but also this i think it's possible for koba to say those things to distance
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Idk looks pretty partnery to meJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 2:02 pmSpoiler: show
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esooa world more likely tho I think
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swap esooa and jay places, maybe move grogu above bothnutella wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 2:05 pm@Michelle you asked for my reads and this order tutuu just posted is quite close to my own. with tutuu herself a but lower bc in the case alison flips green i would consider the tutuu scum worlds. Some of the others in the middle could be swapped around, it is always fluctuating
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[Alison, DK, Esooa] is plausible, but it's not a solve that feels correct to me or inspired. It feels default. I would love to just say "sure, that" because I'm sick to death of hunting, but I gotta speak my own troofs.
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I think 1 is invalid since koba did all the rudeness not youJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 2:06 pm1) I wouldn't do that because it's terrible behavior.
2) They said I was gaslighting them and treating them like they're town. That's just not what teammates say. It's very easy.
Confirmation bias may stand in the way, as well as people who are sick of the game and just want to force themselves into a solve so they can feel finished, but it's wrong.
I dont see how 2 is not a thing teammates say. Why is it not?
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give me a breakNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 2:06 pmIdk looks pretty partnery to meJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 2:02 pmSpoiler: show
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btw, last night when i was bringing up the alison/jay/esooa team I'm considering, esooa popped in to say "haha im just a townie tho" and has done basically nothing else
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I agree eso has dropped off a lot day 3
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Koba doing all the rudeness ought to be telling. I was trying to solve the game and they were shitting on my head for it. They were being mean, not "distancing".tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 2:08 pmI think 1 is invalid since koba did all the rudeness not youJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 2:06 pm1) I wouldn't do that because it's terrible behavior.
2) They said I was gaslighting them and treating them like they're town. That's just not what teammates say. It's very easy.
Confirmation bias may stand in the way, as well as people who are sick of the game and just want to force themselves into a solve so they can feel finished, but it's wrong.
I dont see how 2 is not a thing teammates say. Why is it not?
#2 feels obvious to me, but in this environment I doubt I can convince you of that. "You're gaslighting me" (as a culmination of the prior rudeness) is, from a mafioso, a pure discredit that seeks to 1) invalidate my work and my efforts to communicate in a friendly manner, 2) paint me as someone who doesn't deserve to be engaged, and 3) assert that I am TMIing them as town by mistake.
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feeling p good about that solve rn. jay can only discredit so much, and i think he twisted his esooa/alison analysis to come out sounding like a more confident dissociation than it had any right to be when actually examining the interactions
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General question to Alison voters. Please be honest with yourselves first, and then with me:
Is your suspicion of Alison driven largely by the perspective of the game you held prior to Day 3, or prior to the claims on Day 3? That is: are you forcing yourself through a confirmation of old or dated perspectives from a prior game state that resulted in a horrible consensus POE and two mischops?
Is your suspicion of Alison driven largely by the perspective of the game you held prior to Day 3, or prior to the claims on Day 3? That is: are you forcing yourself through a confirmation of old or dated perspectives from a prior game state that resulted in a horrible consensus POE and two mischops?
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jay is tmiing koba town lol!! but actually tho i think he's glad to have an incorrect accusation to deny and is ignoring my correct one
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I don't really fault you for feeling that way, but I think you conf-biased yourself out of agreeing with some of my best points because some part of you wants it to be correct (i.e. you're exhausted of this game and want to finish a solve more for the sake of being done than for the sake of winning -- I would understand)
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it's a combination of both, I have taken the whole game into accountJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 2:15 pm General question to Alison voters. Please be honest with yourselves first, and then with me:
Is your suspicion of Alison driven largely by the perspective of the game you held prior to Day 3, or prior to the claims on Day 3? That is: are you forcing yourself through a confirmation of old or dated perspectives from a prior game state that resulted in a horrible consensus POE and two mischops?
this is a weird discredit dude lol
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Esooa and Alison are not completely incompatible; it wouldn't blow my mind. But my analysis was a real one, and my conclusions weren't unjustified.
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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 2:08 pmgive me a breakNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 2:06 pmIdk looks pretty partnery to meJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 2:02 pmSpoiler: show
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Lets place those votes on the table lads
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You're doing that nutella thing again where you warp every post into your imagined reality. I asked the question because it's important to me. "discredit" fucking mehnutella wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 2:17 pmit's a combination of both, I have taken the whole game into accountJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 2:15 pm General question to Alison voters. Please be honest with yourselves first, and then with me:
Is your suspicion of Alison driven largely by the perspective of the game you held prior to Day 3, or prior to the claims on Day 3? That is: are you forcing yourself through a confirmation of old or dated perspectives from a prior game state that resulted in a horrible consensus POE and two mischops?
this is a weird discredit dude lol
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a) you are tmiing me town hereJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 2:16 pmI don't really fault you for feeling that way, but I think you conf-biased yourself out of agreeing with some of my best points because some part of you wants it to be correct (i.e. you're exhausted of this game and want to finish a solve more for the sake of being done than for the sake of winning -- I would understand)
b) i acknowledged some of the points were in their favor but it wasn't enough to outweigh the stuff i saw as partnery and i think the strength of your conclusion was unwarranted and contributed to your narrative of narrowing alison worlds
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I ask because the Alison wagon feels like the Ellie chop did. It feels like the kind of thing Dels would rightly criticize as a "we have to chop X"
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lolJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 2:18 pmYou're doing that nutella thing again where you warp every post into your imagined reality. I asked the question because it's important to me. "discredit" fucking mehnutella wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 2:17 pmit's a combination of both, I have taken the whole game into accountJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 2:15 pm General question to Alison voters. Please be honest with yourselves first, and then with me:
Is your suspicion of Alison driven largely by the perspective of the game you held prior to Day 3, or prior to the claims on Day 3? That is: are you forcing yourself through a confirmation of old or dated perspectives from a prior game state that resulted in a horrible consensus POE and two mischops?
this is a weird discredit dude lol
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no it doesn'tJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 2:20 pm I ask because the Alison wagon feels like the Ellie chop did. It feels like the kind of thing Dels would rightly criticize as a "we have to chop X"
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If Alison dies and flips mafia, I don't even care -- I'm probably going to get chopped, but the game will be entirely solvable anyway. Just don't get comfortable you overconfident goobers, because I'm not the one.
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Best argument for mafia Alison would be if DK and Esooa are a bad fit, so I'll look at that.
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you are my least confident link in my current solve and i still feel like you're pretty towny a lot of the time, but more and more you fit with an alison esooa team and i am more seeing some of the things i have identified in the past as your scum tactics. you'd probably be the last one i nail down confidently and i will reevaluate when needed but it's making a lot of sense to me rnJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 2:22 pm If Alison dies and flips mafia, I don't even care -- I'm probably going to get chopped, but the game will be entirely solvable anyway. Just don't get comfortable you overconfident goobers, because I'm not the one.
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You're allowed to suspect me. Just ensure you don't stop taking me seriously. It's very frustrating to have everything I say conf-biased into mafia. I don't need another Dogs vs Catsnutella wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 2:25 pmyou are my least confident link in my current solve and i still feel like you're pretty towny a lot of the time, but more and more you fit with an alison esooa team and i am more seeing some of the things i have identified in the past as your scum tactics. you'd probably be the last one i nail down confidently and i will reevaluate when needed but it's making a lot of sense to me rnJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 2:22 pm If Alison dies and flips mafia, I don't even care -- I'm probably going to get chopped, but the game will be entirely solvable anyway. Just don't get comfortable you overconfident goobers, because I'm not the one.
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Alison Iso part 2
Alison is again displeased with an idea that showed a prudent approach, regarding the feeling I had about the mid day 1 wagons and she is again pushing too much on the idea how come I see her as villager when I know how skilled wolf is she.
I don't think I have energy for more Alison posts now
Why you considered LC mafia for this post?Alison wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 1:37 amAlright, you're mafiaLong Con wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 12:31 am Hmm... okay, well you are obvious scum. Nanook as well. DK is town, Esooa I think I thought was town, Made town, Grogu town, Mac town. JJJ shifty. tutuu pattable. Michelle town, SPF probscum but maybetown.
The idea of a towncore is awful, shoot from the hip, I say!
Next time you want something from me, I expect more politeness. This was a freebie.
Ellie was obviously wrong here, and Alison wss pushing her without mercy. Of course anyone could consider Ellie has an agenda but she was at her 3rd game and this was discussed already, Alison as experienced player could not jump at her like this.Alison wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 1:39 amWhy can't Michelle/SPF be T/T? Just because two players are attacking each other doesn't mean that one is guaranteed mafia.EllieDelight wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 12:44 amI think one is mafia between michelle and spf. spf is also pushing you, so if you're town then that means i have two reason to think she's mafia. if youre mafia though that means Michelle is too so they die. gg ez. unless yall are pulling some 5head play but I don't think soLong Con wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 12:39 amWhoa whoa, why does SPF die if I'm town?EllieDelight wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 12:38 am how many votes to hammer? i want to vote LongCon (if he's town spf dies, gg ez game over) but i dont want to dogpile too fast
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I'm not really comfortable with the way you're lining up exes. Can you go over your preflips slowly and explain the logic for each one? Like why LC mafia = Michelle mafia, etc.
agenda for pushing just LC because he scum read Alison and pocketing me in that momentAlison wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 5:14 amI relate to this and it's why I've treated Michelle with a softer approach lately.MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 5:11 am I think michelle might be town here, it feels like a meta read from my sub conscious lol
I do also think that Michelle is the most likely person in the POE to self-resolve, which is why I have her as the last person to go through in there. Like, I could see her posting herself clear in D2 or D3. I can't see LC doing that.
But she is not pleased with the take from SPFAlison wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 5:14 amWhere did she do that? Did I miss it?staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 5:13 amshe kinda towntold earlier when i engaged w/herMacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 5:11 am I think michelle might be town here, it feels like a meta read from my sub conscious lol
7 players on a wagon is impossible to think that is pure, yet Alison questioned me like I could guess whom exactly was scum. This approach is not towny, as well as the question for Esooa, entertaining the discussion about Ellie's meta, meta who in fact woulds be impossible to seize because of little game experience.Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 1:23 am Hey, I'm sorry for not being around. I've been pretty busy today trying to get a working phone line in order so I can perform my quarantine checkins, and I've been struggling with jet lag as well. There's a lot of posts that's been made and it's midnight so I skimmed most of it. Here's the stuff that stands out most to me.
1) Michelle, you stated earlier that you thought LC was town because his wagon grew too big too fast - ie. that scum wanted to pile on him and kill him. LC's wagon has now broken down and the wagon formations are scattered amongst multiple players. Why do you think this is the case? Under your perspective, did the scum trying to push LC give up and look for other targets?
2) JJJ, what is your current POE? (Sorry if you've said and I didn't see)
3) Esooa, how good are you at reading Ellie, historically?
I believe now that SPF didn't notice how big was the wagon, and in this case Alison after TRing me and pushing SPF because she left the vote like this, looks opportunisticAlison wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 12:22 pm Okay, well, that was the only ping, all my other notifications were just people quoting posts I made.
So my issue here is that Michelle is doing an awful lot of work/solving despite having a lot of pressure on her. I don't remember trying this hard to save herself in Champs finale when she was caught as scum, she just let her teammates bus her and maximize their cred. The situations are different and she might have felt pressured to do more here if her team is weak (eg. if it's Made/Michelle/Grogu), but I'm townreading this last burst of activity from her.
I agree broadly with the sentiment that DOOM's recent posts have been very good, and I am currently towncoring Esooa/nutella/tutuu/koba/nanook with fairly high confidence. I'm not scumreading SPF, but she hasn't made herself as raw town as she claimed she would be, and this particular post pinged me:
Because in this position, SPF was fairly confident Michelle was scum and making up nonsensical reasons ("you're lying about being drunk", etc.) to vote her. The "until she towntells" qualifier read to me as kinda hedgy, like she was leaving herself an out to get out of the wagon without too much scrutiny if she suddenly realizes Michelle is PR or that she'd look bad off Michelle's flip. @staypositivefriend can you elaborate a little about what sort of towntells Michelle could drop that would change your mind about her alignment at this point in time?staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 7:55 am i'm going to bed but i'm probably parking my vote on michelle until she towntells. gnight
why every confirmed villager is in Alison's Poe?Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 12:25 pm Towncore: Esooa/nutella/tutuu/koba/nanook
Knocking on the towncore door: DOOM
High POE: Michelle, SPF
Low POE: Grogu, Made, Ellie
Something like this is where I'm at atm. I think there's a decent chance the team is exactly [Grogu/Made/Ellie], since the interactions make sense to me if it's exactly that.
idk if this is the post I searched for, I think I skipped it because it was about LCs wagon but I picked up the quotes on phone and searching again looks painfulAlison wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 12:49 pmHow exactly did I post at SOD that made you want to villa read me? You've played against scum me a couple of times and I'd be shocked if you think my check-in at SOD was anything I couldn't trivially fake as scum.Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 12:46 pmI sheep Mac on Jay but also i feel Jay is villager willing to solve.
I found earlier reasons to villa read you, because of how you posted when Nut and esooa interacted at sod.
Grogu is not in my villa reads, can go either way
Omega is villager fmpov
Ellie and Made are maybe villagers because i felt in day 1 when i went to sleep that wolves are happy with the gamestate.
Also, what made you think that wolves were happy with the gamestate? That's not a sentiment that I (or a few other people, including flipped town) shared.
Alison is again displeased with an idea that showed a prudent approach, regarding the feeling I had about the mid day 1 wagons and she is again pushing too much on the idea how come I see her as villager when I know how skilled wolf is she.
I don't think I have energy for more Alison posts now
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I dropped off in content today because I don't find it very important to personality interact rn, as well as doing other things. If we're looking for a deep wolf I'm also confident my day 1/day 2 was way too towny to tinfoil so if I care to change the direction of the game I can just case someone and case myself.
I don't need to right now because nutella is scum reading and affirming my read which is nice
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Some early DK/Esooa exchanges (primarily DK posts) don't look teamed at least by tone. Maybe the last one could be called TMI Esooa mafia, but I don't think I care about that.
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This would seem to be incorrect given the thread right now, yes?
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just cause people don't agree rn doesn't mean it's incorrectJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 2:36 pmThis would seem to be incorrect given the thread right now, yes?
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I mean you are being tinfoiled (or just flat suspected, not sure that term even applies now). I think nutella has been more overtly town than you have been. Why her?Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 2:37 pmjust cause people don't agree rn doesn't mean it's incorrectJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 2:36 pmThis would seem to be incorrect given the thread right now, yes?
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this game is at one moment about looking back and rereadingEsooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 2:33 pm I dropped off in content today because I don't find it very important to personality interact rn, as well as doing other things. If we're looking for a deep wolf I'm also confident my day 1/day 2 was way too towny to tinfoil so if I care to change the direction of the game I can just case someone and case myself.
I don't need to right now because nutella is scum reading and affirming my read which is nice
Only the volume style posting will not give you a solid solve if you are villager Esooa
What do you think about early interaction in the game, who pushed who and for what reason, how were the votes forming the wagons, all these have a meaning you should search for.
Being complacent because you succeed to be towny in the first days is not what I expected from you tbh
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I am at a moment where I still can't see Nutella as villager and I don't understand the town read on her, please help
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I think it says something when Alison has not garnered any more votes in over 12 hours, and that I townread all of the current voters.
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@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME what's your solve?
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I said my reason for dropping off is I don't think live interacting rn is necessary. You agree, saying "the game is about looking back and rereading," no? I'm not complacent, but I feel right now it's better and easier for me to let people do their thing itt and see what I think aboutMichelle wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 2:40 pmthis game is at one moment about looking back and rereadingEsooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 2:33 pm I dropped off in content today because I don't find it very important to personality interact rn, as well as doing other things. If we're looking for a deep wolf I'm also confident my day 1/day 2 was way too towny to tinfoil so if I care to change the direction of the game I can just case someone and case myself.
I don't need to right now because nutella is scum reading and affirming my read which is nice
Only the volume style posting will not give you a solid solve if you are villager Esooa
What do you think about early interaction in the game, who pushed who and for what reason, how were the votes forming the wagons, all these have a meaning you should search for.
Being complacent because you succeed to be towny in the first days is not what I expected from you tbh
what I think rn is my vote is on nutella
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I hope that today will finish at the moment when the poll is expiring, and no one will have the lack of patience and hammer the day.
I am not voting Alison on purpose, but if hammer would not exist I would vote her too
I am not voting Alison on purpose, but if hammer would not exist I would vote her too
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can you make a case?Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 2:43 pmI said my reason for dropping off is I don't think live interacting rn is necessary. You agree, saying "the game is about looking back and rereading," no? I'm not complacent, but I feel right now it's better and easier for me to let people do their thing itt and see what I think aboutMichelle wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 2:40 pmthis game is at one moment about looking back and rereadingEsooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 2:33 pm I dropped off in content today because I don't find it very important to personality interact rn, as well as doing other things. If we're looking for a deep wolf I'm also confident my day 1/day 2 was way too towny to tinfoil so if I care to change the direction of the game I can just case someone and case myself.
I don't need to right now because nutella is scum reading and affirming my read which is nice
Only the volume style posting will not give you a solid solve if you are villager Esooa
What do you think about early interaction in the game, who pushed who and for what reason, how were the votes forming the wagons, all these have a meaning you should search for.
Being complacent because you succeed to be towny in the first days is not what I expected from you tbh
what I think rn is my vote is on nutella
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Yeah it says that syndicate doesn’t like to hammerDaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 2:42 pm I think it says something when Alison has not garnered any more votes in over 12 hours, and that I townread all of the current voters.
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I think she has at numerous junctures of the game evidenced that her mindset is coming from an uninformed perspective. It's been small things like recognizing and conveying the attitude and energy of the game during important periods in ways that mafia generally struggle to replicate. It's been the development of her suspicions even as she has contributed to mischops -- I very much got the impression that nutella really did care on Day 2 whether we chopped you or Ellie or Made. They were all town, and for her to be invested as much as I think she was suggests that she really did not know they were all town. It's easy for me to see that in her in this game because I have had a similar experience. It's been her most recent suspicion of me, and responses to my annoyance with that suspicion.
I'm open to the case against nutella, but this may help you understand why I struggle so much with it. If nutella is mafia, the best way for me to get there would be to determine what teams she fits on.
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If she was town, what problem do the mafia have with hammering?NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 2:47 pmYeah it says that syndicate doesn’t like to hammerDaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 2:42 pm I think it says something when Alison has not garnered any more votes in over 12 hours, and that I townread all of the current voters.
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Philosopher's MafiaNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 2:47 pmYeah it says that syndicate doesn’t like to hammerDaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 2:42 pm I think it says something when Alison has not garnered any more votes in over 12 hours, and that I townread all of the current voters.
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not sure why, if you have tutuu and nutella as town, you aren't lock scum reading Alison. I don't think this game is one where a team found only in dk/doom/grogu/Jay is holistically possible
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I reconsidered. I think you can see in my posts why.