Doppelgangsters - Game Over - Town Wins

[MartinWP69]

I have a strange observation to make about Maid, so please forgive me if this is confusing to any of you.

I feel as though Maid looks like they are searching for wolves instead of townies. Another way to put it is they are looking for suspects instead of making reads. I am referring to posts like these ones when I say this:

Hard claim Mason with Fuskdall. Sheep us for the glory.

Is everyone just intentionally ignoring the fact nutella outed herself?

masons don't claim in day 0

My Day 1 scum read is actually proven to be 100% accurate in every game I've played on here and on MU. nutella is lock scum.

TSP possible teammate.

*Idontbelieveyou.gif

Guys after reading this I have to day I'm very excited to play this, game everyone here fells really good at mafia and this is looking to be na amazing game. It is unfortunate I rolled miller and I understand if you have to kill me d1 but it is worth noting that I become innocent child if I get best rper! Not that I'm rping anyone this is just me going try hard.

Good RP, you are pocketing everyone, well done!

Maid also voted for 1337 following the miller claim but unvoted once others started coming to their defense. I think it looks opportunistic, and the unvote was nervous backtracking.

[Akemi Homura]

I would like to figure out if 1337's miller claim was roleplay or serious, so I am reviewing the games they linked to for their meta (though there are only two games and they are both on The Syndicate, but I do believe 1612 is an experienced player in other communities).

1612 is an experienced video mafia player iirc. Not as much experience in forum mafia. He is a good mafia player regardless of the format.

Claiming Miller when rolling Miller is optimal play in any setup.

[Akemi Homura]

I wanted to vote for Maid, but TSP claimed a Day 0 Green Peak on them. @MartinWP69

[Akemi Homura]

Martin is Town.

[dodo]

I wanted to vote for Maid, but TSP claimed a Day 0 Green Peak on them. @MartinWP69

and you believed PSP???

[Akemi Homura]

Actually, TSP has wolf equity with nutella so if he was lying, we should exe him next.

[Akemi Homura]

I wanted to vote for Maid, but TSP claimed a Day 0 Green Peak on them. @MartinWP69

and you believed PSP???

What is your current read on PSP?

[MartinWP69]

I wanted to vote for Maid, but TSP claimed a Day 0 Green Peak on them. @MartinWP69

I did not take that claim seriously.

[dodo]

I wanted to vote for Maid, but TSP claimed a Day 0 Green Peak on them. @MartinWP69

and you believed PSP???

What is your current read on PSP?

i just did the iso. PSP is bad. BAD bad.

PSP, you are a very bad wolf

[dodo]

is psp playing tsp’s meta?

[Akemi Homura]

im just waiting for dodo's real reads
i don't think dodo is that scummy

Hold on.

How would you know if dodo is usually scummy or not? Nobody knows each other's real identities. Are you slipping that you know dodo's real identity because she told you in your mafia chat together?

this is an odd take.

here is where i am at

paprika/t
Quokka/m
Alison/t
1337/ n
Boringboi/n
nutella/bff/n
Martín/n
PSP/n
My shell/n
Maid/ t
Wilgy/ n

You have 3 town, 1 wolf and 7 null?

You name me as town, despite throwing shade my way just moments earlier for "hiding behind roleplay". This list doesn't feel genuine, and if it was GTH, it's just as bad with 7 null reads.

[Akemi Homura]

I wanted to vote for Maid, but TSP claimed a Day 0 Green Peak on them. @MartinWP69

I did not take that claim seriously.

I see that now. At least no one claimed mafia. Those are policy exes.

[MartinWP69]

is psp playing tsp’s meta?

It looks that way. I still think they are mildly suspicious. Their Day 0 pushes felt half-hearted.

[MartinWP69]

But that could just be a product of the roleplay.

[dodo]

im just waiting for dodo's real reads
i don't think dodo is that scummy

Hold on.

How would you know if dodo is usually scummy or not? Nobody knows each other's real identities. Are you slipping that you know dodo's real identity because she told you in your mafia chat together?

this is an odd take.

here is where i am at

paprika/t
Quokka/m
Alison/t
1337/ n
Boringboi/n
nutella/bff/n
Martín/n
PSP/n
My shell/n
Maid/ t
Wilgy/ n

You have 3 town, 1 wolf and 7 null?

You name me as town, despite throwing shade my way just moments earlier for "hiding behind roleplay". This list doesn't feel genuine, and if it was GTH, it's just as bad with 7 null reads.

you were quiet, then you weren’t so i changed my mind

[My Shell]

Dodo feels like they are looking for a place to push, pony is not that wolfy

[dodo]

I wanted to vote for Maid, but TSP claimed a Day 0 Green Peak on them. @MartinWP69

I did not take that claim seriously.

I see that now. At least no one claimed mafia. Those are policy exes.

paprika did

[My Shell]

Agree with Akemi the null reads are bad sign

[dodo]

Dodo feels like they are looking for a place to push, pony is not that wolfy

you just say you’re voting for me to apply pressure, but pushing is bad?

[My Shell]

Dodo feels like they are looking for a place to push, pony is not that wolfy

you just say you’re voting for me to apply pressure, but pushing is bad?

Please explain how you find wolfy pony's Iso?

[dodo]

Dodo feels like they are looking for a place to push, pony is not that wolfy

you just say you’re voting for me to apply pressure, but pushing is bad?

Please explain how you find wolfy pony's Iso?

he says Martín is bad, then he says nothing for 9 post.

the he votes Martín and P O O F, he’s gone.

that’s weird

[MartinWP69]

Dodo feels like they are looking for a place to push, pony is not that wolfy

you just say you’re voting for me to apply pressure, but pushing is bad?

Please explain how you find wolfy pony's Iso?

he says Martín is bad, then he says nothing for 9 post.

the he votes Martín and P O O F, he’s gone.

that’s weird

To be fair, when he said I was bad it was still Day 0. There was no poll to vote in yet.

[dodo]

[VOTE: TaylorSwiftParty] aubergine

[dodo]

Dodo feels like they are looking for a place to push, pony is not that wolfy

you just say you’re voting for me to apply pressure, but pushing is bad?

Please explain how you find wolfy pony's Iso?

he says Martín is bad, then he says nothing for 9 post.

the he votes Martín and P O O F, he’s gone.

that’s weird

To be fair, when he said I was bad it was still Day 0. There was no poll to vote in yet.

that’s worse

[MartinWP69]

Dodo feels like they are looking for a place to push, pony is not that wolfy

you just say you’re voting for me to apply pressure, but pushing is bad?

Please explain how you find wolfy pony's Iso?

he says Martín is bad, then he says nothing for 9 post.

the he votes Martín and P O O F, he’s gone.

that’s weird

To be fair, when he said I was bad it was still Day 0. There was no poll to vote in yet.

that’s worse

How so?

[Maid]

I have a strange observation to make about Maid, so please forgive me if this is confusing to any of you.

I feel as though Maid looks like they are searching for wolves instead of townies. Another way to put it is they are looking for suspects instead of making reads. I am referring to posts like these ones when I say this:

Hard claim Mason with Fuskdall. Sheep us for the glory.

Is everyone just intentionally ignoring the fact nutella outed herself?

masons don't claim in day 0

My Day 1 scum read is actually proven to be 100% accurate in every game I've played on here and on MU. nutella is lock scum.

TSP possible teammate.

*Idontbelieveyou.gif

Guys after reading this I have to day I'm very excited to play this, game everyone here fells really good at mafia and this is looking to be na amazing game. It is unfortunate I rolled miller and I understand if you have to kill me d1 but it is worth noting that I become innocent child if I get best rper! Not that I'm rping anyone this is just me going try hard.

Good RP, you are pocketing everyone, well done!

Maid also voted for 1337 following the miller claim but unvoted once others started coming to their defense. I think it looks opportunistic, and the unvote was nervous backtracking.

I'm anything but nervous, I said the reason I didn't vote, it was because 1337 repeated the claim.
you're stretch things out so they get cringy
Re-evaluation is not backtracking

[Maid]

im just waiting for dodo's real reads
i don't think dodo is that scummy

Hold on.

How would you know if dodo is usually scummy or not? Nobody knows each other's real identities. Are you slipping that you know dodo's real identity because she told you in your mafia chat together?

this is an odd take.

here is where i am at

paprika/t
Quokka/m
Alison/t
1337/ n
Boringboi/n
nutella/bff/n
Martín/n
PSP/n
My shell/n
Maid/ t
Wilgy/ n

Why do you think I am villager?

[MartinWP69]

I have a strange observation to make about Maid, so please forgive me if this is confusing to any of you.

I feel as though Maid looks like they are searching for wolves instead of townies. Another way to put it is they are looking for suspects instead of making reads. I am referring to posts like these ones when I say this:

Hard claim Mason with Fuskdall. Sheep us for the glory.

Is everyone just intentionally ignoring the fact nutella outed herself?

masons don't claim in day 0

My Day 1 scum read is actually proven to be 100% accurate in every game I've played on here and on MU. nutella is lock scum.

TSP possible teammate.

*Idontbelieveyou.gif

Guys after reading this I have to day I'm very excited to play this, game everyone here fells really good at mafia and this is looking to be na amazing game. It is unfortunate I rolled miller and I understand if you have to kill me d1 but it is worth noting that I become innocent child if I get best rper! Not that I'm rping anyone this is just me going try hard.

Good RP, you are pocketing everyone, well done!

Maid also voted for 1337 following the miller claim but unvoted once others started coming to their defense. I think it looks opportunistic, and the unvote was nervous backtracking.

I'm anything but nervous, I said the reason I didn't vote, it was because 1337 repeated the claim.
you're stretch things out so they get cringy
Re-evaluation is not backtracking

I still feel that your posts so far make you look more concerned with finding a suspect than making actual reads.

[dodo]

Dodo feels like they are looking for a place to push, pony is not that wolfy

you just say you’re voting for me to apply pressure, but pushing is bad?

Please explain how you find wolfy pony's Iso?

he says Martín is bad, then he says nothing for 9 post.

the he votes Martín and P O O F, he’s gone.

that’s weird

To be fair, when he said I was bad it was still Day 0. There was no poll to vote in yet.

that’s worse

How so?

PSP was either saying he really thought you were bad and stayed silent on why...OOOORRRR....he was joking which means he’s hasn’t said ANYTHING but fluff this game!!!!

this. man. is. bad.

[dodo]

im just waiting for dodo's real reads
i don't think dodo is that scummy

Hold on.

How would you know if dodo is usually scummy or not? Nobody knows each other's real identities. Are you slipping that you know dodo's real identity because she told you in your mafia chat together?

this is an odd take.

here is where i am at

paprika/t
Quokka/m
Alison/t
1337/ n
Boringboi/n
nutella/bff/n
Martín/n
PSP/n
My shell/n
Maid/ t
Wilgy/ n

Why do you think I am villager?

i think you are weird. but i ALSO think you are useful too.

i think it’s hard to fake both of those

[Akemi Homura]

[VOTE: dodo] aubergine

How is Maid weird and useful?

[dodo]

[VOTE: dodo] aubergine

How is Maid weird and useful?

his weird color things and non response responses don’t follow my thinking exactly, but they make sense.

[MartinWP69]

you just say you’re voting for me to apply pressure, but pushing is bad?

Please explain how you find wolfy pony's Iso?

he says Martín is bad, then he says nothing for 9 post.

the he votes Martín and P O O F, he’s gone.

that’s weird

To be fair, when he said I was bad it was still Day 0. There was no poll to vote in yet.

that’s worse

How so?

PSP was either saying he really thought you were bad and stayed silent on why...OOOORRRR....he was joking which means he’s hasn’t said ANYTHING but fluff this game!!!!

this. man. is. bad.

I do not follow. I thought TravelingSalesPerson was just fishing for reactions. It was Day 0 and nothing was happening, so it is NAI to me that they would make pushes like that. It was not fluff, rather I thought it felt more like an endeavor to generate reads.

What I find suspicious is that they didn’t seem personally invested in those pushes. But the pushes themselves were fine.

[NurseWilgy]

@Boringboi666
@Fuskdall
@MartinWP69
@nutellaphant
@PonySparkPrime
@1337

Thoughts on Dodo? Looks like there is quite some traction on them all of a sudden.

Rude.

[NurseWilgy]

1337 looks good
Akemi is decent
Boring is boring
Dodo shouldn't be made extinct
Fuskfall looks good
Maid serves the town
N in Nutellaphant stands for null
My Shell is rude
Quokka looks good

Gut scum-reading Paprika and I'm not sure why.

[NurseWilgy]

1337 looks good
Akemi is decent
Boring is boring
Dodo shouldn't be made extinct
Fuskfall looks good
Maid serves the town
N in Nutellaphant stands for null
My Shell is rude
Quokka looks good

Gut scum-reading Paprika and I'm not sure why.

Ponystarkprime is forgettable.

[NurseWilgy]

WTF IM NOT MEMEING I am actually miller the post says no untold millers I was told the post was specific for a reason LMAO

OH BRUH WTF
Okay there goes my theory of him memeing as town but I guess I still want to believe his miller claim.... or should i?
i have never played with a self-aware miller so I don't really know how this plays out but I don't know, I feel like he's town

1337 the way things are going, either Maid is correct town and they are right on you, or they are tinfoil town and you're both town

I don't see Maid doing this opportunistic play if you are indeed town. I will cry if this is some beautiful distancing but I don't see you either as mafia

This feels bad

[MartinWP69]

1337 looks good
Akemi is decent
Boring is boring
Dodo shouldn't be made extinct
Fuskfall looks good
Maid serves the town
N in Nutellaphant stands for null
My Shell is rude
Quokka looks good

Gut scum-reading Paprika and I'm not sure why.

Ponystarkprime is forgettable.

[Fuskdall]

This is really blowing up my archetype sorting ability. There are a lot of players who only make that post as town. Some of them are in this game.

I'm feeling pretty good about Fuskdall being towny, I think they are looking at the miller claim rather openly on what type of player they are as context rather than just saying objectively what is anti-town

this is not abut the miller claim
uh
to counteract you're point, I will say that if the miller claim is true it is always optimal.

oh i mean i thought your read on 1337 was about just the type of post from the player, not necessarily the miller claim which is basically memeing "i am mafia" at day start
I don't think there is a miller in this setup, that sounds weird
So if the miller claim is false, do you think is that 1337 falls under this statement you said? "There are a lot of players who only make that post as town."
I took this as a light town read from you or at least a non-scum read on 1337

If the Miller claim is false, initially, sure. But that’s neglecting that they’ve repeatedly called it true. At this point, we’re past the point where it’s a town thing. Also — not really a town fake in general. So yeah, I have a light town read. But it’s about Martin’s post. It’s hedgy. Someone’s throwing it out for scumreads, or they’re actually hedgy on some things, or they’re mafia.

[Fuskdall]

WTF IM NOT MEMEING I am actually miller the post says no untold millers I was told the post was specific for a reason LMAO

OH BRUH WTF
Okay there goes my theory of him memeing as town but I guess I still want to believe his miller claim.... or should i?
i have never played with a self-aware miller so I don't really know how this plays out but I don't know, I feel like he's town

This is just ?

[Fuskdall]

People are talking about 1612’s claim, which was conducted as benignly as possible, and it bothers me

[Fuskdall]

And Dunya is clearly town

[Fuskdall]

is psp playing tsp’s meta?

No Taylor Swift references, so hard to tell

[Fuskdall]

The thing about faking meta is it doesn’t overcome post count reads. So we try to read off meta, and then what? Top posters should be Sloonei, Alison, TSP. But I think Alison is maybe focused on moving, TSP is still in school. So who’s Sloonei?

[Fuskdall]

I’m not killing fake Sloonei off meta.

[nutellaphant]

I think nutellaphent is mafia

nutellaphent and i are really close. i love her more than i love life itself.

i think I can read her better than anyone and i don't think i am seeing baddie nutella yet.

nutellaphent, are you bad this game?

of course not!

Guys after reading this I have to day I'm very excited to play this, game everyone here fells really good at mafia and this is looking to be na amazing game. It is unfortunate I rolled miller and I understand if you have to kill me d1 but it is worth noting that I become innocent child if I get best rper! Not that I'm rping anyone this is just me going try hard.

This is believable, and the right thing to do given the role he claimed.

does anyone want to counterclaim mafia? i am no longer sure how reliable my source is <_<

i no longer know if it make sense to EVER trust a third tier seasoning

speaking of anthropomorphized foods, has anyone seen my nutellaphant? i need to ask her something

I would like to figure out if 1337's miller claim was roleplay or serious, so I am reviewing the games they linked to for their meta (though there are only two games and they are both on The Syndicate, but I do believe 1612 is an experienced player in other communities).

It does not look like 1612 has ever claimed miller in a previous game, or at least not in either of the ones they provided for this game. Furthermore, they never claim to be new to mafia, only new to The Syndicate. Thus, it is unlikely that 1337 is roleplaying when they say that they are new or that they are a miller.

But that got me wondering if anyone here is new. I thought Made was new, but they linked to games from as far back as 2014, so it appears they are an experienced player returning from a long absence. Duskfall's earliest linked game is from April of this year, but he looks like a confident and skilled player in each of those games. Therefore I think Duskfall is also not an inexperienced player. There is nobody in this game who would qualify as "new" or "inexperienced", but I am at a loss as to why anyone would want to roleplay as a noob when they are experienced and their sockpuppet character is too. It is baffling behavior, but for now I feel it is NAI.

I think this is a great point. I'm not about to check everyone's past games, though. If there are no real newbies here and yet someone is pretending to be new, then they're being suspicious.

I have a strange observation to make about Maid, so please forgive me if this is confusing to any of you.

I feel as though Maid looks like they are searching for wolves instead of townies. Another way to put it is they are looking for suspects instead of making reads. I am referring to posts like these ones when I say this:

Hard claim Mason with Fuskdall. Sheep us for the glory.

Is everyone just intentionally ignoring the fact nutella outed herself?

masons don't claim in day 0

My Day 1 scum read is actually proven to be 100% accurate in every game I've played on here and on MU. nutella is lock scum.

TSP possible teammate.

*Idontbelieveyou.gif

Guys after reading this I have to day I'm very excited to play this, game everyone here fells really good at mafia and this is looking to be na amazing game. It is unfortunate I rolled miller and I understand if you have to kill me d1 but it is worth noting that I become innocent child if I get best rper! Not that I'm rping anyone this is just me going try hard.

Good RP, you are pocketing everyone, well done!

Maid also voted for 1337 following the miller claim but unvoted once others started coming to their defense. I think it looks opportunistic, and the unvote was nervous backtracking.

I actually find Maid's wolf-hunting to be townie and not wolfy. How interesting. I like your posts so far Martin!

So far, I have Alison, Maid, and Martin as town. I'm more hesitant on 1337 due to Martin's post, though I'll leave them be because of their claim

[dodo]

-Mafia will be provided with multiple fakeclaims to choose from

i don’t think i can put too much faith into role claims this early.

why is claiming to be mason D0 a good idea...???

[Fuskdall]

-Mafia will be provided with multiple fakeclaims to choose from

i don’t think i can put too much faith into role claims this early.

why is claiming to be mason D0 a good idea...???

you do it it's the law

[NurseWilgy]

Can we talk more about Dodo wagon?

I fail to understand it.

[NurseWilgy]

im just waiting for dodo's real reads
i don't think dodo is that scummy

Hold on.

How would you know if dodo is usually scummy or not? Nobody knows each other's real identities. Are you slipping that you know dodo's real identity because she told you in your mafia chat together?

this is an odd take.

here is where i am at

paprika/t
Quokka/m
Alison/t
1337/ n
Boringboi/n
nutella/bff/n
Martín/n
PSP/n
My shell/n
Maid/ t
Wilgy/ n

You have 3 town, 1 wolf and 7 null?

You name me as town, despite throwing shade my way just moments earlier for "hiding behind roleplay". This list doesn't feel genuine, and if it was GTH, it's just as bad with 7 null reads.

Question, how does this make it necessarily bad?