Spider-verse Mafia [DAY 6]

[Syn]

is there a limit to what you can put in these messages

if you were being hard-sussed at EOD D5

why not just use the spider-ham message to say "I, Esooa, am town"?

[Esooa]

@Esooa can you paraphrase what your n3 and n4 messages were

why no message n5?

pretty sure I submitted nothing n3, that was the day that was quick hammered and I wasn't even in thread the entire day

n4

Have you ever had a dream that that you um you had you'd you would you could you'd do you wi you wants you you could do so you you'd do you could you you want you want him to do you so much you could do anything?

n5 I had a double action so I sent dab twice but was rb'd

[Syn]

Thank you, Epi

Not ignoring you; seanzie is percolating in my brain while i extract info from esooa

[Esooa]

is there a limit to what you can put in these messages

if you were being hard-sussed at EOD D5

why not just use the spider-ham message to say "I, Esooa, am town"?

because if I want to claim I can just claim

[Esooa]

I was planning not to but I'm annoyed

[Guillotine]

Mac is confirmed town because of the Scion thing.

Mac is confirmed wolf because if he was town, he’d have been souped.


In a vacuum, the first statement is much stronger than the later. I’d be interested in hearing counters to either statement before we just blast Seanzie tho.

Yup, my thoughts exactly of why he gotta be scum, if his claim is true which is supposed to clear him then why hasn't he been souped?

[Syn]

@Esooa can you paraphrase what your n3 and n4 messages were

why no message n5?

pretty sure I submitted nothing n3, that was the day that was quick hammered and I wasn't even in thread the entire day

n4

Have you ever had a dream that that you um you had you'd you would you could you'd do you wi you wants you you could do so you you'd do you could you you want you want him to do you so much you could do anything?

n5 I had a double action so I sent dab twice but was rb'd

i guess that means killed people's actions still go through

though i am kind of side-eyeing using the soapbox to do literally nothing of value, not even clearing yourself when everyone wants your chop

[Epignosis]

Mac is confirmed town because of the Scion thing.

Mac is confirmed wolf because if he was town, he’d have been souped.


In a vacuum, the first statement is much stronger than the later. I’d be interested in hearing counters to either statement before we just blast Seanzie tho.

Yup, my thoughts exactly of why he gotta be scum, if his claim is true which is supposed to clear him then why hasn't he been souped?

Why are you voting Esooa then?

[Guillotine]

[VOTE: Mac] aubergine

[Syn]

Mac is confirmed town because of the Scion thing.

Mac is confirmed wolf because if he was town, he’d have been souped.


In a vacuum, the first statement is much stronger than the later. I’d be interested in hearing counters to either statement before we just blast Seanzie tho.

Yup, my thoughts exactly of why he gotta be scum, if his claim is true which is supposed to clear him then why hasn't he been souped?

if his claim isn't true, who is the real Spider-Girl from 982?

this is not the time to withhold info

especially when Mayday's other ability is worth zilch

[Guillotine]

Mac is confirmed town because of the Scion thing.

Mac is confirmed wolf because if he was town, he’d have been souped.


In a vacuum, the first statement is much stronger than the later. I’d be interested in hearing counters to either statement before we just blast Seanzie tho.

Yup, my thoughts exactly of why he gotta be scum, if his claim is true which is supposed to clear him then why hasn't he been souped?

Why are you voting Esooa then?

Cause i think both of them are w/w, because i was in the process of doing so while you posted this.

[Epignosis]

@Esooa, get your vote off yourself, ya doughnut.

If you are a civilian, don't be selfish.

I you are mafia, then by all means keep it there.

[Syn]

mac and esooa being so tilted when they are possibly the only confirmed towns is fun and chaotic but also I hate it

[Esooa]

@Esooa can you paraphrase what your n3 and n4 messages were

why no message n5?

pretty sure I submitted nothing n3, that was the day that was quick hammered and I wasn't even in thread the entire day

n4

Have you ever had a dream that that you um you had you'd you would you could you'd do you wi you wants you you could do so you you'd do you could you you want you want him to do you so much you could do anything?

n5 I had a double action so I sent dab twice but was rb'd

i guess that means killed people's actions still go through

though i am kind of side-eyeing using the soapbox to do literally nothing of value, not even clearing yourself when everyone wants your chop

lol anytihng I wanna post with it I can just post in thread, and posting real info in it risks outing me for soup cause they can just track reads

[Guillotine]

Mac is confirmed town because of the Scion thing.

Mac is confirmed wolf because if he was town, he’d have been souped.


In a vacuum, the first statement is much stronger than the later. I’d be interested in hearing counters to either statement before we just blast Seanzie tho.

Yup, my thoughts exactly of why he gotta be scum, if his claim is true which is supposed to clear him then why hasn't he been souped?

if his claim isn't true, who is the real Spider-Girl from 982?

this is not the time to withhold info

especially when Mayday's other ability is worth zilch

I dont know

[Jackofhearts2005]

Mac is confirmed town because of the Scion thing.

Mac is confirmed wolf because if he was town, he’d have been souped.


In a vacuum, the first statement is much stronger than the later. I’d be interested in hearing counters to either statement before we just blast Seanzie tho.

Yup, my thoughts exactly of why he gotta be scum, if his claim is true which is supposed to clear him then why hasn't he been souped?

if his claim isn't true, who is the real Spider-Girl from 982?

this is not the time to withhold info

especially when Mayday's other ability is worth zilch

If I was gonna argue it, I’d say “nobody” and GMan was fooled by a notepass or secret role.

[Syn]

someone real quick sanity check me

there are 30 roles in the OP

there are not 30 players

based on the wolf flips, the missing roles have gotta be from the wolf side and, like, one or two towns, right?

has anyone tabulated a list of confirmed roles in game, and those that have yet to flip?

[Jackofhearts2005]

Orazor says Mac is just town but like...I’d probably still chop him over Epi or Guillo. I’d have to look super hard at the isos before making a final call. That’s just my gut on both scenarios.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Lol I haven’t but that sounds like a good idea.

[Syn]

@Esooa can you paraphrase what your n3 and n4 messages were

why no message n5?

pretty sure I submitted nothing n3, that was the day that was quick hammered and I wasn't even in thread the entire day

n4

Have you ever had a dream that that you um you had you'd you would you could you'd do you wi you wants you you could do so you you'd do you could you you want you want him to do you so much you could do anything?

n5 I had a double action so I sent dab twice but was rb'd

i guess that means killed people's actions still go through

though i am kind of side-eyeing using the soapbox to do literally nothing of value, not even clearing yourself when everyone wants your chop

lol anytihng I wanna post with it I can just post in thread, and posting real info in it risks outing me for soup cause they can just track reads

this doesn't parse for n5

the spider-ham message is from spider-ham, no? it cannot be hijacked, right? so spider-ham going "I am Esooa you ding-dongs" seems pretty clearing, and far more of a guarantee than an in-thread claim during the day

[Esooa]

@Esooa can you paraphrase what your n3 and n4 messages were

why no message n5?

pretty sure I submitted nothing n3, that was the day that was quick hammered and I wasn't even in thread the entire day

n4

Have you ever had a dream that that you um you had you'd you would you could you'd do you wi you wants you you could do so you you'd do you could you you want you want him to do you so much you could do anything?

n5 I had a double action so I sent dab twice but was rb'd

i guess that means killed people's actions still go through

though i am kind of side-eyeing using the soapbox to do literally nothing of value, not even clearing yourself when everyone wants your chop

lol anytihng I wanna post with it I can just post in thread, and posting real info in it risks outing me for soup cause they can just track reads

this doesn't parse for n5

the spider-ham message is from spider-ham, no? it cannot be hijacked, right? so spider-ham going "I am Esooa you ding-dongs" seems pretty clearing, and far more of a guarantee than an in-thread claim during the day

I softed anyway which would be basically confirming but idc to pull quotes rn

[Syn]

Mac is confirmed town because of the Scion thing.

Mac is confirmed wolf because if he was town, he’d have been souped.


In a vacuum, the first statement is much stronger than the later. I’d be interested in hearing counters to either statement before we just blast Seanzie tho.

Yup, my thoughts exactly of why he gotta be scum, if his claim is true which is supposed to clear him then why hasn't he been souped?

if his claim isn't true, who is the real Spider-Girl from 982?

this is not the time to withhold info

especially when Mayday's other ability is worth zilch

If I was gonna argue it, I’d say “nobody” and GMan was fooled by a notepass or secret role.

so you would argue that G-Man was targeted by Daemos

And just neglected to mention he could send a message of his own? and for some reason thought a player message was a host message?

I saw in G-Man's ISO that people were saying he was bad but this seems a bit of a stretch

[Epignosis]

This is an open setup with claiming.

Mafia can claim things. They have to be able to or the game is broken.

I don't know why anybody believes claims. They aren't important. They are red herrings. They are dangerous (look at what has happened twice).

[Jackofhearts2005]

The soapbox is very very likely saving Esooa from a misyeet so tbh that’s the most useful role in the game.

[MacDougall]

guess I should ISO LC and verify that

okay, verified, no spider-ham messages

@Esooa?

look at daisys role block night actions

Yeah, this checks out. KZA saw it, and I kind of guessed at this as well. If there is no spiderpig CC, Esooa should be clear.

Which is a problem/godsend because Esooa is far and away the scummiest player.

With Mac being a close second, potentially also mechanically confirmed (why is he alive 3 days later?).

I mean...I default to you as the only possible wolf left if we actually confirmed Esooa and Mac.

I think the obvious answer is that the mafia missed my claim.

[MacDougall]

That's bullshit that I am the second scummiest player. I am intensely obvious town you fucking charlatan.

[Epignosis]

guess I should ISO LC and verify that

okay, verified, no spider-ham messages

@Esooa?

look at daisys role block night actions

Yeah, this checks out. KZA saw it, and I kind of guessed at this as well. If there is no spiderpig CC, Esooa should be clear.

Which is a problem/godsend because Esooa is far and away the scummiest player.

With Mac being a close second, potentially also mechanically confirmed (why is he alive 3 days later?).

I mean...I default to you as the only possible wolf left if we actually confirmed Esooa and Mac.

I think the obvious answer is that the mafia missed my claim.

I don't buy that for a second.

[Seanzie]

someone real quick sanity check me

there are 30 roles in the OP

there are not 30 players

based on the wolf flips, the missing roles have gotta be from the wolf side and, like, one or two towns, right?

has anyone tabulated a list of confirmed roles in game, and those that have yet to flip?

There were 4 roles removed. I severely doubt that LC would remove 3 wolves and 1 town, so there are probably either (2 wolf roles removed and 2 town roles removed) or (imo more likely) (1 wolf role removed and 3 town roles removed), meaning that there are 2-3 wolves remaining (unless by some crazy chance we hit the seemer and never figured it out, but I think this is unlikely)

I have no kept track of roles which must be here.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Mac is confirmed town because of the Scion thing.

Mac is confirmed wolf because if he was town, he’d have been souped.


In a vacuum, the first statement is much stronger than the later. I’d be interested in hearing counters to either statement before we just blast Seanzie tho.

Yup, my thoughts exactly of why he gotta be scum, if his claim is true which is supposed to clear him then why hasn't he been souped?

if his claim isn't true, who is the real Spider-Girl from 982?

this is not the time to withhold info

especially when Mayday's other ability is worth zilch

If I was gonna argue it, I’d say “nobody” and GMan was fooled by a notepass or secret role.

so you would argue that G-Man was targeted by Daemos

And just neglected to mention he could send a message of his own? and for some reason thought a player message was a host message?

I saw in G-Man's ISO that people were saying he was bad but this seems a bit of a stretch

I’m not saying I believe that’s what happened but I’ve won a mafia game doing exactly that.

Convinced a townie I had recruited them into a nonexistent cult by mimicking host style in a notepass.

[Syn]

This is an open setup with claiming.

Mafia can claim things. They have to be able to or the game is broken.

I don't know why anybody believes claims. They aren't important. They are red herrings. They are dangerous (look at what has happened twice).

Solus seems to have role fudging equity with Spider-Girl (982)

but that still circles back to G-Man needing to have made a colossal fuck-up for a Daemos message to be taken as host info

[Jackofhearts2005]

guess I should ISO LC and verify that

okay, verified, no spider-ham messages

@Esooa?

look at daisys role block night actions

Yeah, this checks out. KZA saw it, and I kind of guessed at this as well. If there is no spiderpig CC, Esooa should be clear.

Which is a problem/godsend because Esooa is far and away the scummiest player.

With Mac being a close second, potentially also mechanically confirmed (why is he alive 3 days later?).

I mean...I default to you as the only possible wolf left if we actually confirmed Esooa and Mac.

I think the obvious answer is that the mafia missed my claim.

I don't buy that for a second.

I don’t either.

The best argument I can come up with is “hopefully they ask why we didn’t soup Mac and they tinfoil and misyeet him.”

[MacDougall]

Then fucks me. Maybe they just missed on someone else before they got to me.

[Epignosis]

someone real quick sanity check me

there are 30 roles in the OP

there are not 30 players

based on the wolf flips, the missing roles have gotta be from the wolf side and, like, one or two towns, right?

has anyone tabulated a list of confirmed roles in game, and those that have yet to flip?

There were 4 roles removed. I severely doubt that LC would remove 3 wolves and 1 town, so there are probably either (2 wolf roles removed and 2 town roles removed) or (imo more likely) (1 wolf role removed and 3 town roles removed), meaning that there are 2-3 wolves remaining (unless by some crazy chance we hit the seemer and never figured it out, but I think this is unlikely)

I have no kept track of roles which must be here.

I see you're having a hard time answering my question, "Who is bad?"

[Syn]

someone real quick sanity check me

there are 30 roles in the OP

there are not 30 players

based on the wolf flips, the missing roles have gotta be from the wolf side and, like, one or two towns, right?

has anyone tabulated a list of confirmed roles in game, and those that have yet to flip?

There were 4 roles removed. I severely doubt that LC would remove 3 wolves and 1 town, so there are probably either (2 wolf roles removed and 2 town roles removed) or (imo more likely) (1 wolf role removed and 3 town roles removed), meaning that there are 2-3 wolves remaining (unless by some crazy chance we hit the seemer and never figured it out, but I think this is unlikely)

I have no kept track of roles which must be here.

if this is true, my shot basically determines the game

that's good

no pressure, syn

[Jackofhearts2005]

Then fucks me. Maybe they just missed on someone else before they got to me.

Sure. If you claimed yesterday. You claimed D2.

[Syn]

@MacDougall

What does the Scion do?

[MacDougall]

While we're wondering why obvious claimed town didn't die, let's talk about Jack who hard claimed a role that meant he couldn't be lynched three days ago.

[112]

tfw you're too old to see the taste in cinnamon toast crunch

[Jackofhearts2005]

someone real quick sanity check me

there are 30 roles in the OP

there are not 30 players

based on the wolf flips, the missing roles have gotta be from the wolf side and, like, one or two towns, right?

has anyone tabulated a list of confirmed roles in game, and those that have yet to flip?

There were 4 roles removed. I severely doubt that LC would remove 3 wolves and 1 town, so there are probably either (2 wolf roles removed and 2 town roles removed) or (imo more likely) (1 wolf role removed and 3 town roles removed), meaning that there are 2-3 wolves remaining (unless by some crazy chance we hit the seemer and never figured it out, but I think this is unlikely)

I have no kept track of roles which must be here.

if this is true, my shot basically determines the game

that's good

no pressure, syn

Trust in the heart of the cards?

[Seanzie]

someone real quick sanity check me

there are 30 roles in the OP

there are not 30 players

based on the wolf flips, the missing roles have gotta be from the wolf side and, like, one or two towns, right?

has anyone tabulated a list of confirmed roles in game, and those that have yet to flip?

There were 4 roles removed. I severely doubt that LC would remove 3 wolves and 1 town, so there are probably either (2 wolf roles removed and 2 town roles removed) or (imo more likely) (1 wolf role removed and 3 town roles removed), meaning that there are 2-3 wolves remaining (unless by some crazy chance we hit the seemer and never figured it out, but I think this is unlikely)

I have no kept track of roles which must be here.

I see you're having a hard time answering my question, "Who is bad?"

Dude, I literally answered that in my original post to Syn, before you even asked me. You aren't even bothering to read my posts at this point, which is a bad look from someone who "apparently" suspects me.

[Syn]

While we're wondering why obvious claimed town didn't die, let's talk about Jack who hard claimed a role that meant he couldn't be lynched three days ago.

What is Jack's claim?

[Jackofhearts2005]

While we're wondering why obvious claimed town didn't die, let's talk about Jack who hard claimed a role that meant he couldn't be lynched three days ago.

I hard claimed that I wouldn’t be yeeted.

Plus there are like four vote manipulating roles.

[Epignosis]

While we're wondering why obvious claimed town didn't die, let's talk about Jack who hard claimed a role that meant he couldn't be lynched three days ago.

It would be super helpful to your friendly neighborhood Spider Man if you would link these claims so I can see them for myself.

That's for everybody. Spidey out.

[MacDougall]

@MacDougall

What does the Scion do?

I start with it. I pass it to someone whenever. I don't know what happens after that. If the person holding it is dead plus the other and the bride are all dead then the mafia get two kills the following night. It's a weird role.

[MacDougall]

Jack was literally going to be chopped, claims the lynch stop role, doesn't get chopped. KZA outs as the lynch stop role.

[Jackofhearts2005]

While we're wondering why obvious claimed town didn't die, let's talk about Jack who hard claimed a role that meant he couldn't be lynched three days ago.

What is Jack's claim?

Unchoppable as a player.

[Syn]

@MacDougall

What does the Scion do?

I start with it. I pass it to someone whenever. I don't know what happens after that. If the person holding it is dead plus the other and the bride are all dead then the mafia get two kills the following night. It's a weird role.

so your one singular useful power is an item

that does something you don't know anything about

and if the person with it dies along with some other peeps, it gives the wolves extra KP?

[Jackofhearts2005]

Jack was literally going to be chopped, claims the lynch stop role, doesn't get chopped. KZA outs as the lynch stop role.

That didn’t happen. I said if you run the scenario 100 times I’m getting yeeted 0 times.

(Because I’m an unchoppable player, dingus. It has nothing to do with my rolecard.)

[MacDougall]

Spoiler alert: I’m not getting chopped today.

And if anyone bothers to read my iso instead of the incredibly tired “I don’t know what I’m doing so I’ll just default to suspecting Jack” strategy that literally never works, it’ll be really clear that I’m town here.

Just waiting for people to actually read the thread or until the deadline.

I repeat, I’m not getting chopped today.

You can call me a wolf all you like but it won’t change the outcome.

You run this simulation a hundred times and I’ll never swing.

Anyone voting for me can believe me now or see for themselves later.

[MacDougall]

Jack was literally going to be chopped, claims the lynch stop role, doesn't get chopped. KZA outs as the lynch stop role.

That didn’t happen. I said if you run the scenario 100 times I’m getting yeeted 0 times.

(Because I’m an unchoppable player, dingus. It has nothing to do with my rolecard.)

I'm the dingus?