Shadow Corridors Mafia [GAME OVER]

[Thunal33]

Just starting page 6 (now I know how it feels to have to catch up jfc)

falcon45ca - Town that should probably just sheep people
Poison - Different to Tutuu

Explain these.

[MacDougall]

thunal is a she, and as far as I can tell the things you're identifying about thunal as scummy are just part of her town range

The same can be said of the things you're town reading her for being in her scumrange though.

Yeah, and I'm not townreading her for that, I'm townreading her because her tone is very strong. The level of detail in her posts is NAI.

I'm not seeing where Thunal is fluffing overly, especially since I've posted virtually the same thought as she did seconds apart lol.

She spent ample time fixating on whether or not Tutuu is comfortable/silly without it saying anything at all about her alignment because the two games she was comparing to were both town games from Tutuu. If you have meta that says Tutuu can be serious or can be not serious, then what is the use of even trying to analyse her alignment based on her seriousness? Yet, she goes and makes analysis on that measure despite that. This is my issue.

[KZA]

oh and both NIK and KZA can easily be mafia, but I have Falc and Flanders as strong town having played many (many) games with both of them.

Hey buddy

[MacDougall]

Just starting page 6 (now I know how it feels to have to catch up jfc)

falcon45ca - Town that should probably just sheep people
Poison - Different to Tutuu

Explain these.

I think Falcon's best talent is looking townie. Beyond that, they probably are better off just finding townies they trust and sheeping their reads. That maybe harsh but I think Falcon (and Flanders to an extent) are very likely to make bad pushes.

Alison made a read that she felt there was one between Tutuu and Poison and only one and I tend to agree. I tend to think it's probably Poison at this point.

[112]

oh and both NIK and KZA can easily be mafia, but I have Falc and Flanders as strong town having played many (many) games with both of them.

Hey buddy

Hey pal

[112]

Just starting page 6 (now I know how it feels to have to catch up jfc)

falcon45ca - Town that should probably just sheep people
Poison - Different to Tutuu

Explain these.

I think Falcon's best talent is looking townie. Beyond that, they probably are better off just finding townies they trust and sheeping their reads. That maybe harsh but I think Falcon (and Flanders to an extent) are very likely to make bad pushes.

Alison made a read that she felt there was one between Tutuu and Poison and only one and I tend to agree. I tend to think it's probably Poison at this point.

lmao falc (and flanders to an extent) just demolished

[MacDougall]

KZA how are you reading the game right now?

[112]

tfw you can coast on maf cred for life

[sig]

People realize its day 0 right? Alot of people seem to have started voting on like page 4.

[MacDougall]

Just starting page 6 (now I know how it feels to have to catch up jfc)

falcon45ca - Town that should probably just sheep people
Poison - Different to Tutuu

Explain these.

I think Falcon's best talent is looking townie. Beyond that, they probably are better off just finding townies they trust and sheeping their reads. That maybe harsh but I think Falcon (and Flanders to an extent) are very likely to make bad pushes.

Alison made a read that she felt there was one between Tutuu and Poison and only one and I tend to agree. I tend to think it's probably Poison at this point.

lmao falc (and flanders to an extent) just demolished

The main issue is that I don't trust them to reevaluate and see it for what it is when they are pushing onto town. If they can prove me wrong on that then go nuts I say.

[112]

People realize its day 0 right? Alot of people seem to have started voting on like page 4.

turn maj on pls

[sig]

I'm just gonna sheep Mac this game

[MacDougall]

People realize its day 0 right? Alot of people seem to have started voting on like page 4.

Yeah that was pretty funny.

[sig]

Also I think the whole tuutuu isn't being silly "tuutuu" enough is dumb and NAI. I do think people trying to say she's suspicious for not being enough like herself are potentially mafia members trying to find an easy d1 scapegoat.

[MacDougall]

I demand a Tutuu brand fairy tale about me sweeping in to save her from the dark forces tho

[Thunal33]

thunal is a she, and as far as I can tell the things you're identifying about thunal as scummy are just part of her town range

The same can be said of the things you're town reading her for being in her scumrange though.

Yeah, and I'm not townreading her for that, I'm townreading her because her tone is very strong. The level of detail in her posts is NAI.

I'm not seeing where Thunal is fluffing overly, especially since I've posted virtually the same thought as she did seconds apart lol.

She spent ample time fixating on whether or not Tutuu is comfortable/silly without it saying anything at all about her alignment because the two games she was comparing to were both town games from Tutuu. If you have meta that says Tutuu can be serious or can be not serious, then what is the use of even trying to analyse her alignment based on her seriousness? Yet, she goes and makes analysis on that measure despite that. This is my issue.

Tutuu was the main focus of the thread and a lot of my posts were calling out reads based on Tutuu's level of comfort I felt were unjustified. Some people were saying Tutuu is always silly as town and I was correcting them by saying Tutuu was serious as town recently. The MafC game was a very different environment and I was wondering how much of Tutuu's behavior that game could be carried over to read her here and if she would act similarly to that game in a Syndicate game.

[Alison]

sig is probably town

[MacDougall]

BK town

o. are you?

[Thunal33]

Just starting page 6 (now I know how it feels to have to catch up jfc)

falcon45ca - Town that should probably just sheep people
Poison - Different to Tutuu

Explain these.

I think Falcon's best talent is looking townie. Beyond that, they probably are better off just finding townies they trust and sheeping their reads. That maybe harsh but I think Falcon (and Flanders to an extent) are very likely to make bad pushes.

Alison made a read that she felt there was one between Tutuu and Poison and only one and I tend to agree. I tend to think it's probably Poison at this point.

Me too, Poison did a few things that pinged me (scumread on Tutuu looks opportunistic, lots of 3p hunting and even made 3p reads).

[MacDougall]

thunal is a she, and as far as I can tell the things you're identifying about thunal as scummy are just part of her town range

The same can be said of the things you're town reading her for being in her scumrange though.

Yeah, and I'm not townreading her for that, I'm townreading her because her tone is very strong. The level of detail in her posts is NAI.

I'm not seeing where Thunal is fluffing overly, especially since I've posted virtually the same thought as she did seconds apart lol.

She spent ample time fixating on whether or not Tutuu is comfortable/silly without it saying anything at all about her alignment because the two games she was comparing to were both town games from Tutuu. If you have meta that says Tutuu can be serious or can be not serious, then what is the use of even trying to analyse her alignment based on her seriousness? Yet, she goes and makes analysis on that measure despite that. This is my issue.

Tutuu was the main focus of the thread and a lot of my posts were calling out reads based on Tutuu's level of comfort I felt were unjustified. Some people were saying Tutuu is always silly as town and I was correcting them by saying Tutuu was serious as town recently. The MafC game was a very different environment and I was wondering how much of Tutuu's behavior that game could be carried over to read her here and if she would act similarly to that game in a Syndicate game.

As opposed to just making the observation that Tutuu is serious sometimes as town as evidenced by the game you just played, providing said info to the thread and then moving on?

[sig]

[VOTE: Poison] aubergine

Be back in a bit, going to nap

but d1 haven't started yet.

You didn't seem to care when I voted tutuu earlier.

yea I'm scared you'd lynch me d0.

there's a lynch d0?!?!?

Stop it with the derp clearing.

I don't know what d0 means?

This hurts my head. But, I'll throw a town lean to Bonnie's. Mafia leam to stupid and null for poison.

[Thunal33]

Also I think the whole tuutuu isn't being silly "tuutuu" enough is dumb and NAI. I do think people trying to say she's suspicious for not being enough like herself are potentially mafia members trying to find an easy d1 scapegoat.

Could you name names? Who specifically do you think was trying to find an easy D1 scapegoat?

[Alison]

Grand Scheme is literally open wolfing in front of everyone's faces.

i dont see it

Says they want to see the tutuu conflict firsthand, but no followup or evidence they actually went back and read it. Is asked for thoughts, lays down two townreads on consensus-townread players. You ask people to sheep you on Sloonei, and they agree immediately, in a way that makes it clear it's "not their fault" if Sloonei flips green. Follows by straight-up giving advice to a mafia role on optimal play. I see this as hostile 3P trying to help the mafia coordinate by giving advice to the Obliterator.

bumping for visibility

[sig]

sig is probably town

Why?

[MacDougall]

Slow down or I'll never catch up

[MacDougall]

I don't see KZA as being particularly town, Flanders.

Its been a while since ive played with KZA but this is nothing new
Hes almost playing too serious for day 1 imo
Been a while tho.

What is "nothing new" if he's "playing too serious"?

nothing new as in not being too towny?
playing too serious: he seems like a new KZA

A new Kza eh. Hrrrmm.
Feels kinda gross.

Kza posting early in the game is what made me want to town lean him despite his eager pocketing.

He did promise to tunnel all us cdc'ers so I'm just gonna give him a slight scum lean now because I think you're teammates.

NIK and KZA is actually kinda my pet theory right now so I apologise for what I said about you earlier here have a cookie.

[Thunal33]

thunal is a she, and as far as I can tell the things you're identifying about thunal as scummy are just part of her town range

The same can be said of the things you're town reading her for being in her scumrange though.

Yeah, and I'm not townreading her for that, I'm townreading her because her tone is very strong. The level of detail in her posts is NAI.

I'm not seeing where Thunal is fluffing overly, especially since I've posted virtually the same thought as she did seconds apart lol.

She spent ample time fixating on whether or not Tutuu is comfortable/silly without it saying anything at all about her alignment because the two games she was comparing to were both town games from Tutuu. If you have meta that says Tutuu can be serious or can be not serious, then what is the use of even trying to analyse her alignment based on her seriousness? Yet, she goes and makes analysis on that measure despite that. This is my issue.

Tutuu was the main focus of the thread and a lot of my posts were calling out reads based on Tutuu's level of comfort I felt were unjustified. Some people were saying Tutuu is always silly as town and I was correcting them by saying Tutuu was serious as town recently. The MafC game was a very different environment and I was wondering how much of Tutuu's behavior that game could be carried over to read her here and if she would act similarly to that game in a Syndicate game.

As opposed to just making the observation that Tutuu is serious sometimes as town as evidenced by the game you just played, providing said info to the thread and then moving on?

People didn't seem to be caring that Tutuu's been serious before as town so I was kind of repeating myself to influence others to back off their reads. I don't see how doing what you suggested is any townier or better.

[MacDougall]

thunal is a she, and as far as I can tell the things you're identifying about thunal as scummy are just part of her town range

The same can be said of the things you're town reading her for being in her scumrange though.

Yeah, and I'm not townreading her for that, I'm townreading her because her tone is very strong. The level of detail in her posts is NAI.

I'm not seeing where Thunal is fluffing overly, especially since I've posted virtually the same thought as she did seconds apart lol.

She spent ample time fixating on whether or not Tutuu is comfortable/silly without it saying anything at all about her alignment because the two games she was comparing to were both town games from Tutuu. If you have meta that says Tutuu can be serious or can be not serious, then what is the use of even trying to analyse her alignment based on her seriousness? Yet, she goes and makes analysis on that measure despite that. This is my issue.

Tutuu was the main focus of the thread and a lot of my posts were calling out reads based on Tutuu's level of comfort I felt were unjustified. Some people were saying Tutuu is always silly as town and I was correcting them by saying Tutuu was serious as town recently. The MafC game was a very different environment and I was wondering how much of Tutuu's behavior that game could be carried over to read her here and if she would act similarly to that game in a Syndicate game.

As opposed to just making the observation that Tutuu is serious sometimes as town as evidenced by the game you just played, providing said info to the thread and then moving on?

People didn't seem to be caring that Tutuu's been serious before as town so I was kind of repeating myself to influence others to back off their reads. I don't see how doing what you suggested is any townier or better.

So you are saying that your goal was to get people to back off their Tutuu reads?

[KZA]

KZA how are you reading the game right now?

Lazily, the game isn't really firing yet

I have BoKnows, Falcon, Thrunal, Allison as my townie pile

Personally I just want Tutuu to have some room to breathe and for everyone to show up

[MacDougall]

KZA how are you reading the game right now?

Lazily, the game isn't really firing yet

I have BoKnows, Falcon, Thrunal, Allison as my townie pile

Personally I just want Tutuu to have some room to breathe and for everyone to show up

What would the game firing look like to you?

[MacDougall]

It is not gross, and it was a silly/friendly thing to say

I do not have high hopes that my alignment, whatever that alignment may be, will win this game, after seeing the posts written in the thread so far...

wut

yeah...

[MacDougall]

It is not gross, and it was a silly/friendly thing to say

I do not have high hopes that my alignment, whatever that alignment may be, will win this game, after seeing the posts written in the thread so far...

Ohhhghh this is interesting if you are 3p don't die.

Poison is mafia and Tutuu is in fact a 3p. Got it.

[Poison]

Clearly 17 pages to catch up to. At 5 am

[Poison]

It is not gross, and it was a silly/friendly thing to say

I do not have high hopes that my alignment, whatever that alignment may be, will win this game, after seeing the posts written in the thread so far...

Ohhhghh this is interesting if you are 3p don't die.

Poison is mafia and Tutuu is in fact a 3p. Got it.

Lol

[Thunal33]

The same can be said of the things you're town reading her for being in her scumrange though.

Yeah, and I'm not townreading her for that, I'm townreading her because her tone is very strong. The level of detail in her posts is NAI.

I'm not seeing where Thunal is fluffing overly, especially since I've posted virtually the same thought as she did seconds apart lol.

She spent ample time fixating on whether or not Tutuu is comfortable/silly without it saying anything at all about her alignment because the two games she was comparing to were both town games from Tutuu. If you have meta that says Tutuu can be serious or can be not serious, then what is the use of even trying to analyse her alignment based on her seriousness? Yet, she goes and makes analysis on that measure despite that. This is my issue.

Tutuu was the main focus of the thread and a lot of my posts were calling out reads based on Tutuu's level of comfort I felt were unjustified. Some people were saying Tutuu is always silly as town and I was correcting them by saying Tutuu was serious as town recently. The MafC game was a very different environment and I was wondering how much of Tutuu's behavior that game could be carried over to read her here and if she would act similarly to that game in a Syndicate game.

As opposed to just making the observation that Tutuu is serious sometimes as town as evidenced by the game you just played, providing said info to the thread and then moving on?

People didn't seem to be caring that Tutuu's been serious before as town so I was kind of repeating myself to influence others to back off their reads. I don't see how doing what you suggested is any townier or better.

So you are saying that your goal was to get people to back off their Tutuu reads?

That was one of my goals, and early on I was also trying to check whether the "less silly/Tutuu" read was unjustified for myself and I concluded it was.

[Poison]

Just starting page 6 (now I know how it feels to have to catch up jfc)

falcon45ca - Town that should probably just sheep people
Poison - Different to Tutuu

Explain these.

I think Falcon's best talent is looking townie. Beyond that, they probably are better off just finding townies they trust and sheeping their reads. That maybe harsh but I think Falcon (and Flanders to an extent) are very likely to make bad pushes.

Alison made a read that she felt there was one between Tutuu and Poison and only one and I tend to agree. I tend to think it's probably Poison at this point.

Me too, Poison did a few things that pinged me (scumread on Tutuu looks opportunistic, lots of 3p hunting and even made 3p reads).

Yes with that opportunity, I win the game cause I'm a jester!

[MacDougall]

I do think Tutuu bringing up the Mastermind-Obliterator role in her second post is unusual but I'm not sure if that's scummy. Are there other reasons people are scumreading her?

I don't have enough experience with Tutuu to say whether her vibe is different in a scummy way. I've seen two town games of hers and she vibed very differently in those two games so I'm not seeing it as a huge surprise she has a different style and level of comfort again. I know she was less comfortable in the MafC game and that's why she vibed so differently early on. This game feels in between her Grasslands game and the Skyrim game on MafC in level of comfort.

Come to think of it, that could be suspicious because the Grasslands game is probably a more representative baseline for this game and the fact she feels less comfortable/joking than that baseline might be AI.

Your goal was to get people to back off and you do so by posting hedges like this?

[Poison]

So all these pages are about me and I should skip it or is there actual scum hunting island I should read?

[MacDougall]

Thunal and Poison, do you have reads on one another?

[MacDougall]

So all these pages are about me and I should skip it or is there actual scum hunting island I should read?

Huh?

[MacDougall]

Jesus this is starting to have way too many sexual innuendos

Better kiss that Bible tonight falc.

Mine were all intentional. Not sure if poison is town or not, but I think she's hot.

ugh can we not do this

On the flipside, if anyone wants to call me hot I welcome it. Please call me hot.

[Poison]

Thunal and Poison, do you have reads on one another?

Thunal probably town.

[Thunal33]

Grand Scheme is literally open wolfing in front of everyone's faces.

i dont see it

Says they want to see the tutuu conflict firsthand, but no followup or evidence they actually went back and read it. Is asked for thoughts, lays down two townreads on consensus-townread players. You ask people to sheep you on Sloonei, and they agree immediately, in a way that makes it clear it's "not their fault" if Sloonei flips green. Follows by straight-up giving advice to a mafia role on optimal play. I see this as hostile 3P trying to help the mafia coordinate by giving advice to the Obliterator.

bumping for visibility

Grand Scheme's Mastermind-Obliterator stuff was really bizarre. Looking at the OP there's no reason to think they know the mafia's identity and their treatment of that role could be TMI. Why hostile 3P? I think if anything it points to Grand Scheme being the obliterator himself.

[Thunal33]

Thunal and Poison, do you have reads on one another?

Yes, I scumread Poison.

[MacDougall]

what's the narrative though? is it that flanders' accusations against her are shit and he's whining like a baby? I don't get it, what's the point of the story

Her defense is rather shaky eh.
I didn't like her first post, called her out, didn't like her next post because of a perspective slip and she's kinda spiraled from there.

The insult posts are never townie this early on. I've been frustrated town and resorted to name calling and insult posts leading up to nf, but I see her level of flail as very scum indicative for this stage of the game.

Ehhhh you're wrong but whatever.

[Poison]

Jesus this is starting to have way too many sexual innuendos

Better kiss that Bible tonight falc.

Mine were all intentional. Not sure if poison is town or not, but I think she's hot.

ugh can we not do this

On the flipside, if anyone wants to call me hot I welcome it. Please call me hot.

No u not if you scum read me. Do I look like a scum to you look at me :

Spoiler: show

OwO

[MacDougall]

Thunal and Poison, do you have reads on one another?

Thunal probably town.

Thunal and Poison, do you have reads on one another?

Yes, I scumread Poison.

I'm gonna put this in a frame and look at it for a while.

[Poison]

Thunal and Poison, do you have reads on one another?

Yes, I scumread Poison.

Lol

[Alison]

Grand Scheme is literally open wolfing in front of everyone's faces.

i dont see it

Says they want to see the tutuu conflict firsthand, but no followup or evidence they actually went back and read it. Is asked for thoughts, lays down two townreads on consensus-townread players. You ask people to sheep you on Sloonei, and they agree immediately, in a way that makes it clear it's "not their fault" if Sloonei flips green. Follows by straight-up giving advice to a mafia role on optimal play. I see this as hostile 3P trying to help the mafia coordinate by giving advice to the Obliterator.

bumping for visibility

Grand Scheme's Mastermind-Obliterator stuff was really bizarre. Looking at the OP there's no reason to think they know the mafia's identity and their treatment of that role could be TMI. Why hostile 3P? I think if anything it points to Grand Scheme being the obliterator himself.

If he's the Obliterator he just does his own thing without bringing up optimal Obliterator play in the thread. If he's mafia he speaks to the Obliterator privately through BTSC. If he's hostile 3P and has an idea for how the Obliterator should be playing, he can post it in the thread and let the Obliterator see. The point is, there's no reason that a townie would ever have an idea about how mafia can optimize their strategy, and post it in the thread to help them out.

[MacDougall]

Jesus this is starting to have way too many sexual innuendos

Better kiss that Bible tonight falc.

Mine were all intentional. Not sure if poison is town or not, but I think she's hot.

ugh can we not do this

On the flipside, if anyone wants to call me hot I welcome it. Please call me hot.

No u not if you scum read me. Do I look like a scum to you look at me :

Spoiler: show

OwO

I'm too sober