Spider-verse Mafia [DAY 6]

[DaisyCloud]

I haven't had my anti depressants in 2 weeks(doctor can't get me a prescription til later this month,) I swear this feeling better not stick around till then

ooc: stay safe, hopefully the time will pass quickly and your doctor will come through for you.

[reywaS]

It's just funny how you are shading someone for missing something when you appear to have missed the fact that she admitted she was fake claiming and rescinded her claim and then claimed a different role entirely. Ya boi isn't following the game.

I just want everyone to know that I knew all of these plot developments.

I'm out

Fuck off Mac. You're behaving like a real shit

ok seriously ive never seen marmot like this before what did you do

omfg this is the most offensive post i have ever read

marmot tells me to fuck off and it's what did I do?

time out for mac before i lose it

I don’t think you’re acting like a shit. I find you very fun and reasonable/reasonable adjacent. Keep it up.

I’m on page 73. I’m at work but I can read at various points in the day and respond in true sloth fashion.

I don’t care for Nutella’s gameplay. I’ve been slow to say anything because honestly Nutella is an imposing figure in the game, but she is reminding me of the last game I remember playing with her. She went hard after me for faulty logic..really tunneled me, got me lynched as town and she ended up scum and maybe even won?

So yeah it’s like that. I don’t get the townie reads she’s gotten at all

[reywaS]

But I’m fully aware that I may be missing something. I’m 9
Pages behind but always plugging away

[Grogu]

Why are players voting michelle?

[Master Radishes]

Why are players voting michelle?

Because she's not done anything close to make herself lock (or at least likely) town and for Michelle that's concerning.

But now she's also claimed, so...

[Master Radishes]

So yeah it’s like that. I don’t get the townie reads she’s gotten at all

There's an intangible element to Nutella's solving that feels genuine. I feel I often read games similarly to her so I want to trust this read even if I can't fully articulate it.

The way she's handled me, for example, feels like a townie trying to figure out whether to trust if I'm actually mech clear or not. Like she's not afraid to do a complete u-turn on me, then do it again when she realises she's misunderstood something. Scum would be more likely to agree I'm clear or whatever and focus their efforts elsewhere.

Feels real to me. Definitely not locking it in, but that's not a slot I'd reconsider until something shakes up the game. So far the flips suggest we're more or less on track atm. So nutella remains a strong town lean for me.

[reywaS]

I'm not even reading posts here.

basically nothing happened in the last 2 days so you're probably good

[Master Radishes]

^that quote made me read Epi's spate of posts at that time (p83 or whatever I've already forgotten).

He sounds like me when I'm properly slanky town who is out of sync with the game.

I know last game I gave Epi a confident townread and was wrong but I mean it this time.

[Master Radishes]

^that quote made me read Epi's spate of posts at that time (p83 or whatever I've already forgotten).

He sounds like me when I'm properly slanky town who is out of sync with the game.

I know last game I gave Epi a confident townread and was wrong but I mean it this time.

Also apparently you guys needed the Mods to come in here and wag their blue widdle fingers? For shame.

[falcon45ca]

I'm not excited about this claim, but with falcon outed, I think mafia could put 2 and 2 together pretty easily, so there probably isn't any harm in outing myself.

I wasn't exactly thrilled with having to claim, but here we are.


Thoughts on nutella?

[Marmot]

boxed wine is pretty underwhelming too

True, but still more enjoyable than boxed soup.

[Marmot]

to clarify, I'm not complaining about role claiming for gambits or info dumping or whatever else. That shit rules and is cool as hell if it's what your into.

but the concept of "we should all just roleclaim and speedrun the game" is boring and shameful to even consider, even when it's allowed.

Listen I personally prefer games like Bread mafia where no mechanics matter. Though when mechanics are all over the place I feel bad for starting the trend of role claiming that loses the game.

I apologize for blaming you earlier, I didn't mean to blame you as if roleclaiming was a bad thing. I don't think it was, I think the level of claiming we've reached still leaves a reasonable chance for town to win and also cleared a bit of a path forward today. And hey! The vig nailed an Inheritor so it's already produced good results.

I was annoyed that I was dragged into it for reasons.

[Marmot]

I'm not excited about this claim, but with falcon outed, I think mafia could put 2 and 2 together pretty easily, so there probably isn't any harm in outing myself.

I wasn't exactly thrilled with having to claim, but here we are.


Thoughts on nutella?

She's a blind spot for me. I'm willing to accept that she's town right now, and I also between her and Mac, I think Mac has higher scum equity.

Still catching up, but what are your thoughts there?

[falcon45ca]

I'm not excited about this claim, but with falcon outed, I think mafia could put 2 and 2 together pretty easily, so there probably isn't any harm in outing myself.

I wasn't exactly thrilled with having to claim, but here we are.


Thoughts on nutella?

She's a blind spot for me. I'm willing to accept that she's town right now, and I also between her and Mac, I think Mac has higher scum equity.

Still catching up, but what are your thoughts there?

She strikes me as opportunistic. I'm def not town reading her as much as before.

[falcon45ca]

Why are players voting michelle?

Why are you voting for me? I've role claimed and have had it confirmed by Marmot.

[falcon45ca]

[VOTE: VOTE MICHELLE] aubergine

[Master Radishes]

[VOTE: VOTE MICHELLE] aubergine

Michelle has also claimed tho

[Marmot]

I'm not excited about this claim, but with falcon outed, I think mafia could put 2 and 2 together pretty easily, so there probably isn't any harm in outing myself.

I wasn't exactly thrilled with having to claim, but here we are.


Thoughts on nutella?

She's a blind spot for me. I'm willing to accept that she's town right now, and I also between her and Mac, I think Mac has higher scum equity.

Still catching up, but what are your thoughts there?

She strikes me as opportunistic. I'm def not town reading her as much as before.

You might be on to something.

I think I'd need to reread today to really tell. Although first up on my slate is to look into BoKnows.


I have Mac and nutella viewed as a bit of a dichotomy. Easiest world is that they're both just town. But in the case we're not in the easiest world, and one of them is mafia, I'd been leaning towards it being Mac based on their treatment of each other. Nutella's read of Mac has fluctuated throughout the game, whereas I don't think Mac's read on nutella has done quite the same. Although reading through Mac's iso, he's voiced some concern that nutella is just sheeping his reads.

That does have me leaning the other way.

[Marmot]

[VOTE: VOTE MICHELLE] aubergine

Yeah, Michelle's clear

[Marmot]

[VOTE: chardonnay] aubergine

[reywaS]

No I dont think you're mafia epi but christ is this stupid

Are you always so condescending to people that don’t have the grasp on the game that you have? That seems disruptive more than helpful IMO.

im really sorry im getting tilted i understand theres been a lot of info to keep track of in this thread and not everyone is going to retain all of it so i shouldnt get so annoyed

i'm largely vibing with kza/doom/esooa and a couple others and seeing the game in similar ways and discrepancies in that are frustrating bc i think if we have a towncore thats on the same page we can solve it

....

I think Reywas's role should be CC'd if one exists because them being killed is okay

Yes please anyone that wants to counter claim my role be my guest.

im really sorry im getting tilted i understand theres been a lot of info to keep track of in this thread and not everyone is going to retain all of it so i shouldnt get so annoyed

i'm largely vibing with kza/doom/esooa and a couple others and seeing the game in similar ways and discrepancies in that are frustrating bc i think if we have a towncore thats on the same page we can solve it

yeah, i think town is on the right tract. As long as townies cant stop sniping each other long enough to solve together.

I've been really back and forth on kza, and esooa. Do you have any open reasons you could link to me? or is this just a matter of how they have been melding with you lately?

how were you feeling about my town core of: Mac, you Omega, Marmot, Raddish?

kza is lockest of lock town for like, literally everything. hes a beacon of townieness, and he was pushing p hard against bo iirc


that's a pretty decent towncore

Maybe Kza is town but you shipping them so hard doesn’t say anything about you.

I want to be helpful so here’s my 3 and 3

Scum lean:

Nutella OTT aggressive takes.
Guilotine lack of logic
Marmot general weirdness vibes that seem scummy in nature

Town lean:

Mac
DoO
Daisy

These three seem the most reasonable to me. I’m 6 pages behind still rn

[Marmot]

Why are players voting michelle?

[VOTE: Focaccia] aubergine

[Marmot]

@reywaS I've been claimed and confirmed, but you'll get there soon :P

[reywaS]

Oh good. I like the marmot.

Btw my list may not be complete. I just want to contribute and those names are the ones that are most in my brain as I’m reading.

[Marmot]

Also, just the fact that reywas is town, and nutella was the one pushing so hard for his chop Day 1 based on that post about 112, I think I'm turning the page on nutella.

[Marmot]

Oh good. I like the marmot.

Btw my list may not be complete. I just want to contribute and those names are the ones that are most in my brain as I’m reading.

Just make sure you skip the parts where I imploded and left lol

[Guillotine]

soup kill means that players who have claimed roles, but live throughout the night are more liekly to be mafia then town right?

in that case cc may not be necessary

Not necessarily.

please I need to know who all claimed what. like, a lot of the players claimed and so what did they claimed. my last 2 brain cells are shorting out and I feel so dumb right now. I'm looking at my notes and I didn't make an actual list myself. please help me.

NO!!!!

but yeah, back to the things that matter. Michelle is a bit ehhhh. She should also be online soon hopefully. we have more reason, other than comparisons between previous games?

her ISO

actually though, voting 112

I think it would be wise to yeet 112 now, I dont know how the lone wolf mechanic works exactly but being wolf means she counts for parity right? Us getting souped means 112 will favor wolves towards reaching parity. By chopping 112 we might earn us an extra day.

please I need to know who all claimed what. like, a lot of the players claimed and so what did they claimed. my last 2 brain cells are shorting out and I feel so dumb right now. I'm looking at my notes and I didn't make an actual list myself. please help me.

good idea let's make a list for the mafia

do you think the entire team of mafia is a bunch of slanking complete unobserved group?

it's been like over a year since I played a game with a large group and it being a role madness and it being an open set up and they are apparently mass claiming for 0 reasons.

infact I only have a memory of 1 game that is going similarly to this one.

but I do recall it. and mafia won. so yes I do think it is important for all town to have at the bearest minimum the same info that town is just giving away freely to mafia.

mafia most likely already have a full list and have who and what and recede claims etc.

so me asking isn't scummy.

why is everyone not trying to work together? why is everyone being so idk you guys are idk. I don't have a way to describe how frustrating some of you are being.

this is public and out there. it is basic information mafia knows.

but hey pardon me for asking for help.

You understand there is a soup kill mechanic in place right?

I don't think that marmot should out who he saw targeting the spider man tbh.

I agree

LQ aren't you a 3p, why are you even involved in this conversation?

And if 112 goes LQ needs to go too.

@DaisyCloud here they are:

112 - Lost Wolf
LordQuas - Hidden 3p secret role
Daughter of Omega - THE Spider Man
Falcon - Scarlet
Marmot - Silk
reywaS - Cyborg

Further to that Master Radishes was essentially outed by 112 as the 6 Armed Spider.

Made claimed Spider-Punk but rescinded.

For fuck's sake! Yah let's help mafia compile a list!

Michelle
6
22%
Voters: @Made , @Esooa , @Epignosis , @nutella , @Marmot , @Guillotine

I am cosmic Spiderman, and i have a long work day ahead, I can't defend myself until very late.

Well shit. [VOTE: 112] aubergine

at this point it might be in towns best interest to lynch 112. I didn't realize they were a tracker and could out wolf-siding info. Enough town is likely going to die tonight that we can't afford a cc 1-1 imo, we need to just hit wolves.

Yeeees!

Mass claiming never works, especially with soup kill mechanics in play. Not to mention in this setup we don't know what roles we're taken out, so the scum could claim one or two of them and then we're back to square one of needing to scum hunt normally and in this scenario the scum now have total info about who is who.

People need to stop claiming as a means of defense. If you're being pressured be townier rather than shrugging and handing the mafia your role.

I townread MR for this. This is the way.

I work 12 hours today, i will try to get in here during lunch time but i will definitely not be here for EOD. We should yeet 112 but i'll go with consensus when i check back here during lunch.

[falcon45ca]

[VOTE: VOTE MICHELLE] aubergine

Michelle has also claimed tho

Well shit, I missed that.

[reywaS]

Okay now I get why people are looking at michelle. She’s on my scum reads replacing marmot

[falcon45ca]

[VOTE: VOTE GROGU] aubergine

[falcon45ca]

How long is Enrique not going to play the game before he gets replaced?

[Marmot]

Okay now I get why people are looking at michelle. She’s on my scum reads replacing marmot

She claimed too.

Yeah, this game's just getting weirder and weirder.

[Marmot]

I forget, is MR cleared for today or now?

[Marmot]

Oh okay. I just had a hard time understanding what you meant by that. Honestly, I still do. Are you saying Guillotine is sus because of the OMGUS or not?

BK questions dya on whether she sus's Guillo or not. Bad look for Guillo since BK didn't actually weigh in on this at all, was only looking for clarification on whether dya sussed him.

[Marmot]

We're voting out BoKnows

okay boomer

Good look for KZA. Actually, this interaction probably doesn't mean much, but I did come across this response from nutella.

We're voting out BoKnows

Nah

Bad look for nutella. Like really bad look. BK had done nothing townie to this point.

[Marmot]

I forget, is MR cleared for today or now?

OMFG. I did a crossword this morning. One of the clues was:

"Not" for "now," e.g.

The answer was "typo"



Then I go and make that typo...

[reywaS]

i would like to blast

michelle (meta and general lackluster)
reywas (general lackluster and bad boknow interactions)
grogu (serious drop off and really weird michelle interactions where he commented on her being lackluster and hard defended her for no reason later. cinnamon roll tho)

and prolly reconsider after that

Just to be clear since you keep your vote on me, are you counter claiming?

[Marmot]

i would like to blast

michelle (meta and general lackluster)
reywas (general lackluster and bad boknow interactions)
grogu (serious drop off and really weird michelle interactions where he commented on her being lackluster and hard defended her for no reason later. cinnamon roll tho)

and prolly reconsider after that

Just to be clear since you keep your vote on me, are you counter claiming?

I think Quas was catching up and hadn't seen your claim yet, I could be wrong.

But here's a list that might help you sort through the rest of the thread. Only new addition is Michelle.

[Marmot]

can we just flip 112s whole wagon to prove me right

don't like this post.

I don't like your posts

look at how scummy this is! and they're on 112

wanting to flip a bunch of people to prove your fallacy right doesn't ping town to me.

This doesn't look like a w/w interaction. Esooa is probably town.

[Marmot]

elephant man giving me town vibes.

Who is elephant man?

nutella.

Sorry Nutella. Elephant lady is giving me town vibes.

I don't feel like reading into this one. But if someone else wants to, here's another BK/nutella interaction.

[Marmot]

nutella and lordquas are definitely giving me the biggest town vibes.
Macs slot seems a little weird to me, wouldn't mind exploring that a little more today.

Eh

Hard to get much from this one, but at least firmly believe that Mac and nutella are not w/w.

[falcon45ca]

Oh okay. I just had a hard time understanding what you meant by that. Honestly, I still do. Are you saying Guillotine is sus because of the OMGUS or not?

BK questions dya on whether she sus's Guillo or not. Bad look for Guillo since BK didn't actually weigh in on this at all, was only looking for clarification on whether dya sussed him.

Guillo pushing 112 right now isn't a good look. It seems like the Wolves want their Lost Wolf out of the picture.

[DaisyCloud]

soup kill means that players who have claimed roles, but live throughout the night are more liekly to be mafia then town right?

in that case cc may not be necessary

Not necessarily.

please I need to know who all claimed what. like, a lot of the players claimed and so what did they claimed. my last 2 brain cells are shorting out and I feel so dumb right now. I'm looking at my notes and I didn't make an actual list myself. please help me.

NO!!!!

but yeah, back to the things that matter. Michelle is a bit ehhhh. She should also be online soon hopefully. we have more reason, other than comparisons between previous games?

her ISO

actually though, voting 112

I think it would be wise to yeet 112 now, I dont know how the lone wolf mechanic works exactly but being wolf means she counts for parity right? Us getting souped means 112 will favor wolves towards reaching parity. By chopping 112 we might earn us an extra day.

please I need to know who all claimed what. like, a lot of the players claimed and so what did they claimed. my last 2 brain cells are shorting out and I feel so dumb right now. I'm looking at my notes and I didn't make an actual list myself. please help me.

good idea let's make a list for the mafia

do you think the entire team of mafia is a bunch of slanking complete unobserved group?

it's been like over a year since I played a game with a large group and it being a role madness and it being an open set up and they are apparently mass claiming for 0 reasons.

infact I only have a memory of 1 game that is going similarly to this one.

but I do recall it. and mafia won. so yes I do think it is important for all town to have at the bearest minimum the same info that town is just giving away freely to mafia.

mafia most likely already have a full list and have who and what and recede claims etc.

so me asking isn't scummy.

why is everyone not trying to work together? why is everyone being so idk you guys are idk. I don't have a way to describe how frustrating some of you are being.

this is public and out there. it is basic information mafia knows.

but hey pardon me for asking for help.

You understand there is a soup kill mechanic in place right?

I don't think that marmot should out who he saw targeting the spider man tbh.

I agree

LQ aren't you a 3p, why are you even involved in this conversation?

And if 112 goes LQ needs to go too.

@DaisyCloud here they are:

112 - Lost Wolf
LordQuas - Hidden 3p secret role
Daughter of Omega - THE Spider Man
Falcon - Scarlet
Marmot - Silk
reywaS - Cyborg

Further to that Master Radishes was essentially outed by 112 as the 6 Armed Spider.

Made claimed Spider-Punk but rescinded.

For fuck's sake! Yah let's help mafia compile a list!

Michelle
6
22%
Voters: @Made , @Esooa , @Epignosis , @nutella , @Marmot , @Guillotine

I am cosmic Spiderman, and i have a long work day ahead, I can't defend myself until very late.

Well shit. [VOTE: 112] aubergine

at this point it might be in towns best interest to lynch 112. I didn't realize they were a tracker and could out wolf-siding info. Enough town is likely going to die tonight that we can't afford a cc 1-1 imo, we need to just hit wolves.

Yeeees!

Mass claiming never works, especially with soup kill mechanics in play. Not to mention in this setup we don't know what roles we're taken out, so the scum could claim one or two of them and then we're back to square one of needing to scum hunt normally and in this scenario the scum now have total info about who is who.

People need to stop claiming as a means of defense. If you're being pressured be townier rather than shrugging and handing the mafia your role.

I townread MR for this. This is the way.

I work 12 hours today, i will try to get in here during lunch time but i will definitely not be here for EOD. We should yeet 112 but i'll go with consensus when i check back here during lunch.

you do realize that I was asking only for those who have made a claim and what they claimed right? I wasn't pr fishing.

I do know there is soup kills.

you do realize if you look around just this last page thst not everyone has read or is caught up in the game thread. so iirc 1 or 2 have voted on peeps who have made a claim.

wolves already are on top of such claims because of soup.

if we had such a list it could prevent wasting time voting on peeps all willy nilly and then having to tell peeps oh hey uh so and so claimed.

now if someone wanted to vote someone regardless of them claiming thst is a different thing altogether.

no we should not post a list of peeps who we think hinted and what etc. that is messed up. I think I clarified enough on this matter.

[Marmot]

Oh okay. I just had a hard time understanding what you meant by that. Honestly, I still do. Are you saying Guillotine is sus because of the OMGUS or not?

BK questions dya on whether she sus's Guillo or not. Bad look for Guillo since BK didn't actually weigh in on this at all, was only looking for clarification on whether dya sussed him.

Guillo pushing 112 right now isn't a good look. It seems like the Wolves want their Lost Wolf out of the picture.

I do find that kind of odd, if I was a wolf right now, I'd want the LW alive because it seems to be the case that the LW would contribute to mafia numbers for winning.

On the flipside, it is contributing to baking a "wolf", but not one of the BTSC variety, so I guess I can see some benefit.



Flipside: I don't see why town would want to chop 112 today (I'll ignore that you and I voted for 112 yesterday )

[reywaS]

please I need to know who all claimed what. like, a lot of the players claimed and so what did they claimed. my last 2 brain cells are shorting out and I feel so dumb right now. I'm looking at my notes and I didn't make an actual list myself. please help me.

good idea let's make a list for the mafia

do you think the entire team of mafia is a bunch of slanking complete unobserved group?

it's been like over a year since I played a game with a large group and it being a role madness and it being an open set up and they are apparently mass claiming for 0 reasons.

infact I only have a memory of 1 game that is going similarly to this one.

but I do recall it. and mafia won. so yes I do think it is important for all town to have at the bearest minimum the same info that town is just giving away freely to mafia.

mafia most likely already have a full list and have who and what and recede claims etc.

so me asking isn't scummy.

why is everyone not trying to work together? why is everyone being so idk you guys are idk. I don't have a way to describe how frustrating some of you are being.

this is public and out there. it is basic information mafia knows.

but hey pardon me for asking for help.

I agree about the lack working together and general frustration. It’s gotta be because a couple mafia are constantly stirring the pot.

I wish I hadn’t felt like I had to expose my role but I could read the writing on the wall. No one wanted to give me the benefit of the doubt and this whole day would have been wasted on me. People always tunnel on to me in early games. That’s frustrating too

[nutella]

We're voting out BoKnows

okay boomer

Good look for KZA. Actually, this interaction probably doesn't mean much, but I did come across this response from nutella.

We're voting out BoKnows

Nah

Bad look for nutella. Like really bad look. BK had done nothing townie to this point.

lol

no

I am town and that should be obvious to anyone who has played with me recently (cough reywas you haven't)

I don't remember what my feeling was at the time of that post but bo hadn't stood out either way and I had other suspects. If I was scum with a low effort teammate like bo I'd have just bussed him when kza (who I know has meta on him) first called him out.

It took me looking out of my rey tunnel to come around on Bo, but I assure you I did

[Marmot]

Switched to Made. Was on Mac no momentum there. If I had to choose between the two leading wagons to be wolf my money is on Made. The wagon on Sawyer doesn't make sense to me. Admittedly Made's game has been pretty okay, but the whole point system with little explanation seems like a "cheap" way to get by.

I don't know what the votes looked like at this point, but if sawyer is town, then BK probably doesn't vote his partner as the counter wagon here. Certainly not 1.5 hours before EOD.

Good look for Made.

[Marmot]

Can't wait to make some ramen topped with chickpeas for the Superbowl tonight!

This sounds pretty good ngl

[nutella]

rey sure seems eager to be counterclaimed. tinfoil hat says what if the scum told him to claim that role because it was one of the most likely to have been cut from the game so could be "safe" but is fishing for a cc just in case

idk otherwise i townlean his recent posts tbh, he sounds like he's solo and out of touch

[nutella]

I need to reread kyle probably

but won't have time to sit down and do that for a while, gotta do my irl job smh