Game of Champions 2020 [ENDGAME]

[MacDougall]

literally why are we not voting for nanook?

[VOTE: nanook] aubergine

why would we be?

i think he's wolf :/

anything specific?

[MacDougall]

I am pretty confident the mafia ruthlessly bussed cat btw.

I think the Falcon wagon is >rand town and Falcon is probably mafia.

[112]

literally why are we not voting for nanook?

[VOTE: nanook] aubergine

why would we be?

i think he's wolf :/

anything specific?

mostly things and stuff

he's lost his usual bravado, isn't complaining about wagons as much as he normally does and is kinda just coasting by

i think he'd be a much stronger presence in the game if he's town

[MacDougall]

literally why are we not voting for nanook?

[VOTE: nanook] aubergine

why would we be?

i think he's wolf :/

anything specific?

mostly things and stuff

he's lost his usual bravado, isn't complaining about wagons as much as he normally does and is kinda just coasting by

i think he'd be a much stronger presence in the game if he's town

riiiiight

what else you got, any other reads?

[Long Con]

okay, so in my defense, I thought the night ended later, and showed up to thread like an hour after the day ended.
Anyways, from what I understand, i'm bad because I voted cat, and then didn't come back to thread to...change my vote? encourage others to vote cat?

mainly it's the way you followed mac's case like an excited puppy

It's actually entirely the way that cat manuevered carefully his way to get his vote off made while made was a wagon. Made is easily mafia but if people wanna outthink themselves that's fine.

Well, that does sound reasonable. [VOTE: made] aubergine

[nutella]

[VOTE: nanook] aubergine

[Long Con]

[VOTE: nanook] aubergine

You like the things n' stuff case?

[Hyena]

Looking for spew in Cat's ISO,

i should probably say something less fluffy. my iso is probably awful rn

You shouldn't. If you don't want to, no one is forcing you.
Shows a mindset of producing empty content.
[VOTE: Made] aubergine

nutella is wolfin'

Do you have an explanation for this? Why is this your only read and who did you steal it from?
If you had no reads at all it would be very towny but this sticks out as a sore thumb.

These two posts were made close together. Mac made an argument yesterday that Made and Cat are probably teammates; does Cat try to distance from two different teammates simulataneously? If Mac hadn't made the argument that Made was Cat's teammate, I'd actually say that Syn is town from the shade Cat casts on them. Even if Made does flip mafia, I think I may still lean town on Syn.

nutella is wolfin'

Do you have an explanation for this? Why is this your only read and who did you steal it from?
If you had no reads at all it would be very towny but this sticks out as a sore thumb.

[VOTE: cat] aubergine

i have to reach but there are 0 scummy posts posted itt fmpov so im aiming at this

perhaps cat could be scum for pre-emptively explaining "If you had no reads at all it would be very towny but this sticks out as a sore thumb." to his scumread syn

perhaps, if one was town, its more likely that they wouldnt pre-emptively "reveal their hand" like this to a scumread of theirs

I have no reason to not do it. If someone says ''you're scum, go.'' i literally wouldn't care to defend. If someone says ''he's scum, jump on with me'' i wouldnt care either unless i had a read already.

Syn's response was bad btw.

I think this strengthens my townread on Syn. Also, I think I feel more confident about calling Tutuu town now?

(will continue in a moment!)

[112]

literally why are we not voting for nanook?

[VOTE: nanook] aubergine

why would we be?

i think he's wolf :/

anything specific?

mostly things and stuff

he's lost his usual bravado, isn't complaining about wagons as much as he normally does and is kinda just coasting by

i think he'd be a much stronger presence in the game if he's town

riiiiight

what else you got, any other reads?

i have everyone else in the game as absolute null

[nutella]

[VOTE: nanook] aubergine

You like the things n' stuff case?

what?

[nutella]

oh you mean 112's post

nah i have been wolfreading nanook since the dawn of time

[112]

oh you mean 112's post

nah i have been wolfreading nanook since the dawn of time

enlightenment feels good

[nutella]

Looking for spew in Cat's ISO,

i should probably say something less fluffy. my iso is probably awful rn

You shouldn't. If you don't want to, no one is forcing you.
Shows a mindset of producing empty content.
[VOTE: Made] aubergine

nutella is wolfin'

Do you have an explanation for this? Why is this your only read and who did you steal it from?
If you had no reads at all it would be very towny but this sticks out as a sore thumb.

These two posts were made close together. Mac made an argument yesterday that Made and Cat are probably teammates; does Cat try to distance from two different teammates simulataneously? If Mac hadn't made the argument that Made was Cat's teammate, I'd actually say that Syn is town from the shade Cat casts on them. Even if Made does flip mafia, I think I may still lean town on Syn.

nutella is wolfin'

Do you have an explanation for this? Why is this your only read and who did you steal it from?
If you had no reads at all it would be very towny but this sticks out as a sore thumb.

[VOTE: cat] aubergine

i have to reach but there are 0 scummy posts posted itt fmpov so im aiming at this

perhaps cat could be scum for pre-emptively explaining "If you had no reads at all it would be very towny but this sticks out as a sore thumb." to his scumread syn

perhaps, if one was town, its more likely that they wouldnt pre-emptively "reveal their hand" like this to a scumread of theirs

I have no reason to not do it. If someone says ''you're scum, go.'' i literally wouldn't care to defend. If someone says ''he's scum, jump on with me'' i wouldnt care either unless i had a read already.

Syn's response was bad btw.

I think this strengthens my townread on Syn. Also, I think I feel more confident about calling Tutuu town now?

(will continue in a moment!)

so you and tutuu are cat's teammates? cool

[nutella]

maybe syn too loool

[Long Con]

I liked Hyena's post, nutella. I thought he made good points and it seemed towny.

[nutella]

okay so

i actually think that hyena spew post is >rand w, and feel like one of syn/tutuu is town and one is a teammate and he's tying the spew together and hoping to pocket the other

or something


i also think we have to read a lot of cat's stuff as antispew and draw ~opposite conclusions bc they knew they were going down


for that reason i think thunal is town

[nutella]

I liked Hyena's post, nutella. I thought he made good points and it seemed towny.

ok well i'm telling you i think it's the kind of thing a wolf might do to try and push conclusions based on a dead teammate that they want to look like the truth

but you also could be right idk

[nutella]

idk, analyzing stuff like this is hard and can sometimes go either way

but i dont feel great about hyena

[Hyena]

I also think Tutuu is town more strongly now for baiting Michelle. Idt Michelle is necessarily scummy for forgetting Esooa was playing, i've seen town do that before (I saw a townie seriously put the hosts in his readslist once).

Playing the game makes you towny? Damn.
I think michelle not being scummy here is the general consensus,most people straight up ignored this.

I don't know what Cat was going for here, but I think he's trying to shade Thunal? I'm not sure what was being ignored?

Those last few posts from Nutella super sus.

i want to townread this post too wtf i should stop. i dont think im doing this right. surely at least 1 wolf has posted by now

Towny. And yes those posts were sus. Nutella both acknowledges what's going on bringing attention to but kind of brushes it under the rug at the same time.

Lol, Cat might have been trying to buddy up with Tutuu here even after Tutuu called him scum.

[VOTE: Nanook] aubergine btw

You just said Tutuu was scum!

and?

Towny. Scumreading then going back to townread on Hyena makes it even better.
I'll steal the metaread on Hyena as well.

I think Mac mentioned this already, but Cat might have been trying to buddy up with Mac, too.

[VOTE: michelle] aubergine

I looked at the post counts and hers was the highest surprising number. She’s got 70 posts but I feel like I’ve barely noticed her.

And you have almost 150.

This is the second time Cat has said something in defense of Michelle? I think I wanna call Michelle town for it?

[Long Con]

I liked Hyena's post, nutella. I thought he made good points and it seemed towny.

ok well i'm telling you i think it's the kind of thing a wolf might do to try and push conclusions based on a dead teammate that they want to look like the truth

but you also could be right idk

No, I bet you're right. Remember, I'm going against what I think in this game.

[Hyena]

so you and tutuu are cat's teammates? cool

Yeah, we didn't want to tell you because... well... you're an elephant, not a cat. >.>

[nutella]

i dont care about any of that, michelle is obv town anyway, i think cat deliberately tried to make it look like thunal was his teammate (he was reluctant to vote there/was defending her softly from dya's accusations)

[MacDougall]

Cat spew

Thunal town
Tutuu slightly town
Sloonei slightly mafia

That's my spew reads

[Hyena]

maybe syn too loool

Syn isn't a cat though!

[Made]

yo, so this isn't important, or relevant to anything, but I was really hoping night would be open so we could play D&D without stalling the thread...

[Hyena]

i dont care about any of that, michelle is obv town anyway, i think cat deliberately tried to make it look like thunal was his teammate (he was reluctant to vote there/was defending her softly from dya's accusations)

I haven't seen where Cat tried to make Thunal look like his teammate yet. o: Based on the post I quoted, I would think the opposite.

[MacDougall]

i dont care about any of that, michelle is obv town anyway, i think cat deliberately tried to make it look like thunal was his teammate (he was reluctant to vote there/was defending her softly from dya's accusations)

I haven't seen where Cat tried to make Thunal look like his teammate yet. o: Based on the post I quoted, I would think the opposite.

After I cased Cat pretty much all Cat did was hard and I mean hard question the Thunal push and defend her. He spent more time defending her than he did himself. You never do a teammate like that.

[Dyslexicon]

ONE death in a game this size?

I look forward to this game concluding some time in the summer of 2022.

[Hyena]

I don't think Syn would keep pushing Nute if he was wolfing, so there's that

I don't understand the logic, please elaborate

nute's obvtown

Why? Can you explain their meta? I'd say nutella is uncomfortable in the thread.

The way Cat continuously goes against people who are going against Michelle (112 in this case) makes me think that he was just trying to buddy up to Michelle here and taking her side in arguments/reads. This doesn't indicate anything about Nute's alignment here, but I think it may be clearing for 112?

[Hyena]

i dont care about any of that, michelle is obv town anyway, i think cat deliberately tried to make it look like thunal was his teammate (he was reluctant to vote there/was defending her softly from dya's accusations)

I haven't seen where Cat tried to make Thunal look like his teammate yet. o: Based on the post I quoted, I would think the opposite.

After I cased Cat pretty much all Cat did was hard and I mean hard question the Thunal push and defend her. He spent more time defending her than he did himself. You never do a teammate like that.

Okay, okay. I haven't gotten to that part yet, I think. Either way, my conclusion was, again, that Thunal was probably town on the post I quoted. :P

[Syn]

Looking for spew in Cat's ISO,

i should probably say something less fluffy. my iso is probably awful rn

You shouldn't. If you don't want to, no one is forcing you.
Shows a mindset of producing empty content.
[VOTE: Made] aubergine

nutella is wolfin'

Do you have an explanation for this? Why is this your only read and who did you steal it from?
If you had no reads at all it would be very towny but this sticks out as a sore thumb.

These two posts were made close together. Mac made an argument yesterday that Made and Cat are probably teammates; does Cat try to distance from two different teammates simulataneously? If Mac hadn't made the argument that Made was Cat's teammate, I'd actually say that Syn is town from the shade Cat casts on them. Even if Made does flip mafia, I think I may still lean town on Syn.

nutella is wolfin'

Do you have an explanation for this? Why is this your only read and who did you steal it from?
If you had no reads at all it would be very towny but this sticks out as a sore thumb.

[VOTE: cat] aubergine

i have to reach but there are 0 scummy posts posted itt fmpov so im aiming at this

perhaps cat could be scum for pre-emptively explaining "If you had no reads at all it would be very towny but this sticks out as a sore thumb." to his scumread syn

perhaps, if one was town, its more likely that they wouldnt pre-emptively "reveal their hand" like this to a scumread of theirs

I have no reason to not do it. If someone says ''you're scum, go.'' i literally wouldn't care to defend. If someone says ''he's scum, jump on with me'' i wouldnt care either unless i had a read already.

Syn's response was bad btw.

I think this strengthens my townread on Syn. Also, I think I feel more confident about calling Tutuu town now?

(will continue in a moment!)

I wouldn't be too quick on this. My first message in any scum chat is giving consent for being bussed or tunneled.

[MacDougall]

Of course Cat might be smart enough to antispew that hard to get her read as never teammated. That'd be clever. I don't care. What I hate is that Sloonei extracted it all from him. Sloonei was coordinating the creation of the antispew.

[Made]

....wait...so are we are sure the Dya actually died, and wasn't literally put on administrative leave?

[nutella]

alright im not so sure about hyena

mac bringing up sloonei is interesting i

i hate to say this but i can see it


i think it's likely one of hyena/sloon is w

[Hyena]

@cat what is your point in making note of my post count?

I personally don't remember pretty much anything you've done. And you have a lot of posts.
So i thought it would be funny to point it out since you are doing the same thing.

I don't understand the logic, please elaborate

nute's obvtown

Why? Can you explain their meta? I'd say nutella is uncomfortable in the thread.

How much have you read?

Most of it, but i've skimmed when it got too memey.

I feel as though I have been heavily involved in the progression of this game.

What reads do you have to share with us?

The ones i have.

@MacDougall You mentioned Cat might have been ruthlessly bussed and that Sloonei may be spewed wolf from Cat. Are you suggesting that Sloonei was one of the people ruthlessly bussing Cat? If so, why would they just get on the Cat wagon EoD yesterday instead of staying on me? o:

[MacDougall]

@cat what is your point in making note of my post count?

I personally don't remember pretty much anything you've done. And you have a lot of posts.
So i thought it would be funny to point it out since you are doing the same thing.

nute's obvtown

Why? Can you explain their meta? I'd say nutella is uncomfortable in the thread.

How much have you read?

Most of it, but i've skimmed when it got too memey.

I feel as though I have been heavily involved in the progression of this game.

What reads do you have to share with us?

The ones i have.

@MacDougall You mentioned Cat might have been ruthlessly bussed and that Sloonei may be spewed wolf from Cat. Are you suggesting that Sloonei was one of the people ruthlessly bussing Cat? If so, why would they just get on the Cat wagon EoD yesterday instead of staying on me? o:

I see, so Nutella is right and it is you that is the mafia. Thanks for clearing that up.

[Hyena]

I personally don't remember pretty much anything you've done. And you have a lot of posts.
So i thought it would be funny to point it out since you are doing the same thing.

Why? Can you explain their meta? I'd say nutella is uncomfortable in the thread.

How much have you read?

Most of it, but i've skimmed when it got too memey.

I feel as though I have been heavily involved in the progression of this game.

What reads do you have to share with us?

The ones i have.

@MacDougall You mentioned Cat might have been ruthlessly bussed and that Sloonei may be spewed wolf from Cat. Are you suggesting that Sloonei was one of the people ruthlessly bussing Cat? If so, why would they just get on the Cat wagon EoD yesterday instead of staying on me? o:

I see, so Nutella is right and it is you that is the mafia. Thanks for clearing that up.

No prob. <3

[Alison]

Offered LC Tracker last night. He accepted.

[Hyena]

Nice to see Made wagon and me not reading anyone on it as wolf, staying here until i finish reading.
Sloonei i don't understand your question at all. Can you answer it first?

@Sloonei

I'm just asking what kind of mafia player you are. I believe this is our first time playing together (I hosted you in Simpsons, but did not follow that game super closely), so I'm just looking to understand what you're trying to do in this game right now, what sort of things you're looking for, etc.

OK that makes more sense, i thought you were telling me to do something.
I'm trying to catch up but i keep getting distracted by everything. I gave up on reading tutuu because i'm too lazy. When i read i skip memes and i look for people's thought process and trying to figure out how are they approaching the game. Hoping to vote out atleast 1 mafia this game.

That was a softball question from Sloonei compared to the questioning I got from him. And Cat still couldn't answer it without sounding awkward.

[nutella]

Of course Cat might be smart enough to antispew that hard to get her read as never teammated. That'd be clever. I don't care. What I hate is that Sloonei extracted it all from him. Sloonei was coordinating the creation of the antispew.

hmmmm

[Hyena]

Michelle town.

One read down.

Due to that spoiler thing a few posts up?

Just generally saying things wolf Michelle doesn’t say imo. Shiny in a Michelle way. Like bronze.

I'll steal it.

Cat had been buddying up with Michelle for how long and just now he's calling Michelle town? And it's not even his read?

Here's the thing I'm curious about though -- if he doesn't want credit for a Michelle town read, is it possible that he was hoping to not look bad if Michelle ever flipped mafia? Based on how much he was buddying up with her, I still want to call her town, but it's interesting to see him want to "steal" a read on her rather than just make one himself.

Yep, Falcon is too stubborn to be scum. Take that with a grain of salt.

Good news, i feel i collected some town reads

Refusing to play the game is a common strat here. He gave reads anyway so it's not like he's that stubborn. GTH mafia. No balls.

I think Falcon is town from this.

[nutella]

I personally don't remember pretty much anything you've done. And you have a lot of posts.
So i thought it would be funny to point it out since you are doing the same thing.

Why? Can you explain their meta? I'd say nutella is uncomfortable in the thread.

How much have you read?

Most of it, but i've skimmed when it got too memey.

I feel as though I have been heavily involved in the progression of this game.

What reads do you have to share with us?

The ones i have.

@MacDougall You mentioned Cat might have been ruthlessly bussed and that Sloonei may be spewed wolf from Cat. Are you suggesting that Sloonei was one of the people ruthlessly bussing Cat? If so, why would they just get on the Cat wagon EoD yesterday instead of staying on me? o:

I see, so Nutella is right and it is you that is the mafia. Thanks for clearing that up.

LOL

[nutella]

Nice to see Made wagon and me not reading anyone on it as wolf, staying here until i finish reading.
Sloonei i don't understand your question at all. Can you answer it first?

@Sloonei

I'm just asking what kind of mafia player you are. I believe this is our first time playing together (I hosted you in Simpsons, but did not follow that game super closely), so I'm just looking to understand what you're trying to do in this game right now, what sort of things you're looking for, etc.

OK that makes more sense, i thought you were telling me to do something.
I'm trying to catch up but i keep getting distracted by everything. I gave up on reading tutuu because i'm too lazy. When i read i skip memes and i look for people's thought process and trying to figure out how are they approaching the game. Hoping to vote out atleast 1 mafia this game.

That was a softball question from Sloonei compared to the questioning I got from him. And Cat still couldn't answer it without sounding awkward.

I did think that sloonei's early push on cat could be like a softball thing of getting a teammate to do stuff mrrrrrrrr

[nutella]

why does my sloonei paranoia have to start so early ;_;

[Made]

let's see what the people think about this

[VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine

[Long Con]

yo, so this isn't important, or relevant to anything, but I was really hoping night would be open so we could play D&D without stalling the thread...

Maybe we can get Epi to leave it open, but ONLY D&D posts are allowed!

Offered LC Tracker last night. He accepted.

ha ha ha I, uh, don't know what you are talking about...!

[Hyena]

Why would town fake their position? And subsequently, forget?

This thought seems unrealistic. I hope i'm being played and this is a fake thought for sarcasm.

JPIC's post was in reference to me bullshitting about stuff, so Cat is defending me here, similarly to how he seemed to be defending Michelle. Coincidentally, he also "stole" Mac's townread on me earlier. This kinda makes me think that Michelle is the same alignment as I am, which means that she is, in fact town.

Still think JPIC is town, too.

[Timsup2nothin]

I am pretty confident the mafia ruthlessly bussed cat btw.

I think the Falcon wagon is >rand town and Falcon is probably mafia.

Agree 100% with ruthless bussing likely...the rest less than 100% but generally still agreement.

[nutella]

@Dyslexicon hey dizzy thoughts? about anything? about thunal? about the dya kill? about radish? about sloonei? about cat spew? pls gimme stuff

[nutella]

@Hyena do you have any further thoughts on sloonei? for instance if his push on you (and singular focus on you rather than cat at eod) could have been in bad faith?