Shadow Corridors Mafia [GAME OVER]

[MacDougall]

I do think Tutuu bringing up the Mastermind-Obliterator role in her second post is unusual but I'm not sure if that's scummy. Are there other reasons people are scumreading her?

I don't have enough experience with Tutuu to say whether her vibe is different in a scummy way. I've seen two town games of hers and she vibed very differently in those two games so I'm not seeing it as a huge surprise she has a different style and level of comfort again. I know she was less comfortable in the MafC game and that's why she vibed so differently early on. This game feels in between her Grasslands game and the Skyrim game on MafC in level of comfort.

How so?

[112]

thunal w

[MacDougall]

everyone scum reading tutuuu. hmmm... what did she do wrong, I don't remember her getting scum read this early.

idk man haters with their unrealistic expectations

are you depressed because for so long you've been waiting to thrash us and show us how dangerous it was for us to always townclear you early and now when you finally rolled scum you get suspected immediately?

alison town.

Don't give her this read that easily. That's a death sentence.

[112]

i townread tutuu

[sprityo]

like if the obliterator is alive when mafia wins mafia dont actually win?

Correct

[MacDougall]

I won't be super prominent here but I will still solve the game so all g bb

Oh hey mac, glad to play with you again.

you too homeskillet

Mac I feel I like played with you over on MU.

Yes. Lend's Bastard Fiesta.

[MacDougall]

i townread tutuu

I feel caught in the middle between extremists haha

[sprityo]

ugh this game hurts to think about goddammit sprityo

if mafia really dont know who each other are we can't make any traditional associative reads :/


tho they may be able to guess identities like in anon games

[MacDougall]

That post actually looks like scum Poison overextending an attack on town tutuu honestly. The "tensed and is not making proper sense" part is not natural wording for someone trying to express a suspicion. It's like you're trying to discredit tutuu without outright calling her scum (and I don't think you've outright called tutuu scum the whole game, either).

I don't think Poison/tutuu are W/W, but there's one scum between them at least.

I think you might be right.

[MacDougall]

BoKnows is such a fucking innocent child lol

I really still do not understand this read.

[sprityo]

I signed up for this game anonymously in hopes that I could play on a sockpuppet and not have to be myself, but now I am myself so I’ll probably need to do things.

I thought I was gonna be like hidden on the playerlist so I could just slank day 1 then surprise everyone at EOD.

Oh yeah I did say I was gonna do that, not reveal unless someone posted, whoops

[112]

i townread tutuu

I feel caught in the middle between extremists haha

Ted Kaczynski here, ready to abandon the town for a life in a cabin/prison cell.

[MacDougall]

I do like Tutuus plea to get more leash. Nothing is more frustrating than being wrongly labelled early into a game and you're on the defence for the majority of the round.

Also if the thunal and alison masons thing is in fact a thing that would be huge. start clearing some people

Hmmm maybe there is a point.

[112]

Joe, level with me. Why is everyone overlooking the obvious wolf Thunal?

[MacDougall]

Is it too late for the simple Hey enterance?

[sig]

Wtf why is there 16 pages on day 0

[MacDougall]

Joe, level with me. Why is everyone overlooking the obvious wolf Thunal?

Do you have Thunal meta?

[112]

Wtf why is there 16 pages on day 0

agree

[MacDougall]

Wtf why is there 16 pages on day 0

Would you believe I contributed like hardly any of this? I only started posting like half an hour ago lol.

[sig]

I've somehow went from zero games since like, June? To being in 2, hella rusty, and appernelty surrounded by crazy ppl who post too much rip.

[112]

Joe, level with me. Why is everyone overlooking the obvious wolf Thunal?

Do you have Thunal meta?

We've played quite a few turbos together, although this is kind of different. He feels stilted imo.

[sig]

Wtf why is there 16 pages on day 0

Would you believe I contributed like hardly any of this? I only started posting like half an hour ago lol.

I would not, but I move to immediately lynch whomever has the most posts.

[Thunal33]

anyway, sloonei is actually lock mafia sheep me fools

meant his 2nd post about wishing he had a sock / not wanting ppl to read him


anyway his iso has gotten even worse recently, talking about forum tools and other non-game-relevant stuff, trying to act forcedly casual, and obviously being more aware of the mafia anon thing bringing it up and then trying to cover that up by saying he could be misreading it, i had no idea that was even a thing but clearly he did. like it's possible he had just read it carefully and noticed it but i wasn't convinced that was the correct interpretation until sprit confirmed cause it seems so wild to me, but sloonei seemed to know

Hmmmmmmm

I'm not sure if a !scum sloonei is the correct call for that sort of thing.

If he's a wolf and he's not talking about the game then he's not trying to drive the thread anywhere, for better or worse.

Ideally speaking, a wolf would want to influence the thread so its more favorable to them.

[srike]Of course, he DID win the champs and I don't exactly "know" them but I would rather not risk overthinking this[/strike]

i dont wanna bring in champs reads too much but he was only ever town in his games there so it's not really representative of his skill as wolf alignment and remember how i found him easily in grasslands

his iso here is shit.

Sloonei's ISO is very similar to what it was at the start of Grasslands. He said in wolf chat that he could fake solving but found it hard to fake motivation, and I'm not seeing much motivation here. Is Sloonei generally lower motivation as scum?

[112]

I haven't ruled out Alison as scum but do like her effort to PoE.

[Alison]

Grand Scheme is literally open wolfing in front of everyone's faces.

i dont see it

Says they want to see the tutuu conflict firsthand, but no followup or evidence they actually went back and read it. Is asked for thoughts, lays down two townreads on consensus-townread players. You ask people to sheep you on Sloonei, and they agree immediately, in a way that makes it clear it's "not their fault" if Sloonei flips green. Follows by straight-up giving advice to a mafia role on optimal play. I see this as hostile 3P trying to help the mafia coordinate by giving advice to the Obliterator.

[MacDougall]

Joe, level with me. Why is everyone overlooking the obvious wolf Thunal?

Do you have Thunal meta?

We've played quite a few turbos together, although this is kind of different. He feels stilted imo.

Thunal is tough for me. I think they are scummy as either alignment. I certainly am not town reading them. That post I quoted was the one that was the scummiest fmpov.

I think Thunal kinda gets wolfier or scummier as the game goes on depending on their alignment so I'm not super worried about them.

[Alison]

Thundercat lock scum

Maybe not lock scum

but I do think that post was preety bad imo

I think it points to a playstyle/meta difference more than anything.

[MacDougall]

I haven't ruled out Alison as scum but do like her effort to PoE.

Alison is probably town but yeah what you said

[Thunal33]

Joe, level with me. Why is everyone overlooking the obvious wolf Thunal?

Do you have Thunal meta?

We've played quite a few turbos together, although this is kind of different. He feels stilted imo.

I'm 100% more planned and I think through my posts a lot more as any alignment when I'm not in turbos. Turbo meta isn't that useful to apply to full games imo. Is the "obvious wolf" thing more a reaction test/to make a point I should be considered or do you really believe I'm obvious wolf?

[112]

Grand Scheme is literally open wolfing in front of everyone's faces.

i dont see it

Says they want to see the tutuu conflict firsthand, but no followup or evidence they actually went back and read it. Is asked for thoughts, lays down two townreads on consensus-townread players. You ask people to sheep you on Sloonei, and they agree immediately, in a way that makes it clear it's "not their fault" if Sloonei flips green. Follows by straight-up giving advice to a mafia role on optimal play. I see this as hostile 3P trying to help the mafia coordinate by giving advice to the Obliterator.

good stuff

[MacDougall]

I am threadspewed town because everyone thinks im scum

This feels honest

[Alison]

thunal w

weird read. why?

[112]

Joe, level with me. Why is everyone overlooking the obvious wolf Thunal?

Do you have Thunal meta?

We've played quite a few turbos together, although this is kind of different. He feels stilted imo.

I'm 100% more planned and I think through my posts a lot more as any alignment when I'm not in turbos. Turbo meta isn't that useful to apply to full games imo. Is the "obvious wolf" thing more a reaction test/to make a point I should be considered or do you really believe I'm obvious wolf?

I don't think you're super obvious per se but you're the only player i have a decently strong scum read on.

[Thunal33]

I do think Tutuu bringing up the Mastermind-Obliterator role in her second post is unusual but I'm not sure if that's scummy. Are there other reasons people are scumreading her?

I don't have enough experience with Tutuu to say whether her vibe is different in a scummy way. I've seen two town games of hers and she vibed very differently in those two games so I'm not seeing it as a huge surprise she has a different style and level of comfort again. I know she was less comfortable in the MafC game and that's why she vibed so differently early on. This game feels in between her Grasslands game and the Skyrim game on MafC in level of comfort.

How so?

I felt like Tutuu's entrance wasn't quite as silly/zany as her play was in Grasslands but it was sillier than her play in the MafC game, and I feel like Tutuu's degree of silliness is due to level of comfort or mood.

[Alison]

BoKnows is such a fucking innocent child lol

I really still do not understand this read.

Can I just say trust me on this one and take it on faith for now?

[MacDougall]

I do think Tutuu bringing up the Mastermind-Obliterator role in her second post is unusual but I'm not sure if that's scummy. Are there other reasons people are scumreading her?

I don't have enough experience with Tutuu to say whether her vibe is different in a scummy way. I've seen two town games of hers and she vibed very differently in those two games so I'm not seeing it as a huge surprise she has a different style and level of comfort again. I know she was less comfortable in the MafC game and that's why she vibed so differently early on. This game feels in between her Grasslands game and the Skyrim game on MafC in level of comfort.

How so?

I felt like Tutuu's entrance wasn't quite as silly/zany as her play was in Grasslands but it was sillier than her play in the MafC game, and I feel like Tutuu's degree of silliness is due to level of comfort or mood.

Silliness = level of comfort?

[MacDougall]

BoKnows is such a fucking innocent child lol

I really still do not understand this read.

Can I just say trust me on this one and take it on faith for now?

Sure

[112]

thunal w

weird read. why?

some of his questions don't seem genuine and he's making lots of points that seem detailed enough but have a feeling about them that he's just trying to find things to say.

[Alison]

thunal is a she, and as far as I can tell the things you're identifying about thunal as scummy are just part of her town range

[Thunal33]

I do think Tutuu bringing up the Mastermind-Obliterator role in her second post is unusual but I'm not sure if that's scummy. Are there other reasons people are scumreading her?

I don't have enough experience with Tutuu to say whether her vibe is different in a scummy way. I've seen two town games of hers and she vibed very differently in those two games so I'm not seeing it as a huge surprise she has a different style and level of comfort again. I know she was less comfortable in the MafC game and that's why she vibed so differently early on. This game feels in between her Grasslands game and the Skyrim game on MafC in level of comfort.

How so?

I felt like Tutuu's entrance wasn't quite as silly/zany as her play was in Grasslands but it was sillier than her play in the MafC game, and I feel like Tutuu's degree of silliness is due to level of comfort or mood.

Silliness = level of comfort?

That's what I had a theory about, I think Tutuu was more serious in the MafC game at the start since it was a new community with unknown people so she would be less comfortable. I think Tutuu might just be in a different mental state than Grasslands and her different play is due to that. Tutuu's reaction to the suspicion on her is very towny though.

[Alison]

Like "Thunal is scum because she is making detailed posts" is not a read that makes sense to me, as someone who's seen the way Thunal towns.

[112]

her* sorry

[sig]

Nova and I are locktown for poll option

[112]

Like "Thunal is scum because she is making detailed posts" is not a read that makes sense to me, as someone who's seen the way Thunal towns.

the posts feel like fluff was my point, no need to skew fact

[MacDougall]

Just starting page 6 (now I know how it feels to have to catch up jfc)

112 - Hadn't posted yet but I've got them null based on the realtime
Alison - Probably just town
BoKnows - Town through Alison
Chuck - Hadn't posted
falcon45ca - Town that should probably just sheep people
Grand Scheme - Hadn't posted
Joe Who? - Hadn't posted
Kylemii - One post town read
KZA - Lean mafia
Made - Hadn't posted
MartinG99 - Hadn't posted
NIK - Lean mafia
novaselineever - Hadn't posted
nutella - Slightly townie
Poison - Different to Tutuu
polypies73 - Fairly townie
Sabie12 - Hadn't posted
sigurd - Null on realtime but hadn't posted
Sloonei - Null
Stupid Sexy Flanders - Town
Thunal33 - Lean mafia
Thundercat - Null
Towny McTownface - Hadn't posted
tutuu - I kinda wanna protect her, I think she might be town

[MacDougall]

thunal is a she, and as far as I can tell the things you're identifying about thunal as scummy are just part of her town range

The same can be said of the things you're town reading her for being in her scumrange though.

[112]

oh and both NIK and KZA can easily be mafia, but I have Falc and Flanders as strong town having played many (many) games with both of them.

[Thunal33]

Like "Thunal is scum because she is making detailed posts" is not a read that makes sense to me, as someone who's seen the way Thunal towns.

It doesn't, but 112's read feels like mostly a gut read to me and I can't really pick that apart. I will say that I play town D1 by asking questions/generating info and then voicing takes once I get them.

[Alison]

thunal is a she, and as far as I can tell the things you're identifying about thunal as scummy are just part of her town range

The same can be said of the things you're town reading her for being in her scumrange though.

Yeah, and I'm not townreading her for that, I'm townreading her because her tone is very strong. The level of detail in her posts is NAI.

I'm not seeing where Thunal is fluffing overly, especially since I've posted virtually the same thought as she did seconds apart lol.

[MacDougall]

Like "Thunal is scum because she is making detailed posts" is not a read that makes sense to me, as someone who's seen the way Thunal towns.

It doesn't, but 112's read feels like mostly a gut read to me and I can't really pick that apart. I will say that I play town D1 by asking questions/generating info and then voicing takes once I get them.

If I didn't have meta that says "Mac you scumread Thunal in every game" I would be pushing you as my top scum here.