Christmas Time Is Here Again

[Syn]

Mr. Sloonei, what's ur take on Syn?

Sheeping Alison’s town read on him. They were mafia teammates in Simpsons not too long ago and she said he’s very different here than he was there.

I think this is my first time actually playing in a game with Syn. I hosted Simpsons but didn’t follow it astutely enough to note any particulars about Grampa Synson’s play.

Grampa Synson is clever af

My play isn't different atm, about as slank-y low impact-y as in that game

[Syn]

Ms. Syn same question but for sloonei.

I would die for Sloonei

[Sloonei]

I think I’m universally town read, and mafia can only kill me if they want to use their one-time shot. It’s a pretty sweet deal.

[Made]

~Reading Rainbow~

civvie

Made is town

mew reads like a civvie whose out of element but doesn't force the "hey guise i don't know what's going on!?". Her end of day looks genuine

The Marmot recap pretty much follows my thinking beat for beat. wifom on the coal pt2 feels like a trap worth avoiding for now

Grand Scheme is a green utilitarian, and his rhymes are as fun as baseball is american.

Kyle doesn't feel like he's really pushing things in any direction. His post felt fluffy in thread on first read, but his iso doesn't. plus i love kyle <3

ehhhhh

sig's mechanic talk was kinda irrelevant, but in a civvie way. His alison vote looked weird, but im vibing with him today

samu looked worst for not moving things yesterday, but i like his pushes today

bad

sloonei insist that samu is obv town because and then argues i'm bad because and then argues mewtini is bad because all of it feels forced

syn's end of day looks AWFUL. if wilgy is bad then syn is the teammate.

wilgy's talk looked bad yesterday, EOD vote around him look bad, silence today looks bad. iunnlikeem

knowing [VOTE: Wilgy] aubergine's alignment feels like it gives us the most information

thoughts?

[Made]

I think I’m universally town read, and mafia can only kill me if they want to use their one-time shot. It’s a pretty sweet deal.

ehhh...bout that...

[Sloonei]

@Made

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I did not like Made's initial progression on Samu:

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this is word salady af. I don't see how this kind of staging is helps us when it hasn't happened, it just will create more confusion when/if it does, which serves scum

Wow!

I'm saying why i read someone scum, and finishing that thought, that is very confuse, haha no.

You just used the word prototypical. This is some syergistic corporate megalamanic viscerlony baloney my friend

get rid of the words and you get "yeah, uhhh no me? no u!! anyways wifom anyone?"

I informed him that a language barrier was standing between samu and the rest of us. Made acknowledged this fact but explicitly gave it no weight in his read:

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Word, respect. keeping my sus, but tossing the knife. I don't know what the word prototypical means, and big words threaten me general, so that much might just be on me

I think this makes his samu suspicion appear very flimsy. "Big words scary" amounts to nothing at all, and is not quite the same as the initial "word salad" accusation. The goalposts have been moved.

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You just used the word prototypical. This is some syergistic corporate megalamanic viscerlony baloney my friend

get rid of the words and you get "yeah, uhhh no me? no u!! anyways wifom anyone?"

I dont understand this post.

I was saying that I thought your post was wordy, and that it was wordy to hide your straight forward point that could make things more confusing later on.. Now that I know about the language gap, I still think that your take is sus, but i'm putting less weight into word choice

dropping this wifom mess, and dropping a vote on [VOTE: samusamu] aubergine

The goalposts are moved again. We started out with "word salad." Then it became "big words scary." Now he throws out the linguistic aspect of it entirely to say "your take is sus." Made has offered no opinion on any particular takes of samu's other than to generalize that his posts are confusing. When he was made aware of the language gap, he nodded at it as if it made a difference in his read, but instead of actually applying the new information and adjusting accordingly, Made just slid around it and voiced a new and unrelated reason to suspect Samu in stride. This is a Bad Look.

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Ahh wait, i can change my vote now.

[VOTE: Cat] aubergine

Dont like fluff posters

What do you think about sloonei?

What do you think about sloonei?

Hekkatown

Moving along, I do not know what the point of Made asking Samu for a read on me here was. I had previously told Made to his face that I suspected him in response to a direct question, but he did not acknowledge me at all. Instead, he asked samu for a read on me several hours later. I wanted him to answer his own question, and he slapped a town read on me, which is interesting because the extent of our interaction in the game prior to this was a generic prod question from Made, a juicy answer from Sloonei, and zero follow-up from Made.

I thought Made's responses to my interrogation afterward felt a bit flat, like he was trying to project confidence against my pressure:

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What do you think about sloonei?

Hekkatown

Why?

I like the cut of ya jib, not really see an angle for a bad paprika generally, and ur defense of samu enough sense to be genuine

I think you are mafia. Thoughts?

Kinda don’t believe you, so will see where that goes, but are entitled to your onion mr. paprika. I’m town, so

Why would I lie if I'm town?

reaction gauging imo, kinda “scumy” in a literal sense but it has utility, and I don’t have reason distrust that yet

What makes you think my suspicion of you is “reaction gauging”, @Made?

I “don’t” but it feels more likely that ur testing my loyalty to the civvie cause than any baddie angles I can think of anyways.

I am loyal to the court, my friend.

(Plus you just said you’re looking for [Something] so...)

I have trouble understanding the progression of these thoughts. Made says that he believes I am simply testing him for reactions, which means my suspicion is false, which is "scummy but has utility", but then he distinctly doesn't think I'm reaction testing, but that I'm "testing his loyalty" (???). None of this computes over here, and each response feels like it's meant more to appease me than to actually progress the dialogue to a place of understanding. Sometimes (not all the time) when I start digging deep into somebody like this, our back-and-forth will take the shape of an organic dialogue, and ideas will grow/expand out of it, and that's usually a sign of a good townie.
With Made, I ask a question and his answers are short, definitive, closed off. They go nowhere. They feel like obstacles, and he doesn't want there to be any more follow-up questions.

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mewtini's EoD 1:

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meant to make it on earlier, forgot that EoD was at 5,

i'm quickly skimming through right now. what's the case on cat, i thought they were just jokeposting?? or has something changed? before getting caught up/isoing i don't think that that slot is especially scummy or provides much info

and clarifying this because multiple people seem to be misunderstanding it

in particular because of how early into the phase it was
felt like priming to me even though i think i agree it is a town-important thing to talk about at some point, esp considering that it's unholsterable; setting up an inactive kill felt like a strange move right out of the gate

quickly noting here that i don't play by making true scumreads on d1

...so you make false scum reads? what you mean??

i focus on building a towncore d1 and general observation
i'll push on others and ofc i'll have my suspicions, but Making Hard Scumreads on d1 just locks me into an early hunting mindset that hasn't been that beneficial for me in the past. by "true" i mean "solid" or focused, it just isn't where my mind is on d1

~13 minutes to deadline. Token catch-up post. Asks for information on Cat. Implies some awareness, token dismissal of the wagon.

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like it baffles me that relatively few posts in people were calling out "strong" town or scumreads, esp the latter
but i guess that's just meta diff

~11 minutes to deadline. Follow up on meta observations. Unrelated to EoD activity.

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ok NOW i have isod cat

and i don't want to lynch there lol. anyone got an 11th hour counterwagon they wanna jump on with me, that preferably isn't wilgy (on tone i'd rather kill wilgy than cat, but the coal n0 makes me want to just leave him alone,)

~8 minutes to deadline. ISO'd cat in 3 minutes, came to the conclusion that they're town. Blanket opposition to wagon. Generic search for a counterwagon that's also not wilgy. No stated reason for any read on cat.

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i have like, a tinfoil cat/wilgy association read (not on tmi like people were saying earlier lmao) but i don't actually think either looks scummy independently and am not sure how other people got to that conclusion on cat. i think d1 jokeposting is a bad reason/~excuse to SR want someone dead

also cat has made actual pushes that made sense to me

hrrrgh 3 min left

~3 minutes to deadline. Introduces a tinfoil theory that links each of the two players she just defended in the previous post. What was mewtini doing in the last 5 minutes? She evidently dislikes all the options on the board as the clock is running out, but I see no evidence that she's actually trying to find another option.

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ok NOW i have isod cat

and i don't want to lynch there lol. anyone got an 11th hour counterwagon they wanna jump on with me, that preferably isn't wilgy (on tone i'd rather kill wilgy than cat, but the coal n0 makes me want to just leave him alone,)

i'm torn on Wilgy and Cat, both have said questionable things. Cat's post which Wilgy pointed out is a bit TMI and it wasn't ever addressed.

i guess i didn't go with the tmi explanation because it seemed so blatant? and early? not an organic slip or anything

~2 minutes to deadline. I don't know what specific post this is referring to. I don't know what it means. I don't know what mewtini's position on wilgy is. This feels like it wants to be both favorable and unfavorable. She had previously expressed a very hedgy "don't want to vote wilgy" stance.

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[VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine

mrgle

i have like, a tinfoil cat/wilgy association read (not on tmi like people were saying earlier lmao) but i don't actually think either looks scummy independently and am not sure how other people got to that conclusion on cat. i think d1 jokeposting is a bad reason/~excuse to SR want someone dead

also cat has made actual pushes that made sense to me

hrrrgh 3 min left

I'd switch to wilgy if you want to?

only saw this after i voted. lets go

~1 minute to deadline. A vote for wilgy, vocal support of a bandwagon there. After vocally opposing it 7 minutes ago.

mewtini never talked about any names other than cat and wilgy during her deadline window. She did not engage in much ongoing discussion at all.

I was not present for EoD, and it does not look like it was the most active deadline of all time, but mewtini's activity looks distinctly complacent, which is not at all backed up by her words. She gives the appearance of a player who is hungry to shake things up, but in actuality she's just kind of hanging out.

[Made]

nah, i saw them, they just don't really make sense to me. my issue with samu was the delivery, yes, but also the core message that sounded like a "no you, but also let's distract thread!". and mew showing up 13 minutes before deadline, and then throwing a new name in the mix i feel like would of been scummy af. reads like a team player imo

[Sloonei]

@everyone else, do my reads on made and mewtini make sense? Are they viable suspicions?

[Sloonei]

nah, i saw them, they just don't really make sense to me. my issue with samu was the delivery, yes, but also the core message that sounded like a "no you, but also let's distract thread!". and mew showing up 13 minutes before deadline, and then throwing a new name in the mix i feel like would of been scummy af. reads like a team player imo

Why was mewtini’s EoD behavior more townie than the alternative?

[Made]

I mean I just don’t think 15 minutes before eod is optimal time independent thinking. EOD vote chaos always gives me bad vibes. It’d like writing a group paper, and then last minute someone being like “What if we changed our topic ”

[Made]

Unless they know the paper is bad anyways...

[Made]

I don’t think sloonei syn and wilgy are the mafia team, but I do think we got at least two in that group

[Sloonei]

I don’t think sloonei syn and wilgy are the mafia team, but I do think we got at least two in that group

What did syn do at eod and why was it worse than mew?

[Syn]

I don’t think sloonei syn and wilgy are the mafia team, but I do think we got at least two in that group

What did syn do at eod and why was it worse than mew?

I switched from wilgy to sig when a wagon was forming on wilgy

[Made]

And creating a tie that mafia would of resolved

[Syn]

And creating a tie that mafia would of resolved

my vote did not tie a damn thing

[Syn]

And creating a tie that mafia would of resolved

my vote did not tie a damn thing

sig's whole "I was gonna switch but syn made me stay on cat " is a lie because my vote went through at the last possible second, he couldn't have switched unless he was gonna do it post-close

[DrWilgy]

I want to hear more from @DrWilgy today, his Day 1 was quite minimal, and he was one of the three wagons.

What's your take today Wilgy? Why'd you suspect Syn yesterday?

Entry was sub par and I didn't feel that they were a hunter.

[DrWilgy]

But let's murder Sig

[sig]

And creating a tie that mafia would of resolved

my vote did not tie a damn thing

sig's whole "I was gonna switch but syn made me stay on cat " is a lie because my vote went through at the last possible second, he couldn't have switched unless he was gonna do it post-close

There was enough time though before thread lock

[sig]

And how does voting at the last second make you look anything less than bad as it would've made a 3 way tie had I switched

[sig]

@everyone else, do my reads on made and mewtini make sense? Are they viable suspicions?

Yea the only thing I'm iffy on is that I kinda liked the last minute swing

[sig]

If wilgy is town though mew would look bad and vice verse

[sig]

And creating a tie that mafia would of resolved

my vote did not tie a damn thing

Since I didn't switch off Cat.

If I had it would've been a 3 way tie, you waited until the last second after I said I'd switch to wilgy

[sig]

[VOTE: syn] aubergine

I reread eod and i just can't its so scummy to swoop in last second and try to force a tie which would've given the mafia so much power

[Syn]

[VOTE: syn] aubergine

I reread eod and i just can't its so scummy to swoop in last second and try to force a tie which would've given the mafia so much power

meh, do it

[Samusamu]

~Reading Rainbow~

civvie

Made is town

mew reads like a civvie whose out of element but doesn't force the "hey guise i don't know what's going on!?". Her end of day looks genuine

The Marmot recap pretty much follows my thinking beat for beat. wifom on the coal pt2 feels like a trap worth avoiding for now

Grand Scheme is a green utilitarian, and his rhymes are as fun as baseball is american.

Kyle doesn't feel like he's really pushing things in any direction. His post felt fluffy in thread on first read, but his iso doesn't. plus i love kyle <3

ehhhhh

sig's mechanic talk was kinda irrelevant, but in a civvie way. His alison vote looked weird, but im vibing with him today

samu looked worst for not moving things yesterday, but i like his pushes today

bad

sloonei insist that samu is obv town because and then argues i'm bad because and then argues mewtini is bad because all of it feels forced

syn's end of day looks AWFUL. if wilgy is bad then syn is the teammate.

wilgy's talk looked bad yesterday, EOD vote around him look bad, silence today looks bad. iunnlikeem

knowing [VOTE: Wilgy] aubergine's alignment feels like it gives us the most information

thoughts?

Wtf dude? U talk like u know that cat was a bad lynch, i didnt see u defending him or convincing me/others to do other thing with enough reasons.

[Samusamu]

~Reading Rainbow~

civvie

Made is town

mew reads like a civvie whose out of element but doesn't force the "hey guise i don't know what's going on!?". Her end of day looks genuine

The Marmot recap pretty much follows my thinking beat for beat. wifom on the coal pt2 feels like a trap worth avoiding for now

Grand Scheme is a green utilitarian, and his rhymes are as fun as baseball is american.

Kyle doesn't feel like he's really pushing things in any direction. His post felt fluffy in thread on first read, but his iso doesn't. plus i love kyle <3

ehhhhh

sig's mechanic talk was kinda irrelevant, but in a civvie way. His alison vote looked weird, but im vibing with him today

samu looked worst for not moving things yesterday, but i like his pushes today

bad

sloonei insist that samu is obv town because and then argues i'm bad because and then argues mewtini is bad because all of it feels forced

syn's end of day looks AWFUL. if wilgy is bad then syn is the teammate.

wilgy's talk looked bad yesterday, EOD vote around him look bad, silence today looks bad. iunnlikeem

knowing [VOTE: Wilgy] aubergine's alignment feels like it gives us the most information

thoughts?

Also, the syn and wilgy parts are tu vagues for being your principal scum candidates.

Can u elaborate more or you cant

@Syn the 3vs3 i insist

[Samusamu]

I want to hear more from @DrWilgy today, his Day 1 was quite minimal, and he was one of the three wagons.

What's your take today Wilgy? Why'd you suspect Syn yesterday?

Entry was sub par and I didn't feel that they were a hunter.

Hey wtf are u doing this game? I remember as town more active/ proactive.

[sig]

i have like, a tinfoil cat/wilgy association read (not on tmi like people were saying earlier lmao) but i don't actually think either looks scummy independently and am not sure how other people got to that conclusion on cat. i think d1 jokeposting is a bad reason/~excuse to SR want someone dead

also cat has made actual pushes that made sense to me

hrrrgh 3 min left

I'd switch to wilgy if you want to?

4:58 I made this post

[VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine

mrgle

Mew votes in thread not poll 4:58

[VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine

mrgle

gotta vote in poll

4:59 I notice this, since I won't switch without Wilgy having a majority. Currently after Mew votes in poll

Cat 4
Wilgy 3
Sig 2

[VOTE: sig] aubergine

At EXCATLY 5:00 (end of phase) Syn swoops in switches from Wilgy to me making the count:

Cat 4
Wilgy 2
Sig 3

This was right when I was about to switch to Wilgy which would've then made it 3 across had I switched between 4:59-5

Literally trying to tie it the second poll closes?

This post was made right after I didn't switch vote at
5:01

Literally Syn swooped in at the last second and tried to tie the game, the only reason it wasn't tied is since I didn't switch my vote.

[Samusamu]

Well, slooney i'm waiting for a specific situation in the last 24 hours, if that happens im gonna tell u what it is, and then i need your colaboration.

Clue: it is about the pushes.

[sig]

Keeping in mind a 3 way tie of
Sig
Wilgy
Cat

Mafia would've picked whoever the civviest was, left the other two then we'd have wasted a phase lynching the other civ.

[sig]

Now there is a scenario where all 3 are civs and this is just mafia trying to spread chaos, but that seems like a massive risk.

[sig]

I think I’m universally town read, and mafia can only kill me if they want to use their one-time shot. It’s a pretty sweet deal.

I love that this post came right before Made's

[Samusamu]

Wtf This post is not visible to other users until it has been approved by a moderator.

[Samusamu]

~Reading Rainbow~

civvie

Made is town

mew reads like a civvie whose out of element but doesn't force the "hey guise i don't know what's going on!?". Her end of day looks genuine

The Marmot recap pretty much follows my thinking beat for beat. wifom on the coal pt2 feels like a trap worth avoiding for now

Grand Scheme is a green utilitarian, and his rhymes are as fun as baseball is american.

Kyle doesn't feel like he's really pushing things in any direction. His post felt fluffy in thread on first read, but his iso doesn't. plus i love kyle <3

ehhhhh

sig's mechanic talk was kinda irrelevant, but in a civvie way. His alison vote looked weird, but im vibing with him today

samu looked worst for not moving things yesterday, but i like his pushes today

bad

sloonei insist that samu is obv town because and then argues i'm bad because and then argues mewtini is bad because all of it feels forced

syn's end of day looks AWFUL. if wilgy is bad then syn is the teammate.

wilgy's talk looked bad yesterday, EOD vote around him look bad, silence today looks bad. iunnlikeem

knowing [VOTE: Wilgy] aubergine's alignment feels like it gives us the most information

thoughts?

Wtf dude? U talk like u know that cat was a bad lynch, i didnt see u defending him or convincing me/others to do other thing with enough reasons.

Also, the syn and wilgy parts are tu vagues for being your principal scum candidates.

Can u elaborate more or you cant

@Syn the 3vs3 i insist

[Samusamu]

~Reading Rainbow~

civvie

Made is town

mew reads like a civvie whose out of element but doesn't force the "hey guise i don't know what's going on!?". Her end of day looks genuine

The Marmot recap pretty much follows my thinking beat for beat. wifom on the coal pt2 feels like a trap worth avoiding for now

Grand Scheme is a green utilitarian, and his rhymes are as fun as baseball is american.

Kyle doesn't feel like he's really pushing things in any direction. His post felt fluffy in thread on first read, but his iso doesn't. plus i love kyle <3

ehhhhh

sig's mechanic talk was kinda irrelevant, but in a civvie way. His alison vote looked weird, but im vibing with him today

samu looked worst for not moving things yesterday, but i like his pushes today

bad

sloonei insist that samu is obv town because and then argues i'm bad because and then argues mewtini is bad because all of it feels forced

syn's end of day looks AWFUL. if wilgy is bad then syn is the teammate.

wilgy's talk looked bad yesterday, EOD vote around him look bad, silence today looks bad. iunnlikeem

knowing [VOTE: Wilgy] aubergine's alignment feels like it gives us the most information

thoughts?

Wtf dude? U talk like u know that cat was a bad lynch, i didnt see u defending him or convincing me/others to do other thing with enough reasons.

Ahhh grammar

Also, the syn and wilgy parts are too vagues for being your principal scum candidates.

Can u elaborate more or you cant ?

@Syn the 3vs3 i insist

[Samusamu]

Now there is a scenario where all 3 are civs and this is just mafia trying to spread chaos, but that seems like a massive risk.

Well, your last post got my attention, who is mafia with wilgy for u?

[Sloonei]

I think I’m universally town read, and mafia can only kill me if they want to use their one-time shot. It’s a pretty sweet deal.

I love that this post came right before Made's

I don’t think that’s totally inconsequential. I’ll have more to say about Made + other events later.

[DrWilgy]

I want to hear more from @DrWilgy today, his Day 1 was quite minimal, and he was one of the three wagons.

What's your take today Wilgy? Why'd you suspect Syn yesterday?

Entry was sub par and I didn't feel that they were a hunter.

Hey wtf are u doing this game? I remember as town more active/ proactive.

Activity does not reflect my alignment. How busy I am affects my activity.

This is a jab but it is subtle. I don't know what to make of it.

[Sloonei]

I have not looked into it yet, but my instinct is to roll my eyes at the wilgy suspicion.

[Kylemii]

just a heads up I do not have energy for anything

[Kylemii]

this will never change

[Kylemii]

thank you for your time

[Syn]

just a heads up I do not have energy for anything

hey you can't use this, it's mine

[mewtini]

i'm checking in quickly to say that i saw some stuff was said to me, i think, but that i haven't had time/energy to respond; i'll get to it tomorrow. i'm pretty much not caught up on this phase

[Sloonei]

i'm checking in quickly to say that i saw some stuff was said to me, i think, but that i haven't had time/energy to respond; i'll get to it tomorrow. i'm pretty much not caught up on this phase

My question for you is this: what was your mindset at the end of Day 1?

Answer whenever you feel up to it, no hurry.

[Samusamu]

I want to hear more from @DrWilgy today, his Day 1 was quite minimal, and he was one of the three wagons.

What's your take today Wilgy? Why'd you suspect Syn yesterday?

Entry was sub par and I didn't feel that they were a hunter.

Hey wtf are u doing this game? I remember as town more active/ proactive.

Activity does not reflect my alignment. How busy I am affects my activity.

This is a jab but it is subtle. I don't know what to make of it.

Use your time correctly to let us know what your alignment is?

[Samusamu]

Also, @mewtini can u explain your last push in the eod?

Well, @mewtini , if u can, then respond this also with the last question sloonei did.

[mewtini]

i'm checking in quickly to say that i saw some stuff was said to me, i think, but that i haven't had time/energy to respond; i'll get to it tomorrow. i'm pretty much not caught up on this phase

My question for you is this: what was your mindset at the end of Day 1?

Answer whenever you feel up to it, no hurry.

mostly just lost lol, i didn't/don't feel like i have a great grasp of the gamestate nor a lot of various arguments for/against people

pretty discontented with the wagon options, i didn't really want to vote for anyone except made and it looked like that wasn't really an option by the time i got into the thread - and i wasn't thrilled about voting between wilgy/cat, i thought the cat wagon felt weird and maybe wolfdriven so i wanted to give them another day. granted i wanted sig to have another day moreso because i thought i could find him given more time so i guess the end result could have been worse