Game of Champions 2020 [ENDGAME]

[Sloonei]

Okay wait, so if 2 wolfie teams, then shouldn’t everyone be scummy???

Like sure they can baddie hunt or w/e but they should still look bad right?

I won last year’s GoC as scum because I was able to believably hunt the other team to extinction. Multiball helps wolves in the thread, hurts them out of it.

Hmm. Wym hurts them outside of it?

They don’t get to control the kill every night, and they are at risk of being killed themselves every other night.

Just for the record, Sloonei I absolutely hate this post and if I did not have a record for refusing to acknowledge TMI reads I would be all up on you right now.

What?

[nutella]

Okay wait, so if 2 wolfie teams, then shouldn’t everyone be scummy???

Like sure they can baddie hunt or w/e but they should still look bad right?

I won last year’s GoC as scum because I was able to believably hunt the other team to extinction. Multiball helps wolves in the thread, hurts them out of it.

Hmm. Wym hurts them outside of it?

They don’t get to control the kill every night, and they are at risk of being killed themselves every other night.

Just for the record, Sloonei I absolutely hate this post and if I did not have a record for refusing to acknowledge TMI reads I would be all up on you right now.

Tbf again that it usually how it has worked in the past

[tutuu]

im gonna call one of the mafia teams Fire mafia and the other team Ice mafia

tutuu - town
Hyena - town / 3p - this is my only townread off of him just being pure
Marmot - town / 3p - eh decided to add him too

Mac - town / fire mafia / 3p
Sloonei - town / ice mafia / 3p
112 - town / ice mafia / 3p
Made - town / fire mafia / 3p
nutella - town / fire mafia / ice mafia / 3p
Michelle - town / same mafia team as nutella / 3p

ok this is ... way too much. u cant reasonably ask me to do this lol

whatever

[Long Con]

Okay wait, so if 2 wolfie teams, then shouldn’t everyone be scummy???

Like sure they can baddie hunt or w/e but they should still look bad right?

I won last year’s GoC as scum because I was able to believably hunt the other team to extinction. Multiball helps wolves in the thread, hurts them out of it.

Hmm. Wym hurts them outside of it?

They don’t get to control the kill every night, and they are at risk of being killed themselves every other night.

Have you talked about this before?

[Sloonei]

Don’t worry Tim, I’m fully comfortable admitting that I was mafia in last year’s multiball GoC.

[Michelle]

traditional hunting methods probably wont work. i wonder how you're supposed to hunt as town in this situation. maybe put two hypothetical teams and try to solve like that? or maybe just impossible for now and just need to wait for night actions to help. hm

I am usually searching until i have a scum flip for people who are independently scummy.
I will not play differently.

[Made]

Does town thinking there’s three teams instead of two benefit town? If we all agree that there’s three mafia team, mafia will be forced to pretend there’s three teams which will make their hunting a bit more awkward

[Timsup2nothin]

Okay wait, so if 2 wolfie teams, then shouldn’t everyone be scummy???

Like sure they can baddie hunt or w/e but they should still look bad right?

I won last year’s GoC as scum because I was able to believably hunt the other team to extinction. Multiball helps wolves in the thread, hurts them out of it.

Hmm. Wym hurts them outside of it?

They don’t get to control the kill every night, and they are at risk of being killed themselves every other night.

Just for the record, Sloonei I absolutely hate this post and if I did not have a record for refusing to acknowledge TMI reads I would be all up on you right now.

What?

The only multi-ball game I have ever played in didn't work anything like that, so to state "this is how the game works" is what is often read as TMI.

[Long Con]

Don’t worry Tim, I’m fully comfortable admitting that I was mafia in last year’s multiball GoC.

Nice. Lock it in, boys.

[Thunal33]

Still seeing @nutella as scum sorry if im seeing wrong

I'm a bit suspicious of Nutella since it does seem like she lacks her usual pushiness (like calling Nanook mafia early but not really prodding there) and I disliked how she thought I was rand and therefore probably mafia if that thought was serious. I feel like her alignment will become pretty clear later though.

okiii *gives u catnip*

Okay wait, so if 2 wolfie teams, then shouldn’t everyone be scummy???

Like sure they can baddie hunt or w/e but they should still look bad right?

or maybe nobody gets to look scummy cuz everyone gets to solve >.>

playing town in multiball (if this is multiball) is a very fun experience yep yep

[Sloonei]

Okay wait, so if 2 wolfie teams, then shouldn’t everyone be scummy???

Like sure they can baddie hunt or w/e but they should still look bad right?

I won last year’s GoC as scum because I was able to believably hunt the other team to extinction. Multiball helps wolves in the thread, hurts them out of it.

Hmm. Wym hurts them outside of it?

They don’t get to control the kill every night, and they are at risk of being killed themselves every other night.

Have you talked about this before?

Not in this game, no.

[tutuu]

Does town thinking there’s three teams instead of two benefit town? If we all agree that there’s three mafia team, mafia will be forced to pretend there’s three teams which will make their hunting a bit more awkward

made why u trollin so much

[Long Con]

Okay wait, so if 2 wolfie teams, then shouldn’t everyone be scummy???

Like sure they can baddie hunt or w/e but they should still look bad right?

I won last year’s GoC as scum because I was able to believably hunt the other team to extinction. Multiball helps wolves in the thread, hurts them out of it.

Hmm. Wym hurts them outside of it?

They don’t get to control the kill every night, and they are at risk of being killed themselves every other night.

Have you talked about this before?

Not in this game, no.

It just doesn't sound like it's off the top of your head. Maybe you discussed it with a team in chat. This game.

[Michelle]

im gonna call one of the mafia teams Fire mafia and the other team Ice mafia

tutuu - town
Hyena - town / 3p - this is my only townread off of him just being pure
Marmot - town / 3p - eh decided to add him too

Mac - town / fire mafia / 3p
Sloonei - town / ice mafia / 3p
112 - town / ice mafia / 3p
Made - town / fire mafia / 3p
nutella - town / fire mafia / ice mafia / 3p
Michelle - town / same mafia team as nutella / 3p

ok this is ... way too much. u cant reasonably ask me to do this lol

whatever

Geez not like this

[Made]

im gonna call one of the mafia teams Fire mafia and the other team Ice mafia

tutuu - town
Hyena - town / 3p - this is my only townread off of him just being pure
Marmot - town / 3p - eh decided to add him too

Mac - town / fire mafia / 3p
Sloonei - town / ice mafia / 3p
112 - town / ice mafia / 3p
Made - town / fire mafia / 3p
nutella - town / fire mafia / ice mafia / 3p
Michelle - town / same mafia team as nutella / 3p

ok this is ... way too much. u cant reasonably ask me to do this lol

whatever

It’s easier to do it like a tree that grows organically.

Team Nutelle vs 20something individual teams until you have reason to assume two players are together then, you reduce the number of teams.

[tutuu]

lmfao thun

[Made]

Does town thinking there’s three teams instead of two benefit town? If we all agree that there’s three mafia team, mafia will be forced to pretend there’s three teams which will make their hunting a bit more awkward

made why u trollin so much

It’s helping me build my towncore which now includes you and LC

[tutuu]

Okay wait, so if 2 wolfie teams, then shouldn’t everyone be scummy???

Like sure they can baddie hunt or w/e but they should still look bad right?

I won last year’s GoC as scum because I was able to believably hunt the other team to extinction. Multiball helps wolves in the thread, hurts them out of it.

Hmm. Wym hurts them outside of it?

They don’t get to control the kill every night, and they are at risk of being killed themselves every other night.

Just for the record, Sloonei I absolutely hate this post and if I did not have a record for refusing to acknowledge TMI reads I would be all up on you right now.

What?

The only multi-ball game I have ever played in didn't work anything like that, so to state "this is how the game works" is what is often read as TMI.

ive played a lot of multiball games outside of the syndicate and its how it works on most places. two mafia teams that can kill each other

[Thunal33]

I looked at the GoC 2019 and mafia Sloonei did quite a bit of solving and feeling mostly comfortable early on (unlike the two times I've seen him as mafia) so I don't read him town as strongly as I did.

[Syn]

alright i'm bored, let's kill someone

Who do you want to kill?

nutella

[Sloonei]

Okay wait, so if 2 wolfie teams, then shouldn’t everyone be scummy???

Like sure they can baddie hunt or w/e but they should still look bad right?

I won last year’s GoC as scum because I was able to believably hunt the other team to extinction. Multiball helps wolves in the thread, hurts them out of it.

Hmm. Wym hurts them outside of it?

They don’t get to control the kill every night, and they are at risk of being killed themselves every other night.

Just for the record, Sloonei I absolutely hate this post and if I did not have a record for refusing to acknowledge TMI reads I would be all up on you right now.

What?

The only multi-ball game I have ever played in didn't work anything like that, so to state "this is how the game works" is what is often read as TMI.

I am drawing from all of my previous experience in multiball games on this site. Most specifically, last year’s GoC. This has always been the format.

I have no way of knowing whether or not this game has multiple mafia teams or anything else about the setup beyond what my rolecard and the host posts say. I am talking about mechanics generally and hypothetically. I am not assuming this is a multiball game, but I am considering it as a possibility.

[tutuu]

okay maybe jay's chart will help

try to find w/w neutral and not w/w interactions and build from there

[Thunal33]

Has every GoC been multiball or just last year's?

[tutuu]

(credit to made ofc)

[Sloonei]

Has every GoC been multiball or just last year's?

I think all the ones that I’ve played were.

[Timsup2nothin]

Spoiler: show

I won last year’s GoC as scum because I was able to believably hunt the other team to extinction. Multiball helps wolves in the thread, hurts them out of it.

Hmm. Wym hurts them outside of it?

They don’t get to control the kill every night, and they are at risk of being killed themselves every other night.

Just for the record, Sloonei I absolutely hate this post and if I did not have a record for refusing to acknowledge TMI reads I would be all up on you right now.

What?

The only multi-ball game I have ever played in didn't work anything like that, so to state "this is how the game works" is what is often read as TMI.

ive played a lot of multiball games outside of the syndicate and its how it works on most places. two mafia teams that can kill each other

The only multi-ball I played the wolf teams definitely could (and did) kill each other...but they did not alternate nights...they each got a kill every night.

[Sloonei]

I looked at the GoC 2019 and mafia Sloonei did quite a bit of solving and feeling mostly comfortable early on (unlike the two times I've seen him as mafia) so I don't read him town as strongly as I did.

Does this mean you are assuming this game is multiball?

[Michelle]

It's - 41 Celsius where I live, that's a thing I have to deal with right now.


Michelle prolly Maf

You need to stay in the house, where is warm

Spicy read, carry on.
A reason would be appreciated tbh

[nutella]

im gonna call one of the mafia teams Fire mafia and the other team Ice mafia

tutuu - town
Hyena - town / 3p - this is my only townread off of him just being pure
Marmot - town / 3p - eh decided to add him too

Mac - town / fire mafia / 3p
Sloonei - town / ice mafia / 3p
112 - town / ice mafia / 3p
Made - town / fire mafia / 3p
nutella - town / fire mafia / ice mafia / 3p
Michelle - town / same mafia team as nutella / 3p

ok this is ... way too much. u cant reasonably ask me to do this lol

whatever

yo sick im the avatar

[Thunal33]

Does anyone townread Nutella?

[Justplayingitcool]

Does anyone townread Nutella?

Not really

[Made]

Yo actually, when did we figure out GOCs were multiballs in the past? Like do we normally start the game knowing?

[Kylemii]

Linkitis I guess

[Thunal33]

I looked at the GoC 2019 and mafia Sloonei did quite a bit of solving and feeling mostly comfortable early on (unlike the two times I've seen him as mafia) so I don't read him town as strongly as I did.

Does this mean you are assuming this game is multiball?

I don't think it means that, but I'd guess the game probably is based on what people are saying.

[tutuu]

Spoiler: show

Hmm. Wym hurts them outside of it?

They don’t get to control the kill every night, and they are at risk of being killed themselves every other night.

Just for the record, Sloonei I absolutely hate this post and if I did not have a record for refusing to acknowledge TMI reads I would be all up on you right now.

What?

The only multi-ball game I have ever played in didn't work anything like that, so to state "this is how the game works" is what is often read as TMI.

ive played a lot of multiball games outside of the syndicate and its how it works on most places. two mafia teams that can kill each other

The only multi-ball I played the wolf teams definitely could (and did) kill each other...but they did not alternate nights...they each got a kill every night.

i dont think thats any different than what sloonei is saying? sloonei did say it in a bit weird way but i think he's saying the same thing. i dont think sloonei said that the two teams alternate kills. wait is that what u said? @Sloonei

[Michelle]

alright i'm bored, let's kill someone

Who do you want to kill?

nutella

Why?

[Sloonei]

Does anyone townread Nutella?

Yes

[falcon45ca]

It's - 41 Celsius where I live, that's a thing I have to deal with right now.


Michelle prolly Maf

You need to stay in the house, where is warm

Spicy read, carry on.
A reason would be appreciated tbh

I've got reasons, just ask Essoa

[Timsup2nothin]

Does anyone townread Nutella?

Is there any prerequisite here? Like do I have to have read any significant number of posts? Interacted with her at all? Or is just randomly pulling something out of my ass okay?

[nutella]

Yo actually, when did we figure out GOCs were multiballs in the past? Like do we normally start the game knowing?

they have usually been open setups

we all in the dark this year

[Sloonei]

Spoiler: show

They don’t get to control the kill every night, and they are at risk of being killed themselves every other night.

Just for the record, Sloonei I absolutely hate this post and if I did not have a record for refusing to acknowledge TMI reads I would be all up on you right now.

What?

The only multi-ball game I have ever played in didn't work anything like that, so to state "this is how the game works" is what is often read as TMI.

ive played a lot of multiball games outside of the syndicate and its how it works on most places. two mafia teams that can kill each other

The only multi-ball I played the wolf teams definitely could (and did) kill each other...but they did not alternate nights...they each got a kill every night.

i dont think thats any different than what sloonei is saying? sloonei did say it in a bit weird way but i think he's saying the same thing. i dont think sloonei said that the two teams alternate kills. wait is that what u said? @Sloonei

Every multiball game that I can remember on the Snydicate featured alternating nightkills for the two teams.

[nutella]

Spoiler: show

They don’t get to control the kill every night, and they are at risk of being killed themselves every other night.

Just for the record, Sloonei I absolutely hate this post and if I did not have a record for refusing to acknowledge TMI reads I would be all up on you right now.

What?

The only multi-ball game I have ever played in didn't work anything like that, so to state "this is how the game works" is what is often read as TMI.

ive played a lot of multiball games outside of the syndicate and its how it works on most places. two mafia teams that can kill each other

The only multi-ball I played the wolf teams definitely could (and did) kill each other...but they did not alternate nights...they each got a kill every night.

i dont think thats any different than what sloonei is saying? sloonei did say it in a bit weird way but i think he's saying the same thing. i dont think sloonei said that the two teams alternate kills. wait is that what u said? @Sloonei

that is indeed what he was saying and indeed how it has usually worked on this site yes

[Syn]

alright i'm bored, let's kill someone

Who do you want to kill?

nutella

Why?

cuz she's wolfin'

[Thunal33]

Does anyone townread Nutella?

Is there any prerequisite here? Like do I have to have read any significant number of posts? Interacted with her at all? Or is just randomly pulling something out of my ass okay?

That's fine. I'm going off of the fact that when Nutella is a consensus suspect she nearly always flips wolf from my experience so I'm using others' opinions to read her.

[Made]

Gun to head, this game probably isn’t a multiball, and if it is, all mafia teams don’t know it

[tutuu]

Spoiler: show

Just for the record, Sloonei I absolutely hate this post and if I did not have a record for refusing to acknowledge TMI reads I would be all up on you right now.

What?

The only multi-ball game I have ever played in didn't work anything like that, so to state "this is how the game works" is what is often read as TMI.

ive played a lot of multiball games outside of the syndicate and its how it works on most places. two mafia teams that can kill each other

The only multi-ball I played the wolf teams definitely could (and did) kill each other...but they did not alternate nights...they each got a kill every night.

i dont think thats any different than what sloonei is saying? sloonei did say it in a bit weird way but i think he's saying the same thing. i dont think sloonei said that the two teams alternate kills. wait is that what u said? @Sloonei

Every multiball game that I can remember on the Snydicate featured alternating nightkills for the two teams.

oh well thats interesting. alright

i assumed that both teams get a kill every night

its a 27er game, i dont think that games like this should drag for a month lol, there should be like 3-4 kills total per night in a game this size. id never do alternating night kills in this player size

but nevertheless

[Sloonei]

Gun to head, this game probably isn’t a multiball, and if it is, all mafia teams don’t know it

What makes you say this?

[Sloonei]

Besides the aforementioned firearm.

[nutella]

alright i'm bored, let's kill someone

Who do you want to kill?

nutella

Why?

cuz she's wolfin'

im not

[Made]

Gun to head, this game probably isn’t a multiball, and if it is, all mafia teams don’t know it

What makes you say this?

Everyone feels too confused about it