Game of Champions 2020 [ENDGAME]

[Marmot]

This has been your third reminder that Radish is still scum.

Thank you.

Yes

But...

Is this just our 24-hour reminder, or is this about putting radishes in your taters?

[Michelle]

Spoiler: show

Which champion will you retire today?
Poll runs till Sat Feb 13, 2021 1:00 am
Please note that if you vote, your vote will be visible.

You may select 1 option


112
0
No votes
Voters: None
Alison
1
3%
Voters: falcon45ca
Cat
10
31%
Voters: nutella, 112, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, tutuu, Made, tedxtr, Timsup2nothin, Dyslexicon, Marmot, Thunal33
DrWilgy
0
No votes
Voters: None
Dyslexicon
0
No votes
Voters: None
falcon45ca
2
6%
Voters: MartinGG99, Justplayingitcool
Hyena
0
No votes
Voters: None
JackofHearts2005
0
No votes
Voters: None
JustPlayingitcool
1
3%
Voters: DrWilgy
Kylemii
0
No votes
Voters: None
Long Con
0
No votes
Voters: None
MacDougall
0
No votes
Voters: None
Made
0
No votes
Voters: None
Marmot
0
No votes
Voters: None
MartinGG99
1
3%
Voters: Kylemii
Master Radishes
0
No votes
Voters: None
Michelle
0
No votes
Voters: None
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
0
No votes
Voters: None
nutella
3
9%
Voters: cat, Syn, Jackofhearts2005
sig
0
No votes
Voters: None
Sloonei
0
No votes
Voters: None
Syn
0
No votes
Voters: None
Thunal33
6
19%
Voters: Master Radishes, dyachei, Sloonei, TonyStarkPrime, MacDougall, Michelle
Timsup2nothin
0
No votes
Voters: None
TonyStarkPrime
0
No votes
Voters: None
TurnipHead
1
3%
Voters: Hyena
tutuu
0
No votes
Voters: None
No vote
1
3%
Voters: Alison
No elimination
1
3%
Voters: Long Con
Tom Brady (host/non)
5
16%
Voters: juliets, Epignosis, c4e5g3d5, JaggedJimmyJay, dunya
Total votes: 32

VC

[Sloonei]

very little, and not sure when i'll get to reading it. not even sure if i'll read it, isoing seems like the better choice honestly.

How and why did you have a read on cat before reading the case against him?

[Marmot]

I've only played one game with tutuu

does she tend to try and flood the thread with pointless things as town during active gameplay

Is this for real?

yes...Tutuu really does that in her very lovable way, and Syn really whined about it in his...I think there was an absolute lack of anything AI there.

Ah, I meant specifically about the first line. Their relationship suggested to me that they'd played together more often

Also, I was there for that game, the three of us were scum-buddies together

[Kylemii]

good morning everyone

[Kylemii]

i just wanted u to know there is a character in the Witcher named Mouse Sack. you don't get that kind of quality in Bored of The Rings

[tedxtr]

very little, and not sure when i'll get to reading it. not even sure if i'll read it, isoing seems like the better choice honestly.

How and why did you have a read on cat before reading the case against him?

i got cliff'd by jpic, he said mac dunked on him, said i'll take a look later on and i did, by isoing. and then i just started skimming the thread back a few pages and got to a nutella quote where she quoted a line from a mac post that i've also ended up quoting.

and now i'll go play a turbo, bbl, @ me with other questions

[nutella]

hmmm, maybe thunal's just pocketed me

Her frustration came across as genuine to me

Im on this side too now ftr

[Kylemii]

been kind of taking a backseat approach to this while occasionally doing isos, thunal, cat, and falcon all seem like fine day 1 lynches

[nutella]

I have to say as well, that Thunal wagon feels really green to me.

Now that I look I guess it mostly looks nice

With the usual caveats

[nutella]

still feel good about the chances of cat being a hit

[Timsup2nothin]

I've only played one game with tutuu

does she tend to try and flood the thread with pointless things as town during active gameplay

Is this for real?

yes...Tutuu really does that in her very lovable way, and Syn really whined about it in his...I think there was an absolute lack of anything AI there.

Ah, I meant specifically about the first line. Their relationship suggested to me that they'd played together more often

Also, I was there for that game, the three of us were scum-buddies together

Oh. Well they have high relatedness from Discord, so it may seem like they have played together more than they really have.

[Thunal33]

done reading thunal's iso

usually how i'd read thunal in turbos is by the depth of her thought and aggressiveness in pushes. in here, she kind of goes for a push, starts talking about other things and then moves her vote. i don't really see any progression from her on the slot that she's voting at all either. it's kind of like, place the vote down, say why you did it, talk about something else, rinse and repeat. in other games i think there's a touch more investigation going on and relentlessly chasing the read down.

I think she's got a more formal tone and lacks her solving spark

you put it more eloquently but I think we're in agreement

I just wanted someone else who knows her to weigh in because she's also been trying to convince me that she's not a wolf by blaming it on the type of game or that she feels more free in turbos

I really can't change my tone in this game but I didn't say "it's just the type of game." It's probably because of real life, I'm moving back to school so I'm focused on things other than this game.

[Timsup2nothin]

Does anyone have a more compelling argument for why Cat is not a hit than "this seems too easy"? Because I agree with the sentiment on that one but I have decided not to follow it. Sometimes a wolf is just a wolf and I am not going to be driven by lack of confidence/wifom.

I have to do a post mortem and determine a cause of death, so I am gonna be busy for a while and if anyone has an answer they really think I should see make sure you quote me or ping me or whatever.

Spoiler: show

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in case you are worrying, the deceased is a vacuum cleaner

[nutella]

Completely random tangent:

What is everyone's opinions on Tim?

town

[Michelle]

@dyachei you said you want two votes and received Marmot's
If you need another one, i'll give you mine

[dyachei]

@dyachei you said you want two votes and received Marmot's
If you need another one, i'll give you mine

i really want the top 2 wagons to be thunal and cat

I've explained thunal a lot and I think cat's a hit too (mostly based on mac's case)

i think that if both those wagons were to die today I'd be pretty happy

[nutella]

Does anyone have a more compelling argument for why Cat is not a hit than "this seems too easy"? Because I agree with the sentiment on that one but I have decided not to follow it. Sometimes a wolf is just a wolf and I am not going to be driven by lack of confidence/wifom.

I have to do a post mortem and determine a cause of death, so I am gonna be busy for a while and if anyone has an answer they really think I should see make sure you quote me or ping me or whatever.

Spoiler: show

Spoiler: show

in case you are worrying, the deceased is a vacuum cleaner

Weird I just had a dream about a vacuum cleaner. I was vacuuming up a bunch of spilled crumbs of chocolate cake.

[Thunal33]

Arguments for me being a wolf:
-I don't have the motivation/solving spark as in other games
-My tone is less emotional and more formal
-I'm not pushing people as hard

I don't see why you get to that I'm a wolf from those. I'm putting as much effort in this game as I can (probably more effort than I can at some points tbh) and I feel badly that it's somehow not showing. I'm moving back to school and I also have a lot of work to do so I'm stressed out and can't focus on this game as much as I can for most games. I'm not super excited right now because my mind isn't on this game, it's on going back to school. My tone being stiff/formal is completely normal for me (as you can see if you skimmed the town games I linked, but I don't think anyone did) and it's unfair to compare turbos to normal games.

@tedxtr @dyachei Since you're reading me based on my behavior in turbos, I want you to take a look at this.

In a turbo graveyard Actvscenei said: I only know Thunal from two games and both times she was VT. This game is notably different from when I’ve played with her. But, idk if that’s because this is a turbo and her play style is different, or if she’s scum or PT. But I don’t think she’s VT.

I was VT that turbo. I know Act from full length games on MafC and she noticed I acted really differently in turbos than in normal games. Here's the graveyard for context: https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/threads/29681

[Syn]

I've only played one game with tutuu

does she tend to try and flood the thread with pointless things as town during active gameplay

Is this for real?

yes...Tutuu really does that in her very lovable way, and Syn really whined about it in his...I think there was an absolute lack of anything AI there.

Ah, I meant specifically about the first line. Their relationship suggested to me that they'd played together more often

Also, I was there for that game, the three of us were scum-buddies together

oh we play together alright

[cat]

I'm around for a little bit, but i'm on mobile so i can't do much. I felt pretty sluggish today, but after a long nap and some tea i'm a little better.

I get why i'm a wagon, why is thunal the counterwagon?
From what i remember there wasn't anything too bad about thunal and i even liked some of the points they made. Anyone can link a case?

[Justplayingitcool]

I've only played one game with tutuu

does she tend to try and flood the thread with pointless things as town during active gameplay

Is this for real?

yes...Tutuu really does that in her very lovable way, and Syn really whined about it in his...I think there was an absolute lack of anything AI there.

Ah, I meant specifically about the first line. Their relationship suggested to me that they'd played together more often

Also, I was there for that game, the three of us were scum-buddies together

oh we play together alright

Dont make me bonk you

[dyachei]

Arguments for me being a wolf:
-I don't have the motivation/solving spark as in other games
-My tone is less emotional and more formal
-I'm not pushing people as hard

I don't see why you get to that I'm a wolf from those. I'm putting as much effort in this game as I can (probably more effort than I can at some points tbh) and I feel badly that it's somehow not showing. I'm moving back to school and I also have a lot of work to do so I'm stressed out and can't focus on this game as much as I can for most games. I'm not super excited right now because my mind isn't on this game, it's on going back to school. My tone being stiff/formal is completely normal for me (as you can see if you skimmed the town games I linked, but I don't think anyone did) and it's unfair to compare turbos to normal games.

@tedxtr @dyachei Since you're reading me based on my behavior in turbos, I want you to take a look at this.

In a turbo graveyard Actvscenei said: I only know Thunal from two games and both times she was VT. This game is notably different from when I’ve played with her. But, idk if that’s because this is a turbo and her play style is different, or if she’s scum or PT. But I don’t think she’s VT.

I was VT that turbo. I know Act from full length games on MafC and she noticed I acted really differently in turbos than in normal games. Here's the graveyard for context: https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/threads/29681

it's not about effort, it's about tone and how you're solving

Iwish you'd stop blaming yourself for activity levels because god knows you've been active

it just does very little to move the needle for me when i look at your cases and how you're presenting them

thunal, even though I'm wolf reading you this game, I have a ton of respect for you and your game and I usually get there on you being a villager. You don't have to convince me you're worthy. it's not about that

[Kylemii]

Completely random tangent:

What is everyone's opinions on Tim?

big town vibes

absent a flip i think he's good

[Justplayingitcool]

hmmm, maybe thunal's just pocketed me

Her frustration came across as genuine to me

Im on this side too now ftr

Yeah, Im still not convinced with the thunal case but there was one post the other day that just made me want to townread her for

[Kylemii]

Does anyone have a more compelling argument for why Cat is not a hit than "this seems too easy"? Because I agree with the sentiment on that one but I have decided not to follow it. Sometimes a wolf is just a wolf and I am not going to be driven by lack of confidence/wifom.

I have to do a post mortem and determine a cause of death, so I am gonna be busy for a while and if anyone has an answer they really think I should see make sure you quote me or ping me or whatever.

Spoiler: show

Spoiler: show

in case you are worrying, the deceased is a vacuum cleaner

Weird I just had a dream about a vacuum cleaner. I was vacuuming up a bunch of spilled crumbs of chocolate cake.

nutella broke tim's vacuum vote nutelal

[Thunal33]

Arguments for me being a wolf:
-I don't have the motivation/solving spark as in other games
-My tone is less emotional and more formal
-I'm not pushing people as hard

I don't see why you get to that I'm a wolf from those. I'm putting as much effort in this game as I can (probably more effort than I can at some points tbh) and I feel badly that it's somehow not showing. I'm moving back to school and I also have a lot of work to do so I'm stressed out and can't focus on this game as much as I can for most games. I'm not super excited right now because my mind isn't on this game, it's on going back to school. My tone being stiff/formal is completely normal for me (as you can see if you skimmed the town games I linked, but I don't think anyone did) and it's unfair to compare turbos to normal games.

@tedxtr @dyachei Since you're reading me based on my behavior in turbos, I want you to take a look at this.

In a turbo graveyard Actvscenei said: I only know Thunal from two games and both times she was VT. This game is notably different from when I’ve played with her. But, idk if that’s because this is a turbo and her play style is different, or if she’s scum or PT. But I don’t think she’s VT.

I was VT that turbo. I know Act from full length games on MafC and she noticed I acted really differently in turbos than in normal games. Here's the graveyard for context: https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/threads/29681

it's not about effort, it's about tone and how you're solving

Iwish you'd stop blaming yourself for activity levels because god knows you've been active

it just does very little to move the needle for me when i look at your cases and how you're presenting them

thunal, even though I'm wolf reading you this game, I have a ton of respect for you and your game and I usually get there on you being a villager. You don't have to convince me you're worthy. it's not about that

Thanks. I know it's not that you don't respect me and I'm not blaming myself for activity, I'm genuinely confused and frustrated that I can't stop being different because my real life circumstances are different and the game circumstances are also different. I'm frustrated that despite my effort I feel like I don't have anything to show for it. I think after I get settled back in school and finish the big assignment I have (I'm moving back Sunday) then I might have more of that spark.

Can you please skim these town games?
https://mafiacafe.boards.net/thread/177 ... ue-retreat
https://mafiacafe.boards.net/thread/183 ... cine-mafia

[Kylemii]

outed vacuum killer

[Sloonei]

I had a beef with Hyena prior to the roleclaim business, and I don't really regard the claim as clearing him anyway, so let's drag it up:

Spoiler: show

At some point I also need to collect my thoughts into something approaching a comprehensive view of the game. There's too many players, and too many absentees, to do that satisfyingly, but so far I've done more pot stirring than solving. This Day 1 has lasted about a month, so things should be starting to crystallize soon. But I'm gonna try to spend the evening away from this thread as well.

Why the hell are you mad about me pot stirring when you're doing it too?

It starts here. Hyena has been under increasing scrutiny for much of the day, and around this time his play appears to lighten up severely. Notably, this new direction starts up in direct response to my allusion to "pot stirring" as opposed to "solving", but that was something of a misleading dichotomy on my part. Pot stirring is the groundwork for solving, so it's really all one process. But as soon as I said that about myself, Hyena latched onto that term (pot stirring) to justify all of the behavior that had got him into hot water in the first place:

Spoiler: show

At some point I also need to collect my thoughts into something approaching a comprehensive view of the game. There's too many players, and too many absentees, to do that satisfyingly, but so far I've done more pot stirring than solving. This Day 1 has lasted about a month, so things should be starting to crystallize soon. But I'm gonna try to spend the evening away from this thread as well.

Why the hell are you mad about me pot stirring when you're doing it too?

Hypocrisy is a staple of the civilian playbook, Hyena. What pots have you been stirring?

I've been stirring you, for one! Syn was unintentionally. I also stirred up Mac to a degree, I think. Nutella knows me too well to get baited by me, I think. Those are the only ones I'm revealing right now. :P

We have almost 24 hours to go and I have no intention about getting more active...but based on my limited participation I am not feeling it on Hyena and would oppose that chop. Made is...meh. If things are the same as they are now with an hour to EoD I would start pushing Nutella probably, just to see if the Made push is serious, then go with whichever seemed bedt choice to push past Hyena.

After the lack of response from Made to my post + the vote Made made on me, I wanna pursue him. I haven't really gone looking for anyone else to pursue yet though. Starting to do that right now with people I haven't really looked at yet, like MR.

So you dismiss mine, Syn, and Made's pushes on you as OMGUS then you do this? I get the feeling you care more about surviving than solving the game. Like, Made is a really convenient push for you at this point.

Oh, I'm not doing any solving right now, lol. Guilty as charged. I'm just trying to get people to spill their guts out D1 and do stuff/react to stuff so that I have more interactions to read later on.

I asked Hyena why he had been "trolling"/"stirring" me earlier and never got a response. I have seen no indication of a particular reason why Hyena has chosen any of his targets or tactics thus far, other than the co-opted use of the "pot stirring" label. And my objection to his use of the term is that it seemed as though he saw my admission of the strategy as license to claim it for himself. Hyena sees Town Leader Sloonei professing a certain strategy for himself and decides to say "Yeah, that's also what I've been doing!"
He addressed my concern here:

Spoiler: show

inb4 this is another mindmeld with sloonei

I was thinking it looks like Hyena took my "pot stirring instead of solving" comment as license to make the same claim as an excuse for their sporadic behavior.

I don't need to use your comment as an excuse. I can just point to all the times I've done it in other games when I'm town. <3

@Sloonei, you should ask Nutella, Mac, and 112 about my play in MU Champs S6W1. <3

Especially about the stuff starting from this post: One of my greatest performances <3

... but this does not address my concern at all. This is not what I am talking about. I am not accusing Hyena of doing something they have never done before, and my objection is not to the "pot stirring" approach on Day 1. I am objecting to what I perceive as a shift in Hyena's behavior once the pressure had reached a critical point. This shift in behavior included but was not limited to a sudden adoption of the claim that they "haven't been solving", and instead have been focused on "pot stirring". This claim coincides with a much goofier and more playful Hyena. It feels like a bit of an overcompensation. An attempt at "TWTBAW" as the kids like to say.

And then shortly after comes the roleclaim:

Spoiler: show

So, it's kinda early in the day considering we still have about 48 hours left in the day, but I feel like this is a good time to say this:

I am a PR who can probably easily confirm myself. :P I'll go into more details if you guys want, but what I'm saying is that I'm probably not a good place to go as far as a d1 yeet (or any day yeet) goes.

I can chose someone who's alive to have a chat with someone who is dead each phase. Obviously I can't do anything right now since no one is dead yet.

If Hyena is mafia, the first attempt to shake off suspicion is failing. The big gun is a roleclaim. That seems to have worked, at least for now. And yet, as Mac has pointed out, this is an ability that has been assigned to a mafia role in the past year on this site, and there is nothing inherently town about it anyway. There is nothing inherently anti-town about it either, but at best I can only regard this role/ability as inconclusive with regards to alignment. And so I am back to reading Hyena on behavior. And on behavior, I do not feel great about Hyena. I think all of the posts I've highlighted here look like a player desperate not to be voted, rather than a player who is trying to make reads. As I mentioned above, the whole "pot stirring" approach is a preliminary stage of solving, and yet Hyena seems to be viewing it as liberation from the need to solve the game. That is something I do not like. I'm gonna go ahead and move my vote back to [VOTE: hyena] aubergine.

Granted, I have not read much of Hyena's posts since the claim. I don't know what he's talked about or done since then. Maybe he's starting showing real hints of solving the game since then. If not, that is what I need to see from Hyena.
At a glance, post-claim Hyena does not seem all that different from pre-game Hyena. This post indicates a handful of reads, but "I could go for Martin" isn't exactly a rousing conclusion. Why Martin? There's a whiff of deconstructed salad here.

@Hyena you've stirred the pot enough. We've only got a few hours left. Time to start putting the pieces together. What are the major reads you have, and why? Who might be getting your vote today?

[dyachei]

Arguments for me being a wolf:
-I don't have the motivation/solving spark as in other games
-My tone is less emotional and more formal
-I'm not pushing people as hard

I don't see why you get to that I'm a wolf from those. I'm putting as much effort in this game as I can (probably more effort than I can at some points tbh) and I feel badly that it's somehow not showing. I'm moving back to school and I also have a lot of work to do so I'm stressed out and can't focus on this game as much as I can for most games. I'm not super excited right now because my mind isn't on this game, it's on going back to school. My tone being stiff/formal is completely normal for me (as you can see if you skimmed the town games I linked, but I don't think anyone did) and it's unfair to compare turbos to normal games.

@tedxtr @dyachei Since you're reading me based on my behavior in turbos, I want you to take a look at this.

In a turbo graveyard Actvscenei said: I only know Thunal from two games and both times she was VT. This game is notably different from when I’ve played with her. But, idk if that’s because this is a turbo and her play style is different, or if she’s scum or PT. But I don’t think she’s VT.

I was VT that turbo. I know Act from full length games on MafC and she noticed I acted really differently in turbos than in normal games. Here's the graveyard for context: https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/threads/29681

it's not about effort, it's about tone and how you're solving

Iwish you'd stop blaming yourself for activity levels because god knows you've been active

it just does very little to move the needle for me when i look at your cases and how you're presenting them

thunal, even though I'm wolf reading you this game, I have a ton of respect for you and your game and I usually get there on you being a villager. You don't have to convince me you're worthy. it's not about that

Thanks. I know it's not that you don't respect me and I'm not blaming myself for activity, I'm genuinely confused and frustrated that I can't stop being different because my real life circumstances are different and the game circumstances are also different. I'm frustrated that despite my effort I feel like I don't have anything to show for it. I think after I get settled back in school and finish the big assignment I have (I'm moving back Sunday) then I might have more of that spark.

Can you please skim these town games?
https://mafiacafe.boards.net/thread/177 ... ue-retreat
https://mafiacafe.boards.net/thread/183 ... cine-mafia

my schedule is a little full to be skimming town games right now. at work, have multiple obligations to deal with

[Timsup2nothin]

Does anyone have a more compelling argument for why Cat is not a hit than "this seems too easy"? Because I agree with the sentiment on that one but I have decided not to follow it. Sometimes a wolf is just a wolf and I am not going to be driven by lack of confidence/wifom.

I have to do a post mortem and determine a cause of death, so I am gonna be busy for a while and if anyone has an answer they really think I should see make sure you quote me or ping me or whatever.

Spoiler: show

Spoiler: show

in case you are worrying, the deceased is a vacuum cleaner

Weird I just had a dream about a vacuum cleaner. I was vacuuming up a bunch of spilled crumbs of chocolate cake.

Possibly the vacuum cleaner in your dream represents me, as I have vacuumed a number of chocolate cakes in my day.

I am currently profoundly annoyed with the dead vacuum cleaner and trying to decide if it is worth going out to acquire the unique tooling needed to split the case, or whether it would be better to just tell my gf it is irrevocably dead and she needs to just get a new one.

[Sloonei]

Does anyone have a more compelling argument for why Cat is not a hit than "this seems too easy"? Because I agree with the sentiment on that one but I have decided not to follow it. Sometimes a wolf is just a wolf and I am not going to be driven by lack of confidence/wifom.

I have to do a post mortem and determine a cause of death, so I am gonna be busy for a while and if anyone has an answer they really think I should see make sure you quote me or ping me or whatever.

Spoiler: show

Spoiler: show

in case you are worrying, the deceased is a vacuum cleaner

I have played one game with cat, and I hard forgotten about it until being reminded because I lead a mischop against him on Day 1. That is my biggest reservation. Cat is an unfamiliar face in a sea of faces I know.

I forget why we voted for him in the Christmas game.

[Timsup2nothin]

I'm around for a little bit, but i'm on mobile so i can't do much. I felt pretty sluggish today, but after a long nap and some tea i'm a little better.

I get why i'm a wagon, why is thunal the counterwagon?
From what i remember there wasn't anything too bad about thunal and i even liked some of the points they made. Anyone can link a case?

Good grief...could you say any clearer "we are wolf wolf but leave Thunal alone after you kill me"?

I think Cat's a hit and trying to drag Thunal out behind them.

[nutella]

Does anyone have a more compelling argument for why Cat is not a hit than "this seems too easy"? Because I agree with the sentiment on that one but I have decided not to follow it. Sometimes a wolf is just a wolf and I am not going to be driven by lack of confidence/wifom.

I have to do a post mortem and determine a cause of death, so I am gonna be busy for a while and if anyone has an answer they really think I should see make sure you quote me or ping me or whatever.

Spoiler: show

Spoiler: show

in case you are worrying, the deceased is a vacuum cleaner

I have played one game with cat, and I hard forgotten about it until being reminded because I lead a mischop against him on Day 1. That is my biggest reservation. Cat is an unfamiliar face in a sea of faces I know.

I forget why we voted for him in the Christmas game.

last night I pulled up their iso from the 8ball game where they were mafia, and felt it bears a lot of similarity to their posts in this game, would recommend you take a look if you have the chance

[112]

@dyachei you said you want two votes and received Marmot's
If you need another one, i'll give you mine

i really want the top 2 wagons to be thunal and cat

I've explained thunal a lot and I think cat's a hit too (mostly based on mac's case)

i think that if both those wagons were to die today I'd be pretty happy

yeah but if you're maf and they're both town of course you'd want the wagon/cw to be thun/cat

[Sloonei]

I'm around for a little bit, but i'm on mobile so i can't do much. I felt pretty sluggish today, but after a long nap and some tea i'm a little better.

I get why i'm a wagon, why is thunal the counterwagon?
From what i remember there wasn't anything too bad about thunal and i even liked some of the points they made. Anyone can link a case?

Do you have any thoughts on any of the people who are voting for you?

[Master Radishes]

Ftr I agree cat feels like a hit.

That said...

I have played one game with cat, and I hard forgotten about it until being reminded because I lead a mischop against him on Day 1. That is my biggest reservation. Cat is an unfamiliar face in a sea of faces I know.

I forget why we voted for him in the Christmas game.

This is worth considering.

(And was it cat who was also in Simpsons? And were they an early mischop there?)

[Sloonei]

Does anyone have a more compelling argument for why Cat is not a hit than "this seems too easy"? Because I agree with the sentiment on that one but I have decided not to follow it. Sometimes a wolf is just a wolf and I am not going to be driven by lack of confidence/wifom.

I have to do a post mortem and determine a cause of death, so I am gonna be busy for a while and if anyone has an answer they really think I should see make sure you quote me or ping me or whatever.

Spoiler: show

Spoiler: show

in case you are worrying, the deceased is a vacuum cleaner

I have played one game with cat, and I hard forgotten about it until being reminded because I lead a mischop against him on Day 1. That is my biggest reservation. Cat is an unfamiliar face in a sea of faces I know.

I forget why we voted for him in the Christmas game.

last night I pulled up their iso from the 8ball game where they were mafia, and felt it bears a lot of similarity to their posts in this game, would recommend you take a look if you have the chance

i might take a look soon, but i'm short on time and have a few other things I want to get to before I go.

[Master Radishes]

Completely random tangent:

What is everyone's opinions on Tim?

big town vibes

absent a flip i think he's good

Basically was looking for people to say this to solidify my own very hesitant town vibes a bit.

[nutella]

@dyachei you said you want two votes and received Marmot's
If you need another one, i'll give you mine

i really want the top 2 wagons to be thunal and cat

I've explained thunal a lot and I think cat's a hit too (mostly based on mac's case)

i think that if both those wagons were to die today I'd be pretty happy

yeah but if you're maf and they're both town of course you'd want the wagon/cw to be thun/cat

What is the point of saying this

[nutella]

simpsons socks changed but i was able to find which one is lisa (cat) here http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/search ... 1&sr=posts

feels more snippy overall than here, some of that could be game size tbh

here is their iso in christmas, also town search.php?st=0&sk=t&sd=a&sr=posts&t=1984&author_id=809

and here is 8ball where they were scum http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/search ... 5&sr=posts

both also very small games / short isos but i do feel like the scum iso shows the most similarity to their posts here. in like...general postshape. like they feel the need to say more things and comment on various topics idk. my vote is staying just from looking at these 8ball posts

for reference

[112]

@dyachei you said you want two votes and received Marmot's
If you need another one, i'll give you mine

i really want the top 2 wagons to be thunal and cat

I've explained thunal a lot and I think cat's a hit too (mostly based on mac's case)

i think that if both those wagons were to die today I'd be pretty happy

yeah but if you're maf and they're both town of course you'd want the wagon/cw to be thun/cat

What is the point of saying this

just getting it out of my system, been a rough few days

[Master Radishes]

@Sloonei just want to say I've read your big ol' Hyena post. I see your view on it. His approach to defending himself seems more about deflecting your accusations rather than answering them. The role claim came pretty early in the phase.

I can't say I've had anything but pure null feelings on Hyena, but I think you have a case worth considering.

[TonyStarkPrime]

so many frickin posts

[TonyStarkPrime]

@dyachei you said you want two votes and received Marmot's
If you need another one, i'll give you mine

i really want the top 2 wagons to be thunal and cat

I've explained thunal a lot and I think cat's a hit too (mostly based on mac's case)

i think that if both those wagons were to die today I'd be pretty happy

bad vibes

[Timsup2nothin]

Does anyone have a more compelling argument for why Cat is not a hit than "this seems too easy"? Because I agree with the sentiment on that one but I have decided not to follow it. Sometimes a wolf is just a wolf and I am not going to be driven by lack of confidence/wifom.

I have to do a post mortem and determine a cause of death, so I am gonna be busy for a while and if anyone has an answer they really think I should see make sure you quote me or ping me or whatever.

Spoiler: show

Spoiler: show

in case you are worrying, the deceased is a vacuum cleaner

I have played one game with cat, and I hard forgotten about it until being reminded because I lead a mischop against him on Day 1. That is my biggest reservation. Cat is an unfamiliar face in a sea of faces I know.

I forget why we voted for him in the Christmas game.

last night I pulled up their iso from the 8ball game where they were mafia, and felt it bears a lot of similarity to their posts in this game, would recommend you take a look if you have the chance

I'm feeling that "too easy" thing that I swore not to give in to. Day one mischop in Christmas...I don't know who they were in Simpsons (and yes I have probably already been told once) but there were a couple of really easy mischops town just gave us in that game...

Tell me...in the 8ball game where they were mafia did they just get hard sussed and off to the chop...because that is starting to look like their town tell.

[nutella]

@Sloonei just want to say I've read your big ol' Hyena post. I see your view on it. His approach to defending himself seems more about deflecting your accusations rather than answering them. The role claim came pretty early in the phase.

I can't say I've had anything but pure null feelings on Hyena, but I think you have a case worth considering.

Why am I mindmelding with you now
We cannot escape coronavirus (mafia)

[cat]

Do you have any thoughts on any of the people who are voting for you?

Here to wait for my death. Not to solve me, atleast judging from the last few pages. You will wait for D2 and then blame it on inactivity or something. A bunch of people prodding at others to avoid backlash later probably. It took one post to look at Thunal/dyachei interaction that dyachei is completely ignoring Thunal right now to push them . Nutella is being helpful and actually doing stuff. I'm not sure why you are trying to counterwagon right now when i'm the top wagon.

[dyachei]

@dyachei you said you want two votes and received Marmot's
If you need another one, i'll give you mine

i really want the top 2 wagons to be thunal and cat

I've explained thunal a lot and I think cat's a hit too (mostly based on mac's case)

i think that if both those wagons were to die today I'd be pretty happy

bad vibes

time to get your vibes re-calibrated then

[dyachei]

all these people pretending they've never wanted to flip 2 people before

I call you on your lies