Bread Mafia [Game Over]

[Marmot]

Has a “PSYCHE UR ALL TOWN” game ever happened on this site?

no, bless the lawd

marmot ain’t do that

[nutella]

Except for Nut, she's just town, sorry about your n1 death.

i'm so ready

[MacDougall]

At risk of target painting here is where I am at. I should probs point out that my reads are probably a little bit ... erm ... polarised I guess is the word. In that I have an easy world (LC, Grogu and co) and a hard world (Alison and who cares) that probably don't cross pollinate. At first I thought that all my homies were just outing themselves as town but the more I dwell and the more I read the more I worry that they have just levelled so much that I shouldn't really ever trust that kinda shit. Except for Nut, she's just town, sorry about your n1 death.

Alison: To borrow a term, Alison has town "markers" that sadly she is more than capable of "passing" as mafia and does not struggle to do so at all. To me Alison is revealed as mafia when she has to powerwolf. I believe I have seen some instances of her shifting into illogical positions briefly for the benefit of the mafia. I could be paranoid. I have her as a scumlean.

DaughterofOmega: I have no meta here obviously. I cannot immediately equate her playstyle to anyone else to apply like meta. However her threadfeel has been terse and a little bit negative (not in a bad way, she just feels negative) and that PROBABLY would be a meta tell if I knew anything about her but I do not. Applying general standards to her play, I don't feel like she has passed through any range "markers" or anything so she is POE. I have concerns about her handling from other players that lean into this tinfoil. Doesn't hurt that she seems to think I am mafia for some reason. Scumlean.

DKKoba: Kind of the inverse of DOO. I also have no meta here but they feel like an easy read tbh (sorry). Koba has this lighthearted threadfeel and air of confusion. I don't sense that there is any TMI or anything here. They just seem to be floating through the game au naturale. I have this person as a town lean.

Ellie: A little bit more of a townie threadfeel than Alison but I don't like their analysis and their choice of pushes. I have sensed no townie mindset in their reads and they lack solviness/feel more performative. Scumlean.

Esooa: I worry about her. I don't think she is out of her scumrange. I'm not sure that she ever will get out of her scumrange. Esooa needs to generate results and push onto mafia for me to issue her with a solid townread. I would say townlean though.

Grogu: Derp. I guess just like obvious mafia probably I dunno. I hate analysing slots like these because they just self resolve. Scum.

JaggedJimmyJay: I have agreed with most of Jay's takes. I have not sensed any effort from him to alter the course of things and the game has felt townsided so far. I reserve judgement a little because he kinda FEELS a bit like scum Jay (more light hearted, chill than usual) but the information says otherwise at this time. Town.

Long Con: Is in his scum range. Looks like scum LC. Getting up to 7 voters early in the day on day 1 is usually a major sign it's a townie though. Hectic spew off that wagon formation if this does flip mafia. Scum.

Mac: Hot hands sex man.

Made: I am gonna say town and contradict myself from a few mins ago. I think that his comment about me thinking he's in his scumrange was townie and probably townie enough to flip my read. Made feels scummy but keeps townslipping so that is probably... actually no that is very towny. Town.

Michelle: I think she is town unless she is part of a third mafia world where I haven't actually gotten to. I feel like getting stroppy and telling Esooa to behave is very towny lol.

Nook: Ehhhhoooo I think town. We'll see. Nah he's town. He said a thing or two that makes him just town. I don't like, read Nook on his pushes or whatever cuz he (like me) is super okay with being wrong and so if he has reads that differ to mine it means fuck all. His mindset is just there as town. He answered me a few times with towny answers. It's just town Nook again.

Nut: Old school mindmeld as fuck with this one. It's impossible for us to mindmeld if she is mafia. Literally lock town. If she is mafia I will I dunno do something drastic and embarrassing for everyone's amusement.

SPF: I was toddling along getting scumvibes in catch up and then I was like "wait I did this before then she was town" and then she suddenly was magically town. Then someone (I think it was Koba) was like "if you think SPF is mafia day 1 flip ur read it's magic" and I was like hey fuck that's so so true. Town.

Tutuu: See Esooa read. Reserved townlean.

Knock yourselves out kids.

@nutella which of these reads is glaringly, stunningly incorrect to you?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

tutuu town
Mac town
nutella town
SPF town
Michelle town
DkKoba town
Esooa town

If this is correct it’s a solve

the part I like is that alison isn't in this

Yeah she and Nanook kinda fell off a cliff

I feel pretty good about all of those. I defer to SPF on Esooa doubts; I’d call her take reasonable

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Has anyone else experienced Nanook tinfoil

yes actually, but i concluded that there's no way for me to realistically catch him today if that's the case

fair

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME why do you think your reads have been so against-the-grain so far?

Not sure! Could be cause I’m wrong, could be cause the game is harder than it seems, too early to really tell imo. Need some flips!

It probably also has to do with my unwillingness to commit to a jay or alison read D1

[nutella]

I believe I have seen some instances of her shifting into illogical positions briefly for the benefit of the mafia.

yeah I think I have to pay pretty close attention to which of her takes could potentially be shoved in to push an agenda in order to really solve her

[MacDougall]

in the Ellie section it's meant to say than DOO not than Alison fwiw

[nutella]

ok so having finished mac's long reads post, yeah my thoughts line up pretty smoothly with his. like down to the two worlds of LC/Grogu/+1 or Alison/Ellie/+1 (though I'm actually also not discounting a possibility ellie and lc are both w tbhtbh)

[JaggedJimmyJay]

It probably also has to do with my unwillingness to commit to a jay or alison read D1

I accept your unbridled terror

[tutuu]

I give up on my search of finding the 7th LC voter.

[Made]

I give up on my search of finding the 7th LC voter.

Did you count me?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I’ve no major gripes with Mac’s reads. Overall they’re in line with my own albeit a bit kinder

[nutella]

At risk of target painting here is where I am at. I should probs point out that my reads are probably a little bit ... erm ... polarised I guess is the word. In that I have an easy world (LC, Grogu and co) and a hard world (Alison and who cares) that probably don't cross pollinate. At first I thought that all my homies were just outing themselves as town but the more I dwell and the more I read the more I worry that they have just levelled so much that I shouldn't really ever trust that kinda shit. Except for Nut, she's just town, sorry about your n1 death.

Alison: To borrow a term, Alison has town "markers" that sadly she is more than capable of "passing" as mafia and does not struggle to do so at all. To me Alison is revealed as mafia when she has to powerwolf. I believe I have seen some instances of her shifting into illogical positions briefly for the benefit of the mafia. I could be paranoid. I have her as a scumlean.

DaughterofOmega: I have no meta here obviously. I cannot immediately equate her playstyle to anyone else to apply like meta. However her threadfeel has been terse and a little bit negative (not in a bad way, she just feels negative) and that PROBABLY would be a meta tell if I knew anything about her but I do not. Applying general standards to her play, I don't feel like she has passed through any range "markers" or anything so she is POE. I have concerns about her handling from other players that lean into this tinfoil. Doesn't hurt that she seems to think I am mafia for some reason. Scumlean.

DKKoba: Kind of the inverse of DOO. I also have no meta here but they feel like an easy read tbh (sorry). Koba has this lighthearted threadfeel and air of confusion. I don't sense that there is any TMI or anything here. They just seem to be floating through the game au naturale. I have this person as a town lean.

Ellie: A little bit more of a townie threadfeel than Alison but I don't like their analysis and their choice of pushes. I have sensed no townie mindset in their reads and they lack solviness/feel more performative. Scumlean.

Esooa: I worry about her. I don't think she is out of her scumrange. I'm not sure that she ever will get out of her scumrange. Esooa needs to generate results and push onto mafia for me to issue her with a solid townread. I would say townlean though.

Grogu: Derp. I guess just like obvious mafia probably I dunno. I hate analysing slots like these because they just self resolve. Scum.

JaggedJimmyJay: I have agreed with most of Jay's takes. I have not sensed any effort from him to alter the course of things and the game has felt townsided so far. I reserve judgement a little because he kinda FEELS a bit like scum Jay (more light hearted, chill than usual) but the information says otherwise at this time. Town.

Long Con: Is in his scum range. Looks like scum LC. Getting up to 7 voters early in the day on day 1 is usually a major sign it's a townie though. Hectic spew off that wagon formation if this does flip mafia. Scum.

Mac: Hot hands sex man.

Made: I am gonna say town and contradict myself from a few mins ago. I think that his comment about me thinking he's in his scumrange was townie and probably townie enough to flip my read. Made feels scummy but keeps townslipping so that is probably... actually no that is very towny. Town.

Michelle: I think she is town unless she is part of a third mafia world where I haven't actually gotten to. I feel like getting stroppy and telling Esooa to behave is very towny lol.

Nook: Ehhhhoooo I think town. We'll see. Nah he's town. He said a thing or two that makes him just town. I don't like, read Nook on his pushes or whatever cuz he (like me) is super okay with being wrong and so if he has reads that differ to mine it means fuck all. His mindset is just there as town. He answered me a few times with towny answers. It's just town Nook again.

Nut: Old school mindmeld as fuck with this one. It's impossible for us to mindmeld if she is mafia. Literally lock town. If she is mafia I will I dunno do something drastic and embarrassing for everyone's amusement.

SPF: I was toddling along getting scumvibes in catch up and then I was like "wait I did this before then she was town" and then she suddenly was magically town. Then someone (I think it was Koba) was like "if you think SPF is mafia day 1 flip ur read it's magic" and I was like hey fuck that's so so true. Town.

Tutuu: See Esooa read. Reserved townlean.

Knock yourselves out kids.

@nutella which of these reads is glaringly, stunningly incorrect to you?

none lol. obv the one i disagree most on is omega, but it's not strong

we vibin fam

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I give up on my search of finding the 7th LC voter.

Calling votes is super good

[MacDougall]

ok so having finished mac's long reads post, yeah my thoughts line up pretty smoothly with his. like down to the two worlds of LC/Grogu/+1 or Alison/Ellie/+1 (though I'm actually also not discounting a possibility ellie and lc are both w tbhtbh)

I'll tell you what. I think that the only way you don't die n1 is if Alison is mafia. Guess who dies in that world?

[tutuu]

I give up on my search of finding the 7th LC voter.

Did you count me?

I dunno. Ask Mac.

I think in future games I host I will not use the poll at all. I will simply post routine vote counts, the old school way. I think keeping track of vote counts and vote shifting is an integral part of Mafia, and the way people have to do it currently is just try to remember / ISO people. The host putting in 5% more effort would save the players 95% effort.

[nutella]

i mean i guess alison too bc i'm just like, of two minds about her. like i'm not going after her for a few days anyway

[nutella]

ok so having finished mac's long reads post, yeah my thoughts line up pretty smoothly with his. like down to the two worlds of LC/Grogu/+1 or Alison/Ellie/+1 (though I'm actually also not discounting a possibility ellie and lc are both w tbhtbh)

I'll tell you what. I think that the only way you don't die n1 is if Alison is mafia. Guess who dies in that world?

man you prob shouldnt be saying this kinda shit lol

[tutuu]

I give up on my search of finding the 7th LC voter.

Calling votes is super good

lmao <3

[MacDougall]

I am glad Jay and Nutella both agree that I am the hot hands sex man.

[MacDougall]

ok so having finished mac's long reads post, yeah my thoughts line up pretty smoothly with his. like down to the two worlds of LC/Grogu/+1 or Alison/Ellie/+1 (though I'm actually also not discounting a possibility ellie and lc are both w tbhtbh)

I'll tell you what. I think that the only way you don't die n1 is if Alison is mafia. Guess who dies in that world?

man you prob shouldnt be saying this kinda shit lol

Eh Alison isn't the kind of person to worry about this lol.

[nutella]

I give up on my search of finding the 7th LC voter.

wHeRe dId ThE OtHeR dOlLaR bIlL gO

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I am glad Jay and Nutella both agree that I am the hot hands sex man.

Who could disagree with that it’s objectively true

[EllieDelight]

hey made what are you better at Scum or Town?
Would you mind if i looked at some old games as both?
Thank you:)

[MacDougall]

Esooa gives me pause tbh. Pause indeed. I'm on pause because of Esooa. Actually Esooa might be mafia let me ISO this.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I feel myself falling into Arrogant Jay. I think my solve was right and that I’m great.

[nutella]

I give up on my search of finding the 7th LC voter.

Did you count me?

I dunno. Ask Mac.

I think in future games I host I will not use the poll at all. I will simply post routine vote counts, the old school way. I think keeping track of vote counts and vote shifting is an integral part of Mafia, and the way people have to do it currently is just try to remember / ISO people. The host putting in 5% more effort would save the players 95% effort.

Marmot and boo are going to build a modbot analogue for us it's going to be amazing dw patpat

[tutuu]

I give up on my search of finding the 7th LC voter.

wHeRe dId ThE OtHeR dOlLaR bIlL gO

I don't get the meme I'm sorry

I'm sad cuz we both have a similar sense of humor and appreciate each other's humor a lot. I'll try to do better for the next reference.

[Made]

Don’t think I’m moving my vote from LC at this point. Don’t really agree with Mac’s read if Ellie. Lack of solvingness but good thread feel is what I’d expect from a new to mafia civvie.

[MacDougall]

i dont care about the slip but i shamelessly and unabashedly omgus long con for saying he got bad vibes from me

yes queen

it's yas queen. you are outed mafia.

[Marmot]

I give up on my search of finding the 7th LC voter.

Did you count me?

I dunno. Ask Mac.

I think in future games I host I will not use the poll at all. I will simply post routine vote counts, the old school way. I think keeping track of vote counts and vote shifting is an integral part of Mafia, and the way people have to do it currently is just try to remember / ISO people. The host putting in 5% more effort would save the players 95% effort.

Marmot and boo are going to build a modbot analogue for us it's going to be amazing dw patpat

^^

[MacDougall]

Don’t think I’m moving my vote from LC at this point. Don’t really agree with Mac’s read if Ellie. Lack of solvingness but good thread feel is what I’d expect from a new to mafia civvie.

Read my read on you.

[tutuu]

I give up on my search of finding the 7th LC voter.

Did you count me?

I dunno. Ask Mac.

I think in future games I host I will not use the poll at all. I will simply post routine vote counts, the old school way. I think keeping track of vote counts and vote shifting is an integral part of Mafia, and the way people have to do it currently is just try to remember / ISO people. The host putting in 5% more effort would save the players 95% effort.

Marmot and boo are going to build a modbot analogue for us it's going to be amazing dw patpat

Awww ty for the headpat

[MacDougall]

I feel myself falling into Arrogant Jay. I think my solve was right and that I’m great.

Allow me to introduce Esooa tinfoil.

[nutella]

Esooa gives me pause tbh. Pause indeed. I'm on pause because of Esooa. Actually Esooa might be mafia let me ISO this.

i should reevaluate her at some point but im lazy so i'll just put it off and die n1 and not have to worry about it

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I feel myself falling into Arrogant Jay. I think my solve was right and that I’m great.

Allow me to introduce Esooa tinfoil.

pls do

[Made]

Don’t think I’m moving my vote from LC at this point. Don’t really agree with Mac’s read if Ellie. Lack of solvingness but good thread feel is what I’d expect from a new to mafia civvie.

Read my read on you.

Okay, I did. Now what?

[nutella]

I give up on my search of finding the 7th LC voter.

wHeRe dId ThE OtHeR dOlLaR bIlL gO

I don't get the meme I'm sorry

I'm sad cuz we both have a similar sense of humor and appreciate each other's humor a lot. I'll try to do better for the next reference.

it's a famous riddle the missing dollar problem

[tutuu]

Oh right. I remember. Eso was the 7th LC voter. If this is still relevant for you @MacDougall

[MacDougall]

Oh right. I remember. Eso was the 7th LC voter. If this is still relevant for you @MacDougall

I mean. It does make Made's point better, especially since I am ironically in the middle of convincing myself she is mafia.

[tutuu]

Three friends have a nice meal together, and the bill is $25

The three friends pay $10 each, which the waiter gives to the Cashier

The Cashier hands back $5 to the Waiter

But the Waiter can't split $5 three ways, so he gives the friends one dollar each and keeps 2 dollars as a tip.

They all paid $10 and got $1 back. $10-$1 = $9

There were three of them 3 X $9 = $27

If they paid $27 and the waiter kept $2: $27+$2=$29

Where did the other dollar go? $30 - $1 = $29

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Okay, let me think.

[MacDougall]

Don’t think I’m moving my vote from LC at this point. Don’t really agree with Mac’s read if Ellie. Lack of solvingness but good thread feel is what I’d expect from a new to mafia civvie.

Read my read on you.

Okay, I did. Now what?

I dunno. I thought it was a neat paradox.

[Michelle]

When on earth a player like LC has such a huge wagon on day 1 of a game and one who claimed wolf like me and is supected by everyone and their mother has just one vote?
Probably he scum slipped, but i am not sold on that, but keeping all day a single wagon is antitown iykwim

And the game has few mafia monsters, none of them stressed by such thing.
I will try to read and see what happened.

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Who would you like to bake today?
Poll runs till Fri Jan 22, 2021 5:00 am
Please note that if you vote, your vote will be visible.

You may select 1 option


Alison
0
No votes
Voters: None
DaughterOfOmega
0
No votes
Voters: None
DkKoba
0
No votes
Voters: None
EllieDelight
1
8%
Voters: Long Con
Esooa
0
No votes
Voters: None
Grogu
0
No votes
Voters: None
JaggedJimmyJay
1
8%
Voters: tutuu
Long Con
7
54%
Voters: MacDougall, nutella, Made, EllieDelight, Alison, staypositivefriend, Esooa
MacDougall
0
No votes
Voters: None
Made
1
8%
Voters: NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Michelle
1
8%
Voters: DkKoba
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
0
No votes
Voters: None
nutella
0
No votes
Voters: None
staypositivefriend
1
8%
Voters: Michelle
tutuu
0
No votes
Voters: None
No Bake
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No votes
Voters: None
Unvote
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Voters: None
I'm a gluten fiend (Host, Mods, Nonplayers)
1
8%
Voters: Marmot
Total votes: 13

The max wagon on LC

Long Con
7
54%
Voters: MacDougall, nutella, Made, EllieDelight, Alison, staypositivefriend, Esooa

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Idk why esooa is being cleared so

I encourage this tinfoil

[Made]

Idk why esooa is being cleared so

I encourage this tinfoil

[MacDougall]

Tutuu I am isoing Esooa and I very doubty that she voted LC dudesta. She has straight up townread him the entire day.

[MacDougall]

Aight Esooa:

Shielded LC a lot
Hasn't tunneled a mafia
Hasn't really pushed any reads or shown any insightful scum hunting

She's probably just mafia.

Pays to read ISOs people.

[tutuu]

There are 30 dollars total.

25 go to the Cashier.

2 go to the Waiter.

3 go to the friends, one each.

"If they paid $27 and the waiter kept $2: $27+$2=$29" - this line is a lie.

The friends paid 27 dollars, but 2 of those dollars are already taken by the waiter. They paid 25 dollars + 2 for the waiter.

So saying 27 + 2 = 29 is a lie. You are counting the 2 dollars for the waiter twice.

[staypositivefriend]

i just beat a part of celeste that i've been stuck on all day and i have the power of god flowing through me

[MacDougall]

When le fuck did she vote LC?