Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:14 am
we should always go Ellie over made imo btw
you're going to kill another town and mafia are going to use that to get you killed like what's happening RIGHT NOW. i wish i was scum so you wouldn't look so evil but im not
can you give a general reads list
made is 1000% scum, i have done nothing in this game for him to bend over backwards. i couldnt tell you anyone else, michelle looked scum to me d1 but idk what to say now. probably scum if shes helping made though.
nook, spf, nutter are lock town.
idk where to put you since i thought you were scum so bad yesterday but now im confused.
grogu is a passing thought and i dont care either way since he's inactive.
i'm concerned, because you don't seem very confused about esooa's alignment in this post:
Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:14 am
we should always go Ellie over made imo btw
you're going to kill another town and mafia are going to use that to get you killed like what's happening RIGHT NOW. i wish i was scum so you wouldn't look so evil but im not
u sound pretty confident that she's town that's in danger of getting mischopped, right? so how can you have that level of certainty while still not knowing where to put esooa on your reads list?
Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:14 am
we should always go Ellie over made imo btw
you're going to kill another town and mafia are going to use that to get you killed like what's happening RIGHT NOW. i wish i was scum so you wouldn't look so evil but im not
can you give a general reads list
made is 1000% scum, i have done nothing in this game for him to bend over backwards. i couldnt tell you anyone else, michelle looked scum to me d1 but idk what to say now. probably scum if shes helping made though.
nook, spf, nutter are lock town.
idk where to put you since i thought you were scum so bad yesterday but now im confused.
grogu is a passing thought and i dont care either way since he's inactive.
why is Nanook town
why is spf town
what is your read on Alison
I’ll come clean team. I have failed you.
I never expected to survive the night. I was very confused about the char flip and I was on my way to a very hot date. We stayed overnight to celebrate my girl bday and vday weekend. Last thing in my mind was the game... I never submitted an action last night.
Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:14 am
we should always go Ellie over made imo btw
you're going to kill another town and mafia are going to use that to get you killed like what's happening RIGHT NOW. i wish i was scum so you wouldn't look so evil but im not
can you give a general reads list
made is 1000% scum, i have done nothing in this game for him to bend over backwards. i couldnt tell you anyone else, michelle looked scum to me d1 but idk what to say now. probably scum if shes helping made though.
nook, spf, nutter are lock town.
idk where to put you since i thought you were scum so bad yesterday but now im confused.
grogu is a passing thought and i dont care either way since he's inactive.
you're gonna have to explain why you're so different this game if you ever want my vote moved off you btw
i uh, cared more about flirting the first two games and coming across as cute rather than trying super hard. but now i can just try and dont care about looking bitchy. cringe cringe cringe
Exhibit no 1: Nut can't read me this game. Never happened before.
Exhibit no 2: Mac died and he suspected Esooa
Exhibit no 3: Nutella don't give a fuck on Mac's read and accepts Esooa's pocketing.
Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:14 am
we should always go Ellie over made imo btw
you're going to kill another town and mafia are going to use that to get you killed like what's happening RIGHT NOW. i wish i was scum so you wouldn't look so evil but im not
can you give a general reads list
made is 1000% scum, i have done nothing in this game for him to bend over backwards. i couldnt tell you anyone else, michelle looked scum to me d1 but idk what to say now. probably scum if shes helping made though.
nook, spf, nutter are lock town.
idk where to put you since i thought you were scum so bad yesterday but now im confused.
grogu is a passing thought and i dont care either way since he's inactive.
Ellie/Michelle/.....nanook
or nanook is actually just pocketed by michelle and she openly said so lol and the third is someone else
lol i gotta stop trying to team build
how bout
Alison/Michelle/Grogu
I don't think michelle is bad, but if i understand where you head is at, this kinda makes sense no?
nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:22 am
Michelle is really nitpicking at things that are inconsequential, which like I think she does as town but in a better balance with actual real reads and productive pushes tbh.
Really feeling she's mafia here, and I think Made is more likely town in comparison.
I agree though thinking of made town is *shudders* rn cause of how much he's scum siding if so. But it makes Ellie look bad cause she's trying to get him to go first. But Ellie at the same time is just straight up right that Mades treatment of her makes no sense at all
I've seen town do similar things to how made is treating ellie in similar situations
@staypositivefriend and @JaggedJimmyJay, I'm thinking of Ara's defense of Ephemera for instance here
I’ll come clean team. I have failed you.
I never expected to survive the night. I was very confused about the char flip and I was on my way to a very hot date. We stayed overnight to celebrate my girl bday and vday weekend. Last thing in my mind was the game... I never submitted an action last night.
Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:14 am
we should always go Ellie over made imo btw
you're going to kill another town and mafia are going to use that to get you killed like what's happening RIGHT NOW. i wish i was scum so you wouldn't look so evil but im not
can you give a general reads list
made is 1000% scum, i have done nothing in this game for him to bend over backwards. i couldnt tell you anyone else, michelle looked scum to me d1 but idk what to say now. probably scum if shes helping made though.
nook, spf, nutter are lock town.
idk where to put you since i thought you were scum so bad yesterday but now im confused.
grogu is a passing thought and i dont care either way since he's inactive.
you're gonna have to explain why you're so different this game if you ever want my vote moved off you btw
i uh, cared more about flirting the first two games and coming across as cute rather than trying super hard. but now i can just try and dont care about looking bitchy. cringe cringe cringe
I’ll come clean team. I have failed you.
I never expected to survive the night. I was very confused about the char flip and I was on my way to a very hot date. We stayed overnight to celebrate my girl bday and vday weekend. Last thing in my mind was the game... I never submitted an action last night.
Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:14 am
we should always go Ellie over made imo btw
you're going to kill another town and mafia are going to use that to get you killed like what's happening RIGHT NOW. i wish i was scum so you wouldn't look so evil but im not
can you give a general reads list
made is 1000% scum, i have done nothing in this game for him to bend over backwards. i couldnt tell you anyone else, michelle looked scum to me d1 but idk what to say now. probably scum if shes helping made though.
nook, spf, nutter are lock town.
idk where to put you since i thought you were scum so bad yesterday but now im confused.
grogu is a passing thought and i dont care either way since he's inactive.
you're gonna have to explain why you're so different this game if you ever want my vote moved off you btw
i uh, cared more about flirting the first two games and coming across as cute rather than trying super hard. but now i can just try and dont care about looking bitchy. cringe cringe cringe
Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:14 am
we should always go Ellie over made imo btw
you're going to kill another town and mafia are going to use that to get you killed like what's happening RIGHT NOW. i wish i was scum so you wouldn't look so evil but im not
i'm pretty surprised by the level of certainty you have right now that esooa is town - how sure are u?
im 50/50, but id feel really bad if she got baked for baking me.
Made wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:11 am
okay so
nutella, essoa, nanook, made, michelle, ellie
of us active at this moment right now, ALL of us can't bad so there's definitely some friendly fire here, and people who are just mistaken.
it'd be wild if 3 of us were bad, so like. maybe i'm wrong, maybe y'all wrong, but most of us are well intentioned
silence and die scum
i was really hoping we could be friend.
can we at least work together to get you off the chopping block?
HOW DOES NO ONE SEE THAT MADE IS TRYING TO MAKE ME LOOK SCUM WITH HIM??? ME AND HIM ARE THE WAGONS, WHAT SANE PERSON WOULD WANT ME OFF THE CHOPPING BLOCK?????
Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:14 am
we should always go Ellie over made imo btw
you're going to kill another town and mafia are going to use that to get you killed like what's happening RIGHT NOW. i wish i was scum so you wouldn't look so evil but im not
i'm pretty surprised by the level of certainty you have right now that esooa is town - how sure are u?
Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:14 am
we should always go Ellie over made imo btw
you're going to kill another town and mafia are going to use that to get you killed like what's happening RIGHT NOW. i wish i was scum so you wouldn't look so evil but im not
can you give a general reads list
made is 1000% scum, i have done nothing in this game for him to bend over backwards. i couldnt tell you anyone else, michelle looked scum to me d1 but idk what to say now. probably scum if shes helping made though.
nook, spf, nutter are lock town.
idk where to put you since i thought you were scum so bad yesterday but now im confused.
grogu is a passing thought and i dont care either way since he's inactive.
post like this, and your "ewww grosss made" only making me more confident that ur town. i see why that's problematic, but like it's gonna work out dw
Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:14 am
we should always go Ellie over made imo btw
you're going to kill another town and mafia are going to use that to get you killed like what's happening RIGHT NOW. i wish i was scum so you wouldn't look so evil but im not
can you give a general reads list
made is 1000% scum, i have done nothing in this game for him to bend over backwards. i couldnt tell you anyone else, michelle looked scum to me d1 but idk what to say now. probably scum if shes helping made though.
nook, spf, nutter are lock town.
idk where to put you since i thought you were scum so bad yesterday but now im confused.
grogu is a passing thought and i dont care either way since he's inactive.
i'm concerned, because you don't seem very confused about esooa's alignment in this post:
Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:14 am
we should always go Ellie over made imo btw
you're going to kill another town and mafia are going to use that to get you killed like what's happening RIGHT NOW. i wish i was scum so you wouldn't look so evil but im not
u sound pretty confident that she's town that's in danger of getting mischopped, right? so how can you have that level of certainty while still not knowing where to put esooa on your reads list?
id feel bad out of game if she was mischopped, since id be to blame but in game im unsure if she is actually town
Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:14 am
we should always go Ellie over made imo btw
you're going to kill another town and mafia are going to use that to get you killed like what's happening RIGHT NOW. i wish i was scum so you wouldn't look so evil but im not
can you give a general reads list
made is 1000% scum, i have done nothing in this game for him to bend over backwards. i couldnt tell you anyone else, michelle looked scum to me d1 but idk what to say now. probably scum if shes helping made though.
nook, spf, nutter are lock town.
idk where to put you since i thought you were scum so bad yesterday but now im confused.
grogu is a passing thought and i dont care either way since he's inactive.
i'm concerned, because you don't seem very confused about esooa's alignment in this post:
Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:14 am
we should always go Ellie over made imo btw
you're going to kill another town and mafia are going to use that to get you killed like what's happening RIGHT NOW. i wish i was scum so you wouldn't look so evil but im not
u sound pretty confident that she's town that's in danger of getting mischopped, right? so how can you have that level of certainty while still not knowing where to put esooa on your reads list?
now *that* is what a tmi read looks like
the particular way she addresses Esooa there is how scum addresses town knowing their alignment
Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:25 am
Exhibit no 1: Nut can't read me this game. Never happened before.
Exhibit no 2: Mac died and he suspected Esooa
Exhibit no 3: Nutella don't give a fuck on Mac's read and accepts Esooa's pocketing.
Something is not right.
I will go to work now.
Sorry bout the rand
Also Mac let up on the Esooa scumread at the end, you leaning on the NK's suspicion seems ~convenient~ if you get what im sayin
nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:22 am
Michelle is really nitpicking at things that are inconsequential, which like I think she does as town but in a better balance with actual real reads and productive pushes tbh.
Really feeling she's mafia here, and I think Made is more likely town in comparison.
I agree though thinking of made town is *shudders* rn cause of how much he's scum siding if so. But it makes Ellie look bad cause she's trying to get him to go first. But Ellie at the same time is just straight up right that Mades treatment of her makes no sense at all
I've seen town do similar things to how made is treating ellie in similar situations
@staypositivefriend and @JaggedJimmyJay, I'm thinking of Ara's defense of Ephemera for instance here
think he's just misguided
mm it's possible, but i found it pretty easy to understand ara's thought process behind defending/townreading ephemera even though i disagreed with her
but in the case of made, i have consistently struggled to understand his thought process and get on the same page as him - probably more than any other player this game. at least in terms of how genuine the defenses feel, im not sure how well the ara/eph comparison works
Michelle doesn't have the guts to straight out say she suspects me because she damn well knows I'm obvious town so instead she resorts to vague shit like "something isn't right"
I’ll come clean team. I have failed you.
I never expected to survive the night. I was very confused about the char flip and I was on my way to a very hot date. We stayed overnight to celebrate my girl bday and vday weekend. Last thing in my mind was the game... I never submitted an action last night.
Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:14 am
we should always go Ellie over made imo btw
you're going to kill another town and mafia are going to use that to get you killed like what's happening RIGHT NOW. i wish i was scum so you wouldn't look so evil but im not
can you give a general reads list
made is 1000% scum, i have done nothing in this game for him to bend over backwards. i couldnt tell you anyone else, michelle looked scum to me d1 but idk what to say now. probably scum if shes helping made though.
nook, spf, nutter are lock town.
idk where to put you since i thought you were scum so bad yesterday but now im confused.
grogu is a passing thought and i dont care either way since he's inactive.
you're gonna have to explain why you're so different this game if you ever want my vote moved off you btw
i uh, cared more about flirting the first two games and coming across as cute rather than trying super hard. but now i can just try and dont care about looking bitchy. cringe cringe cringe
Made wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:27 am
@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME if ur so solid that i'm bad, why aren't you intervening on any of my bullshit?
What would that look like
i just feel like if a person were tunneled they'd be primed to see the logical leaps in w/e their tunnel-ee is doing. I know that's the case for me anyways
nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:32 am
Michelle doesn't have the guts to straight out say she suspects me because she damn well knows I'm obvious town so instead she resorts to vague shit like "something isn't right"
I’ll come clean team. I have failed you.
I never expected to survive the night. I was very confused about the char flip and I was on my way to a very hot date. We stayed overnight to celebrate my girl bday and vday weekend. Last thing in my mind was the game... I never submitted an action last night.
DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:21 am
Michelle, it's hard to remember your past games I've seen, but I don't think you ever come across as towny
I will give you a hint about how i come across, in my second mentor/mentee game, the town mentors could bet i am wolf, and i was villager.
And that was before Monstrman adviced me to play bolder as villager.
I think we never played together, or at least i don't remember.
I don't pay attention at my play to be townish, i rather need to receive answers from the thread than have an universally town read who is blurring my view over the game.
Made wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:27 am
@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME if ur so solid that i'm bad, why aren't you intervening on any of my bullshit?
What would that look like
i just feel like if a person were tunneled they'd be primed to see the logical leaps in w/e their tunnel-ee is doing. I know that's the case for me anyways
EllieDelight wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:29 am
id feel bad out of game if she was mischopped, since id be to blame but in game im unsure if she is actually town
Made wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:27 am
@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME if ur so solid that i'm bad, why aren't you intervening on any of my bullshit?
What would that look like
i just feel like if a person were tunneled they'd be primed to see the logical leaps in w/e their tunnel-ee is doing. I know that's the case for me anyways
I don’t think it’s productive to quote every other post you make and go “SEE HES SO MAFIA GUYS”
I’d rather let you do whatever you’re gonna do, I’m scumreading you but I don’t think you’re lock mafia
Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:14 am
we should always go Ellie over made imo btw
you're going to kill another town and mafia are going to use that to get you killed like what's happening RIGHT NOW. i wish i was scum so you wouldn't look so evil but im not
can you give a general reads list
made is 1000% scum, i have done nothing in this game for him to bend over backwards. i couldnt tell you anyone else, michelle looked scum to me d1 but idk what to say now. probably scum if shes helping made though.
nook, spf, nutter are lock town.
idk where to put you since i thought you were scum so bad yesterday but now im confused.
grogu is a passing thought and i dont care either way since he's inactive.
i'm concerned, because you don't seem very confused about esooa's alignment in this post:
Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:14 am
we should always go Ellie over made imo btw
you're going to kill another town and mafia are going to use that to get you killed like what's happening RIGHT NOW. i wish i was scum so you wouldn't look so evil but im not
u sound pretty confident that she's town that's in danger of getting mischopped, right? so how can you have that level of certainty while still not knowing where to put esooa on your reads list?
now *that* is what a tmi read looks like
the particular way she addresses Esooa there is how scum addresses town knowing their alignment
DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:21 am
Michelle, it's hard to remember your past games I've seen, but I don't think you ever come across as towny
I will give you a hint about how i come across, in my second mentor/mentee game, the town mentors could bet i am wolf, and i was villager.
And that was before Monstrman adviced me to play bolder as villager.
I think we never played together, or at least i don't remember.
I don't pay attention at my play to be townish, i rather need to receive answers from the thread than have an universally town read who is blurring my view over the game.
We've come across one another a couple times, you may have been in the last mafia game I played
nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:32 am
Michelle doesn't have the guts to straight out say she suspects me because she damn well knows I'm obvious town so instead she resorts to vague shit like "something isn't right"
EllieDelight wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:31 am
i kinda dont lime nut's defense of made since made is so obv scum, ngl
why would i side with my top mafia read on their relentless tunnel? like i know i said your push on him could be teammate wifom but atp i think youre kinda spewing him town. if you are town then he looks more scummy from your pov sure but i dont have that perspective and dont think you flip green. and i think michelle is far scummier here and dont really think theyre partnered
if ellie ~does~ flip scum then this game is a good primer on why i shouldn't care about tone at all in mafia games
because sometimes when i read ellie's posts her tone just "sounds" authentic to me, even though her logic and her reads don't. and i think what kept me from committing to her on d1 is the feeling that her "tone" was just too genuine - but i would be a fool if i prioritized her tone over her logic and her reads atm
EllieDelight wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:29 am
id feel bad out of game if she was mischopped, since id be to blame but in game im unsure if she is actually town
yeah this just seems like a fake backtrack ngl
p a i n
esooa is my friend and when I joined the thread today everyone was at her throat. and if you think id lie about this then im actually offended since I put friends ahead of gameplay.
DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:21 am
Michelle, it's hard to remember your past games I've seen, but I don't think you ever come across as towny
I will give you a hint about how i come across, in my second mentor/mentee game, the town mentors could bet i am wolf, and i was villager.
And that was before Monstrman adviced me to play bolder as villager.
I think we never played together, or at least i don't remember.
I don't pay attention at my play to be townish, i rather need to receive answers from the thread than have an universally town read who is blurring my view over the game.
We've come across one another a couple times, you may have been in the last mafia game I played
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:36 am
if ellie ~does~ flip scum then this game is a good primer on why i shouldn't care about tone at all in mafia games
because sometimes when i read ellie's posts her tone just "sounds" authentic to me, even though her logic and her reads don't. and i think what kept me from committing to her on d1 is the feeling that her "tone" was just too genuine - but i would be a fool if i prioritized her tone over her logic and her reads atm
on second thought, it's probably just that ellie is a newer player to forum mafia games, and i always read newer players tones as pure because they haven't learned the ins and outs of what's "normal" to say in FM games
EllieDelight wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:31 am
i kinda dont lime nut's defense of made since made is so obv scum, ngl
why would i side with my top mafia read on their relentless tunnel? like i know i said your push on him could be teammate wifom but atp i think youre kinda spewing him town. if you are town then he looks more scummy from your pov sure but i dont have that perspective and dont think you flip green. and i think michelle is far scummier here and dont really think theyre partnered
I took that back immediately aftwr thinking for more than 5 seconds, sorry
nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:22 am
Michelle is really nitpicking at things that are inconsequential, which like I think she does as town but in a better balance with actual real reads and productive pushes tbh.
Really feeling she's mafia here, and I think Made is more likely town in comparison.
I agree though thinking of made town is *shudders* rn cause of how much he's scum siding if so. But it makes Ellie look bad cause she's trying to get him to go first. But Ellie at the same time is just straight up right that Mades treatment of her makes no sense at all
I've seen town do similar things to how made is treating ellie in similar situations
@staypositivefriend and @JaggedJimmyJay, I'm thinking of Ara's defense of Ephemera for instance here
think he's just misguided
mm it's possible, but i found it pretty easy to understand ara's thought process behind defending/townreading ephemera even though i disagreed with her
but in the case of made, i have consistently struggled to understand his thought process and get on the same page as him - probably more than any other player this game. at least in terms of how genuine the defenses feel, im not sure how well the ara/eph comparison works
that's fair i guess, i do agree with you on not really being able to vibe with his thought process at all. but i think some of that could be chalked up to his play style and often having an unorthodox or contrarian outlook on things. idk
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:36 am
if ellie ~does~ flip scum then this game is a good primer on why i shouldn't care about tone at all in mafia games
because sometimes when i read ellie's posts her tone just "sounds" authentic to me, even though her logic and her reads don't. and i think what kept me from committing to her on d1 is the feeling that her "tone" was just too genuine - but i would be a fool if i prioritized her tone over her logic and her reads atm
I’ll come clean team. I have failed you.
I never expected to survive the night. I was very confused about the char flip and I was on my way to a very hot date. We stayed overnight to celebrate my girl bday and vday weekend. Last thing in my mind was the game... I never submitted an action last night.
EllieDelight wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:31 am
i kinda dont lime nut's defense of made since made is so obv scum, ngl
why would i side with my top mafia read on their relentless tunnel? like i know i said your push on him could be teammate wifom but atp i think youre kinda spewing him town. if you are town then he looks more scummy from your pov sure but i dont have that perspective and dont think you flip green. and i think michelle is far scummier here and dont really think theyre partnered
I see you already flipped me in your head and you are making associations based on that?
Did i interpret this correct, @ everyone?
i just feel like if a person were tunneled they'd be primed to see the logical leaps in w/e their tunnel-ee is doing. I know that's the case for me anyways
