Bread Mafia [Game Over]

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Like not having any read at all on me, from you specifically, is absolutely wild

[JaggedJimmyJay]

My 3-name solve of the day TM is ellie/spf/nook

I Could See It®

[DkKoba]

pretend i have a lot of site clout and sheep me on the vote ~

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Trouble with Nanook is I don't think I can find any post he has made that he couldn't have made as a mafioso. Factor in the sometimes weird reads and there's cause for concern.

Idk that I’ve ever made a single post as town that I was incapable of making as scum, and trying to read people on the basis of what is theoretically possible instead of on the basis of what is probable is a recipe for bad tinfoils

Maybe, but you're never getting tinfoiled

Overtly town-seeming people get tinfoiled

It's not just theory. Your reads have been weird and static.

I don’t think my reads have been weird

What do you find weird about them

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Yes I’m obvious town

And you should either admit that or have the cajones to scumread me

I'm obvious town

And you should either admit that or have the cajones to scumread me

[DkKoba]

Yes I’m obvious town

And you should either admit that or have the cajones to scumread me

I'm obvious town

And you should either admit that or have the cajones to scumread me

I'm obvious town

And you should either admit that or have the cajones to scumread me

[JaggedJimmyJay]

What do you find weird about them

You town cored Ellie and Michelle on like Day 0

[nutella]

My 3-name solve of the day TM is ellie/spf/nook

I Could See It®

I'm ready for the sweet release of death

[JaggedJimmyJay]

What do you find weird about them

You town cored Ellie and Michelle on like Day 0

[Esooa]

Like not having any read at all on me, from you specifically, is absolutely wild

why from me specifically? I think other people are scum but if they're not you die next for being null, that's literally the point of null reading you. I think my scum should be baked first, and if any of those are wrong, you go to the scum list

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Yes I’m obvious town

And you should either admit that or have the cajones to scumread me

I'm obvious town

And you should either admit that or have the cajones to scumread me

I’m not esooa and you’re not a null read

[DkKoba]

ok im being ignored bye

[DaughterOfOmega]

I don't give town reads out to players who want to post like Nanook, it's up to them to appear towny and appeal to others in this game. He is scummy and that is all my vote cares about, I've lost enough games in my life listening to "styles or meta"

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Yes I’m obvious town

And you should either admit that or have the cajones to scumread me

I'm obvious town

And you should either admit that or have the cajones to scumread me

I’m not esooa and you’re not a null read

What am I?

[DkKoba]

Yes I’m obvious town

And you should either admit that or have the cajones to scumread me

I'm obvious town

And you should either admit that or have the cajones to scumread me

I’m not esooa and you’re not a null read

What am I?

a snake

[JaggedJimmyJay]

a snake

i'm bread

you're bread

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

What do you find weird about them

You town cored Ellie and Michelle on like Day 0

Right, and what do you find weird about that?

[DkKoba]

thats multigrain bread to you sir

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Yes I’m obvious town

And you should either admit that or have the cajones to scumread me

I'm obvious town

And you should either admit that or have the cajones to scumread me

I’m not esooa and you’re not a null read

What am I?

Fringe POE

[JaggedJimmyJay]

What do you find weird about them

You town cored Ellie and Michelle on like Day 0

Right, and what do you find weird about that?

If it ends up correct I'm going to murder you

[nutella]

What do you find weird about them

You town cored Ellie and Michelle on like Day 0

Right, and what do you find weird about that?

If it ends up correct I'm going to murder you

Nah Ellie is his teammate

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

What do you find weird about them

You town cored Ellie and Michelle on like Day 0

Right, and what do you find weird about that?

If it ends up correct I'm going to murder you

That doesn’t tell me anything about what you think is weird or not my usual town approach wrt me making those reads

[nutella]

ellie spf nook ellie spf nook ellie spf nook

im arya stark reciting my kill list

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Like fuck dude if you think it’s weird it shouldn’t be this much of a pain in the ass for you to tell me what’s weird about it

[Esooa]

I wanna hammer Ellie so bad

[nutella]

Like fuck dude if you think it’s weird it shouldn’t be this much of a pain in the ass for you to tell me what’s weird about it

they were both scummy on d0

[JaggedJimmyJay]

That doesn’t tell me anything about what you think is weird or not my usual town approach wrt me making those reads

Your "town approach" is inside your head and rarely makes its way into posts. You make reads and leave us to judge them at face value. So I have.

If I think your reads are unjustifiable, I am not going to town read you.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Nah Ellie is his teammate

Could Be®

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Like fuck dude if you think it’s weird it shouldn’t be this much of a pain in the ass for you to tell me what’s weird about it

they were both scummy on d0

I’m not asking you

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

That doesn’t tell me anything about what you think is weird or not my usual town approach wrt me making those reads

Your "town approach" is inside your head and rarely makes its way into posts. You make reads and leave us to judge them at face value. So I have.

If I think your reads are unjustifiable, I am not going to town read you.

What about them is unjustifiable?

I wasn’t the only person to hard TR Ellie early—why is it only weird for me?

I wasn’t the only person to TR Michelle early (Mac at least had her towncore or close IIRC), and I have a history of (accurately) reading Michelle very quickly

So back this weird accusation up or gtfo

[JaggedJimmyJay]

What about them is unjustifiable?

I wasn’t the only person to hard TR Ellie early—why is it only weird for me?

I wasn’t the only person to TR Michelle early (Mac at least had her towncore or close IIRC), and I have a history of (accurately) reading Michelle very quickly

So back this weird accusation up or gtfo

You're the only one that hasn't budged from that read. Alison made a snap judgment, and wasn't still there even by the end of Day 1. That's what I mean when I say your reads are static. You picked a game to perceive this to be on Day 0 and you still perceive the same game. That doesn't have to mean you're mafia, but I don't have any good reason to trust you.

I've also been saying this to you all game long, so spare me the "weird accusation" garbage.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

“Weird accusation” as in your accusation that they’re weird.

And, like, do you honestly think that fairly static reads is scummy for me?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

“Weird accusation” as in your accusation that they’re weird.

And, like, do you honestly think that fairly static reads is scummy for me?

Static reads on their own power, not really. Static reads on players that have sent everyone else on roller coaster rides, maybe. I have reason to doubt that your game-long town read on Ellie is an honest one. That's my biggest issue.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I also kind of doubt that you can't see the town in me by now, but I won't press the matter.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

“Weird accusation” as in your accusation that they’re weird.

And, like, do you honestly think that fairly static reads is scummy for me?

Static reads on their own power, not really. Static reads on players that have sent everyone else on roller coaster rides, maybe. I have reason to doubt that your game-long town read on Ellie is an honest one. That's my biggest issue.

I haven’t seen her do anything that makes she think she isn’t new town doing her best in a new environment, and unless she’s mafia with exactly esooa (given my TR on esooa, I find this unlikely), I think the amount of uh...boldness, or brashness, neither quite the right word but perhaps you get the gist, is significantly >rand town for a new player on a new site playing with new people

[Esooa]

counter point: it's not

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I also kind of doubt that you can't see the town in me by now, but I won't press the matter.

I mean

You’re fringe poe

Largely cause if the game isn’t easy you’re one of the places I’m looking

But, like

I don’t think I’d ever push you before being sure that the game isn’t easy

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I mean

You’re fringe poe

Largely cause if the game isn’t easy you’re one of the places I’m looking

But, like

I don’t think I’d ever push you before being sure that the game isn’t easy

That's fine. My stance on you is basically the same thing.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I mean

You’re fringe poe

Largely cause if the game isn’t easy you’re one of the places I’m looking

But, like

I don’t think I’d ever push you before being sure that the game isn’t easy

That's fine. My stance on you is basically the same thing.

I’m in almost everyone’s POE lol the game isn’t hard if I’m mafia

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I believe @Alison had a confident town read on Nanook, so it'd be super to hear more about that.

[staypositivefriend]

hi, i'm catching up right now

anyone want me to address/give my take on anything?

[nutella]

hi, i'm catching up right now

anyone want me to address/give my take on anything?

1) before finishing catchup, what is your current read of nanook?

2) then read the exchange between nook and jay over the last page or two and tell me what you think (mostly of nanook specifically)

[staypositivefriend]

Would a prudent towny go to bed when i had 7 votes on me like she did?

It’s a reasonable question. I can’t blame SPF for needing to sleep, but I don’t go to bed early in a day phase and let a wagon sit at L-2. I unvote or move just to stall a hammer.

to be quite honest, i was completely unaware that the wagon was at L-2 when i voted. you can blame that on me not being sober at the time, or sleepiness, or etc, but the votecount was something i did not pay attention to

[staypositivefriend]

hi, i'm catching up right now

anyone want me to address/give my take on anything?

1) before finishing catchup, what is your current read of nanook?

2) then read the exchange between nook and jay over the last page or two and tell me what you think (mostly of nanook specifically)

nanook is a townlean because of something i picked up from him regarding his read progression on esooa earlier today, but i have the least concrete reasons to townread him out of the most people in my towncore

[nutella]

I feel like you weighed his esooa progression too strongly and keep falling back on it

[staypositivefriend]

I feel like you weighed his esooa progression too strongly and keep falling back on it

i could be weighing it too strongly - i just read his exchange with jagged and it didn't do anything for me at all. his tone was deflective and i find it awkward for him to call himself confirmed town while simultaneously arguing that there are no posts he could make in this game that he wouldn't be capable of making as scum

[staypositivefriend]

also nutella, reading through the last couple of pages made me feel like you might be moving toward confirmation bias territory w/your scumread on me, and i really hope that you don't

when i skim through the thread and see a bunch of scumreads/tinfoiling on me, my first instinct is to combat it and shut down the reasoning - but i don't think that's good for the gamestate or for anyones reads

i'm gonna step back, write a trustfall, and see where it takes me

[Esooa]

your day 3 is probably going to have to be convincing me that someone who isn't you is more likely Ellie's partner if I'm alive, is what I'm headed to

[Esooa]

I feel bad for scum reading spf but at the same time I always do lmao

[nutella]

hourly reminder spf wolf