Game of Champions 2020 [ENDGAME]

[MartinGG99]

the only problem I have with this is that I can't tell if I'm supposed to be a disposable PR or non-disposable

[MartinGG99]

(and that I'm town but tbh if it clears tutuu and thunal by me flipping town that would be awesome like 2 cop checks by D2)

[Justplayingitcool]

@Master Radishes

Please can you just apologise

[Long Con]

Did tedxtr replace Turnip Head? [VOTE: tedxtr] aubergine

[MartinGG99]

but seriously guys I'm glad you guys think I've been so good it can only be explained as TMI xD

[MacDougall]

so I come back to the thread 3 hours later to find I got 7 votes

lovely

at least it isn't tutuu or thunal

See?

[MartinGG99]

Its SUCH A BIG CHANGE from people constantly doubting me on my slot alone for stupid reasons such as "oh they had bad interaction with X scum" (which is the primary reason I got mis-deleted in grasslands and Bike mafia games)

[MacDougall]

So your flip clears thunal and tutuu?

[Made]

but seriously guys I'm glad you guys think I've been so good it can only be explained as TMI xD

Actually yo wait. @Thread, don't you need tmi to know something is tmi?

[MartinGG99]

but anyways I'm going to compile how I feel about ppl

[MartinGG99]

So your flip clears thunal and tutuu?

I was skimming past 50 posts or something

some people were saying I TMI'ed Thunal and Tutuu

the thing is

in order to believe a person TMI'ed someone as town even after prevailing to ensure they are not deleted

you ought to believe my reasons that got them off the deletion train in the first place

[tutuu]

@Master Radishes

Please can you just apologise

i dont want an apology and i dont appreciate this constant notion that all im doing is be upset at master radish. this is condescending

i want him to back up his argument. if he does and he proves that he was right in his assessment of me then i am the one who will apologize for being wrong so much

i care about stuff being right or wrong and i care about that more than feelings being hurt or catered to

[MartinGG99]

otherwise you don't actually believe I had TMI and just think it looks like TMI

and you're just greedy that killing me as scum (AND ONLY AS SCUM) would clear those two slots

[MartinGG99]

Which honestly is a sad and lazy way of solving tutuu and thunal that won't work and I do hope people have trusted my reasons, even if they believe its because of TMI that I made them

[TonyStarkPrime]

obligitaroy note for when I eventually claim my role, which is coronavirus: all joker gifs itt are not to be taken seriously

Are you 3p btw

town town town

[nutella]

Which honestly is a sad and lazy way of solving tutuu and thunal that won't work and I do hope people have trusted my reasons, even if they believe its because of TMI that I made them

i think they are both town regardless of your alignment so flipping you wouldnt add confidence

[TonyStarkPrime]

Are we to this point in a game ?

[TonyStarkPrime]

Guys I think Nanook is a wolf

[MartinGG99]

Which honestly is a sad and lazy way of solving tutuu and thunal that won't work and I do hope people have trusted my reasons, even if they believe its because of TMI that I made them

actually we didn't even know it wasn't multiball (possibly) until after N1

as mafia depending on the size and # of 3P's I couldn't have exactly TMI'ed that thunal was town in some cases btw

[nutella]

Guys I think Nanook is a wolf

Ok

[Made]

Are we to this point in a game ?

in a literal sense, yes. I don't know what you mean though

What point is "this point"?

[MartinGG99]

Because I made that hard-defense read on D1.

[MartinGG99]

i think they are both town regardless of your alignment so flipping you wouldnt add confidence

Sure. But do the others think that?

[TonyStarkPrime]

Guys I think Nanook is a wolf

Ok

I mean it

[MartinGG99]

I mean, we quite litterally had 6 or 7 votes on her, possibly yours included idk, and yet somehow that's shrunk to 3 just hours earlier

I'm not sure if they would have the same confidence as you

[nutella]

Which honestly is a sad and lazy way of solving tutuu and thunal that won't work and I do hope people have trusted my reasons, even if they believe its because of TMI that I made them

actually we didn't even know it wasn't multiball (possibly) until after N1

as mafia depending on the size and # of 3P's I couldn't have exactly TMI'ed that thunal was town in some cases btw

if you are mafia you would almost certainly know there's only one team both bc it's likely a large team and bc your pm would be identified as just mafia in a way implying theres only one

so no this doesnt work you can easily be mafia who tmi'd thunal town and this post just looks bad lol

[Justplayingitcool]

i think they are both town regardless of your alignment so flipping you wouldnt add confidence

Sure. But do the others think that?

I do, for one

[MartinGG99]

bc your pm would be identified as just mafia in a way implying theres only one

I don't see how that works?

[Timsup2nothin]

Which honestly is a sad and lazy way of solving tutuu and thunal that won't work and I do hope people have trusted my reasons, even if they believe its because of TMI that I made them

i think they are both town regardless of your alignment so flipping you wouldnt add confidence

Wait...I see your vote moving around, but when and how did you arrive at Tutuu being town?

[Made]

bc your pm would be identified as just mafia in a way implying theres only one

I don't see how that works?

you should? the reason that we figured 1 mafia team is cuz the flip said "you are mafia". Mafia would of made the same assumption we made in figuring out how many teams there were

[MartinGG99]

Seriously. Like a mafia wincon of just "gain vote majority" and being told you're "Mafia" does not say anything about the existence or non-existence of other factions

you said yourself it can depend on the size of the mafia as well

what if there was a 2nd kill on n1 that was saved anyways and no one outed cuz soup kill and also night-kills?

Or maybe there was a lucky role-block. Who knows.

[nutella]

bc your pm would be identified as just mafia in a way implying theres only one

I don't see how that works?

uh the same reason we figured it wasnt multiball when cat's faction flipped as simply "Mafia"

[Justplayingitcool]

That’s extremely unlikely

[MartinGG99]

you should? the reason that we figured 1 mafia team is cuz the flip said "you are mafia". Mafia would of made the same assumption we made in figuring out how many teams there were

Are partially informed, but not completely informed, mafia teams not a thing here?

I mean like this setup is closed they shouldn't know if there's multiball or not unless they had a huge mafia size and I don't see any evidence pointing to the absolute confirmation of that yet

[Made]

Seriously. Like a mafia wincon of just "gain vote majority" and being told you're "Mafia" does not say anything about the existence or non-existence of other factions

you said yourself it can depend on the size of the mafia as well

what if there was a 2nd kill on n1 that was saved anyways and no one outed cuz soup kill and also night-kills?

Or maybe there was a lucky role-block. Who knows.

is this a slip?

[nutella]

Seriously. Like a mafia wincon of just "gain vote majority" and being told you're "Mafia" does not say anything about the existence or non-existence of other factions

you said yourself it can depend on the size of the mafia as well

what if there was a 2nd kill on n1 that was saved anyways and no one outed cuz soup kill and also night-kills?

Or maybe there was a lucky role-block. Who knows.

in previous multiball games on the site the factions had clear different names

im like 99% sure it just being called "mafia" means there is only one

[Made]

[VOTE: martin] aubergine

[MartinGG99]

uh the same reason we figured it wasnt multiball when cat's faction flipped as simply "Mafia"

flipping just as "mafia" doesn't prove anything lol

there can be "Mafia" and "Triad" for example

[MartinGG99]

im like 99% sure it just being called "mafia" means there is only one

Oh. That's the site meta?

[nutella]

you should? the reason that we figured 1 mafia team is cuz the flip said "you are mafia". Mafia would of made the same assumption we made in figuring out how many teams there were

Are partially informed, but not completely informed, mafia teams not a thing here?

I mean like this setup is closed they shouldn't know if there's multiball or not unless they had a huge mafia size and I don't see any evidence pointing to the absolute confirmation of that yet

they probably arent informed of 3ps and the wincon is like a vague eliminate all threats thing but i think based on both team size and faction name being just mafia they would figure they are the only mafia team

[Timsup2nothin]

bc your pm would be identified as just mafia in a way implying theres only one

I don't see how that works?

uh the same reason we figured it wasnt multiball when cat's faction flipped as simply "Mafia"

I'm not really in this "we." It wouldn't surprise me at all id someone flipped "wolf" or some other appropriate word.

[Justplayingitcool]

Honestly this made and martin interaction interests me

[Made]

I don't think we have Mafia's win con. Do we???

[nutella]

uh the same reason we figured it wasnt multiball when cat's faction flipped as simply "Mafia"

flipping just as "mafia" doesn't prove anything lol

there can be "Mafia" and "Triad" for example

no

[nutella]

i have played many games hosted by epi and if theres a faction called simply mafia it's the only one just trust me lol

[nutella]

bc your pm would be identified as just mafia in a way implying theres only one

I don't see how that works?

uh the same reason we figured it wasnt multiball when cat's faction flipped as simply "Mafia"

I'm not really in this "we." It wouldn't surprise me at all id someone flipped "wolf" or some other appropriate word.

no

this is a host read of epi, take it or leave it but im pretty confident

[nutella]

Honestly this made and martin interaction interests me

I think exactly one of them is mafia, not sure which atm


Mayyyybe both but meh

[Hyena]

Hi! I am here.

[Made]

...is no one seeing the slip? We don't know mafia's wincon here

[Timsup2nothin]

i have played many games hosted by epi and if theres a faction called simply mafia it's the only one just trust me lol

This meta seems valid. Without it there was really no reason I could see for the "not multi-ball" conclusion so I thought it was weird. Glad to have had this brought out.