Bread Mafia [Game Over]

[Michelle]

I should stop playing alone is lunch time anyway.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Anyone have any idea when Nanook moved to Made??? Wtf

I'm triggered bc like, he was defending Michelle and only jumped on her wagon last night when I was going hard against her and it seemed that she was beyond sure to be the chop

And now that Made is a viable counter again he jumped over there without announcing it in thread

And it...surprises you? That I’d vote for my scumread over my townread when my scumread is viable? ......why is that surprising or tilting???

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I recommend reading the ISO of Nanook and asking yourself three questions.

1. Is Nanook actively solving the game, and inspecting the people he is interacting with.

2. Is Nanook posting too much fluff for you?

3. When Nanook finally gives any reads, are they given with some kind of evidence that would convince you? Or all of his reads just commentary without some details backing it up.

Congratulations you’ve described my play

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Nutella I would encourage you to every time you have a thought that involves the premise of “I can read nanook,” discard it immediately and sheep mac’s townread instead.

[Michelle]

lunch was good

Spf why are u so hung up that michelle having illogical reads = michelle mafia

Have u not seen townies being illogical in your many mafia adventures?

Michelle might still be mafia but i think that her reads are the least reason to scumread her off of

being illogical is not inherently scummy, but the issue is that michelle is a good and logical player, and the basis of her reads are, without exaggeration: "the three people who voted me are 100% mafia", with no nuance, no reconsideration, and no visible scumhunting. i wouldn't care if michelle's reads were illogical if i felt like she was thinking deeply about the game - but her thought process (in addition the fact that she accused me of lying about being drunk lol...) gives me zero indications that she's playing from a town mindset

that said, four of my biggest townreads and one of my townleans are voting for ellie right now. i've scumread ellie all day (and on d1, to a lesser extent), and i think that she has a high level of scum equity. so, it would be foolish for me to say that people should unvote ellie and vote for michelle instead. i just don't want michelle to get off w/out putting in the level of scumhunting i know that she is more than capable of doing

Tutuu came with a common sense approach and SPF shows a low level of reconsidering for that reason.
Like i am illogical but not illogical in the sense she would accept as towny. But if she is a wolf she cannot accept my logic at all because i am suspecting her and i explained the reasons. I don't know if she answered or not at my all posts but iirc she brushed my ideas because it was convenient to do so.
I explained the drunk tell, it's not illogical, just is probably new, and is as dumb as the coffee tell.
Is like SPF is caught for the wrong reason and tries to ridicule me bringing up that idea with a lol attached
Until the end of the post she says she is not letting me go, to look like she is a prudent townie.
Would a prudent towny go to bed when i had 7 votes on me like she did?
Something is not right.

Michelle's reads are difficult to assess. She painted herself into an awkward corner by town reading everyone except a specific mafia team of three -- the omgus squad. I don't know what to do with that, but I understand perceptions that it's inauthentic.

Did you read that someone said i did it on purpose to mimick my town play, who is so not like my old town play that i don't know where this idea came from.
Pushing the idea i don't trust my reads despite me explaining them is a part of the scum narrative.
I want to ask you details about tue last sentence. Can you reformulate it for me?

[Michelle]

I have 10% of the game's posts 505 from 5050

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Nutella I would encourage you to every time you have a thought that involves the premise of “I can read nanook,” discard it immediately and sheep mac’s townread instead.

Say that to yourself about me

[JaggedJimmyJay]

@Michelle, regarding the last sentence. I can understand why some/many people found your reads hard to believe, just because they were so different and stated with such resoluteness.

Anyway I don’t think you’re the bake today.

[Michelle]

As I consider today's three prominent wagons:

Made has been willing to vote Ellie and Michelle
Ellie has been willing vote Made and Michelle
Michelle has not been willing to vote Made or Ellie

I'm not sure what I think of this, but I'll put it here and thonk.

this is like one a them logical brain teaser dealios

solution easier than the $30 though

Michelle + Made scum, and Michelle looked like dead meat earlier. Made and Michelle act like I'm the third because no one can figure it out and its a free town kill. Made gets to look better for killing Mich and Mich gets to make Made look better by not making Made out to be scum.

Can you quote from my posts what gave you the coloured conclusion?
I can get it as paranoia but in the same time is shady and not productive. I town read you, not as top town because it's impossible but as lean and my vote is on my scum read.
Do you really try to figure out the game or not?

ok I'd also like to point out that in my SINGLE scum game i didnt buss my teammates besides having one of them in my scum!lean. So like, this doesnt even make sense for my playstyle if I was

A meta of 2 games is not what i would call a solid proof for playstyle. Come back with such idea after at least 10 games

[Michelle]

@Michelle, regarding the last sentence. I can understand why some/many people found your reads hard to believe, just because they were so different and stated with such resoluteness.

Anyway I don’t think you’re the bake today.

Why are you so understanding?

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Nutella I would encourage you to every time you have a thought that involves the premise of “I can read nanook,” discard it immediately and sheep mac’s townread instead.

Say that to yourself about me

I have you in basically the same spot mac did lol

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I also usually read you correctly so...not sure where the comparison is?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Would a prudent towny go to bed when i had 7 votes on me like she did?

It’s a reasonable question. I can’t blame SPF for needing to sleep, but I don’t go to bed early in a day phase and let a wagon sit at L-2. I unvote or move just to stall a hammer.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

@Michelle, regarding the last sentence. I can understand why some/many people found your reads hard to believe, just because they were so different and stated with such resoluteness.

Anyway I don’t think you’re the bake today.

Why are you so understanding?

Because it makes some semblance of sense. Would you expect the three people you called mafia to just believe you and move on?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I also usually read you correctly so...not sure where the comparison is?

You usually don’t read me at all you coward. Follow Mac’s lead. He found me in his soul.

[Michelle]

Oh is tomorrow.
Confused the times. I’m down to bake michelle, we can make her into a croissant so that bread don’t go to waste.

make me le petit pain au chocolat

Though, you have to explain me why.
If possible, toDay

[Michelle]

@Michelle, regarding the last sentence. I can understand why some/many people found your reads hard to believe, just because they were so different and stated with such resoluteness.

Anyway I don’t think you’re the bake today.

Why are you so understanding?

Because it makes some semblance of sense. Would you expect the three people you called mafia to just believe you and move on?

Is not this, it's the fact you posted that like you trust them, idk how to explain well.
If you trust all the stances in a game, how can you find who lies?

[Michelle]

That question is completely theoretical and is for my own curiosity, btw

[JaggedJimmyJay]

@Michelle, regarding the last sentence. I can understand why some/many people found your reads hard to believe, just because they were so different and stated with such resoluteness.

Anyway I don’t think you’re the bake today.

Why are you so understanding?

Because it makes some semblance of sense. Would you expect the three people you called mafia to just believe you and move on?

Is not this, it's the fact you posted that like you trust them, idk how to explain well.
If you trust all the stances in a game, how can you find who lies?

I don’t trust all the stances in the game. I’ve voiced suspicions of many players’ stances including your own.

I town read your three suspects to varying degrees. I don’t think it’s hard to see their interaction with you from their perspective. It’s a little harder to see it from your perspective.

[Michelle]

hot take: alison can still be mafia, especially if we live in some kind messed up world where michelle is town

What is SPF preparing here?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

From a purely theoretical perspective, I certainly think it’s best to try to be understanding. Human communication is often garbage, regardless of language or intentions or emotions. I want to understand people and try to sort the mess.

[Michelle]

@Michelle, regarding the last sentence. I can understand why some/many people found your reads hard to believe, just because they were so different and stated with such resoluteness.

Anyway I don’t think you’re the bake today.

Why are you so understanding?

Because it makes some semblance of sense. Would you expect the three people you called mafia to just believe you and move on?

Is not this, it's the fact you posted that like you trust them, idk how to explain well.
If you trust all the stances in a game, how can you find who lies?

I don’t trust all the stances in the game. I’ve voiced suspicions of many players’ stances including your own.

I town read your three suspects to varying degrees. I don’t think it’s hard to see their interaction with you from their perspective. It’s a little harder to see it from your perspective.

Ok, thanks for your answer.
Do you think my suspicion on Nutella and SPF are baseless?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

@Michelle, I wouldn’t say baseless. Perhaps “unconvincing”. I don’t really see it at all for nutella. I can entertain it for SPF, and am kind of jostling that around in my brain now along with the rest of Bread Mafia.

[Michelle]

From a purely theoretical perspective, I certainly think it’s best to try to be understanding. Human communication is often garbage, regardless of language or intentions or emotions. I want to understand people and try to sort the mess.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Thanks Michelle, as are you. Finalists4Lyfe

[Michelle]

@Michelle, I wouldn’t say baseless. Perhaps “unconvincing”. I don’t really see it at all for nutella. I can entertain it for SPF, and am kind of jostling that around in my brain now along with the rest of Bread Mafia.

Mac had Nutella in lock town.
I would sheep him 100% if she wouldn't base on meta and her possibility to meta read me the solve for my slot. Not just how she did it but also the way she looked convinced, for LC and for me, that we have to be lynched.
For sure you have more experience with her than me and for sure you can't feel what I am feeling when someone else is declaring specialist in my meta, saying that town me is never doing a thing or another.

I can make a truce, i can ignore her completely for today and
[VOTE: unvote] aubergine

[VOTE: SPF] aubergine

[Michelle]

Spoiler: show

Who's getting baked today? (It takes 9 votes to hammer the bread)
Poll runs till Mon Jan 25, 2021 5:00 am
Please note that if you vote, your vote will be visible.

You may select 1 option


Alison
0
No votes
Voters: None
DaughterOfOmega
0
No votes
Voters: None
DkKoba
0
No votes
Voters: None
EllieDelight
4
22%
Voters: Esooa, DaughterOfOmega, Made, nutella
Esooa
0
No votes
Voters: None
Grogu
0
No votes
Voters: None
JaggedJimmyJay
0
No votes
Voters: None
Made
5
28%
Voters: staypositivefriend, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, tutuu, EllieDelight, JaggedJimmyJay
Michelle
1
6%
Voters: Grogu
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
0
No votes
Voters: None
nutella
0
No votes
Voters: None
staypositivefriend
1
6%
Voters: Michelle
tutuu
1
6%
Voters: DkKoba
No Bake
0
No votes
Voters: None
Unvote
1
6%
Voters: Alison
Pizza!!! (Host, Mods, Nonplayers, Deads)
5
28%
Voters: MacDougall, juliets, Marmot, MartinGG99, Master Radishes
Total votes: 18

And the VC

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I also usually read you correctly so...not sure where the comparison is?

You usually don’t read me at all you coward. Follow Mac’s lead. He found me in his soul.

What

This is like

Demonstrably untrue lol

[Michelle]

Thanks Michelle, as are you. Finalists4Lyfe

[Esooa]

Ellie is always mafia and spf is mafia an extremely large amount of the time for the way she's acting hedgey. I'm surprised no ones pointed it out but whatever. Spf is following suite in reads, behind myself and nutella. She's agreeable to a decently large portion of them. But rn the awkwardness to which she shows the idea that there's only one mafia in Ellie/Michelle/made is just, really bad. If people believe there's two, that's two mislynches after we flip Ellie red. She's positioning herself to flip on it if I push that there's only one hard enough while also trying to say there's two in there

along with other things

Alison is the third mafia for the awkward distancing going on between herself and spf

[JaggedJimmyJay]

[VOTE: Ellie] aubergine

[Esooa]

Ellie is always mafia and spf is mafia an extremely large amount of the time for the way she's acting hedgey. I'm surprised no ones pointed it out but whatever. Spf is following suite in reads, behind myself and nutella. She's agreeable to a decently large portion of them. But rn the awkwardness to which she shows the idea that there's only one mafia in Ellie/Michelle/made is just, really bad. If people believe there's two, that's two mislynches after we flip Ellie red. She's positioning herself to flip on it if I push that there's only one hard enough while also trying to say there's two in there

along with other things

Alison is the third mafia for the awkward distancing going on between herself and spf

like it feels way more like spf is trying to position herself well for reads in regards to these three depending on where we go, more so than she is trying to solve

[tutuu]

I'm considering switching to Ellie.

@Made can you please explain what is the emotion that you felt that caused you to write "what the fuck is this game"?

@Made don't believe you responded

[Made]

I'm considering switching to Ellie.

@Made can you please explain what is the emotion that you felt that caused you to write "what the fuck is this game"?

@Made don't believe you responded

Hi yes, it was the whole “ight cool let’s hammer Michelle...erm jk Made....Ellie?” Not saying it doesn’t make sense—my vote is there too. it’s just so messy

[tutuu]

Alright

[VOTE: Ellie] aubergine

[tutuu]

I'm bored, let's bake us a wolf already

[Michelle]

Spoiler: show

Who's getting baked today? (It takes 9 votes to hammer the bread)
Poll runs till Mon Jan 25, 2021 5:00 am
Please note that if you vote, your vote will be visible.

You may select 1 option


Alison
0
No votes
Voters: None
DaughterOfOmega
0
No votes
Voters: None
DkKoba
0
No votes
Voters: None
EllieDelight
6
32%
Voters: Esooa, DaughterOfOmega, JaggedJimmyJay, Made, nutella, tutuu
Esooa
0
No votes
Voters: None
Grogu
0
No votes
Voters: None
JaggedJimmyJay
0
No votes
Voters: None
Made
3
16%
Voters: staypositivefriend, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, EllieDelight
Michelle
1
5%
Voters: Grogu
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
0
No votes
Voters: None
nutella
0
No votes
Voters: None
staypositivefriend
1
5%
Voters: Michelle
tutuu
1
5%
Voters: DkKoba
No Bake
0
No votes
Voters: None
Unvote
1
5%
Voters: Alison
Pizza!!! (Host, Mods, Nonplayers, Deads)
6
32%
Voters: MacDougall, juliets, Marmot, MartinGG99, Hally, Master Radishes

Ellie's wagon at 6 votes rn

please let the day until it's fully played

[DkKoba]

me, waking up to seeing michelle wagon dissipated after I said she was town yesterday : (:

[DkKoba]

skimming this page i see that the mac kill was absolutely intentional based on the reads they had d1.

[DkKoba]

wait why am i voting tutuu and not nutella

[Esooa]

skimming this page i see that the mac kill was absolutely intentional based on the reads they had d1.

why

[DkKoba]

skimming this page i see that the mac kill was absolutely intentional based on the reads they had d1.

why

the discussion going on + how the positionijng was against u daystart

[Esooa]

skimming this page i see that the mac kill was absolutely intentional based on the reads they had d1.

why

the discussion going on + how the positionijng was against u daystart

but what reads was he killed for

[DkKoba]

skimming this page i see that the mac kill was absolutely intentional based on the reads they had d1.

why

the discussion going on + how the positionijng was against u daystart

but what reads was he killed for

having u as scum and nutella as town

but i dont think it was bc mac threatened anyone with how they were approaching the game at all

or maybe im completely wrong and for whatever reason scum thought that they were pr lmfao

[Esooa]

nutella is town and I'm town so I don't get the association

[DkKoba]

i dont think nutella is town

[DkKoba]

[VOTE: made] aubergine

i wanna see where this goes + i dont like the other wagon cuz ppl i dont think are town are on it.

[Esooa]

your vote makes no sense

[DkKoba]

your vote makes no sense

neither do the 2 wagons rn but like i said d1: wake me up when its d3 cuz theres way too many ppl rn.

[DkKoba]

im intentionally doing things for reasons and I won't elaborate until its d3