Game of Champions 2020 [ENDGAME]

[Hyena]

[VOTE: hyena] aubergine "I'm being reaction tested" is the safest way to address blanket suspicions. I also did not care for the progression of their read on me in the exchange we just had.

I'm about to become distracted again. May leave half an eye on the game, but I won't be here to respond to everything in real time.

lol, who is suspecting me right now, Sloonei? Outside of you, Mac, and Nutella?

[tutuu]

i have n0 mafia peek on kylemii im a n0 cop if i choose to out it i die at eod i sacrifice myself for the greater good vote kylemii he's outed mafia

[Syn]

i don't think i've played a game with 2 mafias since like 2004

kylemii, circa 2004: "I don't know what neopets forum you guys are from..."

[DrWilgy]

i have n0 mafia peek on kylemii im a n0 cop if i choose to out it i die at eod i sacrifice myself for the greater good vote kylemii he's outed mafia

AYE AYE MOM!

[Made]

[VOTE: kyle] aubergine

[Kylemii]

i have n0 mafia peek on kylemii im a n0 cop if i choose to out it i die at eod i sacrifice myself for the greater good vote kylemii he's outed mafia

i'm a n0 lie detector, which is how i know this is false, for multiple reasons!

[Kylemii]

that was a joke, i'm not actually a lie detector lol

[TonyStarkPrime]

[VOTE: TacoSecurityProvisions] aubergine
@TonyStarkPrime where u at?

busy

what percentage of this thread have you read so far?

Maybe something between 6 and 8

Have you gleaned anything from that small window?

Nutella seems town. That whole "idk why more peopel aren't townreading me for topposting on day 0" thing is a pretty clear sign

[Sloonei]

[VOTE: hyena] aubergine "I'm being reaction tested" is the safest way to address blanket suspicions. I also did not care for the progression of their read on me in the exchange we just had.

I'm about to become distracted again. May leave half an eye on the game, but I won't be here to respond to everything in real time.

lol, who is suspecting me right now, Sloonei? Outside of you, Mac, and Nutella?

Spoiler: show

I actually kinda dig the Scum Sloonei read.

Hello Doctor, what else do you dig?

I'm diggin Tim Town
Diggin Mac Town
Diggin odd feeling on Hazlenut

Hyena bad If Nook bad

Nook... Odd by presence of Hazlenut.

What's town about tim? What's odd about nutella, and is that oddness indicative of either alignment?

Idk I like his read re Hazelnut just a moment ago.

Hazelnut's immediate and hardfound sus of me but took me calling her a coward twice to get a vote. I find it out of place. Indicitive of W, BUT I am aware that I must evaluate the root of this.

Now that I think about it, situation where Hyena is bad, Hazelnut is good. Situation where Hyena is bad, Nanook is good. Situation where Hazelnut is good, Sloonei is... Better.

Hyena is the root.

[VOTE: Hyena] aubergine

Votes on Hyena and Wilgy are indeed acceptable.

I agree with this. Kill us both, and let god sort us out.

Our bodies shall be thrown on the pyre together Hyena, we can even share a hug in death to not go into the dark alone. Our ashes shall be blown to the winds.

Granted there aren't many concrete arguments here, but "I'm being reaction tested" when several people spontaneously start naming you as a suspect does not exactly inspire me. I'm not clear on why these people suspect you or what arguments had been made prior to my own. It is strictly your response that I am talking about. Nothing here gives me the impression of a reaction test targeted at you.

[Kylemii]

@Sloonei i don't think we've played together yet since before? are you pretty much the same as you were or have you evolved a lot specifically to spite me?

[Hyena]

[VOTE: hyena] aubergine "I'm being reaction tested" is the safest way to address blanket suspicions. I also did not care for the progression of their read on me in the exchange we just had.

I'm about to become distracted again. May leave half an eye on the game, but I won't be here to respond to everything in real time.

lol, who is suspecting me right now, Sloonei? Outside of you, Mac, and Nutella?

Spoiler: show

I actually kinda dig the Scum Sloonei read.

Hello Doctor, what else do you dig?

I'm diggin Tim Town
Diggin Mac Town
Diggin odd feeling on Hazlenut

Hyena bad If Nook bad

Nook... Odd by presence of Hazlenut.

What's town about tim? What's odd about nutella, and is that oddness indicative of either alignment?

Idk I like his read re Hazelnut just a moment ago.

Hazelnut's immediate and hardfound sus of me but took me calling her a coward twice to get a vote. I find it out of place. Indicitive of W, BUT I am aware that I must evaluate the root of this.

Now that I think about it, situation where Hyena is bad, Hazelnut is good. Situation where Hyena is bad, Nanook is good. Situation where Hazelnut is good, Sloonei is... Better.

Hyena is the root.

[VOTE: Hyena] aubergine

Votes on Hyena and Wilgy are indeed acceptable.

I agree with this. Kill us both, and let god sort us out.

Our bodies shall be thrown on the pyre together Hyena, we can even share a hug in death to not go into the dark alone. Our ashes shall be blown to the winds.

Granted there aren't many concrete arguments here, but "I'm being reaction tested" when several people spontaneously start naming you as a suspect does not exactly inspire me. I'm not clear on why these people suspect you or what arguments had been made prior to my own. It is strictly your response that I am talking about. Nothing here gives me the impression of a reaction test targeted at you.

Wilgy joked about pocketing me as scum earlier and Tutuu named me her top town read near the end of D0. I don't believe for a second they are suspecting me.

[Hyena]

[VOTE: hyena] aubergine "I'm being reaction tested" is the safest way to address blanket suspicions. I also did not care for the progression of their read on me in the exchange we just had.

I'm about to become distracted again. May leave half an eye on the game, but I won't be here to respond to everything in real time.

lol, who is suspecting me right now, Sloonei? Outside of you, Mac, and Nutella?

Spoiler: show

I actually kinda dig the Scum Sloonei read.

Hello Doctor, what else do you dig?

I'm diggin Tim Town
Diggin Mac Town
Diggin odd feeling on Hazlenut

Hyena bad If Nook bad

Nook... Odd by presence of Hazlenut.

What's town about tim? What's odd about nutella, and is that oddness indicative of either alignment?

Idk I like his read re Hazelnut just a moment ago.

Hazelnut's immediate and hardfound sus of me but took me calling her a coward twice to get a vote. I find it out of place. Indicitive of W, BUT I am aware that I must evaluate the root of this.

Now that I think about it, situation where Hyena is bad, Hazelnut is good. Situation where Hyena is bad, Nanook is good. Situation where Hazelnut is good, Sloonei is... Better.

Hyena is the root.

[VOTE: Hyena] aubergine

Votes on Hyena and Wilgy are indeed acceptable.

I agree with this. Kill us both, and let god sort us out.

Our bodies shall be thrown on the pyre together Hyena, we can even share a hug in death to not go into the dark alone. Our ashes shall be blown to the winds.

Granted there aren't many concrete arguments here, but "I'm being reaction tested" when several people spontaneously start naming you as a suspect does not exactly inspire me. I'm not clear on why these people suspect you or what arguments had been made prior to my own. It is strictly your response that I am talking about. Nothing here gives me the impression of a reaction test targeted at you.

Wilgy joked about pocketing me as scum earlier and Tutuu named me her top town read near the end of D0. I don't believe for a second they are suspecting me.

In fact, I would say that I'm being generally townread at the moment.

[Sloonei]

@Sloonei i don't think we've played together yet since before? are you pretty much the same as you were or have you evolved a lot specifically to spite me?

i think we played together somewhere. uh. christmas game. you were a mafier.

I've got a dorsal fin now.

[Sloonei]

[VOTE: hyena] aubergine "I'm being reaction tested" is the safest way to address blanket suspicions. I also did not care for the progression of their read on me in the exchange we just had.

I'm about to become distracted again. May leave half an eye on the game, but I won't be here to respond to everything in real time.

lol, who is suspecting me right now, Sloonei? Outside of you, Mac, and Nutella?

Spoiler: show

Hello Doctor, what else do you dig?

I'm diggin Tim Town
Diggin Mac Town
Diggin odd feeling on Hazlenut

Hyena bad If Nook bad

Nook... Odd by presence of Hazlenut.

What's town about tim? What's odd about nutella, and is that oddness indicative of either alignment?

Idk I like his read re Hazelnut just a moment ago.

Hazelnut's immediate and hardfound sus of me but took me calling her a coward twice to get a vote. I find it out of place. Indicitive of W, BUT I am aware that I must evaluate the root of this.

Now that I think about it, situation where Hyena is bad, Hazelnut is good. Situation where Hyena is bad, Nanook is good. Situation where Hazelnut is good, Sloonei is... Better.

Hyena is the root.

[VOTE: Hyena] aubergine

Votes on Hyena and Wilgy are indeed acceptable.

I agree with this. Kill us both, and let god sort us out.

Our bodies shall be thrown on the pyre together Hyena, we can even share a hug in death to not go into the dark alone. Our ashes shall be blown to the winds.

Granted there aren't many concrete arguments here, but "I'm being reaction tested" when several people spontaneously start naming you as a suspect does not exactly inspire me. I'm not clear on why these people suspect you or what arguments had been made prior to my own. It is strictly your response that I am talking about. Nothing here gives me the impression of a reaction test targeted at you.

Wilgy joked about pocketing me as scum earlier and Tutuu named me her top town read near the end of D0. I don't believe for a second they are suspecting me.

In fact, I would say that I'm being generally townread at the moment.

@others, is this accurate?

[Syn]

no

[Timsup2nothin]

I have no read on Hyena presently.

[Syn]

I have no read on Hyena presently.

that's because you haven't read

[Kylemii]

@Sloonei i don't think we've played together yet since before? are you pretty much the same as you were or have you evolved a lot specifically to spite me?

i think we played together somewhere. uh. christmas game. you were a mafier.

I've got a dorsal fin now.

ah... i don't actually remember that game basically at all

i remember being able to (loosely) tell your alignment most easily based on content and engagement level, has the new dorsal fin changed that?

[Sloonei]

@Sloonei i don't think we've played together yet since before? are you pretty much the same as you were or have you evolved a lot specifically to spite me?

i think we played together somewhere. uh. christmas game. you were a mafier.

I've got a dorsal fin now.

ah... i don't actually remember that game basically at all

i remember being able to (loosely) tell your alignment most easily based on content and engagement level, has the new dorsal fin changed that?

probably not, but idk I'm not an expert on how other people read me. I'd ask them.

[Kylemii]

@Sloonei i don't think we've played together yet since before? are you pretty much the same as you were or have you evolved a lot specifically to spite me?

i think we played together somewhere. uh. christmas game. you were a mafier.

I've got a dorsal fin now.

ah... i don't actually remember that game basically at all

i remember being able to (loosely) tell your alignment most easily based on content and engagement level, has the new dorsal fin changed that?

probably not, but idk I'm not an expert on how other people read me. I'd ask them.

@nutella can I get the Sparknotes version of the Prima Strategy guide on Sloonei, on Gameboy Color

[Sloonei]

@Sloonei i don't think we've played together yet since before? are you pretty much the same as you were or have you evolved a lot specifically to spite me?

i think we played together somewhere. uh. christmas game. you were a mafier.

I've got a dorsal fin now.

ah... i don't actually remember that game basically at all

i remember being able to (loosely) tell your alignment most easily based on content and engagement level, has the new dorsal fin changed that?

probably not, but idk I'm not an expert on how other people read me. I'd ask them.

@nutella can I get the Sparknotes version of the Prima Strategy guide on Sloonei, on Gameboy Color

interesting choice to go to nutella.

[Kylemii]

nutella is generally more forthcoming with information than mac is and as far as i know hasn't gone on hiatus like everyone else

[Kylemii]

and also, now that i think about it, one of my oldest friends? which is weird to think about

[Timsup2nothin]

I have no read on Hyena presently.

that's because you haven't read

Well, yes.

[nutella]

Votes on Hyena and Wilgy are indeed acceptable.

I agree with this. Kill us both, and let god sort us out.

Our bodies shall be thrown on the pyre together Hyena, we can even share a hug in death to not go into the dark alone. Our ashes shall be blown to the winds.

You were mafia in pyre tho werent you

[nutella]

Clearly a dogwhistle

[nutella]

how about making alison give abilities to non-consensus-townreads? people that are in the middle of everyone's reads?

because townread people are already incentivized to die, and with their death goes the permanent powerboost from alison

so making alison turn null people into trackers, and then forcing those people to out their tracking result could produce some good content to solve alignments from, no?

even if we are worried that people might lie, it will still technically solve and produce content

Hmm

[nutella]

Hmm is a placeholder for i dont actually want to have to think about this but other people should

[Kylemii]

i don't think i've played a game with 2 mafias since like 2004

kylemii, circa 2004: "I don't know what neopets forum you guys are from..."

Bruh teenage Kyle would tear this game apart. that was back when i had unlimited free time, depression, and a prescribed adderall, that was the peak of my mafia performance.

[Kylemii]

i still have the depression, i'm just more aware of it now and avoid digging into hobbies obsessively to deal with it when i can

[Kylemii]

or maybe i just have more hobbies, sorry no one cares about this

[Kylemii]

hey are soup kills common or even possible in closed setup games

[Timsup2nothin]

Hmm is a placeholder for i dont actually want to have to think about this but other people should

It seemed a good thought to me on first look, and still does. I don't think in the grand scheme of the game though that town is going to be able to generate any agreement on an organized response to Alison's offer, so I don't think this has any bearing beyond indicating that Tutuu is town...which I think was already a pretty common read.

[tutuu]

hey are soup kills common or even possible in closed setup games

i would say there is likely punishment for claiming your role, maybe not necessarily strongman killed but if the OP suggests that we should be weary about it then. maybe

[MartinGG99]

Congratulations to the following players.

@Justplayingitcool
@nutella
@Dyslexicon
@Marmot
@MartinGG99

Random.org has selected you as my tribunal. Please wait for more information.

look I'm going to make things simple for you as to why this is a bad idea

Martin's content quality and activity < Anyone else's content quality and activity

also there clearly isn't a discerning purpose to this if you've just Random.Org'ed it

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

hey are soup kills common or even possible in closed setup games

Possible, not common

[MartinGG99]

going to be here for the next 2 hours or less before I have to go to sleep

feel free to murder me by then

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

There’s clearly some anti-incentive to claiming, idk if it’ll be a soup kill or not but I’d be very surprised if there wasn’t some kind of anti-claim mechanic in play

[Timsup2nothin]

hey are soup kills common or even possible in closed setup games

Soup kills reportedly happen once in a while, though I have never seen one.

What I have seen is that in every game I have played on this site (one exception???) soup kills have been discussed pretty much endlessly.

[tutuu]

[VOTE: Hyena] aubergine

You are outed Mafia.

[tutuu]

I should stop being so towny.

Member of the opposite Mafia from my team (you know who you are) - DO NOT KILL ME. I AM TRYING TO GO DEEP. WE KNOW OUR NUMBERS THEY'RE LOW THIS GAME IS TOWNSIDED AS FUCK. KILL SOMEBODY ELSE, NOT ME PLEASE. I AM NOT A THREAT TO YOU.

[MartinGG99]

how about making alison give abilities to non-consensus-townreads? people that are in the middle of everyone's reads?

because townread people are already incentivized to die, and with their death goes the permanent powerboost from alison

so making alison turn null people into trackers, and then forcing those people to out their tracking result could produce some good content to solve alignments from, no?

even if we are worried that people might lie, it will still technically solve and produce content

Hmm is a placeholder for i dont actually want to have to think about this but other people should

i don't think you want my input

but hey if it can help solve me or whatever it is with Alison's ability-giving-ability

then maybe we should be all-ears?

That or we can end me for lack of benefit at some point in the future

[Timsup2nothin]

[VOTE: Hyena] aubergine

You are outed Mafia.

Options:

A) Just sheep Tutuu

B) Actually read game

C) ISO Tutuu and look for explanation

D) Ask Tutuu for explanation

E) Make obscure post hoping Tutuu is prompted to explain

[tutuu]

[VOTE: Hyena] aubergine

You are outed Mafia.

Options:

A) Just sheep Tutuu

B) Actually read game

C) ISO Tutuu and look for explanation

D) Ask Tutuu for explanation

E) Make obscure post hoping Tutuu is prompted to explain

Looks like E) was the correct choice!

I think "this is a reaction test, no way anyone is scumreading me rn" is a line I have said multiple times as scum or at least I've considered saying it and I don't think I've said it as town that much.

[MartinGG99]

Nutella seems town. That whole "idk why more peopel aren't townreading me for topposting on day 0" thing is a pretty clear sign

Lol.

Where was that anyways? Would like to see the context first.

[tutuu]

how about making alison give abilities to non-consensus-townreads? people that are in the middle of everyone's reads?

because townread people are already incentivized to die, and with their death goes the permanent powerboost from alison

so making alison turn null people into trackers, and then forcing those people to out their tracking result could produce some good content to solve alignments from, no?

even if we are worried that people might lie, it will still technically solve and produce content

Hmm is a placeholder for i dont actually want to have to think about this but other people should

i don't think you want my input

but hey if it can help solve me or whatever it is with Alison's ability-giving-ability

then maybe we should be all-ears?

That or we can end me for lack of benefit at some point in the future

this post so town

[MartinGG99]

Hyena might be town here actually. There is some information rocking around in my brain that says that this is his town meta.

in 2 words or less can you please describe the difference between Hyena's town meta and wolf meta?

for me? please? love you

okay ur mafia im actually serious. super confident ur mafia. ur mafia. i think u popped in and tried to look towny. ur mafia

[VOTE: Kylemii] aubergine

while I haven't been in the game much

to me it looks like this could fail for two reasons

1) They could be very silly or its just a personalized way of reacting to stuff
2) "Look towny" is a very broad thing because there are so many ways one can be town but not look it and vice versa

so how come they are your biggest scum out of the 27 players so far

is there like more evidence than just 1 single thing is what I would like to know more tbh

[cat]

nutella is wolfin'

Do you have an explanation for this? Why is this your only read and who did you steal it from?
If you had no reads at all it would be very towny but this sticks out as a sore thumb.

[VOTE: cat] aubergine

i have to reach but there are 0 scummy posts posted itt fmpov so im aiming at this

perhaps cat could be scum for pre-emptively explaining "If you had no reads at all it would be very towny but this sticks out as a sore thumb." to his scumread syn

perhaps, if one was town, its more likely that they wouldnt pre-emptively "reveal their hand" like this to a scumread of theirs

I have no reason to not do it. If someone says ''you're scum, go.'' i literally wouldn't care to defend. If someone says ''he's scum, jump on with me'' i wouldnt care either unless i had a read already.

Syn's response was bad btw.

[nutella]

Hmm is a placeholder for i dont actually want to have to think about this but other people should

It seemed a good thought to me on first look, and still does. I don't think in the grand scheme of the game though that town is going to be able to generate any agreement on an organized response to Alison's offer, so I don't think this has any bearing beyond indicating that Tutuu is town...which I think was already a pretty common read.

lmao

[nutella]

I should stop being so towny.

Member of the opposite Mafia from my team (you know who you are) - DO NOT KILL ME. I AM TRYING TO GO DEEP. WE KNOW OUR NUMBERS THEY'RE LOW THIS GAME IS TOWNSIDED AS FUCK. KILL SOMEBODY ELSE, NOT ME PLEASE. I AM NOT A THREAT TO YOU.

lol