with being that way sometimes, though I do try to work on not doing that in the future.

[Trustworthy Liberal]

[VOTE: ts account] aubergine

Can you go more into this?
Why am i no longer a good vote?
Why is TS a good vote now?

Whats your thoughts on Nanook and Marmot defending TS?

[ts account]

tutuu is laughing inside because a townie claimed them as their mason partner and now gets to kill both masons

[Trustworthy Liberal]

I don't like how this page has desolved honestly.

Okay, I'll admit I may have been unfairly condescending at one point or another.

I do have an issue with being that way sometimes, though I do try to work on not doing that in the future.

No in general your posts this page has been okay i mean the wagons went

3 TS
4 Trusty

to

5 TS
2Trusty

with very little progression and both tutuu and nutella not giving reasons for the switch

[Marmot]

[VOTE: ts account] aubergine

Can you go more into this?
Why am i no longer a good vote?
Why is TS a good vote now?

Whats your thoughts on Nanook and Marmot defending TS?

I'm not defending ts, so much as saying that they're not an optimal Day 1 vote.

[Trustworthy Liberal]

tutuu is laughing inside because a townie claimed them as their mason partner and now gets to kill both masons

While legit worst case we go 1 for 1 there for you and them.
As the admited in that post to have communication with alison

[MartinGG99]

tutuu is laughing inside because a townie claimed them as their mason partner and now gets to kill both masons

tbh if you flip mason then Alison + Tutuu (namely Alison) get a lot of heat on them for pressing their claim against yours

I would imagine

[ts account]

tutuu is laughing inside because a townie claimed them as their mason partner and now gets to kill both masons

While legit worst case we go 1 for 1 there for you and them.
As the admited in that post to have communication with alison

that's... not a statement you should be taking at face value

[Trustworthy Liberal]

[VOTE: ts account] aubergine

Can you go more into this?
Why am i no longer a good vote?
Why is TS a good vote now?

Whats your thoughts on Nanook and Marmot defending TS?

I'm not defending ts, so much as saying that they're not an optimal Day 1 vote.

Still will count that as a soft defend cause it is.
If not ts who are your two prefored wagons?

[Trustworthy Liberal]

As martian said they said it in that way for a reason either they are the mason pair or tutuu is using the mason claim as an reason to not justify a vote.

[MartinGG99]

I don't like how this page has desolved honestly.

Okay, I'll admit I may have been unfairly condescending at one point or another.

I do have an issue with being that way sometimes, though I do try to work on not doing that in the future.

No in general your posts this page has been okay i mean the wagons went

3 TS
4 Trusty

to

5 TS
2Trusty

with very little progression and both tutuu and nutella not giving reasons for the switch

That is true.

However I do believe Nutella has given past, more recent comments, prior to the vote post that align with that vote in context.

Example:

Fake claims that are meant for cover generally don't generate this kind of statement imo:

"I shouldn't really need to contribute when I'm claimed PR"

this

[tutuu]

ok i changed my mind i shall not assist in attempting to kill u ts account

consider urself lucky and bow down before my mercifulness and magnamoniousness. if u do not show your due respect there will be severe consequences

[VOTE: lib] aubergine

[tutuu]

nutella mafia she rly needs to die trust me

[tutuu]

still havent read, lmao!!!

[tutuu]

i am an expert nutella reader i have never been wrong on her and always been right on her shes mafia here trust me

[tutuu]

hot take marmot is town here

i agree but cuz im town and im smart and nutella cheated here

[Marmot]

still havent read, lmao!!!

i am an expert nutella reader i have never been wrong on her and always been right on her shes mafia here trust me