Bike [END]

[Long Con]

I am awake but haven't started looking at individual people yet. I echo the thoughts about Martin, I feel bad for him because my vote there is based on Guillo's behavior and there is nothing he can do about that. I'm still happy with my vote there at this point.

My worst fear is that LC or even Epi could be bad. I've played with them both for years and I know how tricky they are to read. I didn't see Epi say how he felt about LC - did anyone else see that? I'm not wild about Epi's vote as I look at it this morning, it feels OMGUS. I will take a look at Sean today but like I said yesterday as he has posted I've felt good about him.

I'll be in and out today a good bit and should be here at EOD. Don't forget all, EOD is before 6, it's like 5:47 pm est.

Epi has voted me but unvoted with no communication about any of it. That's basically what I remember about his treatment of me.

[Long Con]

I'm /very/ concerned that this game is going to go like abdimals did where the chops all seem predestined and largely on obvious townies who need to be chopped to rid the poe of them

do you think martin is an obvious townie? or who would you chop instead? you’re voting long con. can you talk to me about that?

I sorta empathize with martin's position. it's very easy for me to think of him as town. I don't think he is for sure, there are a whole lot of reasons to think otherwise in this gamestate. I think Long Con is a bit of a weird case. He's generally on target, but seems to me like the most likely wolf outside of the martin/mr duo. Just seems like the best vote for me to try to keep the game from staying stuck.

Chopping me, while often a fun pasttime, will not do anything to "unstick" the gamestate.

[Marmot]

LC = let's chop

[Long Con]

Marmot = talking enough but saying nothing to solve the game

[Long Con]

Just glancing at your Day 2 posts... just looking for an opinion or some substance

[Long Con]

Oh damn, I wish I had made an acronym now

[Marmot]

Just glancing at your Day 2 posts... just looking for an opinion or some substance

Tell me if you find anything

[Long Con]

Just glancing at your Day 2 posts... just looking for an opinion or some substance

Tell me if you find anything

No, I meant I already did... which led me to the thing I just posted about you.

[Marmot]

Mafia begins with the letters MA.

Made begins with the letters MA.

Obviously we chop Martin, Master Radishes, and Marmot next right?

[Long Con]

'Marmot' is closest to 'Made' in alphabetical order. You're next, bro!

[Marmot]

Nooooooooooooo

[Marmot]

Stance is my middle name this game. Normally it's mayhem

[Long Con]

Stance is my middle name this game. Normally it's mayhem

"No-Stance" would be your middle name in the situation I'm exposing.

[Marmot]

patiently waits for a reason to file for another name change

[Marmot]

Why does LC have a vote (looking at you TSP)

[TonyStarkPrime]

I'm /very/ concerned that this game is going to go like abdimals did where the chops all seem predestined and largely on obvious townies who need to be chopped to rid the poe of them

do you think martin is an obvious townie? or who would you chop instead? you’re voting long con. can you talk to me about that?

I sorta empathize with martin's position. it's very easy for me to think of him as town. I don't think he is for sure, there are a whole lot of reasons to think otherwise in this gamestate. I think Long Con is a bit of a weird case. He's generally on target, but seems to me like the most likely wolf outside of the martin/mr duo. Just seems like the best vote for me to try to keep the game from staying stuck.

Chopping me, while often a fun pasttime, will not do anything to "unstick" the gamestate.

It reminds me of my childhood days gone by, singing around the campfire, chopping long con

[TonyStarkPrime]

Why does LC have a vote (looking at you TSP)

I dont know I don’t know anything

[TonyStarkPrime]

if Martin doesn’t show up and solve the game here I’m voting for him

[Marmot]

More like log con

[Seanzie]

LC and MR haven't voted yet and I don't particularly like that.

It also looks like LC is the only one who seems to agree with me about Epi, and one of my strong townreads has discouraged me there, so I'mma drop it for now since it doesn't look viable. I'm watching you though Epi!

[VOTE: MartinGG99] aubergine

[Hally]

How am I a status quo defender?

well tony being in the poe is the status quo. i’ve been trying to take him out and you’ve been trying to prevent him from being cleared, meaning that in that sense at least you’re defending the status quo

[Long Con]

Wow, that vote spread surprised me!

if Martin doesn’t show up and solve the game here I’m voting for him

So what? He's already the only current contender. You think your vote will have any effect on him?

[Marmot]

LC and MR haven't voted yet and I don't particularly like that.

It also looks like LC is the only one who seems to agree with me about Epi, and one of my strong townreads has discouraged me there, so I'mma drop it for now since it doesn't look viable. I'm watching you though Epi!

[VOTE: MartinGG99] aubergine

What am I, chopped Marmot?

[Long Con]

How am I a status quo defender?

well tony being in the poe is the status quo. i’ve been trying to take him out and you’ve been trying to prevent him from being cleared, meaning that in that sense at least you’re defending the status quo

I thought the current status quo was that Tony is likely town due to assumption of being vig. I do know that the very popular tutuu has been aggressively ignoring that factor due to her (probably wise) insistence that we ignore mechanical factors due to the likelihood of getting tricked by unknown factors.

[Long Con]

LC and MR haven't voted yet and I don't particularly like that.

It also looks like LC is the only one who seems to agree with me about Epi, and one of my strong townreads has discouraged me there, so I'mma drop it for now since it doesn't look viable. I'm watching you though Epi!

[VOTE: MartinGG99] aubergine

What am I, chopped Marmot?

You are pushing Epi as town. That would be a disagreement.

[Marmot]

[Hally]

lc, why aren’t you voting anyone? who’s bad? who’s good? i feel like most of your posts don’t really lead anywhere atm

[Long Con]

... aren't you?

[Hally]

How am I a status quo defender?

well tony being in the poe is the status quo. i’ve been trying to take him out and you’ve been trying to prevent him from being cleared, meaning that in that sense at least you’re defending the status quo

I thought the current status quo was that Tony is likely town due to assumption of being vig. I do know that the very popular tutuu has been aggressively ignoring that factor due to her (probably wise) insistence that we ignore mechanical factors due to the likelihood of getting tricked by unknown factors.

oh, yeah. i guess tony being in the poe WAS the status quo. and marmot seems like he wants it to stay that way. that’s probably more accurate

[Marmot]

Nooo, I made a case why I think he's teammate compatible with Made and voted him earlier today lol

[Hally]

LC and MR haven't voted yet and I don't particularly like that.

It also looks like LC is the only one who seems to agree with me about Epi, and one of my strong townreads has discouraged me there, so I'mma drop it for now since it doesn't look viable. I'm watching you though Epi!

[VOTE: MartinGG99] aubergine

What am I, chopped Marmot?

You are pushing Epi as town. That would be a disagreement.

why is epi not town? you say he’s not a busser, but you think this time was the exception?

[Long Con]

lc, why aren’t you voting anyone? who’s bad? who’s good? i feel like most of your posts don’t really lead anywhere atm

I went to vote and then saw the state of the poll. I don't feel like my vote would do much to the situation. I think a Martin yeet is probably good, I would vote for Radish or Epi as well.

[Hally]

lc, why aren’t you voting anyone? who’s bad? who’s good? i feel like most of your posts don’t really lead anywhere atm

I went to vote and then saw the state of the poll. I don't feel like my vote would do much to the situation. I think a Martin yeet is probably good, I would vote for Radish or Epi as well.

ok

[Seanzie]

Nooo, I made a case why I think he's teammate compatible with Made and voted him earlier today lol

Sorry, I forgot about that. It is early and I have not had enough coffee yet.

[Hally]

what’s the case on epi again? just that he voted made without explaining it? and that makes them teammate compatible?

[Marmot]

I did conclude Epi was town after iso'ing Made. However, I came to a different conclusion after I iso'd Epi.

[Marmot]

what’s the case on epi again? just that he voted made without explaining it? and that makes them teammate compatible?

All of his other interactions with Made were fluffy and devoid of game-related content

[Hally]

Nooo, I made a case why I think he's teammate compatible with Made and voted him earlier today lol

Sorry, I forgot about that. It is early and I have not had enough coffee yet.

oh god

oh no

please tell me i’m not seeing this

is this an honest to goodness coffee tell?!

[Hally]

that’s it sean, you must die

[Long Con]

LC and MR haven't voted yet and I don't particularly like that.

It also looks like LC is the only one who seems to agree with me about Epi, and one of my strong townreads has discouraged me there, so I'mma drop it for now since it doesn't look viable. I'm watching you though Epi!

[VOTE: MartinGG99] aubergine

What am I, chopped Marmot?

You are pushing Epi as town. That would be a disagreement.

why is epi not town? you say he’s not a busser, but you think this time was the exception?

There are a few exceptions, so this wouldn't be *the* exception. When I look at Epi's posts, they're pretty bad, and more than once it's been "oh yeah, but he doesn't like bussing." It's only one factor, not a religion. He's not anti-bussing like Glorfindel is anti-lying. And none of that means Epi never places a final vote on a teammate. Maybe he just didn't expect the Made wagon to take off. Maybe he didn't actually come back online until after the chop. MAybe he did come back at the last minute and thought "it will be very suspicious if I move my vote now!"

[Marmot]

That said, I still think the crash and burn mafia team makes the most sense. If that's not the mafia team, I do think we look at Epi and Tony next

Martin > Radish > Epi > Tony is my preferred order of yeet

[Seanzie]

lc, why aren’t you voting anyone? who’s bad? who’s good? i feel like most of your posts don’t really lead anywhere atm

I went to vote and then saw the state of the poll. I don't feel like my vote would do much to the situation. I think a Martin yeet is probably good, I would vote for Radish or Epi as well.

When did you go to vote? You could have joined me on Epi or voted MR if you didn't want to join the large Martin wagon.

Your vote does even less not on anyone.

[Seanzie]

Nooo, I made a case why I think he's teammate compatible with Made and voted him earlier today lol

Sorry, I forgot about that. It is early and I have not had enough coffee yet.

oh god

oh no

please tell me i’m not seeing this

is this an honest to goodness coffee tell?!

What is a coffee tell, other than me telling you that I am groggy?

[Hally]

what’s the case on epi again? just that he voted made without explaining it? and that makes them teammate compatible?

All of his other interactions with Made were fluffy and devoid of game-related content

i’m not sure why that’s supposed to make him a wolf. i’m sure i could find the same is true about several other pairs of players on D1 who aren’t wolves together. i also feel like epi is a good enough wolf to not be caught by ignoring his teammates. that’s a rookie mistake

but maybe i should look it over again

[Long Con]

what’s the case on epi again? just that he voted made without explaining it? and that makes them teammate compatible?

He's not trying to solve. His votes are unsupported with reasons and his posts have unrepentantly gibberish conclusions. Ignoring the lore that Epi never busses, what reasons are there to read him as town?

[VOTE: epi] aubergine there, a vote so everyone is more comfortable.

[Seanzie]

[VOTE: Epignosis] aubergine

[Hally]

LC and MR haven't voted yet and I don't particularly like that.

It also looks like LC is the only one who seems to agree with me about Epi, and one of my strong townreads has discouraged me there, so I'mma drop it for now since it doesn't look viable. I'm watching you though Epi!

[VOTE: MartinGG99] aubergine

What am I, chopped Marmot?

You are pushing Epi as town. That would be a disagreement.

why is epi not town? you say he’s not a busser, but you think this time was the exception?

There are a few exceptions, so this wouldn't be *the* exception. When I look at Epi's posts, they're pretty bad, and more than once it's been "oh yeah, but he doesn't like bussing." It's only one factor, not a religion. He's not anti-bussing like Glorfindel is anti-lying. And none of that means Epi never places a final vote on a teammate. Maybe he just didn't expect the Made wagon to take off. Maybe he didn't actually come back online until after the chop. MAybe he did come back at the last minute and thought "it will be very suspicious if I move my vote now!"

why are epi’s posts bad? what’s bad about them? i feel like i’m not seeing it because to me they seem like standard town!epi posts. am i missing something?

[Long Con]

lc, why aren’t you voting anyone? who’s bad? who’s good? i feel like most of your posts don’t really lead anywhere atm

I went to vote and then saw the state of the poll. I don't feel like my vote would do much to the situation. I think a Martin yeet is probably good, I would vote for Radish or Epi as well.

When did you go to vote? You could have joined me on Epi or voted MR if you didn't want to join the large Martin wagon.

Your vote does even less not on anyone.

I just went to vote.

[Hally]

Nooo, I made a case why I think he's teammate compatible with Made and voted him earlier today lol

Sorry, I forgot about that. It is early and I have not had enough coffee yet.

oh god

oh no

please tell me i’m not seeing this

is this an honest to goodness coffee tell?!

What is a coffee tell, other than me telling you that I am groggy?

are you even a PerC’er if you don’t know the coffee tell?

[Seanzie]

LC and MR haven't voted yet and I don't particularly like that.

It also looks like LC is the only one who seems to agree with me about Epi, and one of my strong townreads has discouraged me there, so I'mma drop it for now since it doesn't look viable. I'm watching you though Epi!

[VOTE: MartinGG99] aubergine

What am I, chopped Marmot?

You are pushing Epi as town. That would be a disagreement.

why is epi not town? you say he’s not a busser, but you think this time was the exception?

There are a few exceptions, so this wouldn't be *the* exception. When I look at Epi's posts, they're pretty bad, and more than once it's been "oh yeah, but he doesn't like bussing." It's only one factor, not a religion. He's not anti-bussing like Glorfindel is anti-lying. And none of that means Epi never places a final vote on a teammate. Maybe he just didn't expect the Made wagon to take off. Maybe he didn't actually come back online until after the chop. MAybe he did come back at the last minute and thought "it will be very suspicious if I move my vote now!"

why are epi’s posts bad? what’s bad about them? i feel like i’m not seeing it because to me they seem like standard town!epi posts. am i missing something?

Hally, how do you tell the difference between Town!Epi and Scum!Epi? Do you have tells you look for?