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Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 5:26 pm LC and Nook seem like possible wolf slots hopping on a fresh tutuu wagon that built up some early momentum.

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I think his case on Made is way better, and a quick partial read of Made's ISO (yes I have started doing work...not much, but some) looks to me like casting about in a "anyone but me" search for a viable wagon rather than any real attempt to solve.Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 5:21 pm Gotta say, this is more votes on tutuu than I expected.
Mac's case is decent but not exactly a slam dunk.
I think what we have here is a very good case made day one, that produced a wagon too early on day two, and now people are looking for something sexier than "yeah, Mac caught Cat and Made interacting badly in the thread and we just need to finish killing them."
We had the right wagon straight out the gate today and the key is going to be just not getting distracted by every squirrel that runs past us.
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the case is very goodTimsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 2:34 pmYour description of how Tutuu reacted is consistent with how I have seen town react before. So your conclusion that this reaction means that Tutuu is a wolf seems...sketchy.Syn wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 2:30 pmI don't care about how town responds to Mac. I care about how wolves react.Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 2:29 pmI've seen town respond to Mac exactly that way.Syn wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 2:27 pmI mean, you just need to read her responses to Mac, and everyone else during Mac's casing. She immediately resorts to insulting him and pretending as though she's the victim of some maligning that she's helpless against. She demands a case, gets provided it, and then says she can't work under these conditions, and then uses that to dismiss the case, lol. C'mon.MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 2:24 pmLovely. So what is?
The one post out of the 500 she makes or something? Or is it a consistency across 100 posts?
Well, actually, forget "panicking" part.
Mac and LC here saw me panic to their godamm faces as town in my last game and I knew I had to do something to show to them that I was town; I managed to live to N3 before being night-killed
Actually its not so much that its "panicking" whether its actually happening or not that's scummy
its the fact that you're even using it (a percieved panic) as a reason in addition to "being caught" in the first place to scum-read
that's why it felt so bad to me
The question isn't how Tutuu is reacting, the question is *was Mac's case good*? Can you answer that one for me?
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I am thinking at this game and the fact you are not so active.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 5:24 pmI do not. I don’t even remember shadow corridors unless that’s the game where the wolves were anonymous.Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 1:29 pm@Jackofhearts2005 do you know what I'm thinking reading this?Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 1:11 pmWell, falcon fits the mold for both.MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 1:00 pmHonestly I don't think its worth reading into it for me
because if it is a big mafia team then there could be good arguments for both trying to push and trying to protect cat as being scum
and I think the nuances of that could be confused for the wrong alignment especially in such a big game where even I wouldn't be surprised if at least one town had some bad interaction
at the very least I hope to find something independently scummy and not just "Oh they had X interaction with person with Y flip, therefore they must be evil/scum/mafia!"
I still think it's worth looking into. Yes we could be wrong and hit townies, but we run that risk regardless of our strategy.
Fwiw, in Shadow Corridors, we did desperately try to protect JackofHearts from going down, with no success. But you are right. Despite my late vote for the counterwagon (NIK), I was never really sussed for it. I had a good reason to vote NIK, but I had no defense for Jack aside from "he's just town guys, don't bake him".
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if memory serves mac's legacy was wrong in both games i wolfed and he was voting wrong in both
in the game with the masons he was wrong on townreading wilgy and i sheeped that
i know that you are too tunneled to even consider me being town nutella and you are going to have a knee jerk reaction to make a smug post to reply to this, but i do hope that after my flip people will start playing more independently
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is there realistically a point in me trying? am i wrong in my read that the majority of people on my wagon are too tunneled and are not very likely to have the ability to get themselves out of their wrong tunnels?
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mac's points were good, tutuu dismissed them as silly, they were not sillyTimsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 2:48 pmAccused isn't pushed.
Right now you are pushing, hard...but your push is all about her reacting to Mac. I already said that IMO this is a bad push, because panicking under a Mac attack is NAI. I'm not the only one to point that out.
Basically I invited you to recenter your push and suggested two things you could center it on...Mac's case, or your initial sus/accusation. Instead, you just snark. If Tutuu is town and goes over you wind up holding a very big bag of snakes and could go over behind her, which if you are town is a big problem.
So, please provide better grounds for such a hard push.
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if i flip town would u still argue that they were good?nutella wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 5:30 pmmac's points were good, tutuu dismissed them as silly, they were not sillyTimsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 2:48 pmAccused isn't pushed.
Right now you are pushing, hard...but your push is all about her reacting to Mac. I already said that IMO this is a bad push, because panicking under a Mac attack is NAI. I'm not the only one to point that out.
Basically I invited you to recenter your push and suggested two things you could center it on...Mac's case, or your initial sus/accusation. Instead, you just snark. If Tutuu is town and goes over you wind up holding a very big bag of snakes and could go over behind her, which if you are town is a big problem.
So, please provide better grounds for such a hard push.
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 2]
I've yet to make an effort to read Made, so sure.Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 5:28 pmI think his case on Made is way better, and a quick partial read of Made's ISO (yes I have started doing work...not much, but some) looks to me like casting about in a "anyone but me" search for a viable wagon rather than any real attempt to solve.Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 5:21 pm Gotta say, this is more votes on tutuu than I expected.
Mac's case is decent but not exactly a slam dunk.
I think what we have here is a very good case made day one, that produced a wagon too early on day two, and now people are looking for something sexier than "yeah, Mac caught Cat and Made interacting badly in the thread and we just need to finish killing them."
We had the right wagon straight out the gate today and the key is going to be just not getting distracted by every squirrel that runs past us.
I think tutuu's responses have been...uninspiring. It's basically just 'why can't a townie do that though'. But her general, um, attitude seems similar to when she was falsely accused in Bike Mafia. She argued back against every little point with a clear sense of frustration, albeit didn't exactly logically dismantle the arguments so much as get a bit AtE-y. That's the same attitude as here.
So I dunno. GTH tutuu is probably scum, but I could go for a tastier case atm.
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 2]
if you are scum martin is your teammatetutuu wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 2:50 pm in this situation if i decide to townread syn and scumread martin its like
its like...
its like im drowning and someone is giving me a hand to save me and i give them the middle finger instead and deep dive into the water myself
and yet ive seen this be the correct play for me to make in this situation
if you are town martin is whiteknighting you for cred
i think he's just p much always mafia here? lol
but then so are you based on like *gestures at everything*
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Tim/Mac/nutella/syn/jack/hyena/tsp/thunMichelle wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:27 amGimme the link please, I want to read themNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:16 am My reads are the same as they were yesterday
Literally no changes
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 2]
Case is okay. I really wasn't questioning the case, just trying to get Syn's opinion on it. I think it is nowhere near good enough to justify the lock Syn has slammed on her, but Syn gonna Syn.nutella wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 5:28 pmthe case is very goodTimsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 2:34 pmYour description of how Tutuu reacted is consistent with how I have seen town react before. So your conclusion that this reaction means that Tutuu is a wolf seems...sketchy.Syn wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 2:30 pmI don't care about how town responds to Mac. I care about how wolves react.Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 2:29 pmI've seen town respond to Mac exactly that way.Syn wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 2:27 pmI mean, you just need to read her responses to Mac, and everyone else during Mac's casing. She immediately resorts to insulting him and pretending as though she's the victim of some maligning that she's helpless against. She demands a case, gets provided it, and then says she can't work under these conditions, and then uses that to dismiss the case, lol. C'mon.MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 2:24 pmLovely. So what is?
The one post out of the 500 she makes or something? Or is it a consistency across 100 posts?
Well, actually, forget "panicking" part.
Mac and LC here saw me panic to their godamm faces as town in my last game and I knew I had to do something to show to them that I was town; I managed to live to N3 before being night-killed
Actually its not so much that its "panicking" whether its actually happening or not that's scummy
its the fact that you're even using it (a percieved panic) as a reason in addition to "being caught" in the first place to scum-read
that's why it felt so bad to me
The question isn't how Tutuu is reacting, the question is *was Mac's case good*? Can you answer that one for me?
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 2]
i think he saved me from getting nked :')Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 2:50 pmIm still trying to wrap my head around his insistent push on nutella day 1 even when she started to look very townie as the day progressed
otherwise idk but hes towny af now
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This is wrong, I have held back my frustration very well, it is a huge improvement over how I was beforeMaster Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 5:33 pm I think tutuu's responses have been...uninspiring. It's basically just 'why can't a townie do that though'. But her general, um, attitude seems similar to when she was falsely accused in Bike Mafia. She argued back against every little point with a clear sense of frustration, albeit didn't exactly logically dismantle the arguments so much as get a bit AtE-y. That's the same attitude as here.
also it's NAI for me to express frustration since I did it as wolf too otherwise it would have been a trust tell that would give me unfair town reads
I have logically dismantled the logical parts of Mac's case
The parts where he doesn't take me seriously I have responded in the same nature
The parts where other people aren't taking me seriously I am also responding in similar nature
Please quote me a part of someone casing me that I didn't logically dismantle. If not I'd like you to rescind this claim
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 2]
Made reminds me of me in radiohead. I’d be interested to see if you think the sameMaster Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 5:33 pmI've yet to make an effort to read Made, so sure.Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 5:28 pmI think his case on Made is way better, and a quick partial read of Made's ISO (yes I have started doing work...not much, but some) looks to me like casting about in a "anyone but me" search for a viable wagon rather than any real attempt to solve.Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 5:21 pm Gotta say, this is more votes on tutuu than I expected.
Mac's case is decent but not exactly a slam dunk.
I think what we have here is a very good case made day one, that produced a wagon too early on day two, and now people are looking for something sexier than "yeah, Mac caught Cat and Made interacting badly in the thread and we just need to finish killing them."
We had the right wagon straight out the gate today and the key is going to be just not getting distracted by every squirrel that runs past us.
I think tutuu's responses have been...uninspiring. It's basically just 'why can't a townie do that though'. But her general, um, attitude seems similar to when she was falsely accused in Bike Mafia. She argued back against every little point with a clear sense of frustration, albeit didn't exactly logically dismantle the arguments so much as get a bit AtE-y. That's the same attitude as here.
So I dunno. GTH tutuu is probably scum, but I could go for a tastier case atm.
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Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 6:00 amPretty easily.tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 5:56 amHow would you describe the difference between your gameplay here and Radiohead?Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 5:51 am Literally, I am genuinely fucking confused with the Radiohead comparison. This is how I play as town
I think it's no secret that I was open wolfing and not really playing. When the watch result was revealed I was all-in on the open wolfing.
In this game, I feel like I am playing more seriously, making pushes on players I find sus and making more interactions with people. Not that this proves that I am town, but I do feel the comparison is unfounded and ridiculous, if not insulting.
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....i dont understand this at allMartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 3:15 pm if she is scum here, her scum game has improved and that was one of my original reasons for town-reading her as I believe she was close to being outside of her scum-range. Its just seems that some people's WIFOM-eters are distorting their perception of where that scum-range ends.
have you seen her scum games
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 2]
Yeah, on reflection im not sure syn reacts the way he did with martin and tim earlier if he was scum.nutella wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 5:35 pmi think he saved me from getting nked :')Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 2:50 pmIm still trying to wrap my head around his insistent push on nutella day 1 even when she started to look very townie as the day progressed
otherwise idk but hes towny af now
I don’t think syn and tutuu are scum together but it does feel like w/v
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 2]
I hate reading AtEtutuu wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 5:38 pmJustplayingitcool wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 6:00 amPretty easily.tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 5:56 amHow would you describe the difference between your gameplay here and Radiohead?Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 5:51 am Literally, I am genuinely fucking confused with the Radiohead comparison. This is how I play as town
I think it's no secret that I was open wolfing and not really playing. When the watch result was revealed I was all-in on the open wolfing.
In this game, I feel like I am playing more seriously, making pushes on players I find sus and making more interactions with people. Not that this proves that I am town, but I do feel the comparison is unfounded and ridiculous, if not insulting.
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im not actually scum based off anything, i am yet to hear a coherent reason on why im scumnutella wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 5:35 pmif you are scum martin is your teammatetutuu wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 2:50 pm in this situation if i decide to townread syn and scumread martin its like
its like...
its like im drowning and someone is giving me a hand to save me and i give them the middle finger instead and deep dive into the water myself
and yet ive seen this be the correct play for me to make in this situation
if you are town martin is whiteknighting you for cred
i think he's just p much always mafia here? lol
but then so are you based on like *gestures at everything*
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 2]
lol.tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 3:19 pma player being good at scum and mimicing their town game flawlessly doesnt mean that u should needlessly vote them for no reason. that gives u exact rand chance to net a scum flipJustplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 3:01 pmWhat I'm trying to say is, what should a townie look out for to read a town!tutuu correctly. Like, you can sort of see where the frustration and paranoia is coming from if you mimic your town play exactly as scum.tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 2:58 pmi dont think theres a key difference, and there shouldnt beJustplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 2:55 pm @tutuu
I've only played with you one game, and I was scum in Radiohead. What would you say is the key difference between how you play as scum compared with town. I know you said you mimic your town play, but I'm wondering if there's an obvious difference between the two plays.at least from my pov
but ive also noticed that when im scum i tend to get a lot more townread than when im town. and i get tunneled and pushed a lot more as town. altho the sample size is really unequal (only 2 scum games compared to a ton of town games)
i understand not having me in top tier towns cuz i could always be wolfing, sure, but like, didya see mac's actual case? did u see syn's case? like please look at them, for real, thoroughly. i believe that i am able to remove myself from my bias and to call both cases on me illogical and lacking substance or merit even though im the subject of them
the only scumread given on me that has some logic is when mac pointed out how i constantly swapped my reads on cat and thunal. thats it
everything else is absurd and i invite you to, if you want to, check it yourself and form an opinion for yourself
about reading me, perhaps you could just, i dunno, look at the moment and read my soul? idk
like marmot is hard to read and is super good as scum and yet im confident that he's town here even tho his scum range is huge
dya is an amazing scum player and everyone told me "wtf tutuu how can u townread dya by their opening posts" and yet i did and i was right
in conclusion: just be correct![]()
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i bet my left kidney that if people werent scumreading me you wouldnt be scumreading me too nutella even if i was making the exact same posts word for word
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mm actually i can see martin doing this as town with a strong read but i think hes wrong
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 2]
Well, you were a wolf there and I think he's a wolf here, so sure. If you want greater depth it's gonna be tough given I barely read here and I barely remember Radiohead. I will say from what little I do remember that Tutuu here sort of reminds me of me in Radiohead, but ymmv.Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 5:36 pmMade reminds me of me in radiohead. I’d be interested to see if you think the sameMaster Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 5:33 pmI've yet to make an effort to read Made, so sure.Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 5:28 pmI think his case on Made is way better, and a quick partial read of Made's ISO (yes I have started doing work...not much, but some) looks to me like casting about in a "anyone but me" search for a viable wagon rather than any real attempt to solve.Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 5:21 pm Gotta say, this is more votes on tutuu than I expected.
Mac's case is decent but not exactly a slam dunk.
I think what we have here is a very good case made day one, that produced a wagon too early on day two, and now people are looking for something sexier than "yeah, Mac caught Cat and Made interacting badly in the thread and we just need to finish killing them."
We had the right wagon straight out the gate today and the key is going to be just not getting distracted by every squirrel that runs past us.
I think tutuu's responses have been...uninspiring. It's basically just 'why can't a townie do that though'. But her general, um, attitude seems similar to when she was falsely accused in Bike Mafia. She argued back against every little point with a clear sense of frustration, albeit didn't exactly logically dismantle the arguments so much as get a bit AtE-y. That's the same attitude as here.
So I dunno. GTH tutuu is probably scum, but I could go for a tastier case atm.
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 2]
Thanks, are these scum or town reads?NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 5:35 pmTim/Mac/nutella/syn/jack/hyena/tsp/thunMichelle wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:27 amGimme the link please, I want to read themNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:16 am My reads are the same as they were yesterday
Literally no changes
Idk if I posted them in one place before and it’s easier to consult my notes anyways
how do you take notes?
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 2]
hmtutuu wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 3:49 pm before i forget
during night 1 someone visited me and did something
(paraphrased) they threw me a pitch and i get to make the choice whether or not i wanna swing or not, i must decide this today (this isn't related to my role)
if anyone wants to claim this go ahead
if not i will assume this is a scum role and i wont take the unnecessary chance
even if i get yeeted i wont take the swing unless someone hard claims this
i was looking for anyone soft claiming this but didnt see
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 2]
Our definitions of 'logically dismantle' may differ, so I'm not going to fall into a yes-it-is-no-it-isn't argument with you.tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 5:36 pmThis is wrong, I have held back my frustration very well, it is a huge improvement over how I was beforeMaster Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 5:33 pm I think tutuu's responses have been...uninspiring. It's basically just 'why can't a townie do that though'. But her general, um, attitude seems similar to when she was falsely accused in Bike Mafia. She argued back against every little point with a clear sense of frustration, albeit didn't exactly logically dismantle the arguments so much as get a bit AtE-y. That's the same attitude as here.
also it's NAI for me to express frustration since I did it as wolf too otherwise it would have been a trust tell that would give me unfair town reads
I have logically dismantled the logical parts of Mac's case
The parts where he doesn't take me seriously I have responded in the same nature
The parts where other people aren't taking me seriously I am also responding in similar nature
Please quote me a part of someone casing me that I didn't logically dismantle. If not I'd like you to rescind this claim
Tim opened a dialogue with me and I replied to him with stuff that's on my mind.
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 2]
Town reads. I increasingly don’t really do scum reads.Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 5:42 pmThanks, are these scum or town reads?NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 5:35 pmTim/Mac/nutella/syn/jack/hyena/tsp/thunMichelle wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:27 amGimme the link please, I want to read themNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:16 am My reads are the same as they were yesterday
Literally no changes
Idk if I posted them in one place before and it’s easier to consult my notes anyways
how do you take notes?
Notes app on my phone. They’re not really notes so much as “I’m going to write my confident reads down so when people like Michelle ask me later I don’t have to dig through my iso to figure out which one I’m forgetting”

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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 2]
Gotta be honest, I barely remember that game. I got mech cleared early and wasn't very active after that.Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 5:36 pmMade reminds me of me in radiohead. I’d be interested to see if you think the sameMaster Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 5:33 pmI've yet to make an effort to read Made, so sure.Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 5:28 pmI think his case on Made is way better, and a quick partial read of Made's ISO (yes I have started doing work...not much, but some) looks to me like casting about in a "anyone but me" search for a viable wagon rather than any real attempt to solve.Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 5:21 pm Gotta say, this is more votes on tutuu than I expected.
Mac's case is decent but not exactly a slam dunk.
I think what we have here is a very good case made day one, that produced a wagon too early on day two, and now people are looking for something sexier than "yeah, Mac caught Cat and Made interacting badly in the thread and we just need to finish killing them."
We had the right wagon straight out the gate today and the key is going to be just not getting distracted by every squirrel that runs past us.
I think tutuu's responses have been...uninspiring. It's basically just 'why can't a townie do that though'. But her general, um, attitude seems similar to when she was falsely accused in Bike Mafia. She argued back against every little point with a clear sense of frustration, albeit didn't exactly logically dismantle the arguments so much as get a bit AtE-y. That's the same attitude as here.
So I dunno. GTH tutuu is probably scum, but I could go for a tastier case atm.
But I can go take a glance and see if it refreshes my memory.
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 2]
Im trying to remember what tutuu was like in Radiohead but I don’t really remember due to not making any reads then lolTimsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 5:42 pmWell, you were a wolf there and I think he's a wolf here, so sure. If you want greater depth it's gonna be tough given I barely read here and I barely remember Radiohead. I will say from what little I do remember that Tutuu here sort of reminds me of me in Radiohead, but ymmv.Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 5:36 pmMade reminds me of me in radiohead. I’d be interested to see if you think the sameMaster Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 5:33 pmI've yet to make an effort to read Made, so sure.Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 5:28 pmI think his case on Made is way better, and a quick partial read of Made's ISO (yes I have started doing work...not much, but some) looks to me like casting about in a "anyone but me" search for a viable wagon rather than any real attempt to solve.Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 5:21 pm Gotta say, this is more votes on tutuu than I expected.
Mac's case is decent but not exactly a slam dunk.
I think what we have here is a very good case made day one, that produced a wagon too early on day two, and now people are looking for something sexier than "yeah, Mac caught Cat and Made interacting badly in the thread and we just need to finish killing them."
We had the right wagon straight out the gate today and the key is going to be just not getting distracted by every squirrel that runs past us.
I think tutuu's responses have been...uninspiring. It's basically just 'why can't a townie do that though'. But her general, um, attitude seems similar to when she was falsely accused in Bike Mafia. She argued back against every little point with a clear sense of frustration, albeit didn't exactly logically dismantle the arguments so much as get a bit AtE-y. That's the same attitude as here.
So I dunno. GTH tutuu is probably scum, but I could go for a tastier case atm.
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 2]
When tutuu doesn't want to fall into a yes-it-is-no-it-isn't argument with MacDougall she is being illogical and expressing AtE.Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 5:43 pmOur definitions of 'logically dismantle' may differ, so I'm not going to fall into a yes-it-is-no-it-isn't argument with you.tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 5:36 pmThis is wrong, I have held back my frustration very well, it is a huge improvement over how I was beforeMaster Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 5:33 pm I think tutuu's responses have been...uninspiring. It's basically just 'why can't a townie do that though'. But her general, um, attitude seems similar to when she was falsely accused in Bike Mafia. She argued back against every little point with a clear sense of frustration, albeit didn't exactly logically dismantle the arguments so much as get a bit AtE-y. That's the same attitude as here.
also it's NAI for me to express frustration since I did it as wolf too otherwise it would have been a trust tell that would give me unfair town reads
I have logically dismantled the logical parts of Mac's case
The parts where he doesn't take me seriously I have responded in the same nature
The parts where other people aren't taking me seriously I am also responding in similar nature
Please quote me a part of someone casing me that I didn't logically dismantle. If not I'd like you to rescind this claim
Tim opened a dialogue with me and I replied to him with stuff that's on my mind.
Clearly, she could have responded to every thing MacDougall threw at her.
Clearly the same rules don't apply to Master Radishes.
Clearly tutuu is the illogical one here.
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 2]
Yeah we could.
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 2]
i don't think this tutuu stuff is fruitful and it's kinda clogging up the thread
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 2]
[VOTE:
long con] aubergine
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 2]
it's not as basic as that lol
marmot's whole pov coming in looks awkward like he sees you are a wagon and is starting to wonder if he should just bus
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 2]
Logically dismantle me bb
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 2]
Sure.tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 5:47 pmWhen tutuu doesn't want to fall into a yes-it-is-no-it-isn't argument with MacDougall she is being illogical and expressing AtE.Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 5:43 pmOur definitions of 'logically dismantle' may differ, so I'm not going to fall into a yes-it-is-no-it-isn't argument with you.tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 5:36 pmThis is wrong, I have held back my frustration very well, it is a huge improvement over how I was beforeMaster Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 5:33 pm I think tutuu's responses have been...uninspiring. It's basically just 'why can't a townie do that though'. But her general, um, attitude seems similar to when she was falsely accused in Bike Mafia. She argued back against every little point with a clear sense of frustration, albeit didn't exactly logically dismantle the arguments so much as get a bit AtE-y. That's the same attitude as here.
also it's NAI for me to express frustration since I did it as wolf too otherwise it would have been a trust tell that would give me unfair town reads
I have logically dismantled the logical parts of Mac's case
The parts where he doesn't take me seriously I have responded in the same nature
The parts where other people aren't taking me seriously I am also responding in similar nature
Please quote me a part of someone casing me that I didn't logically dismantle. If not I'd like you to rescind this claim
Tim opened a dialogue with me and I replied to him with stuff that's on my mind.
Clearly, she could have responded to every thing MacDougall threw at her.
Clearly the same rules don't apply to Master Radishes.
Clearly tutuu is the illogical one here.
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 2]
okay but im vibing with syn a lot on itMaster Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 5:22 pmBoth Syn and Martin are way more confident in their tutuu reads than I'd expect from people uninformed of her true alignment, tbh.
martin *could* be mafia with tmi on tutuu town, if she is
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idk. i might be reading too much into something that martin could just do as town with a strong read, meh
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 2]
[VOTE:
Martin] aubergine
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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 2]
1. MacDougall is a washing machine.
2. All washing machines are being dismantled.
3. Per 1 and 2, MacDougall is being dismantled.