Bread Mafia [Game Over]

[Michelle]

is anyone going to continue to contest the fact that I am obviously town?

This is openwolfing and everyone accept this
When i said Esooa's Sod is wolfy i thought at these posts, this and the one I quoted above

[JaggedJimmyJay]

so in other news i was inspired to figure out who daughterofomega is and uh

interesting

Spill

I used to go by AoBenjamin in 2015-2017 on a place called 2+2.
In 2016-2018 was where most people know me from, where my name was changed to BenjiAO.
In early 2019, I was slowly transitioning my gender, and now I go by Rach or Rachel most commonly.

DaughterOfOmega is a reference to my original online tag, which was SonsOfOmega, in which I shared with my brother. It means a lot to me, and as I no longer am male, I don't maintain the Sons part anymore.

If people were wondering who I am, it's not like I was hiding it, so I find Nutella's post somewhat awkward. If you are too bring up who I am, why would you not say it? Just is annoying to bring it up in that manner, as if it's bad to be known.

Interesting story. I have seen you before, glad to hear you are doing good and have completed your transition. I hope you are happy!

I want to permanently dissociate these two (Grogu and Omega). Anyone feel free to object.

[Michelle]

is anyone going to continue to contest the fact that I am obviously town?

i'm still paranoid and out of respect for mac i'm going to ISO you today

but it's hard to see myself wanting to vote ellie over you atm, and i think an ellie scum flip would borderline clear you

how about u don't respect Mac and respect the fact that I put 100% the most effort into actually figuring out LC's alignment yesterday and I came to the correct conclusion for good reasons and tried to push that

Why is not TMI your 'correct conclusion' ?
Why is your first concern how are you looking and how eveyone reads you?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

is anyone going to continue to contest the fact that I am obviously town?

This is openwolfing and everyone accept this
When i said Esooa's Sod is wolfy i thought at these posts, this and the one I quoted above

It just isn't openmafing (I won't use "wolf" no matter how hard y'all try to change the language ). I say stuff like that all the time when I am town.

Esooa doesn't have to be town, but reads like this cannot stem from a grounded town mind. If you are town, Michelle, please take a step back and slow down.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Just generally speaking, I think this game is out of control.

Let's get it back under control.

[Michelle]

is anyone going to continue to contest the fact that I am obviously town?

This is openwolfing and everyone accept this
When i said Esooa's Sod is wolfy i thought at these posts, this and the one I quoted above

It just isn't openmafing (I won't use "wolf" no matter how hard y'all try to change the language ). I say stuff like that all the time when I am town.

Esooa doesn't have to be town, but reads like this cannot stem from a grounded town mind. If you are town, Michelle, please take a step back and slow down.

You have countless games played and you can post in a wide range, please don't make this comparison between you and Esooa..
why do you want me to censor myself because some posts may 'look bad' ?

I will tell you why i think that post is bad: it has no impact in the solve, and shows her only concern, to be town read.
I don't give a fuck on anyone reads and i prooved it.
She, however, is obsessed with how is she perceived.

This is not coming from town.

[Michelle]

is anyone going to continue to contest the fact that I am obviously town?

i'm still paranoid and out of respect for mac i'm going to ISO you today

but it's hard to see myself wanting to vote ellie over you atm, and i think an ellie scum flip would borderline clear you

how about u don't respect Mac and respect the fact that I put 100% the most effort into actually figuring out LC's alignment yesterday and I came to the correct conclusion for good reasons and tried to push that

well i think it bodes well for you that LC flipped town, in the sense that it aligns pretty well with how i've seen you play as town before (like in our recent game in MU, you defended the chop on fox on d1 with a similar level of passion/energy)

it seems like the only reason mac had to be suspicious about you in an LC!town flip world was over concerns that you TR LC from a place of TMI - but your analysis of him felt pure to me in the moment

don't think i would clear you just yet but i am townleaning you, and i can't see myself voting for you unless something in your ISO really pings me

This post pings me, it's an analysis too wordy to be authentic.

[Esooa]

is anyone going to continue to contest the fact that I am obviously town?

This is openwolfing and everyone accept this
When i said Esooa's Sod is wolfy i thought at these posts, this and the one I quoted above

It just isn't openmafing (I won't use "wolf" no matter how hard y'all try to change the language ). I say stuff like that all the time when I am town.

Esooa doesn't have to be town, but reads like this cannot stem from a grounded town mind. If you are town, Michelle, please take a step back and slow down.

You have countless games played and you can post in a wide range, please don't make this comparison between you and Esooa..
why do you want me to censor myself because some posts may 'look bad' ?

I will tell you why i think that post is bad: it has no impact in the solve, and shows her only concern, to be town read.
I don't give a fuck on anyone reads and i prooved it.
She, however, is obsessed with how is she perceived.

This is not coming from town.

if you think caring a bunch how otherd perceive you is wolfy then boy have I got news about your iso

[JaggedJimmyJay]

@Esooa, I know a prominent Syndicat (dunya) who has, more than once, gone guilt trip as a mafioso with the "I hate playing when people expect my reads to be 100% perfect" complaint.

Why should I trust that you're not being a butt?

[Michelle]

is anyone going to continue to contest the fact that I am obviously town?

i'm still paranoid and out of respect for mac i'm going to ISO you today

but it's hard to see myself wanting to vote ellie over you atm, and i think an ellie scum flip would borderline clear you

how about u don't respect Mac and respect the fact that I put 100% the most effort into actually figuring out LC's alignment yesterday and I came to the correct conclusion for good reasons and tried to push that

well i think it bodes well for you that LC flipped town, in the sense that it aligns pretty well with how i've seen you play as town before (like in our recent game in MU, you defended the chop on fox on d1 with a similar level of passion/energy)

it seems like the only reason mac had to be suspicious about you in an LC!town flip world was over concerns that you TR LC from a place of TMI - but your analysis of him felt pure to me in the moment

don't think i would clear you just yet but i am townleaning you, and i can't see myself voting for you unless something in your ISO really pings me

it is actually a joke my read is "town lean" when I have done more for town this game than any other player. Btw, Mac himself said that he agrees I wouldn't go so out of my way to TMI someone town for no reason. And also BTW uh, y'know, Mac can actually be wrong and maybe try and think about this for urself rn

Repeating this until you believe it yourself, that will not change your wolf range Esooa
You didn't proove to make anything useful during the game tbh

[JaggedJimmyJay]

@staypositivefriend, please tell me how you feel about being the #1 town read on Omega's most recent list.

[Esooa]

@Esooa, I know a prominent Syndicat (dunya) who has, more than once, gone guilt trip as a mafioso with the "I hate playing when people expect my reads to be 100% perfect" complaint.

Why should I trust that you're not being a butt?

because if you read my posts I'm obviously town

/shrug

I don't really care to argue past this right now

[JaggedJimmyJay]

@Esooa, I know a prominent Syndicat (dunya) who has, more than once, gone guilt trip as a mafioso with the "I hate playing when people expect my reads to be 100% perfect" complaint.

Why should I trust that you're not being a butt?

because if you read my posts I'm obviously town

/shrug

I don't really care to argue past this right now

Cool. What do your posts look like when you're not obviously town?

[Michelle]

Arrogance is pretty towny. Please move on.

Not for everyone. I don't understand this take.

[Michelle]

wdym not accepting

arrogance is not helping you lmfao

you will be lock town on an ellie scum flip, until then just chill pls

I'm pushing for this for the entire day until people accept it cause it's extremely obnoxious and stressful and unhelpful for people to use 100x the standard on me they use for anyone else just cause some player they think is good said to do so

Clogging the thread with self centered posts, this is not a thing town should do, so i will never town read such behaviour.

[Esooa]

@Esooa, I know a prominent Syndicat (dunya) who has, more than once, gone guilt trip as a mafioso with the "I hate playing when people expect my reads to be 100% perfect" complaint.

Why should I trust that you're not being a butt?

because if you read my posts I'm obviously town

/shrug

I don't really care to argue past this right now

Cool. What do your posts look like when you're not obviously town?

I think the reads and thought processes I posted in thread would be very hard to fake, and I don't think the way I played day 1 is ever how I play as mafia either with Ellie being town or scum. I don't think any scum would play like that so you don't really need much explanation there

[Esooa]

wdym not accepting

arrogance is not helping you lmfao

you will be lock town on an ellie scum flip, until then just chill pls

I'm pushing for this for the entire day until people accept it cause it's extremely obnoxious and stressful and unhelpful for people to use 100x the standard on me they use for anyone else just cause some player they think is good said to do so

Clogging the thread with self centered posts, this is not a thing town should do, so i will never town read such behaviour.

you're clogging the thread rn

[Michelle]

i'm still paranoid and out of respect for mac i'm going to ISO you today

but it's hard to see myself wanting to vote ellie over you atm, and i think an ellie scum flip would borderline clear you

how about u don't respect Mac and respect the fact that I put 100% the most effort into actually figuring out LC's alignment yesterday and I came to the correct conclusion for good reasons and tried to push that

well i think it bodes well for you that LC flipped town, in the sense that it aligns pretty well with how i've seen you play as town before (like in our recent game in MU, you defended the chop on fox on d1 with a similar level of passion/energy)

it seems like the only reason mac had to be suspicious about you in an LC!town flip world was over concerns that you TR LC from a place of TMI - but your analysis of him felt pure to me in the moment

don't think i would clear you just yet but i am townleaning you, and i can't see myself voting for you unless something in your ISO really pings me

it is actually a joke my read is "town lean" when I have done more for town this game than any other player. Btw, Mac himself said that he agrees I wouldn't go so out of my way to TMI someone town for no reason. And also BTW uh, y'know, Mac can actually be wrong and maybe try and think about this for urself rn

your town entitlement feels towny to me tbh, but i don't see why i should consider you clear. i wouldn't stress about it either way because i don't see you being the chop today, and if ellie flips mafia then you're probably going to be considered clear

I'm the most towny player in this game and you are scum if you don't think so, straight up. I don't care

no. this is a bad mindset to ever have.

like, i think *i'm* the most towny player here on a meta basis but obviously only the players who know my meta well will agree and i'm not trying to force you to agree, i'm just letting the townreads come naturally (call me a hypocrite for saying this after my exchange with LC yesterday lol whatever, my point there was other people had said it before me)


if you think you deserve so much credit show me why, and no just defending lc isn't enough. i won't take you shoving it down my throat, and you cannot scumread people for not townclearing you, that's disingenuous when me and others are legitimately towny here and discrediting that is counterproductive to solving the game

Maybe Nut and Esooa are not aligned
Then @nutella is tunneling to death 2 villagers in a row, and people she should know how to read.
This makes me sad.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I think the reads and thought processes I posted in thread would be very hard to fake, and I don't think the way I played day 1 is ever how I play as mafia either with Ellie being town or scum. I don't think any scum would play like that so you don't really need much explanation there

Okay, thanks. I'll consider that as I proceed.

Could you do me a favor and move your vote or unvote? You can always put it back later if you want. I am doing a lot of work behind the scenes though, and I really don't want someone dumping a hammer before I can finish.

[Esooa]

I think the reads and thought processes I posted in thread would be very hard to fake, and I don't think the way I played day 1 is ever how I play as mafia either with Ellie being town or scum. I don't think any scum would play like that so you don't really need much explanation there

Okay, thanks. I'll consider that as I proceed.

Could you do me a favor and move your vote or unvote? You can always put it back later if you want. I am doing a lot of work behind the scenes though, and I really don't want someone dumping a hammer before I can finish.

okay

[Michelle]

wdym not accepting

arrogance is not helping you lmfao

you will be lock town on an ellie scum flip, until then just chill pls

I'm pushing for this for the entire day until people accept it cause it's extremely obnoxious and stressful and unhelpful for people to use 100x the standard on me they use for anyone else just cause some player they think is good said to do so

Clogging the thread with self centered posts, this is not a thing town should do, so i will never town read such behaviour.

you're clogging the thread rn

I am catching up with the part of the thread i didn't read.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Ellie is confirm scum now?

Y'all don't mind me while I just stare at this post.

[Alison]

I'm awake and have finished catching up. I'll respond quickly to pings first, and then lay out my thoughts on the game.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Much appreciated, Esooa.

[Alison]

I also don't understand why alison wants to vote ellie out the gate, I feel like she should of targeted me out the gate. It seemed like her opinion of ellie yesterday was "well i mean i don't think LC is bad, so let's go ellie". @Alison am i misrepresenting your read on her?

I voted Ellie out of the gate because the game was polarized around her and LC and I wanted to resolve that situation. She's never going to get nightkilled, and even in the scenario she's town, I'd rather resolve her soon and read people off that flip than let her endgame, because barring a PR claim or some seriously townie play, she's a liability to town in that scenario.

[Michelle]

cool, really enjoy playing a game where I get based on if my reads are anything but 100% correct while u get to just sound towny day 0 and get lock cleared by everyone and don't have to care at all about if you have a single incorrect reads with players you barely even know they're all gonna apply some kinda insane meta where my reads are always correct or I get hard pushed for entire day phases at a time

I'm not checking this thread for the next 24 hours wtv

Ellie+made+1

+1 in koba/grogu/DOOM/spf/koba (maybe forgetting one)

most likely doom

Why is your Poe so big Esooa?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Ellie is confirm scum now?

Y'all don't mind me while I just stare at this post.

Theory:

Grogu is Ellie's teammate. He interpreted Omega's first post of Day 2 and the ensuing avalanche of Ellie votes as being confirmation of her alignment (e.g. cop check or something else).

[Alison]

Okay, well, that was the only ping, all my other notifications were just people quoting posts I made.

So my issue here is that Michelle is doing an awful lot of work/solving despite having a lot of pressure on her. I don't remember trying this hard to save herself in Champs finale when she was caught as scum, she just let her teammates bus her and maximize their cred. The situations are different and she might have felt pressured to do more here if her team is weak (eg. if it's Made/Michelle/Grogu), but I'm townreading this last burst of activity from her.

I agree broadly with the sentiment that DOOM's recent posts have been very good, and I am currently towncoring Esooa/nutella/tutuu/koba/nanook with fairly high confidence. I'm not scumreading SPF, but she hasn't made herself as raw town as she claimed she would be, and this particular post pinged me:

i'm going to bed but i'm probably parking my vote on michelle until she towntells. gnight

Because in this position, SPF was fairly confident Michelle was scum and making up nonsensical reasons ("you're lying about being drunk", etc.) to vote her. The "until she towntells" qualifier read to me as kinda hedgy, like she was leaving herself an out to get out of the wagon without too much scrutiny if she suddenly realizes Michelle is PR or that she'd look bad off Michelle's flip. @staypositivefriend can you elaborate a little about what sort of towntells Michelle could drop that would change your mind about her alignment at this point in time?

[Alison]

Towncore: Esooa/nutella/tutuu/koba/nanook

Knocking on the towncore door: DOOM

High POE: Michelle, SPF

Low POE: Grogu, Made, Ellie

Something like this is where I'm at atm. I think there's a decent chance the team is exactly [Grogu/Made/Ellie], since the interactions make sense to me if it's exactly that.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Towncore: Esooa/nutella/tutuu/koba/nanook

Knocking on the towncore door: DOOM

High POE: Michelle, SPF

Low POE: Grogu, Made, Ellie

Something like this is where I'm at atm. I think there's a decent chance the team is exactly [Grogu/Made/Ellie], since the interactions make sense to me if it's exactly that.

Can your old pal JaggedJimmyJay get a read?

[Esooa]

Okay, well, that was the only ping, all my other notifications were just people quoting posts I made.

So my issue here is that Michelle is doing an awful lot of work/solving despite having a lot of pressure on her. I don't remember trying this hard to save herself in Champs finale when she was caught as scum, she just let her teammates bus her and maximize their cred. The situations are different and she might have felt pressured to do more here if her team is weak (eg. if it's Made/Michelle/Grogu), but I'm townreading this last burst of activity from her.

I agree broadly with the sentiment that DOOM's recent posts have been very good, and I am currently towncoring Esooa/nutella/tutuu/koba/nanook with fairly high confidence. I'm not scumreading SPF, but she hasn't made herself as raw town as she claimed she would be, and this particular post pinged me:

i'm going to bed but i'm probably parking my vote on michelle until she towntells. gnight

Because in this position, SPF was fairly confident Michelle was scum and making up nonsensical reasons ("you're lying about being drunk", etc.) to vote her. The "until she towntells" qualifier read to me as kinda hedgy, like she was leaving herself an out to get out of the wagon without too much scrutiny if she suddenly realizes Michelle is PR or that she'd look bad off Michelle's flip. @staypositivefriend can you elaborate a little about what sort of towntells Michelle could drop that would change your mind about her alignment at this point in time?

I'd be tempted to agree with your point about Michelle if she wasn't putting effort into scum reading literally

myself, Nutella, spf

which uh, yeah lol

[Alison]

Towncore: Esooa/nutella/tutuu/koba/nanook

Knocking on the towncore door: DOOM

High POE: Michelle, SPF

Low POE: Grogu, Made, Ellie

Something like this is where I'm at atm. I think there's a decent chance the team is exactly [Grogu/Made/Ellie], since the interactions make sense to me if it's exactly that.

Can your old pal JaggedJimmyJay get a read?

Sorry, you were meant to be in the "knocking" category (as stated earlier today). I have no problem with what you're doing so far, keep doing what you're doing and let me know if you come to any interesting conclusions.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I'd be tempted to agree with your point about Michelle if she wasn't putting effort into scum reading literally

myself, Nutella, spf

which uh, yeah lol

Would you say those are reads that are likely to help Michelle survive [in her eyes]?

[Esooa]

Towncore: Esooa/nutella/tutuu/koba/nanook

Knocking on the towncore door: DOOM

High POE: Michelle, SPF

Low POE: Grogu, Made, Ellie

Something like this is where I'm at atm. I think there's a decent chance the team is exactly [Grogu/Made/Ellie], since the interactions make sense to me if it's exactly that.

how likely do you think it is Ellie and mades posts were distancing?

Also, your apprehension on Michelle makes me want to consider just going Made today. It seems extremely hard to make a team that leaves him out with how things currently are

I'd also like to ask why nanook is still in your towncore? Would be be lower if Michelle flipped scum?

Are you completely confident in tutuu being town? The question I asked earlier would heavily hinge on thinking the PoE is generally very accurate

[Esooa]

the question being about moving to Made

[Alison]

I'd be tempted to agree with your point about Michelle if she wasn't putting effort into scum reading literally

myself, Nutella, spf

which uh, yeah lol

Yeah, but what's her plan here as scum? Like she's putting in a lot of effort while under imminent threat of death, suggesting that if he's scum she's trying to dig herself out of a hole. Having her scumreads be Esooa/nutella/SPF don't seem conducive to that plan. I'm confused what her goal is if she's scum, because she's not going to save herself if that's her solve. I'm reminded of Hydra G6, where I was hydra'ing with Fatmo and we managed to get there on Bluestar (a very heavily suspected slot) being town because we determined that their play made absolutely no sense if they were scum and gave them no path to victory.

[Esooa]

I'd be tempted to agree with your point about Michelle if she wasn't putting effort into scum reading literally

myself, Nutella, spf

which uh, yeah lol

Would you say those are reads that are likely to help Michelle survive [in her eyes]?

not particularly, but I'd be quite surprised if these are reads town Michelle believed.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Appreciate being in the same mental space there, Alison.

[Alison]

Towncore: Esooa/nutella/tutuu/koba/nanook

Knocking on the towncore door: DOOM

High POE: Michelle, SPF

Low POE: Grogu, Made, Ellie

Something like this is where I'm at atm. I think there's a decent chance the team is exactly [Grogu/Made/Ellie], since the interactions make sense to me if it's exactly that.

how likely do you think it is Ellie and mades posts were distancing?

Also, your apprehension on Michelle makes me want to consider just going Made today. It seems extremely hard to make a team that leaves him out with how things currently are

I'd also like to ask why nanook is still in your towncore? Would be be lower if Michelle flipped scum?

Are you completely confident in tutuu being town? The question I asked earlier would heavily hinge on thinking the PoE is generally very accurate

I don't see Ellie/Made interactions as clearing them from being partners. Made has an extremely strong townread on Ellie for virtually no reason; Ellie thinks Made is lock scum and is very loud about it, and quotes all his posts with comments like "LOOK HOW SCUM MADE IS". Neither of these stances feel particularly out of the ordinary from scum that don't want to spew each other; I'm particularly concerned by the specific talking point Ellie has, which is "Made is scum because he's trying to make me look scum with him when he goes down" - I think that could easily be Ellie projecting her worries about being spewed red off Made's scumflip, and trying to pre-emptively excuse herself from it.

[Michelle]

Okay, well, that was the only ping, all my other notifications were just people quoting posts I made.

So my issue here is that Michelle is doing an awful lot of work/solving despite having a lot of pressure on her. I don't remember trying this hard to save herself in Champs finale when she was caught as scum, she just let her teammates bus her and maximize their cred. The situations are different and she might have felt pressured to do more here if her team is weak (eg. if it's Made/Michelle/Grogu), but I'm townreading this last burst of activity from her.

I agree broadly with the sentiment that DOOM's recent posts have been very good, and I am currently towncoring Esooa/nutella/tutuu/koba/nanook with fairly high confidence. I'm not scumreading SPF, but she hasn't made herself as raw town as she claimed she would be, and this particular post pinged me:

i'm going to bed but i'm probably parking my vote on michelle until she towntells. gnight

Because in this position, SPF was fairly confident Michelle was scum and making up nonsensical reasons ("you're lying about being drunk", etc.) to vote her. The "until she towntells" qualifier read to me as kinda hedgy, like she was leaving herself an out to get out of the wagon without too much scrutiny if she suddenly realizes Michelle is PR or that she'd look bad off Michelle's flip. @staypositivefriend can you elaborate a little about what sort of towntells Michelle could drop that would change your mind about her alignment at this point in time?

I'd be tempted to agree with your point about Michelle if she wasn't putting effort into scum reading literally

myself, Nutella, spf

which uh, yeah lol

I don't find towniness in any of you.
So 'uh, yeah lol' how much you want

[Esooa]

it's not realistically that difficult to do ISO busywork and make up bad reads about every post imo

[Michelle]

I'd be tempted to agree with your point about Michelle if she wasn't putting effort into scum reading literally

myself, Nutella, spf

which uh, yeah lol

Would you say those are reads that are likely to help Michelle survive [in her eyes]?

not particularly, but I'd be quite surprised if these are reads town Michelle believed.

Why?

[Alison]

If Michelle is scum she's probably trying to skate by on "these reads are too wacky to come from scum, has to be out of touch town". Which I guess is possible but doesn't really feel like scum Michelle's MO? @nutella you've scummed with Michelle a couple of times, is this kind of tactic in her range?

[Esooa]

Towncore: Esooa/nutella/tutuu/koba/nanook

Knocking on the towncore door: DOOM

High POE: Michelle, SPF

Low POE: Grogu, Made, Ellie

Something like this is where I'm at atm. I think there's a decent chance the team is exactly [Grogu/Made/Ellie], since the interactions make sense to me if it's exactly that.

how likely do you think it is Ellie and mades posts were distancing?

Also, your apprehension on Michelle makes me want to consider just going Made today. It seems extremely hard to make a team that leaves him out with how things currently are

I'd also like to ask why nanook is still in your towncore? Would be be lower if Michelle flipped scum?

Are you completely confident in tutuu being town? The question I asked earlier would heavily hinge on thinking the PoE is generally very accurate

I don't see Ellie/Made interactions as clearing them from being partners. Made has an extremely strong townread on Ellie for virtually no reason; Ellie thinks Made is lock scum and is very loud about it, and quotes all his posts with comments like "LOOK HOW SCUM MADE IS". Neither of these stances feel particularly out of the ordinary from scum that don't want to spew each other; I'm particularly concerned by the specific talking point Ellie has, which is "Made is scum because he's trying to make me look scum with him when he goes down" - I think that could easily be Ellie projecting her worries about being spewed red off Made's scumflip, and trying to pre-emptively excuse herself from it.

I agree, I just found it more unlikely than not, along with the other points I made about it before like none of them angling towards easiest mls like grogu and instead deciding to go hard into anti-spew along with mades actions today feeling predicated on a town!Ellie flip and etc

[Esooa]

If Michelle is scum she's probably trying to skate by on "these reads are too wacky to come from scum, has to be out of touch town". Which I guess is possible but doesn't really feel like scum Michelle's MO? @nutella you've scummed with Michelle a couple of times, is this kind of tactic in her range?

I find it more believable than the alternatives, personally

[Alison]

I'd also like to ask why nanook is still in your towncore? Would be be lower if Michelle flipped scum?

Are you completely confident in tutuu being town? The question I asked earlier would heavily hinge on thinking the PoE is generally very accurate

Re: nanook and tutuu - I have seen a tell from nanook that makes me pretty damn confident he's town, which I'm hesitant to fully explain right now. Rain check on this, and I promise I'll explain in later days. For now I don't have any worries about him.

As for tutuu, yes, I'm confident. She's just towntold way too much, and I think SPF/nutella etc. have both commented on this as well. Not re-evaluating her until FX.

[Michelle]

I'd be tempted to agree with your point about Michelle if she wasn't putting effort into scum reading literally

myself, Nutella, spf

which uh, yeah lol

Would you say those are reads that are likely to help Michelle survive [in her eyes]?

not particularly, but I'd be quite surprised if these are reads town Michelle believed.

Why?

I mean you really know nothing about me and you are just shading me considering i don't believe in my posts.
I consider you are pushing in bad faith the idea i don't believe my words.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Ellie cased Made via an explicit motivation relating to being viewed as his partner.

click here

[Michelle]

Agree with Alison about tutuu and Nanook

[Alison]

Ellie cased Made via an explicit motivation relating to being viewed as his partner.

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Yeah, this is what I mean by "Ellie could be projecting her worries about being spewed red off Made". I can easily imagine Ellie saying in scum chat that she's worried about Made's posting spewing her red, and the two of them going down like dominoes. Then they concoct a plan to argue that Made is actually scum trying to intentionally frame her, which would not only act as an excuse for why she looks bad off Made spew, but even make her look distinctly unaligned from Made because she's deathtunnelling him.