Shadow Corridors Mafia [GAME OVER]

[nutella]

I want more out of nova but the chunk of posts he made when he first entered the thread were decently towny for him imo in the moment, but yeah he needs to contribute more to clear the town bar

[Thundercat]

Nova was fuckin deadly as Ned Flanders in the Simpson's game.

I see they're playing. Their iso is just awful, doesn't read like towny Ned-Nova at all.

How many Neds are there?

[Stupid Sexy Flanders]

Nova was fuckin deadly as Ned Flanders in the Simpson's game.

I see they're playing. Their iso is just awful, doesn't read like towny Ned-Nova at all.

Nova was Hugh

Sorry, right. Thats what I meant.
Mac was Ned

My mistake. Nova was awesome as Hugh Jass

[Stupid Sexy Flanders]

Nova was fuckin deadly as Ned Flanders in the Simpson's game.

I see they're playing. Their iso is just awful, doesn't read like towny Ned-Nova at all.

How many Neds are there?

3 now, because I'm still drunk.

So why would almost your whole scum list bus one of their own when one of their wolf bros is the counterwagon?

Your list makes no fucking sense me.

[MacDougall]

Yes town Nova is a beast. He's obvscum here.

[Master Radishes]

Nova was fuckin deadly as Ned Flanders in the Simpson's game.

I see they're playing. Their iso is just awful, doesn't read like towny Ned-Nova at all.

Wasn't Kyle in Simpsons and also pretty deadly?

I think we still have a pretty wide PoE here tbh.

[Master Radishes]

@MrRadishes: Please explain to me your Falcon = town read to me. My day 0 snap-read was that he’s a wolf and comments like #2170 that throw subtle shade on people don’t make me feel any better.

Meta. I'm not locking it in because on the surface his scum game is similar, but his constant borderline tinfoily questioning of everything big and small combined with breezy banter is likely just town falc. The fact others who know him say the same is encouraging.

[Thundercat]

Nova was fuckin deadly as Ned Flanders in the Simpson's game.

I see they're playing. Their iso is just awful, doesn't read like towny Ned-Nova at all.

How many Neds are there?

3 now, because I'm still drunk.

So why would almost your whole scum list bus one of their own when one of their wolf bros is the counterwagon?

Your list makes no fucking sense me.

1) I'm trying to stir up discussion. MR is right, the thread's slowed down.

2) There's a number of players in the game I had no recollection of. I did the rainbow exercise in an effort make reads on said players.

3) Again, this is not who the exact construction of what I think the scum team is. The red is a list of players who I'd vote today for doing scummy things.

[Made]

Here’s a fun question I think that could lead to useful discussion just in case EOD doesn’t go well:

Who is Deep Wolf?
My money is on Mac

[MacDougall]

Here’s a fun question I think that could lead to useful discussion just in case EOD doesn’t go well:

Who is Deep Wolf?
My money is on Mac

What's the value of off hand tinfoil like this? Are you going to push me?

[Made]

Here’s a fun question I think that could lead to useful discussion just in case EOD doesn’t go well:

Who is Deep Wolf?
My money is on Mac

Note the nuance baked into this question y’all. I’m not asking who y’all think is the least trustworthy of whoever your towncore is. Im asking of your towncore, who looks worst after a hypothetically bad EOD?

[Alison]

Here’s a fun question I think that could lead to useful discussion just in case EOD doesn’t go well:

Who is Deep Wolf?
My money is on Mac

Note the nuance baked into this question y’all. I’m not asking who y’all think is the least trustworthy of whoever your towncore is. Im asking of your towncore, who looks worst after a hypothetically bad EOD?

Wouldn't that depend on the EOD itself? Like who got exed?

[Made]

Here’s a fun question I think that could lead to useful discussion just in case EOD doesn’t go well:

Who is Deep Wolf?
My money is on Mac

Note the nuance baked into this question y’all. I’m not asking who y’all think is the least trustworthy of whoever your towncore is. Im asking of your towncore, who looks worst after a hypothetically bad EOD?

Wouldn't that depend on the EOD itself? Like who got exed?

Yup! Admittedly this is a bit of apeshit question, but potentially fun, no?

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Towny McTownface? More like Stupid McStupidface amirite

They're Nanook btw, ditched the sock-puppet.

Am I the only one that used a sockpuppet?

I was under the impression that sock puppets were going to be the default, but now I just feel kinda silly

hi LC

Actually it’s me

Sprit said I could ditch the sockpuppet account and just use my normal one, so that’s what I’m doing. Feels kind of silly when there’s only three other sock puppets in the game lmao

Oh, that's useful info, thank you.


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Nanookthegreatandfearsome? More like Nanookthestupidandstupid.

WOW fuckin rude man

[MacDougall]

Here’s a fun question I think that could lead to useful discussion just in case EOD doesn’t go well:

Who is Deep Wolf?
My money is on Mac

Note the nuance baked into this question y’all. I’m not asking who y’all think is the least trustworthy of whoever your towncore is. Im asking of your towncore, who looks worst after a hypothetically bad EOD?

Wouldn't that depend on the EOD itself? Like who got exed?

Yup! Admittedly this is a bit of apeshit question, but potentially fun, no?

No it's potentially bad for the threadstate given I am town.

[MacDougall]

If I am playing the way I am playing I am a townsiding mafia. The optimal thing to do is turn on me in the late game if I don't manage to get myself cleared somehow strongly. Let me townside and kill my team off then kill me. There's no pro town agenda behind tinfoiling me at this juncture.

[sabie12]

So I guess I'm going to vote NIK. They say they always bus as scum and they voted for jack who was scum. In this game though with the uncertainity about whether scum knows thier teammates the idea that they would have bussed wouldn't make sense as a defense.

[VOTE: NIK] aubergine

[sig]

I'm here, got really busy yesterday at work then just crashed so oops.

[sig]

I'd really not lock clear Made or everyone in the Jack wagon. Especially since as sabie pointed out they may not know each other

[sig]

If I am playing the way I am playing I am a townsiding mafia. The optimal thing to do is turn on me in the late game if I don't manage to get myself cleared somehow strongly. Let me townside and kill my team off then kill me. There's no pro town agenda behind tinfoiling me at this juncture.

Tbf you've done this as mafia before.

[sig]

Re Made and the Obliterator, that isn't really a mafia role first off, I'd view it as more of an evil independent and we don't know the mechanics of the role. They could easily fake a soup to clear someone. Now that isn't likely but could happen

[sig]

Also for mafia secret chat my best guess is they're probably deciding game moves without outting themselves, meaning Jack would've probably been trying to save himself in the scum chat. So while it would've been more difficult I'm actually now thinking that the flip makes NIK look a bit better

[sig]

day phases

month in real time

That's nothing, I remember games back in the olden days that would last like 2-3 months.

[Alison]

Re Made and the Obliterator, that isn't really a mafia role first off, I'd view it as more of an evil independent and we don't know the mechanics of the role. They could easily fake a soup to clear someone. Now that isn't likely but could happen

Between the Obliterator stuff and the fact that they voted Jack, that gives them enough credibility that we can leave them alone for a bit. Re-eval if they drop off/don't do anything for a long time or if they don't get killed for too long, but I'm not remotely interested in exeing them today and probably tomorrow unless something changes drastically.

[sig]

How bout we just play normal mafia.

Not only does it suck but ummm multiple secret mafia roles that could so fuck things up, plus multiple third party roles that could fuck shit up, plus town powers. It's actually really dumb to try and mech solve it just takes one mafia member getting into an influencing position in thread or one weird power and town is messed up.

[Alison]

Also for mafia secret chat my best guess is they're probably deciding game moves without outting themselves, meaning Jack would've probably been trying to save himself in the scum chat. So while it would've been more difficult I'm actually now thinking that the flip makes NIK look a bit better

The problem with this line of logic is that if NIK is also a wolf like we suspect, there's nobody else that the wolves can push on legitimately without totally outing themselves.

[sig]

Re Made and the Obliterator, that isn't really a mafia role first off, I'd view it as more of an evil independent and we don't know the mechanics of the role. They could easily fake a soup to clear someone. Now that isn't likely but could happen

Between the Obliterator stuff and the fact that they voted Jack, that gives them enough credibility that we can leave them alone for a bit. Re-eval if they drop off/don't do anything for a long time or if they don't get killed for too long, but I'm not remotely interested in exeing them today and probably tomorrow unless something changes drastically.

Sure, I'd not be advocating a made lynch anytime soon. But, this isn't innocent child/cop check level of cleared.

[Alison]

Speaking of Made: can anyone show me where Made softed tracker?

[Master Radishes]

Random take I haven't taken the time to elocute properly: something about sig's pop ins feels like they come without agenda or due to discomfort. Town lean.

[MacDougall]

Agree

[sig]

Random take I haven't taken the time to elocute properly: something about sig's pop ins feels like they come without agenda or due to discomfort. Town lean.

I'll take it.

[sig]

But. Not macs since he's probably deep wolf mafia.

[Grand Scheme]

Re Made and the Obliterator, that isn't really a mafia role first off, I'd view it as more of an evil independent and we don't know the mechanics of the role. They could easily fake a soup to clear someone. Now that isn't likely but could happen

But they only win on the backs of the Mafia, which to me makes them the same from a town perspective.

Re Made and the Obliterator, that isn't really a mafia role first off, I'd view it as more of an evil independent and we don't know the mechanics of the role. They could easily fake a soup to clear someone. Now that isn't likely but could happen

Between the Obliterator stuff and the fact that they voted Jack, that gives them enough credibility that we can leave them alone for a bit. Re-eval if they drop off/don't do anything for a long time or if they don't get killed for too long, but I'm not remotely interested in exeing them today and probably tomorrow unless something changes drastically.

I haven't read the last 3 pages; we know the Obliterator voted Jack?

[sig]

I agree with MR/Radish here that today just seems meh. Alot of meta talk and what not which is great, but everyone came into the phase with a few people in mind and the direction hasn't shifted yet.

I guess this could also mean mafia aren't active or willing to throw a teammate under the bus, but more likely means we have 2 civs.

[sig]

I'd also think once Jack was close to being lynched he'd out himself in scum chat to try and get saved, so maybe we should take another look at the players who did the later swing on NIK.

[sig]

Re Made and the Obliterator, that isn't really a mafia role first off, I'd view it as more of an evil independent and we don't know the mechanics of the role. They could easily fake a soup to clear someone. Now that isn't likely but could happen

But they only win on the backs of the Mafia, which to me makes them the same from a town perspective.

Re Made and the Obliterator, that isn't really a mafia role first off, I'd view it as more of an evil independent and we don't know the mechanics of the role. They could easily fake a soup to clear someone. Now that isn't likely but could happen

Between the Obliterator stuff and the fact that they voted Jack, that gives them enough credibility that we can leave them alone for a bit. Re-eval if they drop off/don't do anything for a long time or if they don't get killed for too long, but I'm not remotely interested in exeing them today and probably tomorrow unless something changes drastically.

I haven't read the last 3 pages; we know the Obliterator voted Jack?

Okay true. Plus it sounds like once they're gone mafia aren't anonymous so we may actually want to keep them around for a bit.

Also she means Made.

[Made]

Speaking of Made: can anyone show me where Made softed tracker?

It's best we drop this line for now. We can come back this later, but the long story short is things are v messy rn.

[juliets]

sprityo here's an update iso link for nova.

Thanks Thundercat, @sprityo I have corrected this.

[falcon45ca]

Nova was fuckin deadly as Ned Flanders in the Simpson's game.

I see they're playing. Their iso is just awful, doesn't read like towny Ned-Nova at all.

I've been calling him out for awhile now, he's playing very different from the Simpsons game

[112]

It was at this point you realized that the Shadow Corridors were all a dream.

[Thunal33]

It bothers me that MR is the only person that thinks NIK could just be a townie in a new environment and is giving NIK way more of a chance than anyone else is. It feels like MR might have TMI about NIK being not mafia, so I'd actually vote MR over NIK right now (haven't completely caught up yet).

[112]

It bothers me that MR is the only person that thinks NIK could just be a townie in a new environment and is giving NIK way more of a chance than anyone else is. It feels like MR might have TMI about NIK being not mafia, so I'd actually vote MR over NIK right now (haven't completely caught up yet).

disagree

MR is the type who would state doubts as town

i totally believe this is a read he would have

and i'm sort of warming up to tp nik

[Thunal33]

NIK could be 3p maybe? I still feel like the case against them is strong though. Does anyone know polypies? Is this normal for them to like talk to themselves and post a couple times and then not do anything else?

This is probably pretty unlikely but what if NIK is a jester?

[Thunal33]

It bothers me that MR is the only person that thinks NIK could just be a townie in a new environment and is giving NIK way more of a chance than anyone else is. It feels like MR might have TMI about NIK being not mafia, so I'd actually vote MR over NIK right now (haven't completely caught up yet).

disagree

MR is the type who would state doubts as town

i totally believe this is a read he would have

and i'm sort of warming up to tp nik

If not MR or NIK, who do you suspect?

[112]

It bothers me that MR is the only person that thinks NIK could just be a townie in a new environment and is giving NIK way more of a chance than anyone else is. It feels like MR might have TMI about NIK being not mafia, so I'd actually vote MR over NIK right now (haven't completely caught up yet).

disagree

MR is the type who would state doubts as town

i totally believe this is a read he would have

and i'm sort of warming up to tp nik

If not MR or NIK, who do you suspect?

poly
nova
nanook to a degree
grand scheme to a degree
sig
kylemii
thundercat somewhat

[Thunal33]

If I am playing the way I am playing I am a townsiding mafia. The optimal thing to do is turn on me in the late game if I don't manage to get myself cleared somehow strongly. Let me townside and kill my team off then kill me. There's no pro town agenda behind tinfoiling me at this juncture.

I don't like this defense. I disagree with this reasoning because if we can elim a mafia over a townie then that's good for town no matter who that mafia might be "siding" with. Also a "townsiding mafia" could be an important mafia PR. This doesn't come from a towny mindset.

[sig]

It bothers me that MR is the only person that thinks NIK could just be a townie in a new environment and is giving NIK way more of a chance than anyone else is. It feels like MR might have TMI about NIK being not mafia, so I'd actually vote MR over NIK right now (haven't completely caught up yet).

disagree

MR is the type who would state doubts as town

i totally believe this is a read he would have

and i'm sort of warming up to tp nik

If not MR or NIK, who do you suspect?

poly
nova
nanook to a degree
grand scheme to a degree
sig
kylemii
thundercat somewhat

Wow there buddy, that's not very nice.

[Thunal33]

I don't really want to elim someone who just isn't here and hasn't done anything since I actually don't think that group is as likely to be scum as the midposter group based on past experience with a similar sized game that had a lot of slankers. In that game literally all the slankers were town and scum easily won by just posting enough to get by. I don't think all the slankers are town here but eliming a slanker feels like a shot in the dark and is probably less likely to hit scum at this point.

[112]

i'm not super opposed to a nik yeet for the record; my brain says it's good but my gut doesn't like it.

[Thunal33]

I don't really want to elim someone who just isn't here and hasn't done anything since I actually don't think that group is as likely to be scum as the midposter group based on past experience with a similar sized game that had a lot of slankers. In that game literally all the slankers were town and scum easily won by just posting enough to get by. I don't think all the slankers are town here but eliming a slanker feels like a shot in the dark and is probably less likely to hit scum at this point.

Looking at Polypies' ISO it doesn't look good but it just looks like a bunch of nothing. Kinda feels rand so I don't really want to go on that wagon.