Bike [END]

[tutuu]

@TonyStarkPrime

[Hally]

God I'm loving Hally's catch up. I'm just reading along and I wanna yell "YESSSS. YES. YES. I AM NOT CRAZY. I AM NOT INSANE. I WAS ACTUALLY JUSTIFIED TO DO AND SAY EVERYTHING I DID AND SAID."

i got you toots *head pats*

[Hally]

wolves very rarely intentionally do wolfy things :P

Brass tacks, what you're saying is that you think tutuu's wolf game is skilled enough that she couldn't unintentionally have a shift when confronted with unexpected instant suspicion?

yes.

She's only had one wolf game here and you didn't play it. Where did you pick up that particular opinion?

I sat in bed and thought about it and just determined it was entirely implausible. It's not just the shift, that can be premeditated or spontaneous. It's the aggression that accompanies the shift. I just can't see it from Tutuu, or really any player who doesn't have an established town meta of aggression.

do you have any reads besides tutuu town? i feel like almost all of your content has been about that one read

epi town, lc town, jules town, nanook less town than people think, the m's not town but marmot is light green probably and guilty by association

can’t hate on this really

[TonyStarkPrime]

up to page four: tutuu town, guill town if radishes is wolf, marmot seems alright, sean probably fine too, tony sus but my read on him is not the best

so far i’ve got

town:
dizzy
tutuu
epi

town lean:
marmot
sean
guill

wolf:
tony
radishes

I'm happy to see your dizzy read since there is nothing about him so far that strikes me as mafia and I had already set him aside as someone not to vote today.

town

why?

it's a town mindset -- glad to see a shared town read. Wolves wouldn't go out of their way to find a shared town read like this, what's the point? They wouldn't pay attention to something like this. But a townie needs confirmations on town reads

[tutuu]

God I'm loving Hally's catch up. I'm just reading along and I wanna yell "YESSSS. YES. YES. I AM NOT CRAZY. I AM NOT INSANE. I WAS ACTUALLY JUSTIFIED TO DO AND SAY EVERYTHING I DID AND SAID."

i got you toots *head pats*

[TonyStarkPrime]

@TonyStarkPrime

tsp so good that he has tmi even when he's town

[Hally]

wolves very rarely intentionally do wolfy things :P

Brass tacks, what you're saying is that you think tutuu's wolf game is skilled enough that she couldn't unintentionally have a shift when confronted with unexpected instant suspicion?

yes.

Wrong, but I am still town. And it's a lie that I shifted it as a result of the suspicion.

ehhhh, it's hard to say conclusively from our pov that it's a lie

and hmm

it’s really not. it’s readily observable in the thread that tutuu started posting in this new tone from the very beginning, which was before she was scum read by anyone

this feels like gaslighting

literally read the first/fourth page of Tutuu's iso (the first 16 posts or so) and then read some middle page and tell me that they're tonally similar. they aren't. also we stopped


Tutuu's tonal shift, good band name?

but she got scum read for having a different, more robotic tone. that didn’t come after she was accused. it’s not like she was normal bouncy tutuu and then got scum read and became spock

[TonyStarkPrime]

Um. The tonal shift is what made me suspect or rather just thrown off in the first place. What do you mean that her posts are rand wolf from a player of her caliber? Why is tonal shift town?

It’s intentional, wolves don’t do that. The posts are rand wolf because I think a lot of them are scummy but that doesn’t matter because tutuu is town and thus all her posts are town

Wolves aren't intentional? that's a weird take

wolves very rarely intentionally do wolfy things :P

And this interaction, it was your first post at the time you allocated for you to be in the thread and it was towards Made.

Sorry if I'm wrong Tony but I'm full on tunneling you here.

ok fine

There’s also a bit of a problem in the “TSP is scum reading the same people as me and once he scumread his wolf partners so he’s probably a wolf” but we’ll leave that aside

can you explain why you scum read them? i don’t think you have yet

I looked at the list of players, thought "hmm, who on this list hasn't inspired me", and my eyes were drawn to the letter m. MR's iso is trending up but obviously lacking, and Made has had a few ? posts and I think a questionable voting record

[TonyStarkPrime]

Brass tacks, what you're saying is that you think tutuu's wolf game is skilled enough that she couldn't unintentionally have a shift when confronted with unexpected instant suspicion?

yes.

Wrong, but I am still town. And it's a lie that I shifted it as a result of the suspicion.

ehhhh, it's hard to say conclusively from our pov that it's a lie

and hmm

it’s really not. it’s readily observable in the thread that tutuu started posting in this new tone from the very beginning, which was before she was scum read by anyone

this feels like gaslighting

literally read the first/fourth page of Tutuu's iso (the first 16 posts or so) and then read some middle page and tell me that they're tonally similar. they aren't. also we stopped


Tutuu's tonal shift, good band name?

but she got scum read for having a different, more robotic tone. that didn’t come after she was accused. it’s not like she was normal bouncy tutuu and then got scum read and became spock

this doesn't answer the directive in the post.

[Hally]

Lmao I look forward to fulfilling my destiny as the Syndicate's designated D1.

radishy, come on. i know you can have more content than this on D1. the game has been going for 72 hours and you’ve done nothing but make empty posts. give us something here

[Hally]

Lmao I look forward to fulfilling my destiny as the Syndicate's designated D1.

You are clearly busy but the little time you have available you spend making jokes / sass. You appear to be reading the thread to some degree - do you not have any reads?

Oh look it's the same thing everyone always says about me.

“woe is me”

i don’t think this is how you would respond as a villager

[Hally]

epi and lc haven't gotten into a fight yet and are thus aligned and probably t/t

ftfy

so i’m a wolf?

[TonyStarkPrime]

wolfsiding, at least

[Hally]

up to page four: tutuu town, guill town if radishes is wolf, marmot seems alright, sean probably fine too, tony sus but my read on him is not the best

so far i’ve got

town:
dizzy
tutuu
epi

town lean:
marmot
sean
guill

wolf:
tony
radishes

I'm happy to see your dizzy read since there is nothing about him so far that strikes me as mafia and I had already set him aside as someone not to vote today.

town

why?

it's a town mindset -- glad to see a shared town read. Wolves wouldn't go out of their way to find a shared town read like this, what's the point? They wouldn't pay attention to something like this. But a townie needs confirmations on town reads

eh, i guess. i think it’s pretty fakable though

also this could be

► Show Spoiler

tmi

[Hally]

It’s intentional, wolves don’t do that. The posts are rand wolf because I think a lot of them are scummy but that doesn’t matter because tutuu is town and thus all her posts are town

Wolves aren't intentional? that's a weird take

wolves very rarely intentionally do wolfy things :P

And this interaction, it was your first post at the time you allocated for you to be in the thread and it was towards Made.

Sorry if I'm wrong Tony but I'm full on tunneling you here.

ok fine

There’s also a bit of a problem in the “TSP is scum reading the same people as me and once he scumread his wolf partners so he’s probably a wolf” but we’ll leave that aside

can you explain why you scum read them? i don’t think you have yet

I looked at the list of players, thought "hmm, who on this list hasn't inspired me", and my eyes were drawn to the letter m. MR's iso is trending up but obviously lacking, and Made has had a few ? posts and I think a questionable voting record

radishes is trending up? how? where? i don’t think we’re reading the same game

[TonyStarkPrime]

Wolves aren't intentional? that's a weird take

wolves very rarely intentionally do wolfy things :P

And this interaction, it was your first post at the time you allocated for you to be in the thread and it was towards Made.

Sorry if I'm wrong Tony but I'm full on tunneling you here.

ok fine

There’s also a bit of a problem in the “TSP is scum reading the same people as me and once he scumread his wolf partners so he’s probably a wolf” but we’ll leave that aside

can you explain why you scum read them? i don’t think you have yet

I looked at the list of players, thought "hmm, who on this list hasn't inspired me", and my eyes were drawn to the letter m. MR's iso is trending up but obviously lacking, and Made has had a few ? posts and I think a questionable voting record

radishes is trending up? how? where? i don’t think we’re reading the same game

im a fan of the first woe is me post and not the second woe is me post

[Hally]

yes.

Wrong, but I am still town. And it's a lie that I shifted it as a result of the suspicion.

ehhhh, it's hard to say conclusively from our pov that it's a lie

and hmm

it’s really not. it’s readily observable in the thread that tutuu started posting in this new tone from the very beginning, which was before she was scum read by anyone

this feels like gaslighting

literally read the first/fourth page of Tutuu's iso (the first 16 posts or so) and then read some middle page and tell me that they're tonally similar. they aren't. also we stopped


Tutuu's tonal shift, good band name?

but she got scum read for having a different, more robotic tone. that didn’t come after she was accused. it’s not like she was normal bouncy tutuu and then got scum read and became spock

this doesn't answer the directive in the post.

the directive in the post is irrelevant to the crux of what’s being discussed. yes, her tone got more frustrated after she got scum read. but it also started out different, which is why she was scum read in the first place

[Hally]

wolfsiding, at least

how’s that? i don’t think we have any major disagreements in our reads. i’m voting the person you’re voting. i fail to see how i could be wolf siding from your pov other than my read on you and i’m not even voting you

[tutuu]

KYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA u are all so cute tony with his little baldie putin head awww i just wanna rub the bald head it will make squeaky noises like squeeeeeeeee like marmot does i belly rub him and i tickle tickle tickle the marmot and he goes like SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE and he laughs and smiles and he blushes and then i kiss them and i then i huggggg long con and take off his Bane mask cuz he has trouble breathing and i give him a peck on the cheek and his eyes tear up cuz he is so busy being the villain and fighting superheroes that sometimes he just wants a huggg and i huggggggg hug hug hug and then hally falls into my hand like yuumi from league of legends ( cute cat, i dreamt about this tonight) and they just rest in my palm and i pat them and they're blue and squishy and like a jelly i just pat pat pat pat them and then i kiss julie and i kiss nookie and i kiss seanzie and i kiss dizzie and i kiss epi and i kiss guillo and i kiss made and i kiss radishie and i kiss jay and i kiss dunya and i kiss kiss kiss kiss kiss kiss iss kiss

[Master Radishes]

Lmao I look forward to fulfilling my destiny as the Syndicate's designated D1.

You are clearly busy but the little time you have available you spend making jokes / sass. You appear to be reading the thread to some degree - do you not have any reads?

Oh look it's the same thing everyone always says about me.

“woe is me”

i don’t think this is how you would respond as a villager

Okay.

[Guillotine]

Pretty sure we're all town and this is just a bastard game.

Maybe we're all wolves.

This is either high level WIFOM or you are not a wolf. I think high level WIFOM.

I was going to defend tutuu because I wuv her, but this

Nothing I have posted has been scummy. The scumreads on me are silly.

is exactly my thought process/reaction when I rand scum and get caught early for stupid reasons.

Tutuu pls don't be a wolf.

Why were you going to defend? Did you town read her before this post, if so why?
If not, was this an attempt to pocket her then?

Spoiler: show

I think this is pretty normal for Tutu tbh. It's pretty normal for a lot of players, myself included. They even tend to be good. =p

If this is the case then im gonna have a hard time playing here.
I’m not a trusting player. My style is you are guilty until proven otherwise.

I mean your name is 'Guillotine' so that attitude makes sense.

You'll be fine here, dw. People throw around early townreads but don't actually stick to them if they later find reason not to.

Also I'm giving you an early D0 townlean now.

I hosted a game where you were scum very recently. I’d be careful to try to do reverse psychology on me if I were you.

You made me realize something with that last sentence though. Im giving scum hints on how to manipulate me.

I don't even know which part of my post is supposed to be reverse psychology.

Because i said that i'm suspicious of people easily townreading me on D1, you read this and still proceeded to easily townread me. Why would you do so if you just saw my reluctance towards that behavior? Maybe because you are not afraid to be scum read by me as a result thus you must be town. Too WIFOM to be WIFOM, except maybe it is WIFOM.

That is my thought process. I must say though im a naturally paranoid and skeptical player, so i'm giving you time to show me if you are town or not.

Oh. It was a joke. You said you hated early townreads so I gave you one.

Hi I'm MR I'm suuuper funny.

Yah, i ain't laughing. What if you got caught in the WIFOM tell and this is just some lame excuse? You don't need to answer, it's a rethorical question.

Oh. It was a joke. You said you hated early townreads so I gave you one.

Hi I'm MR I'm suuuper funny.

I thought it was genuine.

Do you have any read on Guillo? He's been posting a lot.

Image giving D0 reads.

Spoiler: show

probs just town but 'super paranoid' is a sneaky scum attitude that gets towncleared so I'm not closing the book on that, considering he's playing it up a fair bit.

Imagine giving D0 reads indeed.

[Hally]

wolves very rarely intentionally do wolfy things :P

And this interaction, it was your first post at the time you allocated for you to be in the thread and it was towards Made.

Sorry if I'm wrong Tony but I'm full on tunneling you here.

ok fine

There’s also a bit of a problem in the “TSP is scum reading the same people as me and once he scumread his wolf partners so he’s probably a wolf” but we’ll leave that aside

can you explain why you scum read them? i don’t think you have yet

I looked at the list of players, thought "hmm, who on this list hasn't inspired me", and my eyes were drawn to the letter m. MR's iso is trending up but obviously lacking, and Made has had a few ? posts and I think a questionable voting record

radishes is trending up? how? where? i don’t think we’re reading the same game

im a fan of the first woe is me post and not the second woe is me post

how is that trending up?

[Hally]

Lmao I look forward to fulfilling my destiny as the Syndicate's designated D1.

You are clearly busy but the little time you have available you spend making jokes / sass. You appear to be reading the thread to some degree - do you not have any reads?

Oh look it's the same thing everyone always says about me.

“woe is me”

i don’t think this is how you would respond as a villager

Okay.

please do things

[TonyStarkPrime]

somewhat chicken and egg, I suppose. When I think of TUTUU'S TONAL SHIFT I don't consider the first few posts to really be indicative of that. If the TONAL SHIFT is "is this someone imitating Alison" or whatever, it's definitely not present at the beginning.

but okay

tutuu says that it's a lie that her tone shifted as a result of the suspicion

you say now "her tone got more frustrated after she got scum read"

Now I happen to think that Tutuu is correct and there is no causal relation but we cannot establish that this causal relation doesn't exist based on the data we have

[TonyStarkPrime]

And this interaction, it was your first post at the time you allocated for you to be in the thread and it was towards Made.

Sorry if I'm wrong Tony but I'm full on tunneling you here.

ok fine

There’s also a bit of a problem in the “TSP is scum reading the same people as me and once he scumread his wolf partners so he’s probably a wolf” but we’ll leave that aside

can you explain why you scum read them? i don’t think you have yet

I looked at the list of players, thought "hmm, who on this list hasn't inspired me", and my eyes were drawn to the letter m. MR's iso is trending up but obviously lacking, and Made has had a few ? posts and I think a questionable voting record

radishes is trending up? how? where? i don’t think we’re reading the same game

im a fan of the first woe is me post and not the second woe is me post

how is that trending up?

well I read the first one and thought "hmm that's trending up"

[Hally]

radishy, you know i can find you as a villager if you start doing things. i’m not bad at reading you. i’m searching for any reason you could be town and you’re giving me none. i don’t believe you as a villager has nothing to offer rn

[Hally]

ok fine

There’s also a bit of a problem in the “TSP is scum reading the same people as me and once he scumread his wolf partners so he’s probably a wolf” but we’ll leave that aside

can you explain why you scum read them? i don’t think you have yet

I looked at the list of players, thought "hmm, who on this list hasn't inspired me", and my eyes were drawn to the letter m. MR's iso is trending up but obviously lacking, and Made has had a few ? posts and I think a questionable voting record

radishes is trending up? how? where? i don’t think we’re reading the same game

im a fan of the first woe is me post and not the second woe is me post

how is that trending up?

well I read the first one and thought "hmm that's trending up"

right, and then the second one was bad and cancels it out, or no?

[TonyStarkPrime]

wolfsiding, at least

how’s that? i don’t think we have any major disagreements in our reads. i’m voting the person you’re voting. i fail to see how i could be wolf siding from your pov other than my read on you and i’m not even voting you

it's a meme I couldn't come up with anything better to put in the upper left

Now, on the lesser question of if I think Hally is a wolf: my initial impression was that your first few posts with relation to tutuu reminded me of dya/violet from SF1, and this was understandably concerning. However, I doubt that you're a wolf.

[TonyStarkPrime]

can you explain why you scum read them? i don’t think you have yet

I looked at the list of players, thought "hmm, who on this list hasn't inspired me", and my eyes were drawn to the letter m. MR's iso is trending up but obviously lacking, and Made has had a few ? posts and I think a questionable voting record

radishes is trending up? how? where? i don’t think we’re reading the same game

im a fan of the first woe is me post and not the second woe is me post

how is that trending up?

well I read the first one and thought "hmm that's trending up"

right, and then the second one was bad and cancels it out, or no?

Right but I hadn't read that one yet

[TonyStarkPrime]

KYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA u are all so cute tony with his little baldie putin head awww i just wanna rub the bald head it will make squeaky noises like squeeeeeeeee like marmot does i belly rub him and i tickle tickle tickle the marmot and he goes like SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE and he laughs and smiles and he blushes and then i kiss them and i then i huggggg long con and take off his Bane mask cuz he has trouble breathing and i give him a peck on the cheek and his eyes tear up cuz he is so busy being the villain and fighting superheroes that sometimes he just wants a huggg and i huggggggg hug hug hug and then hally falls into my hand like yuumi from league of legends ( cute cat, i dreamt about this tonight) and they just rest in my palm and i pat them and they're blue and squishy and like a jelly i just pat pat pat pat them and then i kiss julie and i kiss nookie and i kiss seanzie and i kiss dizzie and i kiss epi and i kiss guillo and i kiss made and i kiss radishie and i kiss jay and i kiss dunya and i kiss kiss kiss kiss kiss kiss iss kiss

no

[Guillotine]

Spoiler: show

The mechanical intrigue part is missing in the OP, keep it in mind and don't forget about it please.

My guess would be a Mafia Framer and Town Cop, or perhaps a Mafia role that invalidates player's votes (Jay likes roles that mess with vote powers) or perhaps it's a Cop 13er where all Town are unaware Millers and the Mafia are all Godfathers.

Jay is hosting and you think those things are possible smh

The mechanical intrigue part is missing in the OP, keep it in mind and don't forget about it please.

My guess would be a Mafia Framer and Town Cop, or perhaps a Mafia role that invalidates player's votes (Jay likes roles that mess with vote powers) or perhaps it's a Cop 13er where all Town are unaware Millers and the Mafia are all Godfathers.

I scum read you hard for this. So early and you are already trying to create confusion.

I don’t think this is a good read

No? Then explain this.

It’s not trying to create confusion it’s just wrong

Then explain why you are shaking your head off to her mechanics ridiculous speculation

Are you scumreading TonyStarkPrime here? This is kind of a weird interaction imo.

Yes, when i see contradicting thoughts I see it as signs of scum making fake pushes.

Is it a problem if i push Tony to find out if i'm right or not?

Why was the interaction weird to you?

[Hally]

wolfsiding, at least

how’s that? i don’t think we have any major disagreements in our reads. i’m voting the person you’re voting. i fail to see how i could be wolf siding from your pov other than my read on you and i’m not even voting you

it's a meme I couldn't come up with anything better to put in the upper left

Now, on the lesser question of if I think Hally is a wolf: my initial impression was that your first few posts with relation to tutuu reminded me of dya/violet from SF1, and this was understandably concerning. However, I doubt that you're a wolf.

more tmi

[Guillotine]

Im catching up guys. Bare with me

[Master Radishes]

Lmao I look forward to fulfilling my destiny as the Syndicate's designated D1.

You are clearly busy but the little time you have available you spend making jokes / sass. You appear to be reading the thread to some degree - do you not have any reads?

Oh look it's the same thing everyone always says about me.

“woe is me”

i don’t think this is how you would respond as a villager

Okay.

please do things

Maybe.

[Master Radishes]

radishy, you know i can find you as a villager if you start doing things. i’m not bad at reading you. i’m searching for any reason you could be town and you’re giving me none. i don’t believe you as a villager has nothing to offer rn

Either you're not as good as you think you are or you need to chill because it's only D1 and one usually can't solve the entire table in 36 hours.

[Hally]

Lmao I look forward to fulfilling my destiny as the Syndicate's designated D1.

You are clearly busy but the little time you have available you spend making jokes / sass. You appear to be reading the thread to some degree - do you not have any reads?

Oh look it's the same thing everyone always says about me.

“woe is me”

i don’t think this is how you would respond as a villager

Okay.

please do things

Maybe.

since when do you not want to solve as town? a lot of times you start slow but you have stuff by now. something will catch your eye that you just dive into and give thoughts on because the neurons in your radishy head can’t help but fire when you see something interesting. where is that spark, that curiosity, anything? i don’t see it. why don’t i see it?

[Hally]

radishy, you know i can find you as a villager if you start doing things. i’m not bad at reading you. i’m searching for any reason you could be town and you’re giving me none. i don’t believe you as a villager has nothing to offer rn

Either you're not as good as you think you are or you need to chill because it's only D1 and one usually can't solve the entire table in 36 hours.

the game started friday. you’ve had well over 48 hrs including D0. i’m not asking you to solve the entire table and implying that’s what i’m saying is silly. i mean, forget the whole list. you have’t even given one substantive read

[tutuu]

radishy, you know i can find you as a villager if you start doing things. i’m not bad at reading you. i’m searching for any reason you could be town and you’re giving me none. i don’t believe you as a villager has nothing to offer rn

Either you're not as good as you think you are or you need to chill because it's only D1 and one usually can't solve the entire table in 36 hours.

We had 72 hours not 36 and there should be close to a 1000 posts itt

[tutuu]

[VOTE: Made] aubergine

[Hally]

saying you can’t solve everyone D1 implies you’ve made a meaningful attempt at solving anyone and that you’re actually working towards getting reads but it’s too early to have too many. but you haven’t made a meaningful attempt. you haven’t given one read. it would be one thing if you tried and failed but you’re not even trying to solve the game

[Master Radishes]

Oh right. I wasn't counting D0.

Anyway, thank you for your words, everyone. They certainly were words. I will now continue to play at my own slow pace and post any reads as I feel so inclined to and not before.

[tutuu]

I'm feeling annoyed at Radish which from my experience means that I should townread him. I don't wanna do that but at least I will move off of him for now. I don't know if he is the type of wolf to play in a way that is aimed to annoy his accusers and nothing more, does anyone know? It's not usually a common wolf playstyle.

[Hally]

Oh right. I wasn't counting D0.

Anyway, thank you for your words, everyone. They certainly were words. I will now continue to play at my own slow pace and post any reads as I feel so inclined to and not before.

do you genuinely have no thoughts whatsoever on the game? not even half formed ones?

[Master Radishes]

saying you can’t solve everyone D1 implies you’ve made a meaningful attempt at solving anyone and that you’re actually working towards getting reads but it’s too early to have too many. but you haven’t made a meaningful attempt. you haven’t given one read. it would be one thing if you tried and failed but you’re not even trying to solve the game

I meant you, or more generally anyone, likely can't solve the entire table in one round. You certainly haven't solved me yet.

So go look elsewhere and come back to me when the deadline approaches and you don't know where else to land.

[Hally]

I'm feeling annoyed at Radish which from my experience means that I should townread him. I don't wanna do that but at least I will move off of him for now. I don't know if he is the type of wolf to play in a way that is aimed to annoy his accusers and nothing more, does anyone know? It's not usually a common wolf playstyle.

my current struggle tbh

[Master Radishes]

Oh right. I wasn't counting D0.

Anyway, thank you for your words, everyone. They certainly were words. I will now continue to play at my own slow pace and post any reads as I feel so inclined to and not before.

do you genuinely have no thoughts whatsoever on the game? not even half formed ones?

I never claimed that.

[Master Radishes]

I'm feeling annoyed at Radish which from my experience means that I should townread him.

[tutuu]

Let's vote Made imo.

[Hally]

Oh right. I wasn't counting D0.

Anyway, thank you for your words, everyone. They certainly were words. I will now continue to play at my own slow pace and post any reads as I feel so inclined to and not before.

do you genuinely have no thoughts whatsoever on the game? not even half formed ones?

I never claimed that.

so you have them but are deliberately not posting them because...?

[Hally]

Let's vote Made imo.

not against this