Bread Mafia [Game Over]

[DaughterOfOmega]

by the way, if SPF is jailkeeper, this is the setup with a Vig. I see no reason for Vig to not have shot yet. It's easy to see scum!Tutuu carrying the kill and vigging, blocking both of these

I am holding

[staypositivefriend]

in light of me, made, michelle, and ellie all being town, it's obvious that the scum have been manipulating this game and pulling it into a certain narrative. i felt consistently throughout yesterday that something was "weird" about this game - and it's obvious now that the thing i found so weird was the fact that the scum was bruteforcing the POE into a specific direction

in my opinion, a reveal like this should make every town player here start their reads over from scratch & use that information to determine who's been pushing the game into a direction that's advantageous for scum

[nutella]

[VOTE: alison] aubergine

Feeling this most atm lol

[JaggedJimmyJay]

SPF can always jail the killer N3.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

by the way, if SPF is jailkeeper, this is the setup with a Vig. I see no reason for Vig to not have shot yet. It's easy to see scum!Tutuu carrying the kill and vigging, blocking both of these

No lol, that would be terrible

[staypositivefriend]

by the way, if SPF is jailkeeper, this is the setup with a Vig. I see no reason for Vig to not have shot yet. It's easy to see scum!Tutuu carrying the kill and vigging, blocking both of these

interesting point

for full transparency, i used my ability on nutella on n1

[nutella]

by the way, if SPF is jailkeeper, this is the setup with a Vig. I see no reason for Vig to not have shot yet. It's easy to see scum!Tutuu carrying the kill and vigging, blocking both of these

Oh danggg hmm

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

As I consider who to add to my POE in SPF's place, I'm not sure anyone would make sense [in purely mechanical terms] other than tutuu. She could have been saved. She could have been kill-blocked. The existence of the mechanic means she is more implicated than the average player.

The odds are exactly the same

[Made]

D3:mislynch 11/3
N3: kill plus vig 9/3 (assuming not used)
D4:mislynch 8/3
N4: kill 7/3
D5: mislynch mafia wins

[nutella]

Would be good if mafia vig was blocked lmao

[staypositivefriend]

Spf I love you but your mech is incorrect

Tutu isn’t mech confirmed

Mafia have two KP one night so we get three actual mech confirms today (you/made/Michelle, assuming no CCs), and one tomorrow

It would’ve been better if you could’ve made it through the day and potentially gotten a save off tonight, giving us an extra day with a confirm


That said, it’s fine

you're right - i jumped the gun on calling her "mechanically cleared" - that's not accurate

[JaggedJimmyJay]

As I consider who to add to my POE in SPF's place, I'm not sure anyone would make sense [in purely mechanical terms] other than tutuu. She could have been saved. She could have been kill-blocked. The existence of the mechanic means she is more implicated than the average player.

The odds are exactly the same

yeah you're right I'm dumb

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Actually that’s not true, it’s slightly more likely she’s town than random, likelihood of her being mafia and carrying KP is lower relative to likelihood of her being town that was shot at

But yeah functionally her odds of being mafia remain the same

[Esooa]

by the way, if SPF is jailkeeper, this is the setup with a Vig. I see no reason for Vig to not have shot yet. It's easy to see scum!Tutuu carrying the kill and vigging, blocking both of these

No lol, that would be terrible

why? Tutuu was an unlikely target last night imo

[DaughterOfOmega]

Nutella could have been a save n1 then, possible?

[Made]

poll

Spoiler: show

Alison
1
13%


Voters: nutella

DaughterOfOmega
1
13%


Voters: NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

DkKoba
0
No votes


Voters: None

Esooa
0
No votes


Voters: None

Grogu
0
No votes


Voters: None

JaggedJimmyJay
0
No votes


Voters: None

Made
0
No votes


Voters: None

Michelle
0
No votes


Voters: None

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
1
13%


Voters: Made

nutella
1
13%


Voters: DkKoba

staypositivefriend
1
13%


Voters: Esooa

tutuu
0
No votes


Voters: None

No Bake
0
No votes


Voters: None

Unvote
0
No votes


Voters: None

Croissant!!! (Host, Mods, Nonplayers, Deads)
3
38%


Voters: Epignosis, juliets, Marmot

[DaughterOfOmega]

by the way, if SPF is jailkeeper, this is the setup with a Vig. I see no reason for Vig to not have shot yet. It's easy to see scum!Tutuu carrying the kill and vigging, blocking both of these

No lol, that would be terrible

why? Tutuu was an unlikely target last night imo

Turns out you are wrong

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

in light of me, made, michelle, and ellie all being town, it's obvious that the scum have been manipulating this game and pulling it into a certain narrative. i felt consistently throughout yesterday that something was "weird" about this game - and it's obvious now that the thing i found so weird was the fact that the scum was bruteforcing the POE into a specific direction

in my opinion, a reveal like this should make every town player here start their reads over from scratch & use that information to determine who's been pushing the game into a direction that's advantageous for scum

Or town have been hard pushing town

Either way I’m not starting from scratch lol

[staypositivefriend]

@Made and Michelle -

i'm playing with the assumption that you're both 100% clear today. my reads have been "off" this game, and that means having two people that i can trust and share thoughts with will be extremely valuable today. i hope that we can work together and save this game

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Omega feels kinda caught right now

Spoiler: show

[nutella]

Keep calm and vote Alison


Man why this thread have to be so exciting when I so desperately need rest

[Esooa]

by the way, if SPF is jailkeeper, this is the setup with a Vig. I see no reason for Vig to not have shot yet. It's easy to see scum!Tutuu carrying the kill and vigging, blocking both of these

No lol, that would be terrible

why? Tutuu was an unlikely target last night imo

Turns out you are wrong

I'm not wrong. Unlikely things happen

[DaughterOfOmega]

So I'm like at

Myself
SPF
Made
Michelle
Nutella

are town

the game seems very easily solved.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

by the way, if SPF is jailkeeper, this is the setup with a Vig. I see no reason for Vig to not have shot yet. It's easy to see scum!Tutuu carrying the kill and vigging, blocking both of these

No lol, that would be terrible

why? Tutuu was an unlikely target last night imo

Double carrying is bad in almost every team for starters

Also using double KP on N2 without any claims out is weird and unlikely imo

[JaggedJimmyJay]

So I'm like at

Myself
SPF
Made
Michelle
Nutella

are town

the game seems very easily solved.

You need two more townies to lock it down. Who dey?

[Made]

@Made and Michelle -

i'm playing with the assumption that you're both 100% clear today. my reads have been "off" this game, and that means having two people that i can trust and share thoughts with will be extremely valuable today. i hope that we can work together and save this game

yeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

(but for real for real )

game is moving dummy fast, but i'll @ ya'll if there's something i really want to run by you

[DaughterOfOmega]

Omega feels kinda caught right now

Spoiler: show

Jay: "Pushes an agenda of SPF being mafia"

DOOM: "Has called SPF town all game and protected her, even on the day I could pile onto her easily, prior to claim."

SPF: "Claims JK"

Jay: "I think this makes DOOM look caught"

Logical steps were made here

Spoiler: show

lmao

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Anyways the town are

Made
Michelle
Spf

Tutu
Esooa
Nutella

Jay goes last in the POE if necessary


Easy game, scum should probably be CCing

[Esooa]

by the way, if SPF is jailkeeper, this is the setup with a Vig. I see no reason for Vig to not have shot yet. It's easy to see scum!Tutuu carrying the kill and vigging, blocking both of these

No lol, that would be terrible

why? Tutuu was an unlikely target last night imo

Double carrying is bad in almost every team for starters

Also using double KP on N2 without any claims out is weird and unlikely imo

I'd assume mafia would want to use their KP early but idk maybe not

[nutella]

Alison bout to say some manipulative shit don't listen to her

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Omega feels kinda caught right now

Spoiler: show

Jay: "Pushes an agenda of SPF being mafia"

DOOM: "Has called SPF town all game and protected her, even on the day I could pile onto her easily, prior to claim."

SPF: "Claims JK"

Jay: "I think this makes DOOM look caught"

Logical steps were made here

Spoiler: show

lmao

I actually just had you on a team with SPF, gun to my head. It's a read. Calling a read an "agenda" is meaningless.

I asked you a few questions about your reads earlier that you should address. Lemme fetch them again.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

by the way, if SPF is jailkeeper, this is the setup with a Vig. I see no reason for Vig to not have shot yet. It's easy to see scum!Tutuu carrying the kill and vigging, blocking both of these

No lol, that would be terrible

why? Tutuu was an unlikely target last night imo

Double carrying is bad in almost every team for starters

Also using double KP on N2 without any claims out is weird and unlikely imo

I'd assume mafia would want to use their KP early but idk maybe not

Their KP was clearly never in serious danger if all claims are real, so you probably want to hold it to take out claims late, otherwise you can just get turbo fucked

So yeah, basically you want to use KP if you think you might lose it, if you think they’re safe you want to hold it for claims

[DaughterOfOmega]

Omega feels kinda caught right now

Spoiler: show

Jay: "Pushes an agenda of SPF being mafia"

DOOM: "Has called SPF town all game and protected her, even on the day I could pile onto her easily, prior to claim."

SPF: "Claims JK"

Jay: "I think this makes DOOM look caught"

Logical steps were made here

Spoiler: show

lmao

I actually just had you on a team with SPF, gun to my head. It's a read. Calling a read an "agenda" is meaningless.

I asked you a few questions about your reads earlier that you should address. Lemme fetch them again.

nah I saw them but there is no real reason to answer, the questions are just a trap to push an agenda because you already know my answer to them

[JaggedJimmyJay]

@DaughterOfOmega, I would appreciate it if you could do me a solid and respond to these:

Post 1

Post 2

[tutuu]

Good mornin sunshines whats cookin

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Good mornin sunshines whats cookin

Someone tried to shoot you probably

[DaughterOfOmega]

I think the game is like turbo easy

Alison
Koba
Grogu
Jay
nanook

do we have 5 kills? if so gg

[JaggedJimmyJay]

nah I saw them but there is no real reason to answer, the questions are just a trap to push an agenda because you already know my answer to them

Oh so suddenly I'm so scum that you can't answer my questions? That's an agenda.

I have no idea what your answer is. That's why I asked.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I’m so glad I stayed awake this would’ve been a pain to sort through after the fact

[Esooa]

by the way, if SPF is jailkeeper, this is the setup with a Vig. I see no reason for Vig to not have shot yet. It's easy to see scum!Tutuu carrying the kill and vigging, blocking both of these

No lol, that would be terrible

why? Tutuu was an unlikely target last night imo

Double carrying is bad in almost every team for starters

Also using double KP on N2 without any claims out is weird and unlikely imo

I'd assume mafia would want to use their KP early but idk maybe not

Their KP was clearly never in serious danger if all claims are real, so you probably want to hold it to take out claims late, otherwise you can just get turbo fucked

So yeah, basically you want to use KP if you think you might lose it, if you think they’re safe you want to hold it for claims

okay, prob tru then

[staypositivefriend]

@jagged -

do you think there's any particularly strong reason you should be townread right now?

because a huge part of the reason why you were perceived as "clear" early on is because you did not try to interrupt or integrate yourself into the consensus POE - i heard this narrative spoken and reinforced multiple times

but does your trajectory in this game not perfectly fit how jagged!scum would play? if you are scum, you've had a smooth & easy ride being able to push on the now-confirmed town

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Looks like alison fell asleep crafting the perfect CC, jet lag is a bitch, riperino

[Esooa]

Town
Made
Michelle
nutella
DkKoba
staypositivefriend

tutuu

Likely town
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME


PoE, ordered

JaggedJimmyJay
DaughterOfOmega
Grogu
Alison

ebwop this first post never happened :^)

[staypositivefriend]

something worth noting is that the scum are almost certainly feeling blindsided right now

coming into today, made, michelle, and myself were all viable chop options from the mafias perspective. i would bet that the mafia were banking on at least one of those three being chopped within the next two days

and within a few hours of the day starting, the scum have suddenly lost three very valuable consensus POE chops. this is going to make the scum scramble and force themselves into positions that they might not otherwise have

[nutella]

Looks like alison fell asleep crafting the perfect CC, jet lag is a bitch, riperino

Lol

[tutuu]

Good mornin sunshines whats cookin

Someone tried to shoot you probably

Dude i just woke up and i dreamt someone was trying to mug me and stab me and i ran away. Is that just fate? Im telling u man my dreams are prophetic

[nutella]

something worth noting is that the scum are almost certainly feeling blindsided right now

coming into today, made, michelle, and myself were all viable chop options from the mafias perspective. i would bet that the mafia were banking on at least one of those three being chopped within the next two days

and within a few hours of the day starting, the scum have suddenly lost three very valuable consensus POE chops. this is going to make the scum scramble and force themselves into positions that they might not otherwise have

Yeah

Legit think Alison is frozen

[staypositivefriend]

also jagged, i was a bit confused about how you felt that DOOM's reaction to my claim was "outing" - would you mind expanding on that? or did you just mean that me being confirmed town made DOOM a much more likely scum?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

@jagged -

do you think there's any particularly strong reason you should be townread right now?

because a huge part of the reason why you were perceived as "clear" early on is because you did not try to interrupt or integrate yourself into the consensus POE - i heard this narrative spoken and reinforced multiple times

but does your trajectory in this game not perfectly fit how jagged!scum would play? if you are scum, you've had a smooth & easy ride being able to push on the now-confirmed town

It fits my scum game in that my reads have often been trash, and trash reads benefit mafia. But I am nothing like my mafia game right now. I understand many folks haven't seen it before, and there's not much I can say to them. I should be town read because I have brought immense energy to this game from the start despite the fact that I could barely work up the motivation to play at all. It was a serious relief not to come back after three months and then have to deal with a mafia role.

At this point in my Mafia life I don't expect people to town read me with any confidence short of mafia chops. It's annoying, and it vastly overestimates me, but I also understand the perspective and that's just the way the game goes.

[Esooa]

Good mornin sunshines whats cookin

Someone tried to shoot you probably

Dude i just woke up and i dreamt someone was trying to mug me and stab me and i ran away. Is that just fate? Im telling u man my dreams are prophetic

scum reading this post but eeeeeee eiigneaoirghjaeo;gjharwelio