Game of Champions 2020 [ENDGAME]

[Kylemii]

I hate that I said "yolo" I apologize. you deserve better

regardless of your alignment, i like how you play

no!!! I said "yolo" when I should have said "real life psychic powers" or something. I made another substandard joke and I can't keep getting away with it.

[Marmot]

Only 1200 new posts.

Did anyone mafia-claim in there?

[DrWilgy]

Only 1200 new posts.

Did anyone mafia-claim in there?

@Jackofhearts2005 did

[nutella]

Radishes how do you feel about Dizzy's fourteen posts?

Not read them tbh. I was asleep when he was in the thread. I picked up he decided to scumread me for misreading Michelle's post about him. I kind of understood his point about why it came across as scummy though. Like he painted my reply to Michelle as one coming from a scum perspective and I can see how he got there.

So in not so many words: completely null, though nothing that pings me in what he has posted.

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME @Master Radishes what's the 112 vote about?

I’m sheeping radishes read, he sounded like he knew what he was talking about

I never know what I'm talking about.

^that was a joke comment but also I do struggle to read 112 sometimes despite our experience together. I've just seen her play at so many different levels that I never know for sure which one she's at and so don't know how to establish a baseline on reading her. Like this game so far might just be standard lazy 112 shooting from the hip with no direction and I'm misreading her based on a different expectation I hold. Or it might be scum 112 mimicking that style and just not concentrating enough to really nail it and I'm picking up on that.

Like. More of this. It's so glaring to me that radish feels the need to post this many words. Im confident that if he was town he would mega slank the first couple days of a huge game like this until he could do some mech solving or read just the cdc people. But instead he's super engaged and overdefensive/overexplainy of everything. How is that not scum radish to a t

[nutella]

@MacDougall please read my above post I want you to understand this

[Marmot]

lol its cute that youre so literal thunal

when alison put on her cat ears she transforms into thunal

lol I take that as a compliment since I really like very logical playstyles like Alison's.

My experiences with you in video mafia tells me that you also have a bit of a devilish/unpredictable streak in you too, in addition to playing logically.

[Marmot]

Only 1200 new posts.

Did anyone mafia-claim in there?

@Jackofhearts2005 did

Why does he have 0 votes?

[tutuu]

lol its cute that youre so literal thunal

when alison put on her cat ears she transforms into thunal

lol I take that as a compliment since I really like very logical playstyles like Alison's.

My experiences with you in video mafia tells me that you also have a bit of a devilish/unpredictable streak in you too, in addition to playing logically.

im not Thunal, but even I blushed reading this

[nutella]

oh this was a joke

i can read


(but actually read her and tell me)

I mean, it was probably 10 % serious. Her post made little sense to me. She usually makes sense. Also: "I think if someone fakes a read that person is likely mafia, but faking reads is less common than in other mafia games." Is there context missing, or does the last part of this sentence make no sense?

Won't read her now though. Cause I've played too much mafia today already. I might get more into the game as it goes and such. I'm sorry, but I just don't have the capacity for it.

I'm saying in logical terms: If someone's reads are fake then they're probably mafia, but it's not necessarily the case that if someone's mafia then their reads are fake.

[VOTE: thunal] aubergine for something quite silly that happened early in the game and I forgot about til just now:

Mac is mafia, actually.

Why do you think that?

I don’t, I was just saying that.

I decided to call Mac mafia for absolutely no reason. Pure "reaction testing" as we call it. Thunal was the only one to pick up on it, asking me why I felt that way. My response was deliberately goofy, meant again to elicit some sort of reaction. Except... Thunal didn't react at all. Thunal was still active in the thread at the time. It is possible she missed this post, but I made it provocative on purpose and got no response. That is not exactly cromulent in my book. I can read it as a player who recognizes a reaction test and retreats from it. Or she just didn't see it.

Honestly I thought that was just a reaction test for Mac or a joke.

.....heh.

[112]

@MacDougall

I’ll sheep that

He had just popped into thread and my case on 112 was the most recent one.

It felt he was mimicking his usual /shrug/ style.

It's probably ok for him. I would give him a pass for that and put that paranoia into a paranoia jar to be opened at a later moment with the other paranoia lollies.

I agree and furthermore what did you think of radish immediately pairing 112 and nook there because I thought that was garbage and also fake.

garbage yes, fake i don't think so

[Marmot]

lol its cute that youre so literal thunal

when alison put on her cat ears she transforms into thunal

lol I take that as a compliment since I really like very logical playstyles like Alison's.

My experiences with you in video mafia tells me that you also have a bit of a devilish/unpredictable streak in you too, in addition to playing logically.

im not Thunal, but even I blushed reading this

[Marmot]

I meant that in that, Thunal has opened up a couple games by claiming that she's scum and I'm her partner (which isn't something I've seen from her in forum mafia yet).

[nutella]

Speaking of CDCers, what's falcon done lately?

I haven't forgiven him for his terrible read on me in D0 and I feel like he's kept a low profile.

What do you think about my posts on Falcon?

Haven't read them. Haven't read anything that wasn't posted whilst I was present in the thread.

I didn't like Falcon's early nudge on me, but he's been fine enough since. Why, what do you have?

#2803

I'm feeling a bit less confident on Falcon wolf than I did then because nobody agrees with my read but I still feel like he's playing differently than the one time I've seen him in a wolfy way.

Mrrrrrr

[nutella]

no one from syndicate is ever allowed to bitch about new posts in MU games ever again

[VOTE: thunal] aubergine

her tone feels stiff

Im disliking thunal posts more and more, don't feel nearly as strongly as I do about radish but would be cool with a wagon there

Other than thunal do you have much in the way of reads from however many posts you have gotten through, dya?

[Marmot]

less than 4 deaths in n1 = we revolt

How will you revolt and why are you expecting this many deaths?

I kinda hope there is because there's a lot of posts

[Timsup2nothin]

Morning everyone. Looks like things have changed a bit around here. Nutella, 112, with an outside shot at Radishes? Is that where we're at?

Or is that Radish wagon just the residual?

[dyachei]

no one from syndicate is ever allowed to bitch about new posts in MU games ever again

[VOTE: thunal] aubergine

her tone feels stiff

Im disliking thunal posts more and more, don't feel nearly as strongly as I do about radish but would be cool with a wagon there

Other than thunal do you have much in the way of reads from however many posts you have gotten through, dya?

kind of like tutuu, don't like thunal

not sure what to make of made tbh, i want to come to an alignment but i dont get what he's doing in thread

have some concerns about mac

believe alison

am like 30 pages behind still

[dyachei]

Morning everyone. Looks like things have changed a bit around here. Nutella, 112, with an outside shot at Radishes? Is that where we're at?

Or is that Radish wagon just the residual?

read thunal's posts then vote her with me

[nutella]

Spoiler: show

I think mac is more hedgy than I'm used to seeing from him and I'm not sure if it makes him a wolf or a villager. I feel like in most games he's more settled in his suspicions than he is here

this may be fair yeah. He does often change his mind as town when presented with things he'd missed, but I don't think you're wrong that something feels off about how he's going about things

[112]

Morning everyone. Looks like things have changed a bit around here. Nutella, 112, with an outside shot at Radishes? Is that where we're at?

Or is that Radish wagon just the residual?

hmm, pointless queries

[nutella]

no im fairly sure dya is town actually

I mean this as a compliment to them:

There is no way anyone can discern dya's alignment from a handful of early posts.

yeah hey i can agree with you on something at least

[tutuu]

less than 4 deaths in n1 = we revolt

How will you revolt and why are you expecting this many deaths?

I kinda hope there is because there's a lot of posts

i will stomp with my feet like this

[Timsup2nothin]

no one from syndicate is ever allowed to bitch about new posts in MU games ever again

[VOTE: thunal] aubergine

her tone feels stiff

For this application do I count as "from Syndicate" or as someone from...wherever I am from nowadays am I still allowed to bitch about new posts?

PS, what's "new posts"?

[dyachei]

no one from syndicate is ever allowed to bitch about new posts in MU games ever again

[VOTE: thunal] aubergine

her tone feels stiff

For this application do I count as "from Syndicate" or as someone from...wherever I am from nowadays am I still allowed to bitch about new posts?

PS, what's "new posts"?

activity levels

i woke up to like 500 new posts

[tutuu]

no im fairly sure dya is town actually

I mean this as a compliment to them:

There is no way anyone can discern dya's alignment from a handful of early posts.

yeah hey i can agree with you on something at least

but but but i just managed to do it

if i ever do it wrong in a future game i cease

but temporarily this is FALSE and UNTRUTH

[Timsup2nothin]

Morning everyone. Looks like things have changed a bit around here. Nutella, 112, with an outside shot at Radishes? Is that where we're at?

Or is that Radish wagon just the residual?

hmm, pointless queries

LOL...I have been playing the same "hell no I am not reading this" game since say ) and NOW you wanna shade me for pointless queries? Now?

My goodness, whatever might have changed here?

Desperate much?

[dyachei]

also i now understand the hyena wolf reads...did they really vote for alison?

[Marmot]

Does 112 go by she? I apologize, I've been assumptively using he this whole time.

[Marmot]

112 wagon picked up, i was considering voting her ealier purely cuz i thought she might be solving mafia. she is definitely solving and shes definitely pro-town and shes definitely scumhunting imo, and despite she might be mafia. but i cant bring myself to vote her. i think she deserves to live more than a low poster. syndicate big games notorious for low amount of KP. sloonii also said previous GoC game had low amount of KP and lasted 9 days. if day yeet is the potentially only source of town KP then might as well start killing low posters or something? i dunno

Why the low posters? Which one would you go for?

Also... are you a jester?

[Thunal33]

lol its cute that youre so literal thunal

when alison put on her cat ears she transforms into thunal

lol I take that as a compliment since I really like very logical playstyles like Alison's.

My experiences with you in video mafia tells me that you also have a bit of a devilish/unpredictable streak in you too, in addition to playing logically.

[Thunal33]

oh this was a joke

i can read


(but actually read her and tell me)

I mean, it was probably 10 % serious. Her post made little sense to me. She usually makes sense. Also: "I think if someone fakes a read that person is likely mafia, but faking reads is less common than in other mafia games." Is there context missing, or does the last part of this sentence make no sense?

Won't read her now though. Cause I've played too much mafia today already. I might get more into the game as it goes and such. I'm sorry, but I just don't have the capacity for it.

I'm saying in logical terms: If someone's reads are fake then they're probably mafia, but it's not necessarily the case that if someone's mafia then their reads are fake.

[VOTE: thunal] aubergine for something quite silly that happened early in the game and I forgot about til just now:

Mac is mafia, actually.

Why do you think that?

I don’t, I was just saying that.

I decided to call Mac mafia for absolutely no reason. Pure "reaction testing" as we call it. Thunal was the only one to pick up on it, asking me why I felt that way. My response was deliberately goofy, meant again to elicit some sort of reaction. Except... Thunal didn't react at all. Thunal was still active in the thread at the time. It is possible she missed this post, but I made it provocative on purpose and got no response. That is not exactly cromulent in my book. I can read it as a player who recognizes a reaction test and retreats from it. Or she just didn't see it.

Honestly I thought that was just a reaction test for Mac or a joke.

.....heh.

I wasn't actually thinking about reaction tests when I wrote that, I was thinking of fake reads that aren't rescinded or revealed as fake.

[Marmot]

someone give me the highlights and the people I should iso to understand what's going on and I'll be eternally grateful

I'm in the same boat as you

[nutella]

I think that Kyle is Mafia; the way he's constantly talking about having to catch up is a way I've seen Mafia do, can't really argument it; it's just how I've seen it; I think there are other people who groan at having to catch up but they aren't following it so faithfully / they meme from time to time / they still give reads from time to time.

I think the way Kyle is approaching this is wolfy and he's constantly reminding us that he's trying to read every post (which I believe him that he is) but that's busywork IMO and he's mafia.

I see what you mean when you put it this way, but don't share your confidence, think it's fairly nai for kyle but I would like more content

[falcon45ca]

Thunal backing off scum reading me? What kind of wishy-washy nonsense is this?

[Thunal33]

I meant that in that, Thunal has opened up a couple games by claiming that she's scum and I'm her partner (which isn't something I've seen from her in forum mafia yet).

I care more in forum mafia lol, I want to play well and early d1 suspicion is honestly draining to deal with.

[Timsup2nothin]

no one from syndicate is ever allowed to bitch about new posts in MU games ever again

[VOTE: thunal] aubergine

her tone feels stiff

For this application do I count as "from Syndicate" or as someone from...wherever I am from nowadays am I still allowed to bitch about new posts?

PS, what's "new posts"?

activity levels

i woke up to like 500 new posts

Oh...yeah I thankfully chose this game to adopt a "yeah, I'll read your posts when you are dead if I am not" approach to the early game. It seems to be working out.

You didn't tell me that I am not allowed to bitch though, so I probably will...but just to be annoying...I won't really mean anything by it.

So, Thunal? I have never ever played with Thunal, so if I read her posts will it make sense to me objectively that she is wolfing? Or is this a meta based thing where I can just sheep you without reading and be just as clued in.

[Thunal33]

no one from syndicate is ever allowed to bitch about new posts in MU games ever again

[VOTE: thunal] aubergine

her tone feels stiff

Im disliking thunal posts more and more, don't feel nearly as strongly as I do about radish but would be cool with a wagon there

Other than thunal do you have much in the way of reads from however many posts you have gotten through, dya?

Why are you disliking my posts?

[nutella]

tutuu you've never played with me before in a big game this is pretty much typical

Lies, Kyle is always supatown.

I don't understand this post, can you say it again pls?

Kyle's basically the no1 poster in every game I've seen him play. Keeping up levels of content on par with JJJ. His current play is very unlike him.

lmao

if he's close to top posting ever it's like 90% shitposts

much more like me than jay, that's a silly comparison

[Kylemii]

Master Radish, early posts are a "big mood" but he manages to get into a swing of things, and responds to nutella's case moderately well, I think? Throws out some prods that seem earnest to me.

In a regular 1 ball game I would rate this player as a slight town I think.Bexcept that doesn't really mean anything here, since mafia can be earnest too I guess. But for what it's worth, every post I've read from him comes from a relatable place which I can understand logically and spiritually.

[nutella]

@nutella did you see my spoiler comment before? what are your thoughts on it?

sorry, which one?

[dyachei]

no one from syndicate is ever allowed to bitch about new posts in MU games ever again

[VOTE: thunal] aubergine

her tone feels stiff

For this application do I count as "from Syndicate" or as someone from...wherever I am from nowadays am I still allowed to bitch about new posts?

PS, what's "new posts"?

activity levels

i woke up to like 500 new posts

Oh...yeah I thankfully chose this game to adopt a "yeah, I'll read your posts when you are dead if I am not" approach to the early game. It seems to be working out.

You didn't tell me that I am not allowed to bitch though, so I probably will...but just to be annoying...I won't really mean anything by it.

So, Thunal? I have never ever played with Thunal, so if I read her posts will it make sense to me objectively that she is wolfing? Or is this a meta based thing where I can just sheep you without reading and be just as clued in.

i think it's an objective thing but yes meta a bit, too

[nutella]

oh about mac right

[Thunal33]

no one from syndicate is ever allowed to bitch about new posts in MU games ever again

[VOTE: thunal] aubergine

her tone feels stiff

For this application do I count as "from Syndicate" or as someone from...wherever I am from nowadays am I still allowed to bitch about new posts?

PS, what's "new posts"?

activity levels

i woke up to like 500 new posts

Why didn't you scumread me on my tone earlier? I'm leaning towards you being town confbiasing but you said I didn't have a solving spark which motivated me to solve, and now you have another reason to scumread me that I think you would have noticed earlier.

[nutella]

anyways I have decided that I will never read a post again I am debuting a brand new strategy which is just doing yolo

[VOTE: martin] aubergine

this is fine lol

[Thunal33]

As far as Falcon, I'm not as confident as when I first had an aha moment reading through his ISO because people who have experience with him disagree but I still feel like he's been more blending in and doesn't have the town energy he had in Shadow Corridors.

[nutella]

no one from syndicate is ever allowed to bitch about new posts in MU games ever again

[VOTE: thunal] aubergine

her tone feels stiff

Im disliking thunal posts more and more, don't feel nearly as strongly as I do about radish but would be cool with a wagon there

Other than thunal do you have much in the way of reads from however many posts you have gotten through, dya?

kind of like tutuu, don't like thunal

not sure what to make of made tbh, i want to come to an alignment but i dont get what he's doing in thread

have some concerns about mac

believe alison

am like 30 pages behind still

sounds good I agree with most of this

[dyachei]

no one from syndicate is ever allowed to bitch about new posts in MU games ever again

[VOTE: thunal] aubergine

her tone feels stiff

For this application do I count as "from Syndicate" or as someone from...wherever I am from nowadays am I still allowed to bitch about new posts?

PS, what's "new posts"?

activity levels

i woke up to like 500 new posts

Why didn't you scumread me on my tone earlier? I'm leaning towards you being town confbiasing but you said I didn't have a solving spark which motivated me to solve, and now you have another reason to scumread me that I think you would have noticed earlier.

who said i wasn't also factoring that in earlier?

your tone is stilted and formal and lack the spark. they're 2 sides of the same coin

[Kylemii]

Martin has 5 on topic posts and 1 of them is hecking sus

That's a 20% sus level which for most townspeople is usually lethal.

Sample size too small to be meaningful though and also he's fallen behind after replacing in by accident or something like that so that's relatable.

[Sloonei]

[VOTE: thunal] aubergine for something quite silly that happened early in the game and I forgot about til just now:

Mac is mafia, actually.

Why do you think that?

I don’t, I was just saying that.

I decided to call Mac mafia for absolutely no reason. Pure "reaction testing" as we call it. Thunal was the only one to pick up on it, asking me why I felt that way. My response was deliberately goofy, meant again to elicit some sort of reaction. Except... Thunal didn't react at all. Thunal was still active in the thread at the time. It is possible she missed this post, but I made it provocative on purpose and got no response. That is not exactly cromulent in my book. I can read it as a player who recognizes a reaction test and retreats from it. Or she just didn't see it.

Honestly I thought that was just a reaction test for Mac or a joke.

Why didn't you respond at all?

[nutella]

no one from syndicate is ever allowed to bitch about new posts in MU games ever again

[VOTE: thunal] aubergine

her tone feels stiff

For this application do I count as "from Syndicate" or as someone from...wherever I am from nowadays am I still allowed to bitch about new posts?

PS, what's "new posts"?

activity levels

i woke up to like 500 new posts

Why didn't you scumread me on my tone earlier? I'm leaning towards you being town confbiasing but you said I didn't have a solving spark which motivated me to solve, and now you have another reason to scumread me that I think you would have noticed earlier.

this seems like a nitpicky discredit? is it not reasonable that dya continued to take issue with your posting style

I agree with them that you seem sorta stiff