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Alison - Town
Michelle - Null
Natalija - Scum 50/50 with Jiwon
Games ez, let's yeet one of those two then PoE Michelle and Cat.
Michelle - Null
Natalija - Scum 50/50 with Jiwon
Games ez, let's yeet one of those two then PoE Michelle and Cat.
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Don't vote for me, I'm town. Didn't you read my 1st post?
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The bellow quoted post? Proove it pleasefalcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Dec 02, 2020 8:38 pmDon't vote for me, I'm town. Didn't you read my 1st post?
Do you care about the elimination? Looks for me that you don't
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3 am >.<
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I am doing my damndest here! I suppose my flip would of course prove it, but I figure since you believe I'm scum then the burden if proof is upon the believer.Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Dec 02, 2020 9:16 pmThe bellow quoted post? Proove it pleasefalcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Dec 02, 2020 8:38 pmDon't vote for me, I'm town. Didn't you read my 1st post?
Do you care about the elimination? Looks for me that you don't
Ironic that you question Dr Wilgy caring about the elimination when you vote me for no stated reason
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Falcon why did you open the day with a vote on Jiwon? You didn't voice any suspicion of them before. Methinks you saw Wilgy suspect Jiwon, selected Jiwon as the exe target, and are trying to get a wagon rolling.
There's nothing that says a fake can't surpass the real thing.
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I checked N0. The only person who had suspicion voiced on them was Wilgy voicing suspicion on Jiwon. In a vacuum I'd think that the people most likely to be selected by the mafia for exeing are the people who have suspicion on them (unless they themselves are scum), or Wilgy, since he's the most commonly misexed player.
Wilgy's being shielded by two players, one of whom I know to be town (me). That means that I think either Jiwon is scum, or the mafia targeted Jiwon for execution. If it's the latter then Falcon's vote looks super suspicious. I think town Falcon tends to be more paranoid and needly and constantly poke and prod at people he suspects, usually with strong, blunt rhetoric. This naked vote stuff isn't like him at all.
Wilgy's being shielded by two players, one of whom I know to be town (me). That means that I think either Jiwon is scum, or the mafia targeted Jiwon for execution. If it's the latter then Falcon's vote looks super suspicious. I think town Falcon tends to be more paranoid and needly and constantly poke and prod at people he suspects, usually with strong, blunt rhetoric. This naked vote stuff isn't like him at all.
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natalija made an undeclared vote on Jiwon. Also no explanation. So them and Falcon are my scum pool right now.
Wilgy is the towniest player so far (never thought I'd say that), Michelle has been fairly townie and would be extremely so if Falcon is scum. I still townread LC. Everyone else is null.
Wilgy is the towniest player so far (never thought I'd say that), Michelle has been fairly townie and would be extremely so if Falcon is scum. I still townread LC. Everyone else is null.
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If naked votes are suspicious, why aren't naked reads?
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A naked vote is a vote without a reasoning or progression, so I'm not sure what you mean by naked read.
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Naked read is empty read without any explanation or context. Just writing down a name and allignment next to it.
I can see it's meta from your side but i wouldn't give points to someone because that's very easy to fake.
But Michelle feels sketchy for saying it's brave.
If it comes from mafia there's nothing brave about it. So my gut says it's likely mafia coming from the perspective that Wilgy is town or just pocketing.
[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine
Jiwon was completely focused on game 2 so i'll back the wagon even if it does have 3 votes already. But it felt so blatantly scummy that i'll say if it does flip mafia the voter is already on there.
That would be Falcon/Wilgy/Natalija.
I can see it's meta from your side but i wouldn't give points to someone because that's very easy to fake.
But Michelle feels sketchy for saying it's brave.
If it comes from mafia there's nothing brave about it. So my gut says it's likely mafia coming from the perspective that Wilgy is town or just pocketing.
[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine
Jiwon was completely focused on game 2 so i'll back the wagon even if it does have 3 votes already. But it felt so blatantly scummy that i'll say if it does flip mafia the voter is already on there.
That would be Falcon/Wilgy/Natalija.
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Prattay sure I am the 8 ball here
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I don't get this read.
And why are you voting Michelle if you think there's scum on the Jiwon wagon in all worlds?
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A read in night 0 with so little content is brave from my pov no matter his AI.cat wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 4:27 am Naked read is empty read without any explanation or context. Just writing down a name and allignment next to it.
I can see it's meta from your side but i wouldn't give points to someone because that's very easy to fake.
But Michelle feels sketchy for saying it's brave.
If it comes from mafia there's nothing brave about it. So my gut says it's likely mafia coming from the perspective that Wilgy is town or just pocketing.
[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine
Jiwon was completely focused on game 2 so i'll back the wagon even if it does have 3 votes already. But it felt so blatantly scummy that i'll say if it does flip mafia the voter is already on there.
That would be Falcon/Wilgy/Natalija.
'If' can cover a lot of bad inputs, from a wrong townie to a mafia pushing a narrative so don't tell me what's hapening if Dr W is mafia because i don't care about Dr. Ws alignament when I say he's brave.
If town he's risking few reads and when he will be questioned he will have to answer a lot, and if mafia it will be harder to push to mislim a town read he already gave and he does not know so early in the game who will be the thread consensus to elim at Eod.
OTOH I think this vote comes from town so carry on.
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@Dragon D. Luffy please help us with the Isos, is hard to search on phone
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The ISOs links i meant ^^
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So we have the posts above quoted and my guess who was ignored.
This makes me think that Falcon didn't interact with me on purpose so I voted him.
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Picking from my posts what is convenient to make a scum read for me.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Dec 02, 2020 9:58 pmI am doing my damndest here! I suppose my flip would of course prove it, but I figure since you believe I'm scum then the burden if proof is upon the believer.Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Dec 02, 2020 9:16 pmThe bellow quoted post? Proove it pleasefalcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Dec 02, 2020 8:38 pmDon't vote for me, I'm town. Didn't you read my 1st post?
Do you care about the elimination? Looks for me that you don't
Ironic that you question Dr Wilgy caring about the elimination when you vote me for no stated reason
I don't need more to consider you scum because this is scum behaviour @falcon45ca but if I am wrong I expect you to explain yourself and show me that your first post contains the truth
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What LC did to deserve a TR?Alison wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 12:29 am natalija made an undeclared vote on Jiwon. Also no explanation. So them and Falcon are my scum pool right now.
Wilgy is the towniest player so far (never thought I'd say that), Michelle has been fairly townie and would be extremely so if Falcon is scum. I still townread LC. Everyone else is null.
What was towny at me?
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Vote count now
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Alison
cat
DrWilgy
falcon45ca
JiwonMeganPark
Long Con
Michelle
Natalija
@Michelle
Also adding to the first post.
cat
DrWilgy
falcon45ca
JiwonMeganPark
Long Con
Michelle
Natalija
@Michelle
Also adding to the first post.
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LC's is more of a toneread - as I said before, he strikes me as unselfconscious and relaxed, when I see him more wound up as scum. I'm not going to lock him town off it or anything, but I have a decently track record at getting there on LC's alignment, so I'm happy to give it as an early read.Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 8:42 amWhat LC did to deserve a TR?Alison wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 12:29 am natalija made an undeclared vote on Jiwon. Also no explanation. So them and Falcon are my scum pool right now.
Wilgy is the towniest player so far (never thought I'd say that), Michelle has been fairly townie and would be extremely so if Falcon is scum. I still townread LC. Everyone else is null.
What was towny at me?
For you, it's mostly because I tend to model you as having more explosive starts when you're town, wanting to get the ball rolling and trying to establish relationships and engage with players. I tend to think - at least from what I saw of your play in Champs - that you try harder to fade into the background as scum. I also think that you tend to pay close attention to the dynamics of other players interacting with you as a basis for developing reads as town, and I've seen evidence of that attention - eg. in #72.
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If you think you're the 8 ball then you presumably agree that there's a really good chance that there's at least 1 scum on your wagon. Who do you think it is?
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Check the OP. The 8 ball is the person targeted by the mafia. If we exe the 8 ball, the mafia get a nightkill. If we don't exe the 8 ball, they don't.
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I read the OP already, thanks. I didn't see that player referred to as the 8-ball. I'd call it the Called Shot, makes more sense.
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Pretty sure I called Jiwon a sycophant before Dr Wilgy even entered the thread, but Imma check.
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Your theory only works if Jiwan is scum with me. You think I'm bussing a teammate? Alison thinks pushing a town wagon, you two should discuss your different approaches to thinking Im scumMichelle wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 8:26 amSo we have the posts above quoted and my guess who was ignored.
This makes me think that Falcon didn't interact with me on purpose so I voted him.
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Picking from my posts what is convenient to make a scum read for me.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Dec 02, 2020 9:58 pmI am doing my damndest here! I suppose my flip would of course prove it, but I figure since you believe I'm scum then the burden if proof is upon the believer.Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Dec 02, 2020 9:16 pmThe bellow quoted post? Proove it pleasefalcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Dec 02, 2020 8:38 pmDon't vote for me, I'm town. Didn't you read my 1st post?
Do you care about the elimination? Looks for me that you don't
Ironic that you question Dr Wilgy caring about the elimination when you vote me for no stated reason
I don't need more to consider you scum because this is scum behaviour @falcon45ca but if I am wrong I expect you to explain yourself and show me that your first post contains the truth
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Eait, so Dr Wilgy looks brave for shading Jiwan, but I'm bussing a teammate? Ooooooooookay
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Also @Michelle , I'm not picking whats convenient in your posts, just your hypocrisy
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Re: GAME 1 - 8-Ball Mafia [Day 1]
I think you did and I had no clue whatsoever what it meantfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 10:05 am
Pretty sure I called Jiwon a sycophant before Dr Wilgy even entered the thread, but Imma check.
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Merriam Webster defines it as a servile, self-seeking flattererNatalija wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 10:25 amI think you did and I had no clue whatsoever what it meantfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 10:05 am
Pretty sure I called Jiwon a sycophant before Dr Wilgy even entered the thread, but Imma check.
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Yeah sure, what else could you say, when you don't have a real explanation.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 10:12 am Also @Michelle , I'm not picking whats convenient in your posts, just your hypocrisy
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Re: GAME 1 - 8-Ball Mafia [Night 0]
No he is brave for TRing a quarter of the playerslist after so little content, i thought it was clear.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 10:10 amEait, so Dr Wilgy looks brave for shading Jiwan, but I'm bussing a teammate? Ooooooooookay
Re: GAME 1 - 8-Ball Mafia [Day 1]
I like this. Unless you were hunting for a means to yeet Falcon to get that sweet sweet NK.Alison wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 12:26 am I checked N0. The only person who had suspicion voiced on them was Wilgy voicing suspicion on Jiwon. In a vacuum I'd think that the people most likely to be selected by the mafia for exeing are the people who have suspicion on them (unless they themselves are scum), or Wilgy, since he's the most commonly misexed player.
Wilgy's being shielded by two players, one of whom I know to be town (me). That means that I think either Jiwon is scum, or the mafia targeted Jiwon for execution. If it's the latter then Falcon's vote looks super suspicious. I think town Falcon tends to be more paranoid and needly and constantly poke and prod at people he suspects, usually with strong, blunt rhetoric. This naked vote stuff isn't like him at all.
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Why do you want to divert my attention to Alison?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 10:06 amYour theory only works if Jiwan is scum with me. You think I'm bussing a teammate? Alison thinks pushing a town wagon, you two should discuss your different approaches to thinking Im scumSpoiler: show
My theory works if you are scum. And you are shading me and don't make any action to solve the game.
Re: GAME 1 - 8-Ball Mafia [Day 1]
Moving my vote to [VOTE:
Natalija] aubergine.
This discussion tone seems to indicate that Michelle and Alison are solving. Jiwon and Falcon can resolve against Natalija. Cat can be PoE'd.
This discussion tone seems to indicate that Michelle and Alison are solving. Jiwon and Falcon can resolve against Natalija. Cat can be PoE'd.
Re: GAME 1 - 8-Ball Mafia [Day 1]
The other game has like 64 pages already. WYA ppl. I want to slank again.
Re: GAME 1 - 8-Ball Mafia [Day 1]
I guess i see your point but there is no explanation to the reads either, so there isn't any guidelines that need to be followed. Wilgy could change his list and say ''i changed my mind'' and there wouldn't be much arguing since there wasn't a reason stated to begin with. If an explanation is required there is a lot of freedom too. If he wasn't doing anything with the read he could brush it off as a reaction test. The reads don't hold any value as it stands. But that probably does make it more flashy and risky in a way.Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 8:12 am
A read in night 0 with so little content is brave from my pov no matter his AI.
'If' can cover a lot of bad inputs, from a wrong townie to a mafia pushing a narrative so don't tell me what's hapening if Dr W is mafia because i don't care about Dr. Ws alignament when I say he's brave.
If town he's risking few reads and when he will be questioned he will have to answer a lot, and if mafia it will be harder to push to mislim a town read he already gave and he does not know so early in the game who will be the thread consensus to elim at Eod.
The other game is mostly fluff anyway.
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I could vote. We have a long way to go until poll's end. I'm really not here for long enough at this point. Tonight, or at least in a few hours.
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You being a hypocrite is the explanation. I gave examples of it as well.Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 12:15 pmYeah sure, what else could you say, when you don't have a real explanation.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 10:12 am Also @Michelle , I'm not picking whats convenient in your posts, just your hypocrisy
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