Game of Champions 2020 [ENDGAME]

[MacDougall]

i like tutuu so far- her read on mac is in the range of being just weird enough to qualify as a genuine one

every single one of you cannot read each other as good as I can read you so you all need to just give up if I am scumreading you or if you are lucky enough to be townread just sheep me thank you

You're scum.

I am outside my scumrange.

[nutella]

yes he is capable of being serious, obviously. we aren't clowns all the time

wait ok this post is bad tutuu wtf cmon

i believe its a factual statement

factual statement =/= good post

well maybe in your opinion it isnt a good post but thats your subjective opinion and not a factual statement that my post is bad/scummy

........ok

[nutella]

Nutella's held townread on Tutuu doesn't make sense. She is now >rand mafia.

yo im waffling ok

[Sloonei]

Mac is a jester and he's purposefully being as scummy as he can

Is he being different than usual?

yes? extremely? look at his tone and how he's saying stuff that he doesn't believe in, and he adds a lot of "." at the end of his sentences, and he breaks down his posts to as short sentences as he can. it sounds very sarcastic and he isn't trying to sound serious

The affirmative answer and the subsequent description of Mac’s behavior do not align at all.

this isn't how mac is when he's serious and he's town

What does serious town mac look like?
Is there a version of town mac that is not serious?

i dont need to case it so much, you are asking way too much of me and i have no reason to put so much effort into answering such a vague question any further than i have

This is twice already that you’ve responded to token SlooneiProds by telling me essentially to knock it off. That’s not always an unfair response. My questions can be overbearing, and sometimes that’s partially the point. It was the first time. But this time I feel like I am asking a pair of straightforward and reasonable questions as part of an early dialogue in the game. I do not think my questions are vague at all, and I am not trying to be difficult.

You said you think Mac looks different than he usually does. I don’t see it and am asking for elaboration. Maybe there’s a linguistic divide here. I am struggling with your assertion that Mac “isn’t trying to be taken seriously” as part of your accusation. I see the behavior you are pointing to but I don’t see A) why it’s unusual for him, B) why he would need to be trying to be taken seriously as town, or C) what precisely it means if he is not trying to be taken seriously. There are lots of motives for floating less-than-serious reads on Day 0/1 of a game, for instance.

[nutella]

i think tutuu's tone is closer to her town games than her scum range

yes i know theres not much difference but i detect a little something there

[nutella]

sloonei is town suck it hyena

[Sloonei]

My read on nutella is in development. Check back in later.

u mean develephant

Yes, thank you.

[tutuu]

yes he is capable of being serious, obviously. we aren't clowns all the time

wait ok this post is bad tutuu wtf cmon

i believe its a factual statement

factual statement =/= good post

well maybe in your opinion it isnt a good post but thats your subjective opinion and not a factual statement that my post is bad/scummy

........ok

yea sorry i just like elaboaring "imo" or "i think" or something when im expressing opinions, and i dont when im expressing facts, so when i read opinions that are expressed as facts that i know for a fact are wrong i am always going to reply like this and correct the mistake!

[Sloonei]

I am hereby distracted for the remainder of the evening. May chime in occasionally, but not fully present. Carry on, Champions.

[112]

i like tutuu so far- her read on mac is in the range of being just weird enough to qualify as a genuine one

every single one of you cannot read each other as good as I can read you so you all need to just give up if I am scumreading you or if you are lucky enough to be townread just sheep me thank you

You're scum.

I am outside my scumrange.

With 38 posts?

[MacDougall]

i think tutuu's tone is closer to her town games than her scum range

yes i know theres not much difference but i detect a little something there

Stop vocalising a townread on Tutuu who you demonstrably can't read.

Name one game in which you and her had a town/mafia dynamic where she didn't pocket you?

[MacDougall]

i like tutuu so far- her read on mac is in the range of being just weird enough to qualify as a genuine one

every single one of you cannot read each other as good as I can read you so you all need to just give up if I am scumreading you or if you are lucky enough to be townread just sheep me thank you

You're scum.

I am outside my scumrange.

With 38 posts?

I have a better Mac read than you do.

[112]

Is he being different than usual?

yes? extremely? look at his tone and how he's saying stuff that he doesn't believe in, and he adds a lot of "." at the end of his sentences, and he breaks down his posts to as short sentences as he can. it sounds very sarcastic and he isn't trying to sound serious

The affirmative answer and the subsequent description of Mac’s behavior do not align at all.

this isn't how mac is when he's serious and he's town

What does serious town mac look like?
Is there a version of town mac that is not serious?

i dont need to case it so much, you are asking way too much of me and i have no reason to put so much effort into answering such a vague question any further than i have

This is twice already that you’ve responded to token SlooneiProds by telling me essentially to knock it off. That’s not always an unfair response. My questions can be overbearing, and sometimes that’s partially the point. It was the first time. But this time I feel like I am asking a pair of straightforward and reasonable questions as part of an early dialogue in the game. I do not think my questions are vague at all, and I am not trying to be difficult.

You said you think Mac looks different than he usually does. I don’t see it and am asking for elaboration. Maybe there’s a linguistic divide here. I am struggling with your assertion that Mac “isn’t trying to be taken seriously” as part of your accusation. I see the behavior you are pointing to but I don’t see A) why it’s unusual for him, B) why he would need to be trying to be taken seriously as town, or C) what precisely it means if he is not trying to be taken seriously. There are lots of motives for floating less-than-serious reads on Day 0/1 of a game, for instance.

This post is highly overwritten.

[Syn]

nutella is wolfin'

[tutuu]

This is twice already that you’ve responded to token SlooneiProds by telling me essentially to knock it off. That’s not always an unfair response. My questions can be overbearing, and sometimes that’s partially the point. It was the first time. But this time I feel like I am asking a pair of straightforward and reasonable questions as part of an early dialogue in the game. I do not think my questions are vague at all, and I am not trying to be difficult.

You said you think Mac looks different than he usually does. I don’t see it and am asking for elaboration. Maybe there’s a linguistic divide here. I am struggling with your assertion that Mac “isn’t trying to be taken seriously” as part of your accusation. I see the behavior you are pointing to but I don’t see A) why it’s unusual for him, B) why he would need to be trying to be taken seriously as town, or C) what precisely it means if he is not trying to be taken seriously. There are lots of motives for floating less-than-serious reads on Day 0/1 of a game, for instance.

yea well i responded already in small chunks of posts after this, i pinged u

[MacDougall]

yes? extremely? look at his tone and how he's saying stuff that he doesn't believe in, and he adds a lot of "." at the end of his sentences, and he breaks down his posts to as short sentences as he can. it sounds very sarcastic and he isn't trying to sound serious

The affirmative answer and the subsequent description of Mac’s behavior do not align at all.

this isn't how mac is when he's serious and he's town

What does serious town mac look like?
Is there a version of town mac that is not serious?

i dont need to case it so much, you are asking way too much of me and i have no reason to put so much effort into answering such a vague question any further than i have

This is twice already that you’ve responded to token SlooneiProds by telling me essentially to knock it off. That’s not always an unfair response. My questions can be overbearing, and sometimes that’s partially the point. It was the first time. But this time I feel like I am asking a pair of straightforward and reasonable questions as part of an early dialogue in the game. I do not think my questions are vague at all, and I am not trying to be difficult.

You said you think Mac looks different than he usually does. I don’t see it and am asking for elaboration. Maybe there’s a linguistic divide here. I am struggling with your assertion that Mac “isn’t trying to be taken seriously” as part of your accusation. I see the behavior you are pointing to but I don’t see A) why it’s unusual for him, B) why he would need to be trying to be taken seriously as town, or C) what precisely it means if he is not trying to be taken seriously. There are lots of motives for floating less-than-serious reads on Day 0/1 of a game, for instance.

This post is highly overwritten.

that's just how Sloonei shows you he loves you

[MacDougall]

Tutuu is literally mafia. There is no universe in which the way she has read me makes any sense for her. It is entirely unlike anything she has ever done before. It was probably just her going into attack mode because I pushed onto her teammate Nanook tbh.

[nutella]

i think tutuu's tone is closer to her town games than her scum range

yes i know theres not much difference but i detect a little something there

Stop vocalising a townread on Tutuu who you demonstrably can't read.

Name one game in which you and her had a town/mafia dynamic where she didn't pocket you?

i mean shes only been mafia twice on this site and one of them i didnt play and the other she conceded before i really had a chance to consider her but she wasnt one of my lockest town

[112]

nutella-chan no reads yet? i know its early and u said ur tired but

was just curious

what i have given reads

you town nook scum

others, sloonei prob town, 112 prob town, kyle prob town, hyena i dont wanna be pocketed so reserving judgment, mac uhhhh lock mac

could you explain the townreads here?

[nutella]

yes? extremely? look at his tone and how he's saying stuff that he doesn't believe in, and he adds a lot of "." at the end of his sentences, and he breaks down his posts to as short sentences as he can. it sounds very sarcastic and he isn't trying to sound serious

The affirmative answer and the subsequent description of Mac’s behavior do not align at all.

this isn't how mac is when he's serious and he's town

What does serious town mac look like?
Is there a version of town mac that is not serious?

i dont need to case it so much, you are asking way too much of me and i have no reason to put so much effort into answering such a vague question any further than i have

This is twice already that you’ve responded to token SlooneiProds by telling me essentially to knock it off. That’s not always an unfair response. My questions can be overbearing, and sometimes that’s partially the point. It was the first time. But this time I feel like I am asking a pair of straightforward and reasonable questions as part of an early dialogue in the game. I do not think my questions are vague at all, and I am not trying to be difficult.

You said you think Mac looks different than he usually does. I don’t see it and am asking for elaboration. Maybe there’s a linguistic divide here. I am struggling with your assertion that Mac “isn’t trying to be taken seriously” as part of your accusation. I see the behavior you are pointing to but I don’t see A) why it’s unusual for him, B) why he would need to be trying to be taken seriously as town, or C) what precisely it means if he is not trying to be taken seriously. There are lots of motives for floating less-than-serious reads on Day 0/1 of a game, for instance.

This post is highly overwritten.

112, meet (town)sloonei

[tutuu]

Tutuu is literally mafia. There is no universe in which the way she has read me makes any sense for her. It is entirely unlike anything she has ever done before. It was probably just her going into attack mode because I pushed onto her teammate Nanook tbh.

how so? i interpreted something as something, i talked about it itt a bit, i decided to give up on it and move on

i dont see anything unreasonable or weird here

[nutella]

one thing to consider is GOC is typically multiball, it's been a while (i think since last GOC) since i've played multiball and there can be quite a different dynamic since the mafia can hunt each other so it's easier for them to seem towny

so probably smart to be cautious about those sorts of reads

i still think a lot of types of reads can be >rand tho

[Made]

[112]

Tutuu is literally mafia. There is no universe in which the way she has read me makes any sense for her. It is entirely unlike anything she has ever done before. It was probably just her going into attack mode because I pushed onto her teammate Nanook tbh.

it's a thin line between making stuff up and giving honest but bizarre takes and i'm not really sure where tutuu falls on it tbh

kinda wanting to give her the benefit of the doubt but she's someone we're obviously going to have to revisit a bunch of times D1

[nutella]

Tutuu is literally mafia. There is no universe in which the way she has read me makes any sense for her. It is entirely unlike anything she has ever done before. It was probably just her going into attack mode because I pushed onto her teammate Nanook tbh.

didn't she start shading you before the nook read? or am i misremembering

[Made]

one thing to consider is GOC is typically multiball, it's been a while (i think since last GOC) since i've played multiball and there can be quite a different dynamic since the mafia can hunt each other so it's easier for them to seem towny

so probably smart to be cautious about those sorts of reads

i still think a lot of types of reads can be >rand tho

multiball?

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME how dare you rand mafia without me.

Yeah man it fucking sucks

[tutuu]

one thing to consider is GOC is typically multiball, it's been a while (i think since last GOC) since i've played multiball and there can be quite a different dynamic since the mafia can hunt each other so it's easier for them to seem towny

so probably smart to be cautious about those sorts of reads

i still think a lot of types of reads can be >rand tho

multiball?

multiple mafia teams and/or 3p

[nutella]

nutella-chan no reads yet? i know its early and u said ur tired but

was just curious

what i have given reads

you town nook scum

others, sloonei prob town, 112 prob town, kyle prob town, hyena i dont wanna be pocketed so reserving judgment, mac uhhhh lock mac

could you explain the townreads here?

sloonei is just p obviously in his town style, even more so after that long post but i've caught him d1 in his last two wolf rands and his energy was just so much lower (hes gonna say that was circumstantial or something but meh)

your read on me seemed unlikely for you to do as maf


kyle just feels good/comfortable, that read is less strong

[Hyena]

Okay, for real though? Sloonei is mafia. He's the only one that seems to not be joking around with any of us at the moment. He seems very uncomfortable at the moment, which I also take to mean that he doesn't have any teammates that are active right now. Make a note who's joking around right now.

meh

I will fight you, too!

Okay, for real though? Sloonei is mafia. He's the only one that seems to not be joking around with any of us at the moment. He seems very uncomfortable at the moment, which I also take to mean that he doesn't have any teammates that are active right now. Make a note who's joking around right now.

Sloonei is town in all but one universe and in that universe he's going to get blipped by Thanos anyway.

I will fight you on this.

have you even played with sloonei before?

Yes!

[Made]

one thing to consider is GOC is typically multiball, it's been a while (i think since last GOC) since i've played multiball and there can be quite a different dynamic since the mafia can hunt each other so it's easier for them to seem towny

so probably smart to be cautious about those sorts of reads

i still think a lot of types of reads can be >rand tho

multiball?

multiple mafia teams and/or 3p

ooo, dope! maybe they'll fight each other

[MacDougall]

Tutuu is literally mafia. There is no universe in which the way she has read me makes any sense for her. It is entirely unlike anything she has ever done before. It was probably just her going into attack mode because I pushed onto her teammate Nanook tbh.

how so? i interpreted something as something, i talked about it itt a bit, i decided to give up on it and move on

i dont see anything unreasonable or weird here

I have played in many many games with you. I know what to expect from you. There is nothing that I did that was outside the realms of normality for me. You concocted reasons which is fine but then you kept holding the read and doubled down.

Also this post is prorotypical what caught scum do. You ask me a broad "how so?" when I made several points, not addressing any of the key points. Then you reframed your behaviour removing all context to give yourself a platform to be incredulous and reduce my argument down to wifom.

[MacDougall]

Look at the avatar.

[nutella]

Tutuu is literally mafia. There is no universe in which the way she has read me makes any sense for her. It is entirely unlike anything she has ever done before. It was probably just her going into attack mode because I pushed onto her teammate Nanook tbh.

it's a thin line between making stuff up and giving honest but bizarre takes and i'm not really sure where tutuu falls on it tbh

kinda wanting to give her the benefit of the doubt but she's someone we're obviously going to have to revisit a bunch of times D1

yeah fair

[Made]

oh we haven't played Hyena, nice to meet you!

[Hyena]

i dont rly gotta prove anything though. lets say for the sake of argument we're both town and take that as fact temporarily. if u can argue that my perception of u was off and i should be fixing it, i can easily argue that if ur wrongly scumreading me its ur fault and u should be forced to walk back naked thu burning coals. so like, this "blaming game" of "u did something i dislike" doesntcut it for me / im not gonna play it / im not gonna accept to feel pressured into being towny in case ppl arent interpreting me as towny. im here playing my town game, saying whats on my mind, and it is what it is, im not rly gonna jump thru hoops and loops to please demands

This sounds and feels defensive!

[tutuu]

i think nutella's latests posts were more towny

[nutella]

one thing to consider is GOC is typically multiball, it's been a while (i think since last GOC) since i've played multiball and there can be quite a different dynamic since the mafia can hunt each other so it's easier for them to seem towny

so probably smart to be cautious about those sorts of reads

i still think a lot of types of reads can be >rand tho

multiball?

multiple mafia teams and/or 3p

ooo, dope! maybe they'll fight each other

last goc the mafia teams hunted each other p well but then one of them still won so

town gotta pull its weight

[MacDougall]

Nutella is >rand scum for her reads on Tutuu (holding the town read is already past the point of TMI) and her Mac read (refusing to read me one way or the other when I am blatantly town and she never has any fear of town reading me).

I'm gonna assume at some point in the previous posts I have yet to backread that Nutella made some effort to make me seem insane for my Tutuu read.

[tutuu]

i dont rly gotta prove anything though. lets say for the sake of argument we're both town and take that as fact temporarily. if u can argue that my perception of u was off and i should be fixing it, i can easily argue that if ur wrongly scumreading me its ur fault and u should be forced to walk back naked thu burning coals. so like, this "blaming game" of "u did something i dislike" doesntcut it for me / im not gonna play it / im not gonna accept to feel pressured into being towny in case ppl arent interpreting me as towny. im here playing my town game, saying whats on my mind, and it is what it is, im not rly gonna jump thru hoops and loops to please demands

This sounds and feels defensive!

probably because im getting attacked!

[Hyena]

Nutella's held townread on Tutuu doesn't make sense. She is now >rand mafia.

She might be town for her reaction to my Sloonei read, unless she's scum and actually wants to yeet me for once instead of pocketing me.

[Hyena]

oh we haven't played Hyena, nice to meet you!

Nice to meet you, too, Made!

[Hyena]

i dont rly gotta prove anything though. lets say for the sake of argument we're both town and take that as fact temporarily. if u can argue that my perception of u was off and i should be fixing it, i can easily argue that if ur wrongly scumreading me its ur fault and u should be forced to walk back naked thu burning coals. so like, this "blaming game" of "u did something i dislike" doesntcut it for me / im not gonna play it / im not gonna accept to feel pressured into being towny in case ppl arent interpreting me as towny. im here playing my town game, saying whats on my mind, and it is what it is, im not rly gonna jump thru hoops and loops to please demands

This sounds and feels defensive!

probably because im getting attacked!

That's a fair point!

[Made]

i should probably say something less fluffy. my iso is probably awful rn

[nutella]

Nutella is >rand scum for her reads on Tutuu (holding the town read is already past the point of TMI) and her Mac read (refusing to read me one way or the other when I am blatantly town and she never has any fear of town reading me).

I'm gonna assume at some point in the previous posts I have yet to backread that Nutella made some effort to make me seem insane for my Tutuu read.

i never made you seem insane i even agreed with your nook read and told tutuu it was real and called out some of her bad takes i just also think she's town

and dude im fucking paranoid of townreading you like every single game what lmao

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I've started to add ISO links to the first post. They're currently in backwards order. If anyone knows how to fix that, feel free to PM me and I can adjust them. Please don't respond here, thanks.

[tutuu]

Tutuu is literally mafia. There is no universe in which the way she has read me makes any sense for her. It is entirely unlike anything she has ever done before. It was probably just her going into attack mode because I pushed onto her teammate Nanook tbh.

how so? i interpreted something as something, i talked about it itt a bit, i decided to give up on it and move on

i dont see anything unreasonable or weird here

I have played in many many games with you. I know what to expect from you. There is nothing that I did that was outside the realms of normality for me. You concocted reasons which is fine but then you kept holding the read and doubled down.

Also this post is prorotypical what caught scum do. You ask me a broad "how so?" when I made several points, not addressing any of the key points. Then you reframed your behaviour removing all context to give yourself a platform to be incredulous and reduce my argument down to wifom.

i clearly held the read as much as i pleased and then i gave up on it and have clearly stated that i dont want to talk about it so much because this is pointless. i did not double down, you are tunneled

prototypical actions of what caught scum do is irrelevant to me. you are tunneled. your second sentence is just random words that i dont even understand

[MacDougall]

Nutella's held townread on Tutuu doesn't make sense. She is now >rand mafia.

She might be town for her reaction to my Sloonei read, unless she's scum and actually wants to yeet me for once instead of pocketing me.

If Nut is mafia, Nutella will always townread Sloonei if he is town. There is zero benefit for her to ever go against him because he would just bury her. She just townreads him and solves him at night.

[nutella]

i should probably say something less fluffy. my iso is probably awful rn

have anything to say about anyone's jib?

[Timsup2nothin]

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