The Hobbit Mafia: Day 12

[Epignosis]

Voting Records. I'm not going to let you drag me across the coals because I've been successful in helping to vote off two baddies. I've made a list to see who has similar success. Two players are 3/3.

People That Voted MP (Baddie) on Day 1:
Turnip Head (18), Hedgeowl (19), juliets (20), Captain Bunny Killer (21), kneel4justice (23), Epignosis (24) 25%

People That Voted FZ on Day 2:
kneel4justice (7), Mongoose (10), Hedgeowl (11), Bullzeye (12), DFaraday (21), Spacedaisy (23), Leamiteo (24), DisgruntledPorcupine (25), reywaS

People that Voted Eloh on Day 3:
Epignosis (3), Boogs (4), Dom (5), Mongoose (10), juliets (11), kneel4justice (13), Hedgeowl (15), Metalmarsh89 (16), DFaraday (18), Turnip Head

Interestingly, Hedgeowl is 3/3. Kneel4Justice is also 3/3.

Players that are 2/3 are: Epignosis, TurnipHead, Juliets, DFaraday, myself. That's a lot of people.

False.

I'm 3/3. For whom did I vote Day 2?

[Mongoose]

Notice I am not interpreting the data. I am just presenting it and letting you make your own conclusions.

linki - I was going off of successful lynches.

[Epignosis]

Voting Records. I'm not going to let you drag me across the coals because I've been successful in helping to vote off two baddies.

The thing is, no one is voting for you because you've helped lynch goblins.

[fingersplints]

I feel like the same points are being reiterated

[Epignosis]

I feel like the same points are being reiterated

Then...raise new ones?

[Epignosis]

Okay, you're right. Lots of the same old twaddle.

Here's a novel bit then.

fingersplints filled an "unfilled role" in this game.

The Townie Goblins have 5 roles and the Mostly-Dead Goblins have 4.

I think fingersplints joined up as the fifth Townie Goblin.

[Snow Dog]

Okay, you're right. Lots of the same old twaddle.

Here's a novel bit then.

fingersplints filled an "unfilled role" in this game.

The Townie Goblins have 5 roles and the Mostly-Dead Goblins have 4.

I think fingersplints joined up as the fifth Townie Goblin.

oooooooooooh.....interesting point.

[reywaS]

The only thing this vote proves is that [Mongoose] is probably not on FZ's team, but I think she is a baddie nevertheless.

I think [Mongoose] is on the other bad team, or perhaps Smaug.

I've been saying I think Mongoose is Goblin Town Goblins, but no one will respond to my requests to give her a read and comment on my case. Needless to say, this does not make me feel better about her.

She might be Smaug or Indie, but I think the refusal of literally all players to look closely at her indicates that at least a few are on her team.

I don't think she can be a Moria Goblin because the timing of her vote for FZ doesn't make sense if she is.

K4J: [Mongoose is] Almost certainly Goblin Town.

Mongoose's votes for both FZ and Elohcin were timed wrong for her to be on their team unless she actually wanted them dead. I've pointed this out a number of times.

I honestly don't know how much clearer I could make this, or why I have to keep saying it over and over again.

[reywaS]

maybe say it one more time.

[thellama73]

I have a 0/3 voting record and am civ, so I don't take the fact that people have been successful in finding baddies as proof of their innocence, especially in a two-mafia game.

[Mongoose]

I have a 0/3 voting record and am civ, so I don't take the fact that people have been successful in finding baddies as proof of their innocence, especially in a two-mafia game.

Well I don't take the fact that people (who have been so far) inept infinding baddies as proof of their innocence, especially in a two-mafia game

It cuts both ways.

[Mongoose]

Voting Records. I'm not going to let you drag me across the coals because I've been successful in helping to vote off two baddies.

The thing is, no one is voting for you because you've helped lynch goblins.

I'm not so sure about that. Maybe with the people that have already voted, sure. But a ton of people still need to vote and that is the audience I really want to speak to anyway.

[Marmot]

Sorry rey, but I'm interested in taking out an entire team on Days 1-4.

What are you sorry about? Not responding to me? I thought this meant that you were voting for me, but I looked and nope. You voted for Mongoose.

So, what are you saying here? That now you don't think that I'm the last member of that team?

What I say and what I think may not be congruous.

Doesn't that make you bad?

[Epignosis]

Sorry rey, but I'm interested in taking out an entire team on Days 1-4.

What are you sorry about? Not responding to me? I thought this meant that you were voting for me, but I looked and nope. You voted for Mongoose.

So, what are you saying here? That now you don't think that I'm the last member of that team?

What I say and what I think may not be congruous.

Doesn't that make you bad?

If I were bad, most of you would be dead by now.

[Epignosis]

I'd probably keep you alive though.

[Marmot]

Okay, you're right. Lots of the same old twaddle.

Here's a novel bit then.

fingersplints filled an "unfilled role" in this game.

The Townie Goblins have 5 roles and the Mostly-Dead Goblins have 4.

I think fingersplints joined up as the fifth Townie Goblin.

That would be very convenient. I was preparing to vote for Mongoose too, without much conviction.

Linki: thanks

[kneel4justice]

Voting Records. I'm not going to let you drag me across the coals because I've been successful in helping to vote off two baddies. I've made a list to see who has similar success. Two players are 3/3.

People That Voted MP (Baddie) on Day 1:
Turnip Head (18), Hedgeowl (19), juliets (20), Captain Bunny Killer (21), kneel4justice (23), Epignosis (24) 25%

People That Voted FZ on Day 2:
kneel4justice (7), Mongoose (10), Hedgeowl (11), Bullzeye (12), DFaraday (21), Spacedaisy (23), Leamiteo (24), DisgruntledPorcupine (25), reywaS

People that Voted Eloh on Day 3:
Epignosis (3), Boogs (4), Dom (5), Mongoose (10), juliets (11), kneel4justice (13), Hedgeowl (15), Metalmarsh89 (16), DFaraday (18), Turnip Head

Interestingly, Hedgeowl is 3/3. Kneel4Justice is also 3/3.

Players that are 2/3 are: Epignosis, TurnipHead, Juliets, DFaraday, myself. That's a lot of people.

I'm mad proud of my voting record, IDC!

[kneel4justice]

Sorry rey, but I'm interested in taking out an entire team on Days 1-4.

What are you sorry about? Not responding to me? I thought this meant that you were voting for me, but I looked and nope. You voted for Mongoose.

So, what are you saying here? That now you don't think that I'm the last member of that team?

I I'mse Ept Ept cay Epiga onost y Eping, Epioon I'm ose I'm ter agot nonotheemsere I su. n I'm I'm yopigonopiout ser Epiot I'm non. n. I'm ooptt y themser seeee Mon cain tt bu. y cagothere t Epin yoosa y Epigagan. I'm set se see otingaserem y se be ngopiote yonsut them a osee anse Eptioutt cayout aingagayour ay ainsayou. on caigot Epigoon ouree tt buret cain I'm ot as ngaiosanosut Mong, ca su. cayot I'msaionseem ou. I'm ayot sethe yopin. casu. ase bee nou. n. bee cay Moose su. nou. ngagaigonot ot

You hardly post when you can type normally. Get insanified though and it seems you got plenty to say...

This is a good point.
BWT is trying pretty hard to speak. I learned it's kind of pointless. I barely spoke while being insanified.

[Boogs]

Sorry rey, but I'm interested in taking out an entire team on Days 1-4.

What are you sorry about? Not responding to me? I thought this meant that you were voting for me, but I looked and nope. You voted for Mongoose.

So, what are you saying here? That now you don't think that I'm the last member of that team?

I I'mse Ept Ept cay Epiga onost y Eping, Epioon I'm ose I'm ter agot nonotheemsere I su. n I'm I'm yopigonopiout ser Epiot I'm non. n. I'm ooptt y themser seeee Mon cain tt bu. y cagothere t Epin yoosa y Epigagan. I'm set se see otingaserem y se be ngopiote yonsut them a osee anse Eptioutt cayout aingagayour ay ainsayou. on caigot Epigoon ouree tt buret cain I'm ot as ngaiosanosut Mong, ca su. cayot I'msaionseem ou. I'm ayot sethe yopin. casu. ase bee nou. n. bee cay Moose su. nou. ngagaigonot ot

You hardly post when you can type normally. Get insanified though and it seems you got plenty to say...

This is a good point.
BWT is trying pretty hard to speak. I learned it's kind of pointless. I barely spoke while being insanified.

Yeah the plot thickens on BWT. I remember feeling a weird ping from him when he self voted Day 2 I think it was and he hasn't really said much. Now he's talking more as Insanified and I don't know if it's to try to save Mongoose from dying (I felt BWT was not trying to get his hands dirty earlier on his vote) or to just tell us he agrees with Epignosis... But it's worth keeping an eye on him also for me. As for my vote, I'm still feeling no different about SpaceDaisy or Mongoose being on the other Goblin team, so I'm going to cast my vote on Mongoose.
votes Mongoose

[Boogs]

Oh and I just noticed when I cast my vote and it refreshed that he voted Mongoose before my vote today... So that makes me wonder if it's distancing or not. Keeping that eye open.

[Dom]

No, I understand what she means that eliminating a team is bad. Most hosts I've seen award the vacated kill to the next team. That's bad practice in my opinion, but it's what happens. That creates a doubly powerful single team rather than stop kills from happening half the time.

What do you mean that she is completely wrong on the Mongoose suspicion?

I guess I see the point about the bad team... but they have to go eventually, right? I dunno.

she was wrong in that the suspicion is that she is on Goblin Town not Moria. Spacedaisy was talking as if the theory as Moria.

[Dom]

I am taking a Tony Awards break to vote for Mongoose.

[Epignosis]

I am disappointed.

[thellama73]

The following people haven't posted yet today:
A Person
Bullzeye
Captain Bunny Killer
DisgruntledPorcupine
juliets
Leamiteo
Lizzy

I assume one of them is dead. Of those listed, I believe juliets has been the most chatty in the past, so I am guessing it is her for now. Let's see if others check in.

[DFaraday]

The following people haven't posted yet today:
A Person
Bullzeye
Captain Bunny Killer
DisgruntledPorcupine
juliets
Leamiteo
Lizzy

I assume one of them is dead. Of those listed, I believe juliets has been the most chatty in the past, so I am guessing it is her for now. Let's see if others check in.

It would be nearly impossible to tell if DP is dead considering his post frequency. We've still got awhile to work that one out anyway.

And I'll just go ahead and *vote Mongoose* now. Her defense did nothing to convince me she's civvie.

[DisgruntledPorcupine]

I'm alive. Don't worry.

[Vompatti]

[Marmot]

I am voting Mongoose. Don't really have time to look elsewhere, so I'm trusting Epi on this one.

[nijuukyugou]

Third time's a charm, and I will be consistent - voting Mongoose.

[thellama73]

It's weird that we went from just me and blooper voting for Mongoose the last two days to a (so-far) unanimous vote for her today. Why did you all change your minds so suddenly?

[Epignosis]

I am voting Mongoose. Don't really have time to look elsewhere, so I'm trusting Epi on this one.

How are you trusting me?

[insertnamehere]

I am voting Mongoose. Don't really have time to look elsewhere, so I'm trusting Epi on this one.

How are you trusting me?

I'm voting Mongoose because I'd trust Epi with my life, my children, and my soul.

[Bullzeye]

Finally got a chance to catch up.

I hear you Boogs but it seems like this.
To possibly gain civvie cred you decided to pretend not to be able to speak or vote.

Who does this? Like, ever? It would be a terrible idea especially in a game with multiple baddie teams and in which participation is actively rewarded. There's no civ cred at all to be gained by pretending to be silenced and I don't get why someone would even think a player might try it.

I know it's easy to get caught up in the moment because 3 baddies have been lynched in a row. But if you think you are going to get a 4th one by voting me, you are going to be very sad to break the streak.

I'm not on either team. I missed the first vote, but I have a 100% track record of voting for baddies. How many of you can say the same? I feel like I am being penalized for trying to hunt for baddies and also for voting for baddies. If you can back up for just a second and see the forest for the trees, you can see how fruitless (and tragicomic!) it is to vote for someone who has done so much for the civ cause.

If anyone has any questions or concerns that you would like me to address, I will be happy to do so.

There's more than one baddie team, so it doesn't really mean much to defend yourself by saying you've only ever voted for baddies. Even so, you could still have been their teammate and voted for all of them. Plenty of people would do in that situation.

Solet me play devil's advocate here...

You think she is the sole remaining member of the team we have been decimating. If you are correct, then why is it to our benefit to eliminate them? At least while there are two teams, there is the chance they could kill each other. Once we eliminate a team, doesn't that mean the nightly kill falls solely to one team? Or is Rusti doing it differently this game?

If she's the last member of a baddie team (or anyone is) why would we leave her alive to keep killing us off? The other baddies aren't gonna waste their kill someone if the prevailing theory in the thread is that that person is bad, because that means one less lynch they get to avoid. If you really think someone is a baddie, the kill passing on shouldn't matter. It will have to eventually anyway.

The following people haven't posted yet today:
A Person
Bullzeye
Captain Bunny Killer
DisgruntledPorcupine
juliets
Leamiteo
Lizzy

I assume one of them is dead. Of those listed, I believe juliets has been the most chatty in the past, so I am guessing it is her for now. Let's see if others check in.

I may not be the sharpest bulb in the drawer but I think I'd have noticed if I were dead!

[fingersplints]

Okay, you're right. Lots of the same old twaddle.

Here's a novel bit then.

fingersplints filled an "unfilled role" in this game.

The Townie Goblins have 5 roles and the Mostly-Dead Goblins have 4.

I think fingersplints joined up as the fifth Townie Goblin.

Nice theory. Shame it's wrong

We still have a couple people who haven't checked in this day period, yes?

[thellama73]

We still have a couple people who haven't checked in this day period, yes?

These people, to be exact:
A Person
Captain Bunny Killer
juliets
Leamiteo
Lizzy

[fingersplints]

great. thanks I thought we could cross some off the list but I'm on my phone and it's kind of a pain to check myself

[fingersplints]

I am taking a Tony Awards break to vote for Mongoose.

I'm sad I missed this.

[kneel4justice]

I voted for Mongoose.
I feel her interaction with Eloh was really weird, I don't see how it made sense for her to do stick her head out if she is on the opposing scum team. I still wonder if she is on Eloh's, but the part where she tried to come across as a civvie by stating that she had a 100% track record voting for baddies made me open to the idea that she was on the opposing team. I don't think civvies would use that argument in the way that she did.

[kneel4justice]

great. thanks I thought we could cross some off the list but I'm on my phone and it's kind of a pain to check myself

Splints, you were the one to say I was not like the last game I was in (for the part I was civvie) and low-key defended FZ.
What happened to your suspicion of me, once FZ was proven bad, it seemed to have dropped?

[Boogs]

Um quick question.... Vompattii voted for me with no explanation?? Confused by you

[A Person]

deadness status: not

[nijuukyugou]

I am voting Mongoose. Don't really have time to look elsewhere, so I'm trusting Epi on this one.

How are you trusting me?

I'm voting Mongoose because I'd trust Epi with my life, my children, and my soul.

May God have mercy on it.

[Mongoose]

Y'all this is going to be so tragicomic.

I was going to hold onto my vote, but with 10 of you, I'll go ahead and vote now since I have a job interview later to prepare for.

Imma vote Boogs with my boo Vomps for solidarity. I nearly voted Kitty, but not because he was 3/3. I coulda voted any number of you squirrely sorts honestly; this is pretty token at this point.

Sad ferret mongoose is sad. I done tried.



@ Host - Very impressive game, Russti!

[kneel4justice]

Y'all this is going to be so tragicomic.

I was going to hold onto my vote, but with 10 of you, I'll go ahead and vote now since I have a job interview later to prepare for.

Imma vote Boogs with my boo Vomps for solidarity. I nearly voted Kitty, but not because he was 3/3. I coulda voted any number of you squirrely sorts honestly; this is pretty token at this point.

Sad ferret mongoose is sad. I done tried.



@ Host - Very impressive game, Russti!

Um, ok?

[>SpaghettiEverywhere]

Since this is the only time ill be able to post today i think, I'm going to go ahead and vote vompatti again.

[Russtifinko]

@ Host - Very impressive game, Russti!

Thanks!

[Spacedaisy]

I was under the impression that was what Robert was saying. That he believes mongoose to be on the team we have been killing. Sorry I included you in that llama.
I think she is bad, but I think she was on Alex's team. Whatever. I will cast my vote there to see what turns up.

[fingersplints]

great. thanks I thought we could cross some off the list but I'm on my phone and it's kind of a pain to check myself

Splints, you were the one to say I was not like the last game I was in (for the part I was civvie) and low-key defended FZ.
What happened to your suspicion of me, once FZ was proven bad, it seemed to have dropped?

I dont think i said you defended FZ quiet the opposite. I thought you were deliberately misreading FZ and that you of all people know her better. Since FZ turned up bad it made me reconsider that. You are not in the clear for me, but you were insanified so I couldn't really question you. You had quite a lot of votes that day... I don't seem to be the only one who has backed off you some

[Vompatti]

Um quick question.... Vompattii voted for me with no explanation?? Confused by you

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[A Person]

not sure if insanified or just vomps