Making Friends and Enemies - Game OVER

[falcon45ca]

Enrique looked horrible jumping onto Nanook after I did.


When I jumped onto Nanook, I believe ts had 6? Nanook 2? I didn't jump off ts, but where was Enriques vote before his jump? I'll have to check.


Anyways, his jump at EOD with no thread participation leading into it? Put Nanook at 4 to ts 6, possibly 5 if Nanook jumped from that wagon.



Scum. Book it.

[nutella]

really sorry I missed eod I was extremely caught up in the excitement of winning the huge hydra game on mu and it was amazing and probably one of my top 3 town performances ever sooooooo I was kinda overwhelmed with that stuff and missed this oops

not fully convinced by fg/ts eod


also alison wasnt here but timezones i guess rip

[ts account]

FG and I are discussing who to use the shot on
whatever we decide, we'll likely decline to share the identity and instead leave a way for them to identify themselves when they need to

I'm pretty sure that's the optimal way to play mason here and FG doesn't really feel differently

[MartinGG99]

I would like to note that the primary reason why I ended up shifting my vote is because I think LC meant at one point that the wolves/mafia may really know who the masons are at this point.

So either they kill one of the masons, or risk getting a 3-mason team which (depending on who its used on and who's the mason team) could really shift things in the game [As compared to somehow eliminating a mason and the other getting NK'ed]

Depending on the NK we (or I) may resume our "lets eliminate TS/Funny" discussions

I also might go along with Falcon's recent suspicions of Enrique, though I'm not sheeping him because Enrique was one of my early suspicions.

[Long Con]

Long Con paused. He had not intended to imply that the mafia team knew who the masons were by default.

He struggled to recall why he had purportedly given that impression. Perhaps in reasoning that the mafia team would have a fake horse in the race? Which would give them a better angle from which to figure out the real masons than any vanilla town...

[MartinGG99]

Long Con paused. He had not intended to imply that the mafia team knew who the masons were by default.

You might've not implied it, but I generally felt and believed that the masons were in either Alison/Tutuu or TS/Funny

I also thought that was kinda obvious itt. I mean, I believe I do recall Alison specifically hard-claiming against TS:

Trustworthy Liberal had voiced the same concern Long Con had been feeling: that the lack of concern over the hardclaim made ts account's mason claim - and their insistence upon it - seem very thin. What was the point of it? Alison's hardclaim had changed the game from the outset, and upon reflection, was becoming increasingly doubtful.

Was it paranoia that led Long Con to begin to doubt Alison's claim? Was tutuu merely a civilian pawn in a well-planned game?

I hardclaimed the first post I made, my mason buddy corroborated & hardclaimed the first post she made, and every other competing mason claim is either obviously a joke or has been disproven (like ts account's).

Unless I misread this quote somehow?

Also I find it a bit difficult to believe (in a hypothetical world) that 2 teams of fake-claim masons (who are all town) would work together in announcing their PR status like that and going at each other like they did a bit on D1.

Though I think FG strongly suggested Alison was "Null", and Tutuu was showing some hesitancy off the top of my head (But I may be misremembering).

[Funnygurl555]

FG and I are discussing who to use the shot on
whatever we decide, we'll likely decline to share the identity and instead leave a way for them to identify themselves when they need to

I'm pretty sure that's the optimal way to play mason here and FG doesn't really feel differently

i actually dunno how to play mason at all LOL but thanks for making it look like i have an opinion

[Alison]

Imagine CFD'ing a townie while I'm asleep

[falcon45ca]

Imagine CFD'ing a townie while I'm asleep

It happened. Care to take a look at the wagon movement at EoD, give us some thoughts?

[Funnygurl555]

the flip sounds about right

[ts account]

imagine trying to death sentence a PR before going to sleep

[Alison]

imagine trying to death sentence a PR before going to sleep

You are not a PR. I am a hardclaimed mason, I've spewed myself as obviously way beyond the range of mason cover and will probably die tonight, and when I flip I want everyone to turbo exe this slot.

[ts account]

imagine trying to death sentence a PR before going to sleep

You are not a PR. I am a hardclaimed mason, I've spewed myself as obviously way beyond the range of mason cover and will probably die tonight, and when I flip I want everyone to turbo exe this slot.

k see you tomorrow

[Funnygurl555]

fite fite fite

[Alison]

EOD analysis:

- nutella looks good

- falcon looks bad

- can we get wilgy replaced?

[Alison]

@funnygurl555

I give you one chance to retract your corroboration of TS' claim. I am the Mason and I am telling you right now that I know for a fact he is not and neither are you.

[Alison]

@funnygurl @ts account

This has long since left the point of mason cover. We're now entering into a territory where VT giving cover should have retracted their claim long ago. If you continue to claim Mason you will be immediately executed the moment I flip and I will thunderdome you as long as I am alive. I give you advance warning. Retract your claim immediately or die.

[Alison]

EOD analysis:

- nutella looks good

- falcon looks bad

- can we get wilgy replaced?

LC looks kinda bad too. Good opener but he's dropped off since then.

[Trustworthy Liberal]

Okay so the reason i switch vote was litteraly just cause i could see the reaction of them being masons there is a world its true in and the two backing each other in a hard claim I would have rathered CFC to farmot or even marmot but nanooks bare vote earlyier was atleast somewhat sus.
Seeing the VT flip i actually feel bad about it and hope it was the right call.

Cause in the would TS flipped mason and funny was the other we just lose the entire cop check which is extremly bad.
IE both get killed before results.

So i don't regret unvoteing TS there but i do regret voting Nanook.

[Alison]

TL probably town.

[Trustworthy Liberal]

FG and I are discussing who to use the shot on
whatever we decide, we'll likely decline to share the identity and instead leave a way for them to identify themselves when they need to

I'm pretty sure that's the optimal way to play mason here and FG doesn't really feel differently

This is the way you play it honestly atleast i think at the very least just make sure to not spend to much time over thinking the not clearing them tommorow.

[Trustworthy Liberal]

TL probably town.

Am happy you can see it now atleast. I think i am gonna look over the EoD and see how it was in my head for updated reads.

[Trustworthy Liberal]

Votes that are posted in thread around EoD (can't look back otherwise)

falcon
Enrique
Martian
Trust Worthy
Ts account
Falcon jumps off (Noting this cause while i should)

Oh these
Falcon gives no case and lays a bear vote against a ts vote. Note: this is before funny came in and defended ts and people were looking at moving.
Enrique asks who to vote funny said maybe nanook and they voted saying nothing
Martian didn't like the town read which was also why funny disliked them (Most reason posted out of everyone one yet a concern they should have been more forward with earlyier as town)
Myself (TL) voted in order to not have tied votes it was at the time i wrote my post and changed it i think martions actially broke the tie but i rathered not mason last second.
ts account hammers it in for self pres saying its bad.

Falcon tries to jump off after EoD taking this as trying to seem more towny then they are/ still a top sus read for myself.

LC is around and didn't take a side except that no case on Nanook (Which is ture) but i honestly don't know where their vote laid.

Take this as
Mikey(TS) and Funny COULD be masons same as Alison and Tutuu am fine with letting them resolve and explain why they acted as they did cause your not all four townies.
LC needs to give reads and push them very passive Day 1. Same for Enrigue .

Thats some level 1 reads at 2am with trusty

[tutuu]

Didnt know there was a post cap sorry for going 3 over it

[tutuu]

TS and FG are clearly not masons lol

[tutuu]

Notice how FG kept screaming "MIKEY IS NOT WOLF" instead of "MIKEY IS MASON"

FG is vanilla town and TS is a wolf

[tutuu]

Marmot can also be wolf

I want to kill TS Marmot and what Enrique?

[tutuu]

Sunno

[tutuu]

MIKEY IS NOT A WOLF

[tutuu]

PLEASE MOVE YOUR VOTES MIKEY IS NOT A WOLF

[ts account]

Notice how tutu kept screaming ts is a wolf and tried to find reasons to dispute the claim instead of saying they were the real masons

too easy, sit down before you hurt yourself

[tutuu]

She said mason without caps earlier but when the shit hit the fan she kept saying NOT WOLF

Thats not how mason buddies defend each other

Its way more likely she would have kept screaming bot to yeet the MASON buddy

I think FG is VT who townread mikey and she didnt wanna lie / cover too much so saying NOT WOLF over MASON was a compromise between being honest and providing cover

[tutuu]

Marmot can also be wolf

I want to kill TS Marmot and what Enrique?

Forgot about wilgy lol

[ts account]

She said mason without caps earlier but when the shit hit the fan she kept saying NOT WOLF

Thats not how mason buddies defend each other

Its way more likely she would have kept screaming bot to yeet the MASON buddy

I think FG is VT who townread mikey and she didnt wanna lie / cover too much so saying NOT WOLF over MASON was a compromise between being honest and providing cover

once again you make judgement on people you don't really know...

it's honestly funny sitting here knowing how wrong you are but I'm also pretty sure you're a wolf so maybe you're intentionally playing bad

[tutuu]

If we didnt make judgements on people we didnt know we might as well quit playing mafia. What a silly thing to say!

[Alison]

Notice how FG kept screaming "MIKEY IS NOT WOLF" instead of "MIKEY IS MASON"

FG is vanilla town and TS is a wolf

^^^

[Alison]

Just run ts up tomorrow when I'm dead.

[Funnygurl555]

[tutuu]

most people view me as this wholesome happy go lucky girl so when i go to the podium for my stand up comedy and i unleash the morbid humor jokes ppl get all wild

[Marmot]

So I've noticed that we ts is still alive and we have one fewer townie.

[Marmot]

tutuu, you're on my do not vote list for the day, but now you're scaring me.

my last few posts were pretty towny

ur paranoia is just cuz u dont got big balls

i never reevaluate reads cuz i got the biggest balls. i also win every game i swear

Do TP actually say this about themselves?

I declared myself as confirmed town in my last game here. I was in fact town.

I don't think it's a scummy thing to say though.

I'm still curious... To anyone who wants to answer. What's the case on TL again?

People disliked my first post was the main case cause i said a word twice
getting busyier now so will try to keep an eye around for questions

That's not why I scum read your intro. It read like a wolf trying to act casual entering the thread. 1st post by wolves are often awkward, with odd jokes and a je na sais quoi element, as it's hard to enter a discussion with more info than everyone else and act the same. It becomes easier as the conversations develop of course, and your posting since your entrance certainly fits the bill.



Yeah, I'm still scum reading you. Do you have a reason for sussing me, outside of OMGUS? If OMGUS is all you have, that's cool, no hard feelings.



I also find your scum list too short and your null list too large.

What does your list look like?

Also, I completely disagree about scum's first posts.

saying wolves' first posts are awkward is super reductive and implies that rolling wolf would have an adverse affect on most or all people who roll it

you're never going to find wolves by lynching off first posts

Try telling Mac that

he strongly believes in first post reads and I think he has a p good record of accuracy with them.

the beginning of the game is a key time for showing mindset and stuff

I completely disagree about scum's first posts.

we should cfd onto marmot

I would've enjoyed that if I was here.

Actually, can you or whoever mafia is just nightkill me tonight so I can see my drawing?

[Marmot]

I would like to note that the primary reason why I ended up shifting my vote is because I think LC meant at one point that the wolves/mafia may really know who the masons are at this point.

So either they kill one of the masons, or risk getting a 3-mason team which (depending on who its used on and who's the mason team) could really shift things in the game [As compared to somehow eliminating a mason and the other getting NK'ed]

Depending on the NK we (or I) may resume our "lets eliminate TS/Funny" discussions

I also might go along with Falcon's recent suspicions of Enrique, though I'm not sheeping him because Enrique was one of my early suspicions.

Are you worried about being accused of sheeping?

[Marmot]

Am I understanding the host correctly in that I can only post 99 times tonight?


Also, does anyone have the poll results? I didn't get a chance to see them, I only see a dead Nanook. I can try to recreate them if not.

[Marmot]

Actually, I'll just go ask my mason buddy.

[tutuu]

Am I understanding the host correctly in that I can only post 99 times tonight?


Also, does anyone have the poll results? I didn't get a chance to see them, I only see a dead Nanook. I can try to recreate them if not.

100 posts per day 50 per night i believe. the number the host posted was to tell u ur post count at eod1 so u can calculate urself how much u got left

[chardonnay]

Am I understanding the host correctly in that I can only post 99 times tonight?


Also, does anyone have the poll results? I didn't get a chance to see them, I only see a dead Nanook. I can try to recreate them if not.

100 posts per day 50 per night i believe. the number the host posted was to tell u ur post count at eod1 so u can calculate urself how much u got left

100 post cap per day, and 50 during the night is correct. However the post caps I posted at night start are everybody's posts plus 50. So basically I already configured the limit each person could post by adding fifity. As long as your "posts in topic" dont go over those caps then you're fine.

Town doesn't have to do any math on thier end to know thier cap.

[falcon45ca]

Votes that are posted in thread around EoD (can't look back otherwise)

falcon
Enrique
Martian
Trust Worthy
Ts account
Falcon jumps off (Noting this cause while i should)

Oh these
Falcon gives no case and lays a bear vote against a ts vote. Note: this is before funny came in and defended ts and people were looking at moving.
Enrique asks who to vote funny said maybe nanook and they voted saying nothing
Martian didn't like the town read which was also why funny disliked them (Most reason posted out of everyone one yet a concern they should have been more forward with earlyier as town)
Myself (TL) voted in order to not have tied votes it was at the time i wrote my post and changed it i think martions actially broke the tie but i rathered not mason last second.
ts account hammers it in for self pres saying its bad.

Falcon tries to jump off after EoD taking this as trying to seem more towny then they are/ still a top sus read for myself.

LC is around and didn't take a side except that no case on Nanook (Which is ture) but i honestly don't know where their vote laid.

Take this as
Mikey(TS) and Funny COULD be masons same as Alison and Tutuu am fine with letting them resolve and explain why they acted as they did cause your not all four townies.
LC needs to give reads and push them very passive Day 1. Same for Enrigue .

Thats some level 1 reads at 2am with trusty

This read on me is so bad, I think TL is town

[Funnygurl555]

most people view me as this wholesome happy go lucky girl so when i go to the podium for my stand up comedy and i unleash the morbid humor jokes ppl get all wild

LOL

[MartinGG99]

LC is around and didn't take a side except that no case on Nanook (Which is ture) but i honestly don't know where their vote laid.

I distinctly remember LC's and DrWilgy's vote being on Nanook, or at least together at one point somewhere.

I'm not 99% sure if it was on Nanook though. But I did specifically mentally note it down once I believe.

I also recall there was a total of 8 votes on Nanook by EoD....meaning only 5 players didn't vote Nanook in the end.

[MartinGG99]

Notice how FG kept screaming "MIKEY IS NOT WOLF" instead of "MIKEY IS MASON"

FG is vanilla town and TS is a wolf

Good point.

Also I though I might point this stuff out, since there's a W/V hypothesis of TS/FG.

#413

FG HAS BEEN PLAYING POKER THIS WHOLE TIME
AND IGNORING ME

#437

i'm back and holy hell was it weird to see the carrots

#444

i'm sorry i was playing poker